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larryariz 09-12-2007 02:41 PM

06 Jeep Wrangler X - Problem with Shimmy in Steering Wheel....
 
Hi all,

I have a new "06 Jeep Wrangler X" (Great Jeep!) with a grand total of
6192 miles.

When I drive about 60 mph on the freeway, the steering wheel wants to
"shimmy", i.e. turn to the left, then to the right and vice versa. I
have to hang tightly on this steering wheel or slow down to about 50
mph. I could really end up in the next lane, to the right or left.
It's really noticeable with the cross winds or on windy days. Slower
speeds on the regular city streets, it's OK.

I had it to the dealership last month and they test drove it and they
found nothing wrong. I also use this same jeep, to tow behind my RV.

Do I need more air pressure in the two front tires of this jeep, or
what else could be going on here????

There is a NHTSA ODI - Technical Service Bulletin out there and I'm
going to follow up on it.
Make : JEEP
Model : WRANGLER
Year : 2006
Manufacturer : DAIMLERCHRYSLER CORPORATION
Service Bulletin Num : 1900306
Date of Bulletin: AUG 30, 2006
NHTSA Item Number: 10020334
Component: STEERING
Summary: STEERING SHIMMY. *TT

Has anyone experience this same problem, if so...how did you solve
it??

Thanks,
: -)
Larryariz


Mike Romain 09-12-2007 03:06 PM

Re: 06 Jeep Wrangler X - Problem with Shimmy in Steering Wheel....
 
It is not nice to have 'The Death Wobble' in a new Jeep! That's nasty.

I would check the track bar ends out closely first. One way is to sit
and line up something on the ground with a crease in the hood, then turn
the steering side to side. If the nose of the Jeep wiggles side to side
with the steering, you have track bar issues. One end at the axle is a
bushing, the other end at the frame is a 'tie rod end'. Either can be
sloppy.

Did they check the toe in? That can cause wobble, but not the 'tacking
into the wind' a loose part causes unless it is way out.

You can check that yourself with a tape measure. I measure from the
tire seam on one side to the seam on the other side's tire in the front
of the tire and then do the same at the back of the tire as far up as
you can go on each and see the measurement. It should be slightly less
across the front, 1/8" or so.

Does the steering come back to straight after a turn or do you have to
pull it back?

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

larryariz wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I have a new "06 Jeep Wrangler X" (Great Jeep!) with a grand total of
> 6192 miles.
>
> When I drive about 60 mph on the freeway, the steering wheel wants to
> "shimmy", i.e. turn to the left, then to the right and vice versa. I
> have to hang tightly on this steering wheel or slow down to about 50
> mph. I could really end up in the next lane, to the right or left.
> It's really noticeable with the cross winds or on windy days. Slower
> speeds on the regular city streets, it's OK.
>
> I had it to the dealership last month and they test drove it and they
> found nothing wrong. I also use this same jeep, to tow behind my RV.
>
> Do I need more air pressure in the two front tires of this jeep, or
> what else could be going on here????
>
> There is a NHTSA ODI - Technical Service Bulletin out there and I'm
> going to follow up on it.
> Make : JEEP
> Model : WRANGLER
> Year : 2006
> Manufacturer : DAIMLERCHRYSLER CORPORATION
> Service Bulletin Num : 1900306
> Date of Bulletin: AUG 30, 2006
> NHTSA Item Number: 10020334
> Component: STEERING
> Summary: STEERING SHIMMY. *TT
>
> Has anyone experience this same problem, if so...how did you solve
> it??
>
> Thanks,
> : -)
> Larryariz
>


Mike Romain 09-12-2007 03:06 PM

Re: 06 Jeep Wrangler X - Problem with Shimmy in Steering Wheel....
 
It is not nice to have 'The Death Wobble' in a new Jeep! That's nasty.

I would check the track bar ends out closely first. One way is to sit
and line up something on the ground with a crease in the hood, then turn
the steering side to side. If the nose of the Jeep wiggles side to side
with the steering, you have track bar issues. One end at the axle is a
bushing, the other end at the frame is a 'tie rod end'. Either can be
sloppy.

Did they check the toe in? That can cause wobble, but not the 'tacking
into the wind' a loose part causes unless it is way out.

You can check that yourself with a tape measure. I measure from the
tire seam on one side to the seam on the other side's tire in the front
of the tire and then do the same at the back of the tire as far up as
you can go on each and see the measurement. It should be slightly less
across the front, 1/8" or so.

Does the steering come back to straight after a turn or do you have to
pull it back?

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

larryariz wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I have a new "06 Jeep Wrangler X" (Great Jeep!) with a grand total of
> 6192 miles.
>
> When I drive about 60 mph on the freeway, the steering wheel wants to
> "shimmy", i.e. turn to the left, then to the right and vice versa. I
> have to hang tightly on this steering wheel or slow down to about 50
> mph. I could really end up in the next lane, to the right or left.
> It's really noticeable with the cross winds or on windy days. Slower
> speeds on the regular city streets, it's OK.
>
> I had it to the dealership last month and they test drove it and they
> found nothing wrong. I also use this same jeep, to tow behind my RV.
>
> Do I need more air pressure in the two front tires of this jeep, or
> what else could be going on here????
>
> There is a NHTSA ODI - Technical Service Bulletin out there and I'm
> going to follow up on it.
> Make : JEEP
> Model : WRANGLER
> Year : 2006
> Manufacturer : DAIMLERCHRYSLER CORPORATION
> Service Bulletin Num : 1900306
> Date of Bulletin: AUG 30, 2006
> NHTSA Item Number: 10020334
> Component: STEERING
> Summary: STEERING SHIMMY. *TT
>
> Has anyone experience this same problem, if so...how did you solve
> it??
>
> Thanks,
> : -)
> Larryariz
>


Mike Romain 09-12-2007 03:06 PM

Re: 06 Jeep Wrangler X - Problem with Shimmy in Steering Wheel....
 
It is not nice to have 'The Death Wobble' in a new Jeep! That's nasty.

I would check the track bar ends out closely first. One way is to sit
and line up something on the ground with a crease in the hood, then turn
the steering side to side. If the nose of the Jeep wiggles side to side
with the steering, you have track bar issues. One end at the axle is a
bushing, the other end at the frame is a 'tie rod end'. Either can be
sloppy.

Did they check the toe in? That can cause wobble, but not the 'tacking
into the wind' a loose part causes unless it is way out.

You can check that yourself with a tape measure. I measure from the
tire seam on one side to the seam on the other side's tire in the front
of the tire and then do the same at the back of the tire as far up as
you can go on each and see the measurement. It should be slightly less
across the front, 1/8" or so.

Does the steering come back to straight after a turn or do you have to
pull it back?

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

larryariz wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I have a new "06 Jeep Wrangler X" (Great Jeep!) with a grand total of
> 6192 miles.
>
> When I drive about 60 mph on the freeway, the steering wheel wants to
> "shimmy", i.e. turn to the left, then to the right and vice versa. I
> have to hang tightly on this steering wheel or slow down to about 50
> mph. I could really end up in the next lane, to the right or left.
> It's really noticeable with the cross winds or on windy days. Slower
> speeds on the regular city streets, it's OK.
>
> I had it to the dealership last month and they test drove it and they
> found nothing wrong. I also use this same jeep, to tow behind my RV.
>
> Do I need more air pressure in the two front tires of this jeep, or
> what else could be going on here????
>
> There is a NHTSA ODI - Technical Service Bulletin out there and I'm
> going to follow up on it.
> Make : JEEP
> Model : WRANGLER
> Year : 2006
> Manufacturer : DAIMLERCHRYSLER CORPORATION
> Service Bulletin Num : 1900306
> Date of Bulletin: AUG 30, 2006
> NHTSA Item Number: 10020334
> Component: STEERING
> Summary: STEERING SHIMMY. *TT
>
> Has anyone experience this same problem, if so...how did you solve
> it??
>
> Thanks,
> : -)
> Larryariz
>


Mike Romain 09-12-2007 03:06 PM

Re: 06 Jeep Wrangler X - Problem with Shimmy in Steering Wheel....
 
It is not nice to have 'The Death Wobble' in a new Jeep! That's nasty.

I would check the track bar ends out closely first. One way is to sit
and line up something on the ground with a crease in the hood, then turn
the steering side to side. If the nose of the Jeep wiggles side to side
with the steering, you have track bar issues. One end at the axle is a
bushing, the other end at the frame is a 'tie rod end'. Either can be
sloppy.

Did they check the toe in? That can cause wobble, but not the 'tacking
into the wind' a loose part causes unless it is way out.

You can check that yourself with a tape measure. I measure from the
tire seam on one side to the seam on the other side's tire in the front
of the tire and then do the same at the back of the tire as far up as
you can go on each and see the measurement. It should be slightly less
across the front, 1/8" or so.

Does the steering come back to straight after a turn or do you have to
pull it back?

