08 Wrangler Changes?
10-19-2007, 09:54 AM
#91
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Re: 08 Wrangler Changes?
They don't give a lifetime warranty here in Canada, likely because we
actually off road the suckers or have to use them in 4x4 for half the year.
That would be a deal breaker for me. No way in hell would I buy a
vehicle that can't hold it's own weight on the drivetrain parts because
I 'do' offroad.
A plastic rad is foolish enough.
There is such a thing as too cheap there guys.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Fred Garvin wrote:
> Yeah. Yeah. And the new Boeing 787 is made out of plastic. Next
> Generation fellas, it's hapening all around you. Maybe it's just time
> to move along. ;-)
>
> On another note, I have a Lifetime Powertrain warranty, so what the hell
> do I care.
>
>
> "L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <LWBill------@------.net> wrote in message
> news:47169039$0$26392$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
>> Ditto!
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:4716151a$0$4994$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>>> 'What' is a 'next generation' axle?
>>>
>>> It's not that aluminum thing that can't hold it's own weight on a jack
>>> like they put in the Grand is it?
>>>
>>> I 'really' wouldn't want one of those pieces of crap.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>>
>
actually off road the suckers or have to use them in 4x4 for half the year.
That would be a deal breaker for me. No way in hell would I buy a
vehicle that can't hold it's own weight on the drivetrain parts because
I 'do' offroad.
A plastic rad is foolish enough.
There is such a thing as too cheap there guys.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Fred Garvin wrote:
> Yeah. Yeah. And the new Boeing 787 is made out of plastic. Next
> Generation fellas, it's hapening all around you. Maybe it's just time
> to move along. ;-)
>
> On another note, I have a Lifetime Powertrain warranty, so what the hell
> do I care.
>
>
> "L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <LWBill------@------.net> wrote in message
> news:47169039$0$26392$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
>> Ditto!
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:4716151a$0$4994$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>>> 'What' is a 'next generation' axle?
>>>
>>> It's not that aluminum thing that can't hold it's own weight on a jack
>>> like they put in the Grand is it?
>>>
>>> I 'really' wouldn't want one of those pieces of crap.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>>
>
10-19-2007, 09:54 AM
#92
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Re: 08 Wrangler Changes?
They don't give a lifetime warranty here in Canada, likely because we
actually off road the suckers or have to use them in 4x4 for half the year.
That would be a deal breaker for me. No way in hell would I buy a
vehicle that can't hold it's own weight on the drivetrain parts because
I 'do' offroad.
A plastic rad is foolish enough.
There is such a thing as too cheap there guys.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Fred Garvin wrote:
> Yeah. Yeah. And the new Boeing 787 is made out of plastic. Next
> Generation fellas, it's hapening all around you. Maybe it's just time
> to move along. ;-)
>
> On another note, I have a Lifetime Powertrain warranty, so what the hell
> do I care.
>
>
> "L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <LWBill------@------.net> wrote in message
> news:47169039$0$26392$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
>> Ditto!
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:4716151a$0$4994$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>>> 'What' is a 'next generation' axle?
>>>
>>> It's not that aluminum thing that can't hold it's own weight on a jack
>>> like they put in the Grand is it?
>>>
>>> I 'really' wouldn't want one of those pieces of crap.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>>
>
actually off road the suckers or have to use them in 4x4 for half the year.
That would be a deal breaker for me. No way in hell would I buy a
vehicle that can't hold it's own weight on the drivetrain parts because
I 'do' offroad.
A plastic rad is foolish enough.
There is such a thing as too cheap there guys.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Fred Garvin wrote:
> Yeah. Yeah. And the new Boeing 787 is made out of plastic. Next
> Generation fellas, it's hapening all around you. Maybe it's just time
> to move along. ;-)
>
> On another note, I have a Lifetime Powertrain warranty, so what the hell
> do I care.
>
>
> "L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <LWBill------@------.net> wrote in message
> news:47169039$0$26392$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
>> Ditto!
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:4716151a$0$4994$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>>> 'What' is a 'next generation' axle?
>>>
>>> It's not that aluminum thing that can't hold it's own weight on a jack
>>> like they put in the Grand is it?