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

larryariz wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I have a new "06 Jeep Wrangler X" (Great Jeep!) with a grand total of
> 6192 miles.
>
> When I drive about 60 mph on the freeway, the steering wheel wants to
> "shimmy", i.e. turn to the left, then to the right and vice versa. I
> have to hang tightly on this steering wheel or slow down to about 50
> mph. I could really end up in the next lane, to the right or left.
> It's really noticeable with the cross winds or on windy days. Slower
> speeds on the regular city streets, it's OK.
>
> I had it to the dealership last month and they test drove it and they
> found nothing wrong. I also use this same jeep, to tow behind my RV.
>
> Do I need more air pressure in the two front tires of this jeep, or
> what else could be going on here????
>
> There is a NHTSA ODI - Technical Service Bulletin out there and I'm
> going to follow up on it.
> Make : JEEP
> Model : WRANGLER
> Year : 2006
> Manufacturer : DAIMLERCHRYSLER CORPORATION
> Service Bulletin Num : 1900306
> Date of Bulletin: AUG 30, 2006
> NHTSA Item Number: 10020334
> Component: STEERING
> Summary: STEERING SHIMMY. *TT
>
> Has anyone experience this same problem, if so...how did you solve
> it??
>
> Thanks,
> : -)
> Larryariz
>


L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 09-12-2007 03:28 PM

Re: 06 Jeep Wrangler X - Problem with Shimmy in Steering Wheel....
 
Hi Larry,
Tell Daimler to fix it: http://alldata.com/TSB/04/060406d2.html
Tire may just have mud caked on it causing it to be out of balance. Or
you hit something breaking the tire carcass, causing a bubble, throwing it
out of round, Or it just could be a bad tire casing that distorts at
different speeds, causing a "death wobble"
If you lifted it than your castor alignment is out of whack with the
type of coil spring suspension Daimler uses, and you just live with. Maybe
buy stronger steering stabilizer/dampener, or a Real Jeep with leaf springs:
http://----------.com/TJleafSprings/
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"larryariz" <larryariz@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1189622467.626884.314530@y42g2000hsy.googlegr oups.com...
> Hi all,
>
> I have a new "06 Jeep Wrangler X" (Great Jeep!) with a grand total of
> 6192 miles.
>
> When I drive about 60 mph on the freeway, the steering wheel wants to
> "shimmy", i.e. turn to the left, then to the right and vice versa. I
> have to hang tightly on this steering wheel or slow down to about 50
> mph. I could really end up in the next lane, to the right or left.
> It's really noticeable with the cross winds or on windy days. Slower
> speeds on the regular city streets, it's OK.
>
> I had it to the dealership last month and they test drove it and they
> found nothing wrong. I also use this same jeep, to tow behind my RV.
>
> Do I need more air pressure in the two front tires of this jeep, or
> what else could be going on here????
>
> There is a NHTSA ODI - Technical Service Bulletin out there and I'm
> going to follow up on it.
> Make : JEEP
> Model : WRANGLER
> Year : 2006
> Manufacturer : DAIMLERCHRYSLER CORPORATION
> Service Bulletin Num : 1900306
> Date of Bulletin: AUG 30, 2006
> NHTSA Item Number: 10020334
> Component: STEERING
> Summary: STEERING SHIMMY. *TT
>
> Has anyone experience this same problem, if so...how did you solve
> it??
>
> Thanks,
> : -)
> Larryariz
>




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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 09-12-2007 03:28 PM

Re: 06 Jeep Wrangler X - Problem with Shimmy in Steering Wheel....
 
Hi Larry,
Tell Daimler to fix it: http://alldata.com/TSB/04/060406d2.html
Tire may just have mud caked on it causing it to be out of balance. Or
you hit something breaking the tire carcass, causing a bubble, throwing it
out of round, Or it just could be a bad tire casing that distorts at
different speeds, causing a "death wobble"
If you lifted it than your castor alignment is out of whack with the
type of coil spring suspension Daimler uses, and you just live with. Maybe
buy stronger steering stabilizer/dampener, or a Real Jeep with leaf springs:
http://----------.com/TJleafSprings/
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"larryariz" <larryariz@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1189622467.626884.314530@y42g2000hsy.googlegr oups.com...
> Hi all,
>
> I have a new "06 Jeep Wrangler X" (Great Jeep!) with a grand total of
> 6192 miles.
>
> When I drive about 60 mph on the freeway, the steering wheel wants to
> "shimmy", i.e. turn to the left, then to the right and vice versa. I
> have to hang tightly on this steering wheel or slow down to about 50
> mph. I could really end up in the next lane, to the right or left.
> It's really noticeable with the cross winds or on windy days. Slower
> speeds on the regular city streets, it's OK.
>
> I had it to the dealership last month and they test drove it and they
> found nothing wrong. I also use this same jeep, to tow behind my RV.
>
> Do I need more air pressure in the two front tires of this jeep, or
> what else could be going on here????
>
> There is a NHTSA ODI - Technical Service Bulletin out there and I'm
> going to follow up on it.
> Make : JEEP
> Model : WRANGLER
> Year : 2006
> Manufacturer : DAIMLERCHRYSLER CORPORATION
> Service Bulletin Num : 1900306
> Date of Bulletin: AUG 30, 2006
> NHTSA Item Number: 10020334
> Component: STEERING
> Summary: STEERING SHIMMY. *TT
>
> Has anyone experience this same problem, if so...how did you solve
> it??
>
> Thanks,
> : -)
> Larryariz
>




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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 09-12-2007 03:28 PM

Re: 06 Jeep Wrangler X - Problem with Shimmy in Steering Wheel....
 
Hi Larry,
Tell Daimler to fix it: http://alldata.com/TSB/04/060406d2.html
Tire may just have mud caked on it causing it to be out of balance. Or
you hit something breaking the tire carcass, causing a bubble, throwing it
out of round, Or it just could be a bad tire casing that distorts at
different speeds, causing a "death wobble"
If you lifted it than your castor alignment is out of whack with the
type of coil spring suspension Daimler uses, and you just live with. Maybe
buy stronger steering stabilizer/dampener, or a Real Jeep with leaf springs:
http://----------.com/TJleafSprings/
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"larryariz" <larryariz@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1189622467.626884.314530@y42g2000hsy.googlegr oups.com...
> Hi all,
>
> I have a new "06 Jeep Wrangler X" (Great Jeep!) with a grand total of
> 6192 miles.
>
> When I drive about 60 mph on the freeway, the steering wheel wants to
> "shimmy", i.e. turn to the left, then to the right and vice versa. I
> have to hang tightly on this steering wheel or slow down to about 50
> mph. I could really end up in the next lane, to the right or left.
> It's really noticeable with the cross winds or on windy days. Slower
> speeds on the regular city streets, it's OK.
>
> I had it to the dealership last month and they test drove it and they
> found nothing wrong. I also use this same jeep, to tow behind my RV.
>
> Do I need more air pressure in the two front tires of this jeep, or
> what else could be going on here????
>
> There is a NHTSA ODI - Technical Service Bulletin out there and I'm
> going to follow up on it.
> Make : JEEP
> Model : WRANGLER
> Year : 2006
> Manufacturer : DAIMLERCHRYSLER CORPORATION
> Service Bulletin Num : 1900306
> Date of Bulletin: AUG 30, 2006
> NHTSA Item Number: 10020334
> Component: STEERING
> Summary: STEERING SHIMMY. *TT
>
> Has anyone experience this same problem, if so...how did you solve
> it??
>
> Thanks,
> : -)
> Larryariz
>




--
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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 09-12-2007 03:28 PM

Re: 06 Jeep Wrangler X - Problem with Shimmy in Steering Wheel....
 
Hi Larry,
Tell Daimler to fix it: http://alldata.com/TSB/04/060406d2.html
Tire may just have mud caked on it causing it to be out of balance. Or
you hit something breaking the tire carcass, causing a bubble, throwing it
out of round, Or it just could be a bad tire casing that distorts at
different speeds, causing a "death wobble"
If you lifted it than your castor alignment is out of whack with the
type of coil spring suspension Daimler uses, and you just live with. Maybe
buy stronger steering stabilizer/dampener, or a Real Jeep with leaf springs:
http://----------.com/TJleafSprings/
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"larryariz" <larryariz@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1189622467.626884.314530@y42g2000hsy.googlegr oups.com...
> Hi all,
>
> I have a new "06 Jeep Wrangler X" (Great Jeep!) with a grand total of
> 6192 miles.
>
> When I drive about 60 mph on the freeway, the steering wheel wants to
> "shimmy", i.e. turn to the left, then to the right and vice versa. I
> have to hang tightly on this steering wheel or slow down to about 50
> mph. I could really end up in the next lane, to the right or left.
> It's really noticeable with the cross winds or on windy days. Slower
> speeds on the regular city streets, it's OK.
>
> I had it to the dealership last month and they test drove it and they
> found nothing wrong. I also use this same jeep, to tow behind my RV.
>
> Do I need more air pressure in the two front tires of this jeep, or
> what else could be going on here????
>
> There is a NHTSA ODI - Technical Service Bulletin out there and I'm
> going to follow up on it.
> Make : JEEP
> Model : WRANGLER
> Year : 2006
> Manufacturer : DAIMLERCHRYSLER CORPORATION
> Service Bulletin Num : 1900306
> Date of Bulletin: AUG 30, 2006
> NHTSA Item Number: 10020334
> Component: STEERING
> Summary: STEERING SHIMMY. *TT
>
> Has anyone experience this same problem, if so...how did you solve
> it??
>
> Thanks,
> : -)
> Larryariz
>




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L. Ron Waddle 09-12-2007 06:17 PM

Re: 06 Jeep Wrangler X - Problem with Shimmy in Steering Wheel....
 
larryariz wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I have a new "06 Jeep Wrangler X" (Great Jeep!) with a grand total of
> 6192 miles.
>
> When I drive about 60 mph on the freeway, the steering wheel wants to
> "shimmy", i.e. turn to the left, then to the right and vice versa. I
> have to hang tightly on this steering wheel or slow down to about 50
> mph. I could really end up in the next lane, to the right or left.
> It's really noticeable with the cross winds or on windy days. Slower
> speeds on the regular city streets, it's OK.


Did this start happening after you rotated the tires at 6,000 miles as
specified in the service interval? If so, rotate the tires back one at a
time and see if this "cures" the problem. Rotate through your spare if
you only have the jack that came with your Jeep (and thus can only lift
one wheel at a time) and use an X-type lug wrench available at Sears or
etc. rather than the pathetic thing that came with your Jeep. On an
unlifted Jeep often the "shimmy" is nothing more than an out-of-round
and/or out-of-balance tire. The OEM tires in particular are notorious
for being pathetic.

I had a bit of vibration in my (2" lifted) TJ's steering wheel at speed,
though nothing as bad as what you describe. New tires solved it. But
balancing would have solved it too. (But I wanted 32" tires on my Heap :-).

-Elron

L. Ron Waddle 09-12-2007 06:17 PM

Re: 06 Jeep Wrangler X - Problem with Shimmy in Steering Wheel....
 
larryariz wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I have a new "06 Jeep Wrangler X" (Great Jeep!) with a grand total of
> 6192 miles.
>
> When I drive about 60 mph on the freeway, the steering wheel wants to
> "shimmy", i.e. turn to the left, then to the right and vice versa. I
> have to hang tightly on this steering wheel or slow down to about 50
> mph. I could really end up in the next lane, to the right or left.
> It's really noticeable with the cross winds or on windy days. Slower
> speeds on the regular city streets, it's OK.


Did this start happening after you rotated the tires at 6,000 miles as
specified in the service interval? If so, rotate the tires back one at a
time and see if this "cures" the problem. Rotate through your spare if
you only have the jack that came with your Jeep (and thus can only lift
one wheel at a time) and use an X-type lug wrench available at Sears or
etc. rather than the pathetic thing that came with your Jeep. On an
unlifted Jeep often the "shimmy" is nothing more than an out-of-round
and/or out-of-balance tire. The OEM tires in particular are notorious
for being pathetic.

I had a bit of vibration in my (2" lifted) TJ's steering wheel at speed,
though nothing as bad as what you describe. New tires solved it. But
balancing would have solved it too. (But I wanted 32" tires on my Heap :-).

-Elron

L. Ron Waddle 09-12-2007 06:17 PM

Re: 06 Jeep Wrangler X - Problem with Shimmy in Steering Wheel....
 
larryariz wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I have a new "06 Jeep Wrangler X" (Great Jeep!) with a grand total of
> 6192 miles.
>
> When I drive about 60 mph on the freeway, the steering wheel wants to
> "shimmy", i.e. turn to the left, then to the right and vice versa. I
> have to hang tightly on this steering wheel or slow down to about 50
> mph. I could really end up in the next lane, to the right or left.
> It's really noticeable with the cross winds or on windy days. Slower
> speeds on the regular city streets, it's OK.


Did this start happening after you rotated the tires at 6,000 miles as
specified in the service interval? If so, rotate the tires back one at a
time and see if this "cures" the problem. Rotate through your spare if
you only have the jack that came with your Jeep (and thus can only lift
one wheel at a time) and use an X-type lug wrench available at Sears or
etc. rather than the pathetic thing that came with your Jeep. On an
unlifted Jeep often the "shimmy" is nothing more than an out-of-round
and/or out-of-balance tire. The OEM tires in particular are notorious
for being pathetic.

I had a bit of vibration in my (2" lifted) TJ's steering wheel at speed,
though nothing as bad as what you describe. New tires solved it. But
balancing would have solved it too. (But I wanted 32" tires on my Heap :-).

-Elron

L. Ron Waddle 09-12-2007 06:17 PM

Re: 06 Jeep Wrangler X - Problem with Shimmy in Steering Wheel....
 
larryariz wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I have a new "06 Jeep Wrangler X" (Great Jeep!) with a grand total of
> 6192 miles.
>
> When I drive about 60 mph on the freeway, the steering wheel wants to
> "shimmy", i.e. turn to the left, then to the right and vice versa. I
> have to hang tightly on this steering wheel or slow down to about 50
> mph. I could really end up in the next lane, to the right or left.
> It's really noticeable with the cross winds or on windy days. Slower
> speeds on the regular city streets, it's OK.


Did this start happening after you rotated the tires at 6,000 miles as
specified in the service interval? If so, rotate the tires back one at a
time and see if this "cures" the problem. Rotate through your spare if
you only have the jack that came with your Jeep (and thus can only lift
one wheel at a time) and use an X-type lug wrench available at Sears or
etc. rather than the pathetic thing that came with your Jeep. On an
unlifted Jeep often the "shimmy" is nothing more than an out-of-round
and/or out-of-balance tire. The OEM tires in particular are notorious
for being pathetic.

I had a bit of vibration in my (2" lifted) TJ's steering wheel at speed,
though nothing as bad as what you describe. New tires solved it. But
balancing would have solved it too. (But I wanted 32" tires on my Heap :-).

-Elron

twaldron 09-12-2007 07:13 PM

Re: 06 Jeep Wrangler X - Problem with Shimmy in Steering Wheel....
 
L. Ron Waddle wrote:

> larryariz wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I have a new "06 Jeep Wrangler X" (Great Jeep!) with a grand total of
>> 6192 miles.
>>
>> When I drive about 60 mph on the freeway, the steering wheel wants to
>> "shimmy", i.e. turn to the left, then to the right and vice versa. I
>> have to hang tightly on this steering wheel or slow down to about 50
>> mph. I could really end up in the next lane, to the right or left.
>> It's really noticeable with the cross winds or on windy days. Slower
>> speeds on the regular city streets, it's OK.

>
>
> Did this start happening after you rotated the tires at 6,000 miles as
> specified in the service interval? If so, rotate the tires back one at a
> time and see if this "cures" the problem. Rotate through your spare if
> you only have the jack that came with your Jeep (and thus can only lift
> one wheel at a time) and use an X-type lug wrench available at Sears or
> etc. rather than the pathetic thing that came with your Jeep. On an
> unlifted Jeep often the "shimmy" is nothing more than an out-of-round
> and/or out-of-balance tire. The OEM tires in particular are notorious
> for being pathetic.
>
> I had a bit of vibration in my (2" lifted) TJ's steering wheel at speed,
> though nothing as bad as what you describe. New tires solved it. But
> balancing would have solved it too. (But I wanted 32" tires on my Heap :-).
>
> -Elron



Yep, poor tire balance is the biggest cause. The bigger the tire, or the
bigger the imbalance the more magnified the pucker factor. You may have
slung your weights.

tw

twaldron 09-12-2007 07:13 PM

Re: 06 Jeep Wrangler X - Problem with Shimmy in Steering Wheel....
 
L. Ron Waddle wrote:

> larryariz wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I have a new "06 Jeep Wrangler X" (Great Jeep!) with a grand total of
>> 6192 miles.
>>
>> When I drive about 60 mph on the freeway, the steering wheel wants to
>> "shimmy", i.e. turn to the left, then to the right and vice versa. I
>> have to hang tightly on this steering wheel or slow down to about 50
>> mph. I could really end up in the next lane, to the right or left.
>> It's really noticeable with the cross winds or on windy days. Slower
>> speeds on the regular city streets, it's OK.

>
>
> Did this start happening after you rotated the tires at 6,000 miles as
> specified in the service interval? If so, rotate the tires back one at a
> time and see if this "cures" the problem. Rotate through your spare if
> you only have the jack that came with your Jeep (and thus can only lift
> one wheel at a time) and use an X-type lug wrench available at Sears or
> etc. rather than the pathetic thing that came with your Jeep. On an
> unlifted Jeep often the "shimmy" is nothing more than an out-of-round
> and/or out-of-balance tire. The OEM tires in particular are notorious
> for being pathetic.
>
> I had a bit of vibration in my (2" lifted) TJ's steering wheel at speed,
> though nothing as bad as what you describe. New tires solved it. But
> balancing would have solved it too. (But I wanted 32" tires on my Heap :-).
>
> -Elron



Yep, poor tire balance is the biggest cause. The bigger the tire, or the
bigger the imbalance the more magnified the pucker factor. You may have
slung your weights.

tw

twaldron 09-12-2007 07:13 PM

Re: 06 Jeep Wrangler X - Problem with Shimmy in Steering Wheel....
 