>>>
>>> I 'really' wouldn't want one of those pieces of crap.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>>
>
10-19-2007, 09:54 AM
#93
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Re: 08 Wrangler Changes?
They don't give a lifetime warranty here in Canada, likely because we
actually off road the suckers or have to use them in 4x4 for half the year.
That would be a deal breaker for me. No way in hell would I buy a
vehicle that can't hold it's own weight on the drivetrain parts because
I 'do' offroad.
A plastic rad is foolish enough.
There is such a thing as too cheap there guys.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Fred Garvin wrote:
> Yeah. Yeah. And the new Boeing 787 is made out of plastic. Next
> Generation fellas, it's hapening all around you. Maybe it's just time
> to move along. ;-)
>
> On another note, I have a Lifetime Powertrain warranty, so what the hell
> do I care.
>
>
> "L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <LWBill------@------.net> wrote in message
> news:47169039$0$26392$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
>> Ditto!
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:4716151a$0$4994$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>>> 'What' is a 'next generation' axle?
>>>
>>> It's not that aluminum thing that can't hold it's own weight on a jack
>>> like they put in the Grand is it?
>>>
>>> I 'really' wouldn't want one of those pieces of crap.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>>
>
actually off road the suckers or have to use them in 4x4 for half the year.
That would be a deal breaker for me. No way in hell would I buy a
vehicle that can't hold it's own weight on the drivetrain parts because
I 'do' offroad.
A plastic rad is foolish enough.
There is such a thing as too cheap there guys.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Fred Garvin wrote:
> Yeah. Yeah. And the new Boeing 787 is made out of plastic. Next
> Generation fellas, it's hapening all around you. Maybe it's just time
> to move along. ;-)
>
> On another note, I have a Lifetime Powertrain warranty, so what the hell
> do I care.
>
>
> "L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <LWBill------@------.net> wrote in message
> news:47169039$0$26392$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
>> Ditto!
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:4716151a$0$4994$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>>> 'What' is a 'next generation' axle?
>>>
>>> It's not that aluminum thing that can't hold it's own weight on a jack
>>> like they put in the Grand is it?
>>>
>>> I 'really' wouldn't want one of those pieces of crap.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>>
>
10-19-2007, 10:09 AM
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Re: 08 Wrangler Changes?
On Oct 17, 9:01 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> 'What' is a 'next generation' axle?
>
> It's not that aluminum thing that can't hold it's own weight on a jack
> like they put in the Grand is it?
>
> I 'really' wouldn't want one of those pieces of crap.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
>
>
>
> Fred Garvin wrote:
> > From the window sticker of my shinny new 2008 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon:
>
> > Next Generation Dana 44 Heavy Duty Front Axle
> > Next Generation Dana 44 Heavy Duty Rear Axle
>
> > -Fred
>
> > "Jack Carter" <jcarter10screws...@comcast.net> wrote in message
> >news:EYKdnUev4MggLJPanZ2dnUVZ_vCknZ2d@comcast.com ...
> >> I don't know how accurate this is but my dealer says all Wranglers now
> >> have the Dana 44 rear axle - but not in the front.
>
> >> "97tjMike" <MichaelJun...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >>news:1192116850.095022.187310@19g2000hsx.googleg roups.com...
> >>> Hey everyone
>
> >>> Just curious if anything was changed on the 08 Wrangler. I know like
> >>> with the TJs they changed around little things from year to year. Just
> >>> wondering what was changed from the 07.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
I've looked into this a bit and it seems the JK rear D44 is a pretty
good axle. The tubes are bigger than normal, D60 size, and the pinion
is also larger. I guess it is still called a D44 because of the ring
gear. The front D44 seems to have the small D30 tubes just like the
TJ Rubicons.
> 'What' is a 'next generation' axle?
>
> It's not that aluminum thing that can't hold it's own weight on a jack
> like they put in the Grand is it?
>
> I 'really' wouldn't want one of those pieces of crap.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
>
>
>
> Fred Garvin wrote:
> > From the window sticker of my shinny new 2008 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon:
>
> > Next Generation Dana 44 Heavy Duty Front Axle
> > Next Generation Dana 44 Heavy Duty Rear Axle
>
> > -Fred
>
> > "Jack Carter" <jcarter10screws...@comcast.net> wrote in message
> >news:EYKdnUev4MggLJPanZ2dnUVZ_vCknZ2d@comcast.com ...
> >> I don't know how accurate this is but my dealer says all Wranglers now
> >> have the Dana 44 rear axle - but not in the front.
>
> >> "97tjMike" <MichaelJun...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >>news:1192116850.095022.187310@19g2000hsx.googleg roups.com...
> >>> Hey everyone
>
> >>> Just curious if anything was changed on the 08 Wrangler. I know like
> >>> with the TJs they changed around little things from year to year. Just
> >>> wondering what was changed from the 07.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
I've looked into this a bit and it seems the JK rear D44 is a pretty
good axle. The tubes are bigger than normal, D60 size, and the pinion
is also larger. I guess it is still called a D44 because of the ring
gear. The front D44 seems to have the small D30 tubes just like the
TJ Rubicons.
10-19-2007, 10:09 AM
#95
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Re: 08 Wrangler Changes?
On Oct 17, 9:01 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> 'What' is a 'next generation' axle?
>
> It's not that aluminum thing that can't hold it's own weight on a jack
> like they put in the Grand is it?
>
> I 'really' wouldn't want one of those pieces of crap.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
>
>
>
> Fred Garvin wrote:
> > From the window sticker of my shinny new 2008 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon:
>
> > Next Generation Dana 44 Heavy Duty Front Axle
> > Next Generation Dana 44 Heavy Duty Rear Axle
>
> > -Fred
>
> > "Jack Carter" <jcarter10screws...@comcast.net> wrote in message
> >news:EYKdnUev4MggLJPanZ2dnUVZ_vCknZ2d@comcast.com ...
> >> I don't know how accurate this is but my dealer says all Wranglers now
> >> have the Dana 44 rear axle - but not in the front.
>
> >> "97tjMike" <MichaelJun...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >>news:1192116850.095022.187310@19g2000hsx.googleg roups.com...
> >>> Hey everyone
>
> >>> Just curious if anything was changed on the 08 Wrangler. I know like
> >>> with the TJs they changed around little things from year to year. Just
> >>> wondering what was changed from the 07.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
I've looked into this a bit and it seems the JK rear D44 is a pretty
good axle. The tubes are bigger than normal, D60 size, and the pinion
is also larger. I guess it is still called a D44 because of the ring
gear. The front D44 seems to have the small D30 tubes just like the
TJ Rubicons.
> 'What' is a 'next generation' axle?
>
> It's not that aluminum thing that can't hold it's own weight on a jack
> like they put in the Grand is it?
>
> I 'really' wouldn't want one of those pieces of crap.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
>
>
>
> Fred Garvin wrote:
> > From the window sticker of my shinny new 2008 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon:
>
> > Next Generation Dana 44 Heavy Duty Front Axle
> > Next Generation Dana 44 Heavy Duty Rear Axle
>
> > -Fred
>
> > "Jack Carter" <jcarter10screws...@comcast.net> wrote in message
> >news:EYKdnUev4MggLJPanZ2dnUVZ_vCknZ2d@comcast.com ...
> >> I don't know how accurate this is but my dealer says all Wranglers now
> >> have the Dana 44 rear axle - but not in the front.
>
> >> "97tjMike" <MichaelJun...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >>news:1192116850.095022.187310@19g2000hsx.googleg roups.com...
> >>> Hey everyone
>
> >>> Just curious if anything was changed on the 08 Wrangler. I know like
> >>> with the TJs they changed around little things from year to year. Just
> >>> wondering what was changed from the 07.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
I've looked into this a bit and it seems the JK rear D44 is a pretty
good axle. The tubes are bigger than normal, D60 size, and the pinion
is also larger. I guess it is still called a D44 because of the ring
gear. The front D44 seems to have the small D30 tubes just like the
TJ Rubicons.
10-19-2007, 10:09 AM
#96
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Re: 08 Wrangler Changes?
On Oct 17, 9:01 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> 'What' is a 'next generation' axle?