L. Ron Waddle wrote:

> larryariz wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I have a new "06 Jeep Wrangler X" (Great Jeep!) with a grand total of
>> 6192 miles.
>>
>> When I drive about 60 mph on the freeway, the steering wheel wants to
>> "shimmy", i.e. turn to the left, then to the right and vice versa. I
>> have to hang tightly on this steering wheel or slow down to about 50
>> mph. I could really end up in the next lane, to the right or left.
>> It's really noticeable with the cross winds or on windy days. Slower
>> speeds on the regular city streets, it's OK.

>
>
> Did this start happening after you rotated the tires at 6,000 miles as
> specified in the service interval? If so, rotate the tires back one at a
> time and see if this "cures" the problem. Rotate through your spare if
> you only have the jack that came with your Jeep (and thus can only lift
> one wheel at a time) and use an X-type lug wrench available at Sears or
> etc. rather than the pathetic thing that came with your Jeep. On an
> unlifted Jeep often the "shimmy" is nothing more than an out-of-round
> and/or out-of-balance tire. The OEM tires in particular are notorious
> for being pathetic.
>
> I had a bit of vibration in my (2" lifted) TJ's steering wheel at speed,
> though nothing as bad as what you describe. New tires solved it. But
> balancing would have solved it too. (But I wanted 32" tires on my Heap :-).
>
> -Elron



Yep, poor tire balance is the biggest cause. The bigger the tire, or the
bigger the imbalance the more magnified the pucker factor. You may have
slung your weights.

tw

twaldron 09-12-2007 07:13 PM

Re: 06 Jeep Wrangler X - Problem with Shimmy in Steering Wheel....
 
L. Ron Waddle wrote:

> larryariz wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I have a new "06 Jeep Wrangler X" (Great Jeep!) with a grand total of
>> 6192 miles.
>>
>> When I drive about 60 mph on the freeway, the steering wheel wants to
>> "shimmy", i.e. turn to the left, then to the right and vice versa. I
>> have to hang tightly on this steering wheel or slow down to about 50
>> mph. I could really end up in the next lane, to the right or left.
>> It's really noticeable with the cross winds or on windy days. Slower
>> speeds on the regular city streets, it's OK.

>
>
> Did this start happening after you rotated the tires at 6,000 miles as
> specified in the service interval? If so, rotate the tires back one at a
> time and see if this "cures" the problem. Rotate through your spare if
> you only have the jack that came with your Jeep (and thus can only lift
> one wheel at a time) and use an X-type lug wrench available at Sears or
> etc. rather than the pathetic thing that came with your Jeep. On an
> unlifted Jeep often the "shimmy" is nothing more than an out-of-round
> and/or out-of-balance tire. The OEM tires in particular are notorious
> for being pathetic.
>
> I had a bit of vibration in my (2" lifted) TJ's steering wheel at speed,
> though nothing as bad as what you describe. New tires solved it. But
> balancing would have solved it too. (But I wanted 32" tires on my Heap :-).
>
> -Elron



Yep, poor tire balance is the biggest cause. The bigger the tire, or the
bigger the imbalance the more magnified the pucker factor. You may have
slung your weights.

tw

Spdloader 09-12-2007 08:14 PM

Re: 06 Jeep Wrangler X - Problem with Shimmy in Steering Wheel....
 

"larryariz" <larryariz@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1189622467.626884.314530@y42g2000hsy.googlegr oups.com...
> Hi all,
>
> I have a new "06 Jeep Wrangler X" (Great Jeep!) with a grand total of
> 6192 miles.
>
> When I drive about 60 mph on the freeway, the steering wheel wants to
> "shimmy", i.e. turn to the left, then to the right and vice versa. I
> have to hang tightly on this steering wheel or slow down to about 50
> mph. I could really end up in the next lane, to the right or left.
> It's really noticeable with the cross winds or on windy days. Slower
> speeds on the regular city streets, it's OK.
>
> I had it to the dealership last month and they test drove it and they
> found nothing wrong. I also use this same jeep, to tow behind my RV.
>
> Do I need more air pressure in the two front tires of this jeep, or
> what else could be going on here????
>
> There is a NHTSA ODI - Technical Service Bulletin out there and I'm
> going to follow up on it.
> Make : JEEP
> Model : WRANGLER
> Year : 2006
> Manufacturer : DAIMLERCHRYSLER CORPORATION
> Service Bulletin Num : 1900306
> Date of Bulletin: AUG 30, 2006
> NHTSA Item Number: 10020334
> Component: STEERING
> Summary: STEERING SHIMMY. *TT
>
> Has anyone experience this same problem, if so...how did you solve
> it??
>
> Thanks,
> : -)
> Larryariz
>


As has already been suggested, tire balance, or tire with a slipped belt.
Balance your tires every time you rotate. Wearing rubber off changes the
balance.
Balancing is part of normal maintenance, as are alignments and rotations.
Steering wheel shake means front tires probably.
Seat of the pants means rear tires probably.
Spdloader



Spdloader 09-12-2007 08:14 PM

Re: 06 Jeep Wrangler X - Problem with Shimmy in Steering Wheel....
 

"larryariz" <larryariz@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1189622467.626884.314530@y42g2000hsy.googlegr oups.com...
> Hi all,
>
> I have a new "06 Jeep Wrangler X" (Great Jeep!) with a grand total of
> 6192 miles.
>
> When I drive about 60 mph on the freeway, the steering wheel wants to
> "shimmy", i.e. turn to the left, then to the right and vice versa. I
> have to hang tightly on this steering wheel or slow down to about 50
> mph. I could really end up in the next lane, to the right or left.
> It's really noticeable with the cross winds or on windy days. Slower
> speeds on the regular city streets, it's OK.
>
> I had it to the dealership last month and they test drove it and they
> found nothing wrong. I also use this same jeep, to tow behind my RV.
>
> Do I need more air pressure in the two front tires of this jeep, or
> what else could be going on here????
>
> There is a NHTSA ODI - Technical Service Bulletin out there and I'm
> going to follow up on it.
> Make : JEEP
> Model : WRANGLER
> Year : 2006
> Manufacturer : DAIMLERCHRYSLER CORPORATION
> Service Bulletin Num : 1900306
> Date of Bulletin: AUG 30, 2006
> NHTSA Item Number: 10020334
> Component: STEERING
> Summary: STEERING SHIMMY. *TT
>
> Has anyone experience this same problem, if so...how did you solve
> it??
>
> Thanks,
> : -)
> Larryariz
>


As has already been suggested, tire balance, or tire with a slipped belt.
Balance your tires every time you rotate. Wearing rubber off changes the
balance.
Balancing is part of normal maintenance, as are alignments and rotations.
Steering wheel shake means front tires probably.
Seat of the pants means rear tires probably.
Spdloader



Spdloader 09-12-2007 08:14 PM

Re: 06 Jeep Wrangler X - Problem with Shimmy in Steering Wheel....
 

"larryariz" <larryariz@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1189622467.626884.314530@y42g2000hsy.googlegr oups.com...
> Hi all,
>
> I have a new "06 Jeep Wrangler X" (Great Jeep!) with a grand total of
> 6192 miles.
>
> When I drive about 60 mph on the freeway, the steering wheel wants to
> "shimmy", i.e. turn to the left, then to the right and vice versa. I
> have to hang tightly on this steering wheel or slow down to about 50
> mph. I could really end up in the next lane, to the right or left.
> It's really noticeable with the cross winds or on windy days. Slower
> speeds on the regular city streets, it's OK.
>
> I had it to the dealership last month and they test drove it and they
> found nothing wrong. I also use this same jeep, to tow behind my RV.
>
> Do I need more air pressure in the two front tires of this jeep, or
> what else could be going on here????
>
> There is a NHTSA ODI - Technical Service Bulletin out there and I'm
> going to follow up on it.
> Make : JEEP
> Model : WRANGLER
> Year : 2006
> Manufacturer : DAIMLERCHRYSLER CORPORATION
> Service Bulletin Num : 1900306
> Date of Bulletin: AUG 30, 2006
> NHTSA Item Number: 10020334
> Component: STEERING
> Summary: STEERING SHIMMY. *TT
>
> Has anyone experience this same problem, if so...how did you solve
> it??
>
> Thanks,
> : -)
> Larryariz
>


As has already been suggested, tire balance, or tire with a slipped belt.
Balance your tires every time you rotate. Wearing rubber off changes the
balance.
Balancing is part of normal maintenance, as are alignments and rotations.
Steering wheel shake means front tires probably.
Seat of the pants means rear tires probably.
Spdloader



Spdloader 09-12-2007 08:14 PM

Re: 06 Jeep Wrangler X - Problem with Shimmy in Steering Wheel....
 

"larryariz" <larryariz@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1189622467.626884.314530@y42g2000hsy.googlegr oups.com...
> Hi all,
>
> I have a new "06 Jeep Wrangler X" (Great Jeep!) with a grand total of
> 6192 miles.
>
> When I drive about 60 mph on the freeway, the steering wheel wants to
> "shimmy", i.e. turn to the left, then to the right and vice versa. I
> have to hang tightly on this steering wheel or slow down to about 50
> mph. I could really end up in the next lane, to the right or left.
> It's really noticeable with the cross winds or on windy days. Slower
> speeds on the regular city streets, it's OK.
>
> I had it to the dealership last month and they test drove it and they
> found nothing wrong. I also use this same jeep, to tow behind my RV.
>
> Do I need more air pressure in the two front tires of this jeep, or
> what else could be going on here????
>
> There is a NHTSA ODI - Technical Service Bulletin out there and I'm
> going to follow up on it.
> Make : JEEP
> Model : WRANGLER
> Year : 2006
> Manufacturer : DAIMLERCHRYSLER CORPORATION
> Service Bulletin Num : 1900306
> Date of Bulletin: AUG 30, 2006
> NHTSA Item Number: 10020334
> Component: STEERING
> Summary: STEERING SHIMMY. *TT
>
> Has anyone experience this same problem, if so...how did you solve
> it??
>
> Thanks,
> : -)
> Larryariz
>


As has already been suggested, tire balance, or tire with a slipped belt.
Balance your tires every time you rotate. Wearing rubber off changes the
balance.
Balancing is part of normal maintenance, as are alignments and rotations.
Steering wheel shake means front tires probably.
Seat of the pants means rear tires probably.
Spdloader



Jamie Mello 09-13-2007 02:07 AM

Re: 06 Jeep Wrangler X - Problem with Shimmy in Steering Wheel....
 
You may also want to check your track bar bushing.













99 wrangler 31 inch good year mtr tires warn M8000 winch 2.5 lift
skyjacker shocks a lot of lights (winch,hood,bumper, wind shield) Even
more toys to come

Some people have an addiction to drink...
Some people have an addiction to drugs....
I just have an addiction to Jeeps and their accessories....

Here are a few pictures of my rig I will update soon as I get new
batteries for my cam

http://s217.photobucket.com/albums/cc222/99_wrangler


Jamie Mello 09-13-2007 02:07 AM

Re: 06 Jeep Wrangler X - Problem with Shimmy in Steering Wheel....
 
You may also want to check your track bar bushing.













99 wrangler 31 inch good year mtr tires warn M8000 winch 2.5 lift
skyjacker shocks a lot of lights (winch,hood,bumper, wind shield) Even
more toys to come

Some people have an addiction to drink...
Some people have an addiction to drugs....
I just have an addiction to Jeeps and their accessories....

Here are a few pictures of my rig I will update soon as I get new
batteries for my cam

http://s217.photobucket.com/albums/cc222/99_wrangler


Jamie Mello 09-13-2007 02:07 AM

Re: 06 Jeep Wrangler X - Problem with Shimmy in Steering Wheel....
 
You may also want to check your track bar bushing.













99 wrangler 31 inch good year mtr tires warn M8000 winch 2.5 lift
skyjacker shocks a lot of lights (winch,hood,bumper, wind shield) Even
more toys to come

Some people have an addiction to drink...
Some people have an addiction to drugs....
I just have an addiction to Jeeps and their accessories....

Here are a few pictures of my rig I will update soon as I get new
batteries for my cam

http://s217.photobucket.com/albums/cc222/99_wrangler


Jamie Mello 09-13-2007 02:07 AM

Re: 06 Jeep Wrangler X - Problem with Shimmy in Steering Wheel....
 
You may also want to check your track bar bushing.













99 wrangler 31 inch good year mtr tires warn M8000 winch 2.5 lift
skyjacker shocks a lot of lights (winch,hood,bumper, wind shield) Even
more toys to come

Some people have an addiction to drink...
Some people have an addiction to drugs....
I just have an addiction to Jeeps and their accessories....

Here are a few pictures of my rig I will update soon as I get new
batteries for my cam

http://s217.photobucket.com/albums/cc222/99_wrangler


larryariz 09-19-2007 06:25 PM

Re: 06 Jeep Wrangler X - Problem with Shimmy in Steering Wheel....
 
I took my Jeep to the dealer today, and they replaced the steering
dampner/linkage at no charge. It took two trips, but it looks like
this was the problem. They did not find this problem, the first time
around. Finally, the steering is much much better. I'll run this
jeep on the freeway later today, to give it a good test run.

All I can say...my THANKS!!!!, to this group and their suggestions.
The "Technical Service Bulletin" made the difference. It's amazing
what a little piece of paper can do.


So, if you have a 06 Jeep Wrangler X,
> > > > > get this "Technical Service Bulletin" service

done on your vehicle.

Thanks,
: -)
Larry




> There is a NHTSA ODI - Technical Service Bulletin out there and I'm
> going to follow up on it.
> Make : JEEP
> Model : WRANGLER
> Year : 2006
> Manufacturer : DAIMLERCHRYSLER CORPORATION
> Service Bulletin Num : 1900306
> Date of Bulletin: AUG 30, 2006
> NHTSA Item Number: 10020334
> Component: STEERING
> Summary: STEERING SHIMMY. *TT



larryariz 09-19-2007 06:25 PM

Re: 06 Jeep Wrangler X - Problem with Shimmy in Steering Wheel....
 
I took my Jeep to the dealer today, and they replaced the steering
dampner/linkage at no charge. It took two trips, but it looks like
this was the problem. They did not find this problem, the first time
around. Finally, the steering is much much better. I'll run this
jeep on the freeway later today, to give it a good test run.

All I can say...my THANKS!!!!, to this group and their suggestions.
The "Technical Service Bulletin" made the difference. It's amazing
what a little piece of paper can do.


So, if you have a 06 Jeep Wrangler X,
> > > > > get this "Technical Service Bulletin" service

done on your vehicle.

Thanks,
: -)
Larry




> There is a NHTSA ODI - Technical Service Bulletin out there and I'm
> going to follow up on it.
> Make : JEEP
> Model : WRANGLER
> Year : 2006
> Manufacturer : DAIMLERCHRYSLER CORPORATION
> Service Bulletin Num : 1900306
> Date of Bulletin: AUG 30, 2006
> NHTSA Item Number: 10020334
> Component: STEERING
> Summary: STEERING SHIMMY. *TT



larryariz 09-19-2007 06:25 PM

Re: 06 Jeep Wrangler X - Problem with Shimmy in Steering Wheel....
 
I took my Jeep to the dealer today, and they replaced the steering
dampner/linkage at no charge. It took two trips, but it looks like
this was the problem. They did not find this problem, the first time
around. Finally, the steering is much much better. I'll run this
jeep on the freeway later today, to give it a good test run.

All I can say...my THANKS!!!!, to this group and their suggestions.
The "Technical Service Bulletin" made the difference. It's amazing
what a little piece of paper can do.


So, if you have a 06 Jeep Wrangler X,
> > > > > get this "Technical Service Bulletin" service

done on your vehicle.

Thanks,
: -)
Larry




> There is a NHTSA ODI - Technical Service Bulletin out there and I'm
> going to follow up on it.
> Make : JEEP
> Model : WRANGLER
> Year : 2006
> Manufacturer : DAIMLERCHRYSLER CORPORATION
> Service Bulletin Num : 1900306
> Date of Bulletin: AUG 30, 2006
> NHTSA Item Number: 10020334
> Component: STEERING
> Summary: STEERING SHIMMY. *TT



larryariz 09-19-2007 06:25 PM

Re: 06 Jeep Wrangler X - Problem with Shimmy in Steering Wheel....
 
I took my Jeep to the dealer today, and they replaced the steering
dampner/linkage at no charge. It took two trips, but it looks like
this was the problem. They did not find this problem, the first time
around. Finally, the steering is much much better. I'll run this
jeep on the freeway later today, to give it a good test run.

All I can say...my THANKS!!!!, to this group and their suggestions.
The "Technical Service Bulletin" made the difference. It's amazing
what a little piece of paper can do.


So, if you have a 06 Jeep Wrangler X,
> > > > > get this "Technical Service Bulletin" service

done on your vehicle.

Thanks,
: -)
Larry




> There is a NHTSA ODI - Technical Service Bulletin out there and I'm
> going to follow up on it.
> Make : JEEP
> Model : WRANGLER
> Year : 2006
> Manufacturer : DAIMLERCHRYSLER CORPORATION
> Service Bulletin Num : 1900306
> Date of Bulletin: AUG 30, 2006
> NHTSA Item Number: 10020334
> Component: STEERING
> Summary: STEERING SHIMMY. *TT



Mike Romain 09-19-2007 06:54 PM

Re: 06 Jeep Wrangler X - Problem with Shimmy in Steering Wheel....
 
Thanks for the followup!

That sure is strange for a new vehicle to need a damper to keep it
tracking. It must be running on the borderline for alignment to set off
the shimmy.

I have managed to keep the alignment good enough on my CJ7 for the last
ten years that I didn't even realize I don't have a functioning damper
and never had. It is an empty tube with a rod sticking out.