>
> It's not that aluminum thing that can't hold it's own weight on a jack
> like they put in the Grand is it?
>
> I 'really' wouldn't want one of those pieces of crap.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
>
>
>
> Fred Garvin wrote:
> > From the window sticker of my shinny new 2008 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon:
>
> > Next Generation Dana 44 Heavy Duty Front Axle
> > Next Generation Dana 44 Heavy Duty Rear Axle
>
> > -Fred
>
> > "Jack Carter" <jcarter10screws...@comcast.net> wrote in message
> >news:EYKdnUev4MggLJPanZ2dnUVZ_vCknZ2d@comcast.com ...
> >> I don't know how accurate this is but my dealer says all Wranglers now
> >> have the Dana 44 rear axle - but not in the front.
>
> >> "97tjMike" <MichaelJun...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >>news:1192116850.095022.187310@19g2000hsx.googleg roups.com...
> >>> Hey everyone
>
> >>> Just curious if anything was changed on the 08 Wrangler. I know like
> >>> with the TJs they changed around little things from year to year. Just
> >>> wondering what was changed from the 07.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
I've looked into this a bit and it seems the JK rear D44 is a pretty
good axle. The tubes are bigger than normal, D60 size, and the pinion
is also larger. I guess it is still called a D44 because of the ring
gear. The front D44 seems to have the small D30 tubes just like the
TJ Rubicons.
> 'What' is a 'next generation' axle?
>
> It's not that aluminum thing that can't hold it's own weight on a jack
> like they put in the Grand is it?
>
> I 'really' wouldn't want one of those pieces of crap.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
>
>
>
> Fred Garvin wrote:
> > From the window sticker of my shinny new 2008 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon:
>
> > Next Generation Dana 44 Heavy Duty Front Axle
> > Next Generation Dana 44 Heavy Duty Rear Axle
>
> > -Fred
>
> > "Jack Carter" <jcarter10screws...@comcast.net> wrote in message
> >news:EYKdnUev4MggLJPanZ2dnUVZ_vCknZ2d@comcast.com ...
> >> I don't know how accurate this is but my dealer says all Wranglers now
> >> have the Dana 44 rear axle - but not in the front.
>
> >> "97tjMike" <MichaelJun...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >>news:1192116850.095022.187310@19g2000hsx.googleg roups.com...
> >>> Hey everyone
>
> >>> Just curious if anything was changed on the 08 Wrangler. I know like
> >>> with the TJs they changed around little things from year to year. Just
> >>> wondering what was changed from the 07.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
I've looked into this a bit and it seems the JK rear D44 is a pretty
good axle. The tubes are bigger than normal, D60 size, and the pinion
is also larger. I guess it is still called a D44 because of the ring
gear. The front D44 seems to have the small D30 tubes just like the
TJ Rubicons.
10-19-2007, 10:33 AM
#97
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Re: 08 Wrangler Changes?
The radiator in my thirteen year old Wrangler is plastic top and bottom
tanks. No problems yet, knock on wood, except for stick damage to a tube.
I soldered that myself in the field. I have heard they are bad if you
overheat though. The tank to manifold seals are supposed to go out then.
What you need on your rig is a rubber radiator.
Cheers,
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4718b64d$0$29240$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
> They don't give a lifetime warranty here in Canada, likely because we
> actually off road the suckers or have to use them in 4x4 for half the
year.
>
> That would be a deal breaker for me. No way in hell would I buy a
> vehicle that can't hold it's own weight on the drivetrain parts because
> I 'do' offroad.
>
> A plastic rad is foolish enough.
>
> There is such a thing as too cheap there guys.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
>
> Fred Garvin wrote:
> > Yeah. Yeah. And the new Boeing 787 is made out of plastic. Next
> > Generation fellas, it's hapening all around you. Maybe it's just time
> > to move along. ;-)
> >
> > On another note, I have a Lifetime Powertrain warranty, so what the hell
> > do I care.
> >
> >
> > "L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <LWBill------@------.net> wrote in message
> > news:47169039$0$26392$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> >> Ditto!
> >> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> >> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >>
> >>
> >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >> news:4716151a$0$4994$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
> >>> 'What' is a 'next generation' axle?