I just got a dual shock setup for it that I need to install, it aught to
drive wicked on the trails with a steering shock on my 33's.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

larryariz wrote:
> I took my Jeep to the dealer today, and they replaced the steering
> dampner/linkage at no charge. It took two trips, but it looks like
> this was the problem. They did not find this problem, the first time
> around. Finally, the steering is much much better. I'll run this
> jeep on the freeway later today, to give it a good test run.
>
> All I can say...my THANKS!!!!, to this group and their suggestions.
> The "Technical Service Bulletin" made the difference. It's amazing
> what a little piece of paper can do.
>
>
> So, if you have a 06 Jeep Wrangler X,
> > > > > > get this "Technical Service Bulletin" service

> done on your vehicle.
>
> Thanks,
> : -)
> Larry
>
>
>
>
>> There is a NHTSA ODI - Technical Service Bulletin out there and I'm
>> going to follow up on it.
>> Make : JEEP
>> Model : WRANGLER
>> Year : 2006
>> Manufacturer : DAIMLERCHRYSLER CORPORATION
>> Service Bulletin Num : 1900306
>> Date of Bulletin: AUG 30, 2006
>> NHTSA Item Number: 10020334
>> Component: STEERING
>> Summary: STEERING SHIMMY. *TT

>


Mike Romain 09-19-2007 06:54 PM

Re: 06 Jeep Wrangler X - Problem with Shimmy in Steering Wheel....
 
Thanks for the followup!

That sure is strange for a new vehicle to need a damper to keep it
tracking. It must be running on the borderline for alignment to set off
the shimmy.

I have managed to keep the alignment good enough on my CJ7 for the last
ten years that I didn't even realize I don't have a functioning damper
and never had. It is an empty tube with a rod sticking out.

I just got a dual shock setup for it that I need to install, it aught to
drive wicked on the trails with a steering shock on my 33's.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

larryariz wrote:
> I took my Jeep to the dealer today, and they replaced the steering
> dampner/linkage at no charge. It took two trips, but it looks like
> this was the problem. They did not find this problem, the first time
> around. Finally, the steering is much much better. I'll run this
> jeep on the freeway later today, to give it a good test run.
>
> All I can say...my THANKS!!!!, to this group and their suggestions.
> The "Technical Service Bulletin" made the difference. It's amazing
> what a little piece of paper can do.
>
>
> So, if you have a 06 Jeep Wrangler X,
> > > > > > get this "Technical Service Bulletin" service

> done on your vehicle.
>
> Thanks,
> : -)
> Larry
>
>
>
>
>> There is a NHTSA ODI - Technical Service Bulletin out there and I'm
>> going to follow up on it.
>> Make : JEEP
>> Model : WRANGLER
>> Year : 2006
>> Manufacturer : DAIMLERCHRYSLER CORPORATION
>> Service Bulletin Num : 1900306
>> Date of Bulletin: AUG 30, 2006
>> NHTSA Item Number: 10020334
>> Component: STEERING
>> Summary: STEERING SHIMMY. *TT

>


Mike Romain 09-19-2007 06:54 PM

Re: 06 Jeep Wrangler X - Problem with Shimmy in Steering Wheel....
 
Thanks for the followup!

That sure is strange for a new vehicle to need a damper to keep it
tracking. It must be running on the borderline for alignment to set off
the shimmy.

I have managed to keep the alignment good enough on my CJ7 for the last
ten years that I didn't even realize I don't have a functioning damper
and never had. It is an empty tube with a rod sticking out.

I just got a dual shock setup for it that I need to install, it aught to
drive wicked on the trails with a steering shock on my 33's.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

larryariz wrote:
> I took my Jeep to the dealer today, and they replaced the steering
> dampner/linkage at no charge. It took two trips, but it looks like
> this was the problem. They did not find this problem, the first time
> around. Finally, the steering is much much better. I'll run this
> jeep on the freeway later today, to give it a good test run.
>
> All I can say...my THANKS!!!!, to this group and their suggestions.
> The "Technical Service Bulletin" made the difference. It's amazing
> what a little piece of paper can do.
>
>
> So, if you have a 06 Jeep Wrangler X,
> > > > > > get this "Technical Service Bulletin" service

> done on your vehicle.
>
> Thanks,
> : -)
> Larry
>
>
>
>
>> There is a NHTSA ODI - Technical Service Bulletin out there and I'm
>> going to follow up on it.
>> Make : JEEP
>> Model : WRANGLER
>> Year : 2006
>> Manufacturer : DAIMLERCHRYSLER CORPORATION
>> Service Bulletin Num : 1900306
>> Date of Bulletin: AUG 30, 2006
>> NHTSA Item Number: 10020334
>> Component: STEERING
>> Summary: STEERING SHIMMY. *TT

>


Mike Romain 09-19-2007 06:54 PM

Re: 06 Jeep Wrangler X - Problem with Shimmy in Steering Wheel....
 
Thanks for the followup!

That sure is strange for a new vehicle to need a damper to keep it
tracking. It must be running on the borderline for alignment to set off
the shimmy.

I have managed to keep the alignment good enough on my CJ7 for the last
ten years that I didn't even realize I don't have a functioning damper
and never had. It is an empty tube with a rod sticking out.

I just got a dual shock setup for it that I need to install, it aught to
drive wicked on the trails with a steering shock on my 33's.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

larryariz wrote:
> I took my Jeep to the dealer today, and they replaced the steering
> dampner/linkage at no charge. It took two trips, but it looks like
> this was the problem. They did not find this problem, the first time
> around. Finally, the steering is much much better. I'll run this
> jeep on the freeway later today, to give it a good test run.
>
> All I can say...my THANKS!!!!, to this group and their suggestions.
> The "Technical Service Bulletin" made the difference. It's amazing
> what a little piece of paper can do.
>
>
> So, if you have a 06 Jeep Wrangler X,
> > > > > > get this "Technical Service Bulletin" service

> done on your vehicle.
>
> Thanks,
> : -)
> Larry
>
>
>
>
>> There is a NHTSA ODI - Technical Service Bulletin out there and I'm
>> going to follow up on it.
>> Make : JEEP
>> Model : WRANGLER
>> Year : 2006
>> Manufacturer : DAIMLERCHRYSLER CORPORATION
>> Service Bulletin Num : 1900306
>> Date of Bulletin: AUG 30, 2006
>> NHTSA Item Number: 10020334
>> Component: STEERING
>> Summary: STEERING SHIMMY. *TT

>


L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 09-19-2007 07:19 PM

Re: 06 Jeep Wrangler X - Problem with Shimmy in Steering Wheel....
 
Thanks.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"larryariz" <larryariz@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1190240724.066157.222500@y27g2000pre.googlegr oups.com...
> I took my Jeep to the dealer today, and they replaced the steering
> dampner/linkage at no charge. It took two trips, but it looks like
> this was the problem. They did not find this problem, the first time
> around. Finally, the steering is much much better. I'll run this
> jeep on the freeway later today, to give it a good test run.
>
> All I can say...my THANKS!!!!, to this group and their suggestions.
> The "Technical Service Bulletin" made the difference. It's amazing
> what a little piece of paper can do.
>
>
> So, if you have a 06 Jeep Wrangler X,
> > > > > > get this "Technical Service Bulletin" service

> done on your vehicle.
>
> Thanks,
> : -)
> Larry




--
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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 09-19-2007 07:19 PM

Re: 06 Jeep Wrangler X - Problem with Shimmy in Steering Wheel....
 
Thanks.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"larryariz" <larryariz@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1190240724.066157.222500@y27g2000pre.googlegr oups.com...
> I took my Jeep to the dealer today, and they replaced the steering
> dampner/linkage at no charge. It took two trips, but it looks like
> this was the problem. They did not find this problem, the first time
> around. Finally, the steering is much much better. I'll run this
> jeep on the freeway later today, to give it a good test run.
>
> All I can say...my THANKS!!!!, to this group and their suggestions.
> The "Technical Service Bulletin" made the difference. It's amazing
> what a little piece of paper can do.
>
>
> So, if you have a 06 Jeep Wrangler X,
> > > > > > get this "Technical Service Bulletin" service

> done on your vehicle.
>
> Thanks,
> : -)
> Larry




--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com


L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 09-19-2007 07:19 PM

Re: 06 Jeep Wrangler X - Problem with Shimmy in Steering Wheel....
 
Thanks.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"larryariz" <larryariz@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1190240724.066157.222500@y27g2000pre.googlegr oups.com...
> I took my Jeep to the dealer today, and they replaced the steering
> dampner/linkage at no charge. It took two trips, but it looks like
> this was the problem. They did not find this problem, the first time
> around. Finally, the steering is much much better. I'll run this
> jeep on the freeway later today, to give it a good test run.
>
> All I can say...my THANKS!!!!, to this group and their suggestions.
> The "Technical Service Bulletin" made the difference. It's amazing
> what a little piece of paper can do.
>
>
> So, if you have a 06 Jeep Wrangler X,
> > > > > > get this "Technical Service Bulletin" service

> done on your vehicle.
>
> Thanks,
> : -)
> Larry




--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com


L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 09-19-2007 07:19 PM

Re: 06 Jeep Wrangler X - Problem with Shimmy in Steering Wheel....
 
Thanks.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"larryariz" <larryariz@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1190240724.066157.222500@y27g2000pre.googlegr oups.com...
> I took my Jeep to the dealer today, and they replaced the steering
> dampner/linkage at no charge. It took two trips, but it looks like
> this was the problem. They did not find this problem, the first time
> around. Finally, the steering is much much better. I'll run this
> jeep on the freeway later today, to give it a good test run.
>
> All I can say...my THANKS!!!!, to this group and their suggestions.
> The "Technical Service Bulletin" made the difference. It's amazing
> what a little piece of paper can do.
>
>
> So, if you have a 06 Jeep Wrangler X,
> > > > > > get this "Technical Service Bulletin" service

> done on your vehicle.
>
> Thanks,
> : -)
> Larry




--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com


24BitŪ 09-21-2007 12:51 PM

Re: 06 Jeep Wrangler X - Problem with Shimmy in Steering Wheel....
 
On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 16:19:27 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<LWBill------@------.net> wrote:

> Thanks.
> Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>

The lord that the Psychopath Llewellyn W. (Bill) ------ III worships:

Abaddon, Accuser of our brethren, Adversary, Angel of Light,
Antichrist, Angel of the bottomless pit, Antichrist, Apollyon,
Beelzebub, Belial, Crooked serpent, Devil, Enemy,Dragon,
Father of lies, God of this World, Leviathan, Liar, Lucifer,
Lying spirit, Murderer, Old serpent, Piercing serpent, Power of
darkness,Prince of the devils, Prince of the power of the air,
Roaring lion, Prince of this world, Ruler of this world, Satan,
Serpent, Swine,Son of the Morning, Spirit who now works in
the sons of disobedience, Tempter, Unclean spirit, Wicked one.

PSYCHOPATHIC PERSONALITY

AN ENDEMIC SOCIAL DISEASE, A MASK OF SANITY

This introduction to "alien reaction machines" in human form describes
individuals with Anti-Social Personality Disorder (APD), Sociopaths,
and Psychopaths.

(In referring to these entities below, I use "that" instead of "who"
to reinforce the distinction between machine-like reactions and normal
human behavior.)

There is considerable overlap of symptoms as medical researchers have
refined the classifications. One of the links below provides detailed
distinctions among these definitions. It also includes an extensive
bibliography. In this essay, next, however, the older, generic term
"psychopath" is used.

A psychopath is a person who appears normal on the surface, until
he/she performs some outrageous criminal act. At that point it has
been customary to label the behavior as temporary "insanity", but that
is a legal term, not a medical one. The prison psychiatric hospital
environment greatly reduces the options for the new patient to make
the kind of independent decisions that caused the original trouble in
open society. In this controlled environment he/she appears normal,
shows no overt signs of psychosis, passes all probing tests with
flying colors, and is discharged as "cured". On the street again, more
crimes are committed, and the cycle repeats. Thus, these individuals
fall through the cracks between law and medicine.

Most people, including judges and juries, are still unable to make the
distinction that not all prison inmates are psychopaths and not all
antisocial individuals are convicted criminals. The links below can be
confusing unless one is aware that the label "psychopathic
personality" was the original descriptive term for today's aggressive
"antisocial personality". The new euphemism is an obfuscation of an
unpleasant truth about people we are forced to deal with on a daily
basis. It is difficult for all of us, especially when associating with
disruptive school children, whose unearned "self esteem" must be
protected at all costs. In the literature one can expect to see both
the new and the old terms, without much distinction between them.

Western industrial civilization has developed a complex set of rules
of behavior for its citizens. These rules have evolved from the need
for cooperative organization in order to produce the goods and
services actually needed by society for minimum survival as a group,
and also to produce the intangible benefits that make that survival
tolerable for the individual. It makes most sense to reserve the
greatest rewards to those individuals who produce the most goods and
services of the highest quality. Most people understand they need
specialized training for any role above some minimum level, and they
must compete for that training, and later compete on the job itself.
They understand that the need for group survival dictates the rules of
the game, and they must not disrupt the group process by
uncooperative, dishonest, unethical, or violent behavior, or flagrant
violation of the rules.

Psychopaths believe they are "entitled" to the lifestyle benefits of
Western Civilization that most people only hope for as a potential
reward for outstanding job performance, organizational loyalty, and
smooth cooperation with other members of a team. Psychopaths can't or
won't work at the high performance level that might logically provide
upscale benefits. At a lower level where they might be more qualified,
they feel that any menial, boring, dirty, or disgusting WORK is
"beneath" them. Thus, whether at a high level or low level, any
meaningful, honest "work" is a dirty word to a psychopath.

With extraordinary assistance from motivated parents, some more
intelligent, but still antisocial people can and do gravitate to
higher-paid management, politics, or the professions, where power and
prestige can be significant ego enhancers. However, they are always
"close to the edge" emotionally, and are likely to abuse ---, drugs,
and alcohol. Also, they may tend to "seek out" excuses to deliberately
over-indulge, in order to remove temporarily the stifling "mask of
sanity" that never quite fits. Then, when "under the influence" they
are more likely to exhibit aggressive, violent, and/or bizarre
behavior in inappropriate public places. This odd behavior is the key
classic sign of acute dysfunction. Some reference books provide
fascinating case histories describing typical incidents.

When one realizes that the antisocial syndrome is pervasive in today's
society, what protection is available to the average adult citizen?
How can one know the alien body snatcher before any actual overt
criminal act? There are two simple test tools available to any
perceptive, educated adult: The tools are contrived casual
conversation and unobtrusive observation. With these tools one can
make a simple first screening test to possibly rule out psychopathic
personality in public officials or others:

The psychopath is a dangerously clever "alien reaction machine" that
has practiced giving all the correct answers. However, much of that
verbal practice will have taken place in institutions or in
dysfunctional families in lower-class neighborhoods. When those same
answers are given in upscale surroundings, they come out as contrived
falsehoods.

Another clue is that the alien machine will not take responsibility,
but will tend to "blame others" for misfortunes with drugs, sexual
partners, bosses, co- workers, authorities, or whatever. Also, the
full-blown psychopath is NEVER altruistic or ethical (except by
accident), but may be shrewd enough to pretend altruism as sham
behavior (to attract votes). By accepting a psychopath's statements at
face value, without cross- checking public records or other sources, a
careless or inattentive interviewer can fail to pick up on the
frequent lies. For example, to trip up corrupt politicians or
self-described "experts", sometimes it is only necessary to compare
two different answers to the same or similar questions repeated on two
or more different occasions, without involving external sources at
all. Any pattern of lies will stand out as outside the norm of ethical
conduct. By itself, this discrepancy is insufficient to classify the
individual as antisocial, but it is an indication that other tests
should be made.
* * * * *

24BitŪ 09-21-2007 12:51 PM

Re: 06 Jeep Wrangler X - Problem with Shimmy in Steering Wheel....
 
On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 16:19:27 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<LWBill------@------.net> wrote:

> Thanks.
> Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>

The lord that the Psychopath Llewellyn W. (Bill) ------ III worships:

Abaddon, Accuser of our brethren, Adversary, Angel of Light,
Antichrist, Angel of the bottomless pit, Antichrist, Apollyon,
Beelzebub, Belial, Crooked serpent, Devil, Enemy,Dragon,
Father of lies, God of this World, Leviathan, Liar, Lucifer,
Lying spirit, Murderer, Old serpent, Piercing serpent, Power of
darkness,Prince of the devils, Prince of the power of the air,
Roaring lion, Prince of this world, Ruler of this world, Satan,
Serpent, Swine,Son of the Morning, Spirit who now works in
the sons of disobedience, Tempter, Unclean spirit, Wicked one.

PSYCHOPATHIC PERSONALITY

AN ENDEMIC SOCIAL DISEASE, A MASK OF SANITY

This introduction to "alien reaction machines" in human form describes
individuals with Anti-Social Personality Disorder (APD), Sociopaths,
and Psychopaths.

(In referring to these entities below, I use "that" instead of "who"
to reinforce the distinction between machine-like reactions and normal
human behavior.)

There is considerable overlap of symptoms as medical researchers have
refined the classifications. One of the links below provides detailed
distinctions among these definitions. It also includes an extensive
bibliography. In this essay, next, however, the older, generic term
"psychopath" is used.

A psychopath is a person who appears normal on the surface, until
he/she performs some outrageous criminal act. At that point it has
been customary to label the behavior as temporary "insanity", but that
is a legal term, not a medical one. The prison psychiatric hospital
environment greatly reduces the options for the new patient to make
the kind of independent decisions that caused the original trouble in
open society. In this controlled environment he/she appears normal,
shows no overt signs of psychosis, passes all probing tests with
flying colors, and is discharged as "cured". On the street again, more
crimes are committed, and the cycle repeats. Thus, these individuals
fall through the cracks between law and medicine.

Most people, including judges and juries, are still unable to make the
distinction that not all prison inmates are psychopaths and not all
antisocial individuals are convicted criminals. The links below can be
confusing unless one is aware that the label "psychopathic
personality" was the original descriptive term for today's aggressive
"antisocial personality". The new euphemism is an obfuscation of an
unpleasant truth about people we are forced to deal with on a daily
basis. It is difficult for all of us, especially when associating with
disruptive school children, whose unearned "self esteem" must be
protected at all costs. In the literature one can expect to see both
the new and the old terms, without much distinction between them.