> >>>
> >>> It's not that aluminum thing that can't hold it's own weight on a jack
> >>> like they put in the Grand is it?
> >>>
> >>> I 'really' wouldn't want one of those pieces of crap.
> >>>
> >>> Mike
> >>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
> >>
> >
tanks. No problems yet, knock on wood, except for stick damage to a tube.
I soldered that myself in the field. I have heard they are bad if you
overheat though. The tank to manifold seals are supposed to go out then.
What you need on your rig is a rubber radiator.
Cheers,
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4718b64d$0$29240$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
> They don't give a lifetime warranty here in Canada, likely because we
> actually off road the suckers or have to use them in 4x4 for half the
year.
>
> That would be a deal breaker for me. No way in hell would I buy a
> vehicle that can't hold it's own weight on the drivetrain parts because
> I 'do' offroad.
>
> A plastic rad is foolish enough.
>
> There is such a thing as too cheap there guys.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
>
> Fred Garvin wrote:
> > Yeah. Yeah. And the new Boeing 787 is made out of plastic. Next
> > Generation fellas, it's hapening all around you. Maybe it's just time
> > to move along. ;-)
> >
> > On another note, I have a Lifetime Powertrain warranty, so what the hell
> > do I care.
> >
> >
> > "L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <LWBill------@------.net> wrote in message
> > news:47169039$0$26392$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> >> Ditto!
> >> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> >> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >>
> >>
> >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >> news:4716151a$0$4994$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
> >>> 'What' is a 'next generation' axle?
> >>>
> >>> It's not that aluminum thing that can't hold it's own weight on a jack
> >>> like they put in the Grand is it?
> >>>
> >>> I 'really' wouldn't want one of those pieces of crap.
> >>>
> >>> Mike
> >>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
> >>
> >
10-19-2007, 10:33 AM
#98
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Re: 08 Wrangler Changes?
The radiator in my thirteen year old Wrangler is plastic top and bottom
tanks. No problems yet, knock on wood, except for stick damage to a tube.
I soldered that myself in the field. I have heard they are bad if you
overheat though. The tank to manifold seals are supposed to go out then.
What you need on your rig is a rubber radiator.
Cheers,
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4718b64d$0$29240$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
> They don't give a lifetime warranty here in Canada, likely because we
> actually off road the suckers or have to use them in 4x4 for half the
year.
>
> That would be a deal breaker for me. No way in hell would I buy a
> vehicle that can't hold it's own weight on the drivetrain parts because
> I 'do' offroad.
>
> A plastic rad is foolish enough.
>
> There is such a thing as too cheap there guys.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
>
> Fred Garvin wrote:
> > Yeah. Yeah. And the new Boeing 787 is made out of plastic. Next
> > Generation fellas, it's hapening all around you. Maybe it's just time
> > to move along. ;-)
> >
> > On another note, I have a Lifetime Powertrain warranty, so what the hell
> > do I care.
> >
> >
> > "L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <LWBill------@------.net> wrote in message
> > news:47169039$0$26392$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> >> Ditto!
> >> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> >> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >>
> >>
> >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >> news:4716151a$0$4994$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
> >>> 'What' is a 'next generation' axle?
> >>>
> >>> It's not that aluminum thing that can't hold it's own weight on a jack
> >>> like they put in the Grand is it?
> >>>
> >>> I 'really' wouldn't want one of those pieces of crap.
> >>>
> >>> Mike
> >>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
> >>
> >
tanks. No problems yet, knock on wood, except for stick damage to a tube.
I soldered that myself in the field. I have heard they are bad if you
overheat though. The tank to manifold seals are supposed to go out then.
What you need on your rig is a rubber radiator.
Cheers,
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4718b64d$0$29240$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
> They don't give a lifetime warranty here in Canada, likely because we
> actually off road the suckers or have to use them in 4x4 for half the
year.
>
> That would be a deal breaker for me. No way in hell would I buy a
> vehicle that can't hold it's own weight on the drivetrain parts because
> I 'do' offroad.
>
> A plastic rad is foolish enough.