Western industrial civilization has developed a complex set of rules
of behavior for its citizens. These rules have evolved from the need
for cooperative organization in order to produce the goods and
services actually needed by society for minimum survival as a group,
and also to produce the intangible benefits that make that survival
tolerable for the individual. It makes most sense to reserve the
greatest rewards to those individuals who produce the most goods and
services of the highest quality. Most people understand they need
specialized training for any role above some minimum level, and they
must compete for that training, and later compete on the job itself.
They understand that the need for group survival dictates the rules of
the game, and they must not disrupt the group process by
uncooperative, dishonest, unethical, or violent behavior, or flagrant
violation of the rules.

Psychopaths believe they are "entitled" to the lifestyle benefits of
Western Civilization that most people only hope for as a potential
reward for outstanding job performance, organizational loyalty, and
smooth cooperation with other members of a team. Psychopaths can't or
won't work at the high performance level that might logically provide
upscale benefits. At a lower level where they might be more qualified,
they feel that any menial, boring, dirty, or disgusting WORK is
"beneath" them. Thus, whether at a high level or low level, any
meaningful, honest "work" is a dirty word to a psychopath.

With extraordinary assistance from motivated parents, some more
intelligent, but still antisocial people can and do gravitate to
higher-paid management, politics, or the professions, where power and
prestige can be significant ego enhancers. However, they are always
"close to the edge" emotionally, and are likely to abuse ---, drugs,
and alcohol. Also, they may tend to "seek out" excuses to deliberately
over-indulge, in order to remove temporarily the stifling "mask of
sanity" that never quite fits. Then, when "under the influence" they
are more likely to exhibit aggressive, violent, and/or bizarre
behavior in inappropriate public places. This odd behavior is the key
classic sign of acute dysfunction. Some reference books provide
fascinating case histories describing typical incidents.

When one realizes that the antisocial syndrome is pervasive in today's
society, what protection is available to the average adult citizen?
How can one know the alien body snatcher before any actual overt
criminal act? There are two simple test tools available to any
perceptive, educated adult: The tools are contrived casual
conversation and unobtrusive observation. With these tools one can
make a simple first screening test to possibly rule out psychopathic
personality in public officials or others:

The psychopath is a dangerously clever "alien reaction machine" that
has practiced giving all the correct answers. However, much of that
verbal practice will have taken place in institutions or in
dysfunctional families in lower-class neighborhoods. When those same
answers are given in upscale surroundings, they come out as contrived
falsehoods.

Another clue is that the alien machine will not take responsibility,
but will tend to "blame others" for misfortunes with drugs, sexual
partners, bosses, co- workers, authorities, or whatever. Also, the
full-blown psychopath is NEVER altruistic or ethical (except by
accident), but may be shrewd enough to pretend altruism as sham
behavior (to attract votes). By accepting a psychopath's statements at
face value, without cross- checking public records or other sources, a
careless or inattentive interviewer can fail to pick up on the
frequent lies. For example, to trip up corrupt politicians or
self-described "experts", sometimes it is only necessary to compare
two different answers to the same or similar questions repeated on two
or more different occasions, without involving external sources at
all. Any pattern of lies will stand out as outside the norm of ethical
conduct. By itself, this discrepancy is insufficient to classify the
individual as antisocial, but it is an indication that other tests
should be made.
* * * * *

24BitŪ 09-21-2007 12:51 PM

Re: 06 Jeep Wrangler X - Problem with Shimmy in Steering Wheel....
 
On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 16:19:27 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<LWBill------@------.net> wrote:

> Thanks.
> Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>

The lord that the Psychopath Llewellyn W. (Bill) ------ III worships:

Abaddon, Accuser of our brethren, Adversary, Angel of Light,
Antichrist, Angel of the bottomless pit, Antichrist, Apollyon,
Beelzebub, Belial, Crooked serpent, Devil, Enemy,Dragon,
Father of lies, God of this World, Leviathan, Liar, Lucifer,
Lying spirit, Murderer, Old serpent, Piercing serpent, Power of
darkness,Prince of the devils, Prince of the power of the air,
Roaring lion, Prince of this world, Ruler of this world, Satan,
Serpent, Swine,Son of the Morning, Spirit who now works in
the sons of disobedience, Tempter, Unclean spirit, Wicked one.

PSYCHOPATHIC PERSONALITY

AN ENDEMIC SOCIAL DISEASE, A MASK OF SANITY

This introduction to "alien reaction machines" in human form describes
individuals with Anti-Social Personality Disorder (APD), Sociopaths,
and Psychopaths.

(In referring to these entities below, I use "that" instead of "who"
to reinforce the distinction between machine-like reactions and normal
human behavior.)

There is considerable overlap of symptoms as medical researchers have
refined the classifications. One of the links below provides detailed
distinctions among these definitions. It also includes an extensive
bibliography. In this essay, next, however, the older, generic term
"psychopath" is used.

A psychopath is a person who appears normal on the surface, until
he/she performs some outrageous criminal act. At that point it has
been customary to label the behavior as temporary "insanity", but that
is a legal term, not a medical one. The prison psychiatric hospital
environment greatly reduces the options for the new patient to make
the kind of independent decisions that caused the original trouble in
open society. In this controlled environment he/she appears normal,
shows no overt signs of psychosis, passes all probing tests with
flying colors, and is discharged as "cured". On the street again, more
crimes are committed, and the cycle repeats. Thus, these individuals
fall through the cracks between law and medicine.

Most people, including judges and juries, are still unable to make the
distinction that not all prison inmates are psychopaths and not all
antisocial individuals are convicted criminals. The links below can be
confusing unless one is aware that the label "psychopathic
personality" was the original descriptive term for today's aggressive
"antisocial personality". The new euphemism is an obfuscation of an
unpleasant truth about people we are forced to deal with on a daily
basis. It is difficult for all of us, especially when associating with
disruptive school children, whose unearned "self esteem" must be
protected at all costs. In the literature one can expect to see both
the new and the old terms, without much distinction between them.

Western industrial civilization has developed a complex set of rules
of behavior for its citizens. These rules have evolved from the need
for cooperative organization in order to produce the goods and
services actually needed by society for minimum survival as a group,
and also to produce the intangible benefits that make that survival
tolerable for the individual. It makes most sense to reserve the
greatest rewards to those individuals who produce the most goods and
services of the highest quality. Most people understand they need
specialized training for any role above some minimum level, and they
must compete for that training, and later compete on the job itself.
They understand that the need for group survival dictates the rules of
the game, and they must not disrupt the group process by
uncooperative, dishonest, unethical, or violent behavior, or flagrant
violation of the rules.

Psychopaths believe they are "entitled" to the lifestyle benefits of
Western Civilization that most people only hope for as a potential
reward for outstanding job performance, organizational loyalty, and
smooth cooperation with other members of a team. Psychopaths can't or
won't work at the high performance level that might logically provide
upscale benefits. At a lower level where they might be more qualified,
they feel that any menial, boring, dirty, or disgusting WORK is
"beneath" them. Thus, whether at a high level or low level, any
meaningful, honest "work" is a dirty word to a psychopath.

With extraordinary assistance from motivated parents, some more
intelligent, but still antisocial people can and do gravitate to
higher-paid management, politics, or the professions, where power and
prestige can be significant ego enhancers. However, they are always
"close to the edge" emotionally, and are likely to abuse ---, drugs,
and alcohol. Also, they may tend to "seek out" excuses to deliberately
over-indulge, in order to remove temporarily the stifling "mask of
sanity" that never quite fits. Then, when "under the influence" they
are more likely to exhibit aggressive, violent, and/or bizarre
behavior in inappropriate public places. This odd behavior is the key
classic sign of acute dysfunction. Some reference books provide
fascinating case histories describing typical incidents.

When one realizes that the antisocial syndrome is pervasive in today's
society, what protection is available to the average adult citizen?
How can one know the alien body snatcher before any actual overt
criminal act? There are two simple test tools available to any
perceptive, educated adult: The tools are contrived casual
conversation and unobtrusive observation. With these tools one can
make a simple first screening test to possibly rule out psychopathic
personality in public officials or others:

The psychopath is a dangerously clever "alien reaction machine" that
has practiced giving all the correct answers. However, much of that
verbal practice will have taken place in institutions or in
dysfunctional families in lower-class neighborhoods. When those same
answers are given in upscale surroundings, they come out as contrived
falsehoods.

Another clue is that the alien machine will not take responsibility,
but will tend to "blame others" for misfortunes with drugs, sexual
partners, bosses, co- workers, authorities, or whatever. Also, the
full-blown psychopath is NEVER altruistic or ethical (except by
accident), but may be shrewd enough to pretend altruism as sham
behavior (to attract votes). By accepting a psychopath's statements at
face value, without cross- checking public records or other sources, a
careless or inattentive interviewer can fail to pick up on the
frequent lies. For example, to trip up corrupt politicians or
self-described "experts", sometimes it is only necessary to compare
two different answers to the same or similar questions repeated on two
or more different occasions, without involving external sources at
all. Any pattern of lies will stand out as outside the norm of ethical
conduct. By itself, this discrepancy is insufficient to classify the
individual as antisocial, but it is an indication that other tests
should be made.
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