>
> There is such a thing as too cheap there guys.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
>
> Fred Garvin wrote:
> > Yeah. Yeah. And the new Boeing 787 is made out of plastic. Next
> > Generation fellas, it's hapening all around you. Maybe it's just time
> > to move along. ;-)
> >
> > On another note, I have a Lifetime Powertrain warranty, so what the hell
> > do I care.
> >
> >
> > "L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <LWBill------@------.net> wrote in message
> > news:47169039$0$26392$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> >> Ditto!
> >> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> >> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >>
> >>
> >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >> news:4716151a$0$4994$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
> >>> 'What' is a 'next generation' axle?
> >>>
> >>> It's not that aluminum thing that can't hold it's own weight on a jack
> >>> like they put in the Grand is it?
> >>>
> >>> I 'really' wouldn't want one of those pieces of crap.
> >>>
> >>> Mike
> >>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
> >>
> >
10-19-2007, 10:33 AM
#99
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Re: 08 Wrangler Changes?
The radiator in my thirteen year old Wrangler is plastic top and bottom
tanks. No problems yet, knock on wood, except for stick damage to a tube.
I soldered that myself in the field. I have heard they are bad if you
overheat though. The tank to manifold seals are supposed to go out then.
What you need on your rig is a rubber radiator.
Cheers,
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4718b64d$0$29240$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
> They don't give a lifetime warranty here in Canada, likely because we
> actually off road the suckers or have to use them in 4x4 for half the
year.
>
> That would be a deal breaker for me. No way in hell would I buy a
> vehicle that can't hold it's own weight on the drivetrain parts because
> I 'do' offroad.
>
> A plastic rad is foolish enough.
>
> There is such a thing as too cheap there guys.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
>
> Fred Garvin wrote:
> > Yeah. Yeah. And the new Boeing 787 is made out of plastic. Next
> > Generation fellas, it's hapening all around you. Maybe it's just time
> > to move along. ;-)
> >
> > On another note, I have a Lifetime Powertrain warranty, so what the hell
> > do I care.
> >
> >
> > "L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <LWBill------@------.net> wrote in message
> > news:47169039$0$26392$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> >> Ditto!
> >> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> >> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >>
> >>
> >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >> news:4716151a$0$4994$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
> >>> 'What' is a 'next generation' axle?
> >>>
> >>> It's not that aluminum thing that can't hold it's own weight on a jack
> >>> like they put in the Grand is it?
> >>>
> >>> I 'really' wouldn't want one of those pieces of crap.
> >>>
> >>> Mike
> >>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
> >>
> >
tanks. No problems yet, knock on wood, except for stick damage to a tube.
I soldered that myself in the field. I have heard they are bad if you
overheat though. The tank to manifold seals are supposed to go out then.
What you need on your rig is a rubber radiator.
Cheers,
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4718b64d$0$29240$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
> They don't give a lifetime warranty here in Canada, likely because we
> actually off road the suckers or have to use them in 4x4 for half the
year.
>
> That would be a deal breaker for me. No way in hell would I buy a
> vehicle that can't hold it's own weight on the drivetrain parts because
> I 'do' offroad.
>
> A plastic rad is foolish enough.
>
> There is such a thing as too cheap there guys.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
>
> Fred Garvin wrote:
> > Yeah. Yeah. And the new Boeing 787 is made out of plastic. Next
> > Generation fellas, it's hapening all around you. Maybe it's just time
> > to move along. ;-)
> >
> > On another note, I have a Lifetime Powertrain warranty, so what the hell
> > do I care.
> >
> >
> > "L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <LWBill------@------.net> wrote in message
> > news:47169039$0$26392$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> >> Ditto!
> >> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> >> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >>
> >>
> >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >> news:4716151a$0$4994$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
> >>> 'What' is a 'next generation' axle?
> >>>
> >>> It's not that aluminum thing that can't hold it's own weight on a jack
> >>> like they put in the Grand is it?
> >>>
> >>> I 'really' wouldn't want one of those pieces of crap.
> >>>
> >>> Mike
> >>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
> >>
> >
10-19-2007, 11:36 AM
#100
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Re: 08 Wrangler Changes?
LOL!
You are right, our bush trails are so twisty I have seen a mess of the
tops ripped off the Jeep plastic rads and I have torn my steel strapped
one in half twice. No more though, I put a 1X1/8" bar over the side
straps full length and they used them in the re-core laughing about me
never tearing this one up. I now have a 'custom' rad. It is 1/4"
longer on one side and 3/8" longer on the other with 1/8" thicker
reinforced sides. It cools really well too with 25% more cores than the
old one.
Mike
Earle Horton wrote:
> The radiator in my thirteen year old Wrangler is plastic top and bottom
> tanks. No problems yet, knock on wood, except for stick damage to a tube.
> I soldered that myself in the field. I have heard they are bad if you
> overheat though. The tank to manifold seals are supposed to go out then.
> What you need on your rig is a rubber radiator.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Earle
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4718b64d$0$29240$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
>> They don't give a lifetime warranty here in Canada, likely because we
>> actually off road the suckers or have to use them in 4x4 for half the
> year.
>> That would be a deal breaker for me. No way in hell would I buy a
>> vehicle that can't hold it's own weight on the drivetrain parts because
>> I 'do' offroad.
>>
>> A plastic rad is foolish enough.
>>
>> There is such a thing as too cheap there guys.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
>>
>> Fred Garvin wrote:
>>> Yeah. Yeah. And the new Boeing 787 is made out of plastic. Next
>>> Generation fellas, it's hapening all around you. Maybe it's just time
>>> to move along. ;-)
>>>
>>> On another note, I have a Lifetime Powertrain warranty, so what the hell
>>> do I care.
>>>
>>>
>>> "L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <LWBill------@------.net> wrote in message
>>> news:47169039$0$26392$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
>>>> Ditto!
>>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>>> news:4716151a$0$4994$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>>>>> 'What' is a 'next generation' axle?
>>>>>
>>>>> It's not that aluminum thing that can't hold it's own weight on a jack
>>>>> like they put in the Grand is it?
>>>>>
>>>>> I 'really' wouldn't want one of those pieces of crap.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike
>>>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>>>>
>
>
You are right, our bush trails are so twisty I have seen a mess of the
tops ripped off the Jeep plastic rads and I have torn my steel strapped
one in half twice. No more though, I put a 1X1/8" bar over the side
straps full length and they used them in the re-core laughing about me
never tearing this one up. I now have a 'custom' rad. It is 1/4"
longer on one side and 3/8" longer on the other with 1/8" thicker
reinforced sides. It cools really well too with 25% more cores than the
old one.
Mike
Earle Horton wrote:
> The radiator in my thirteen year old Wrangler is plastic top and bottom
> tanks. No problems yet, knock on wood, except for stick damage to a tube.
> I soldered that myself in the field. I have heard they are bad if you
> overheat though. The tank to manifold seals are supposed to go out then.
> What you need on your rig is a rubber radiator.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Earle
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4718b64d$0$29240$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
>> They don't give a lifetime warranty here in Canada, likely because we
>> actually off road the suckers or have to use them in 4x4 for half the
> year.
>> That would be a deal breaker for me. No way in hell would I buy a
>> vehicle that can't hold it's own weight on the drivetrain parts because
>> I 'do' offroad.
>>
>> A plastic rad is foolish enough.
>>
>> There is such a thing as too cheap there guys.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
>>
>> Fred Garvin wrote:
>>> Yeah. Yeah. And the new Boeing 787 is made out of plastic. Next
>>> Generation fellas, it's hapening all around you. Maybe it's just time
>>> to move along. ;-)
>>>
>>> On another note, I have a Lifetime Powertrain warranty, so what the hell
>>> do I care.
>>>
>>>
>>> "L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <LWBill------@------.net> wrote in message
>>> news:47169039$0$26392$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
>>>> Ditto!
>>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>>> news:4716151a$0$4994$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>>>>> 'What' is a 'next generation' axle?
>>>>>
>>>>> It's not that aluminum thing that can't hold it's own weight on a jack
>>>>> like they put in the Grand is it?
>>>>>
>>>>> I 'really' wouldn't want one of those pieces of crap.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike
>>>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>>>>
>
>
