05 Jeep grand
04-05-2005, 09:26 PM
#71
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Re: 05 Jeep grand
you noticed the electronic throttle lag
there is no throttle cables anymore and the lag is the time it takes to react
to the foot
you will also notice now that i told ya, the throttle stays on after matting it
and take your foot off the pedal for a split split second
it's all normal for this to happen even the trucks do this
the throttle has 2 electric motors that moves the throttle plates
i have been told there is 50 hose hiding there but a hipo reflash for the pcm
is not ready yet
Joe wrote:
> I have a Jeep "wk" with the hemi. I have to say it is shortening my life!
> Does anyone know what is causing the vibration/hesitation when the throttle
> is lightly applied?
> I understand I may get flamed or ridiculed, but I am going crazy. My wife's
> "WJ" and my daughter's "XJ" run better!
> Thanks Joe
there is no throttle cables anymore and the lag is the time it takes to react
to the foot
you will also notice now that i told ya, the throttle stays on after matting it
and take your foot off the pedal for a split split second
it's all normal for this to happen even the trucks do this
the throttle has 2 electric motors that moves the throttle plates
i have been told there is 50 hose hiding there but a hipo reflash for the pcm
is not ready yet
Joe wrote:
> I have a Jeep "wk" with the hemi. I have to say it is shortening my life!
> Does anyone know what is causing the vibration/hesitation when the throttle
> is lightly applied?
> I understand I may get flamed or ridiculed, but I am going crazy. My wife's
> "WJ" and my daughter's "XJ" run better!
> Thanks Joe
04-05-2005, 09:26 PM
#72
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Posts: n/a
Re: 05 Jeep grand
you noticed the electronic throttle lag
there is no throttle cables anymore and the lag is the time it takes to react
to the foot
you will also notice now that i told ya, the throttle stays on after matting it
and take your foot off the pedal for a split split second
it's all normal for this to happen even the trucks do this
the throttle has 2 electric motors that moves the throttle plates
i have been told there is 50 hose hiding there but a hipo reflash for the pcm
is not ready yet
Joe wrote:
> I have a Jeep "wk" with the hemi. I have to say it is shortening my life!
> Does anyone know what is causing the vibration/hesitation when the throttle
> is lightly applied?
> I understand I may get flamed or ridiculed, but I am going crazy. My wife's
> "WJ" and my daughter's "XJ" run better!
> Thanks Joe
there is no throttle cables anymore and the lag is the time it takes to react
to the foot
you will also notice now that i told ya, the throttle stays on after matting it
and take your foot off the pedal for a split split second
it's all normal for this to happen even the trucks do this
the throttle has 2 electric motors that moves the throttle plates
i have been told there is 50 hose hiding there but a hipo reflash for the pcm
is not ready yet
Joe wrote:
> I have a Jeep "wk" with the hemi. I have to say it is shortening my life!
> Does anyone know what is causing the vibration/hesitation when the throttle
> is lightly applied?
> I understand I may get flamed or ridiculed, but I am going crazy. My wife's
> "WJ" and my daughter's "XJ" run better!
> Thanks Joe
04-05-2005, 09:26 PM
#73
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Posts: n/a
Re: 05 Jeep grand
you noticed the electronic throttle lag
there is no throttle cables anymore and the lag is the time it takes to react
to the foot
you will also notice now that i told ya, the throttle stays on after matting it
and take your foot off the pedal for a split split second
it's all normal for this to happen even the trucks do this
the throttle has 2 electric motors that moves the throttle plates
i have been told there is 50 hose hiding there but a hipo reflash for the pcm
is not ready yet
Joe wrote:
> I have a Jeep "wk" with the hemi. I have to say it is shortening my life!
> Does anyone know what is causing the vibration/hesitation when the throttle
> is lightly applied?
> I understand I may get flamed or ridiculed, but I am going crazy. My wife's
> "WJ" and my daughter's "XJ" run better!
> Thanks Joe
there is no throttle cables anymore and the lag is the time it takes to react
to the foot
you will also notice now that i told ya, the throttle stays on after matting it
and take your foot off the pedal for a split split second
it's all normal for this to happen even the trucks do this
the throttle has 2 electric motors that moves the throttle plates
i have been told there is 50 hose hiding there but a hipo reflash for the pcm
is not ready yet
Joe wrote:
> I have a Jeep "wk" with the hemi. I have to say it is shortening my life!
> Does anyone know what is causing the vibration/hesitation when the throttle
> is lightly applied?
> I understand I may get flamed or ridiculed, but I am going crazy. My wife's
> "WJ" and my daughter's "XJ" run better!
> Thanks Joe
04-05-2005, 09:26 PM
#74
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Posts: n/a
Re: 05 Jeep grand
you noticed the electronic throttle lag
there is no throttle cables anymore and the lag is the time it takes to react
to the foot
you will also notice now that i told ya, the throttle stays on after matting it
and take your foot off the pedal for a split split second
it's all normal for this to happen even the trucks do this
the throttle has 2 electric motors that moves the throttle plates
i have been told there is 50 hose hiding there but a hipo reflash for the pcm
is not ready yet
Joe wrote:
> I have a Jeep "wk" with the hemi. I have to say it is shortening my life!
> Does anyone know what is causing the vibration/hesitation when the throttle
> is lightly applied?
> I understand I may get flamed or ridiculed, but I am going crazy. My wife's
> "WJ" and my daughter's "XJ" run better!
> Thanks Joe
there is no throttle cables anymore and the lag is the time it takes to react
to the foot
you will also notice now that i told ya, the throttle stays on after matting it
and take your foot off the pedal for a split split second
it's all normal for this to happen even the trucks do this
the throttle has 2 electric motors that moves the throttle plates
i have been told there is 50 hose hiding there but a hipo reflash for the pcm
is not ready yet
Joe wrote:
> I have a Jeep "wk" with the hemi. I have to say it is shortening my life!
> Does anyone know what is causing the vibration/hesitation when the throttle
> is lightly applied?
> I understand I may get flamed or ridiculed, but I am going crazy. My wife's
> "WJ" and my daughter's "XJ" run better!
> Thanks Joe
04-05-2005, 09:28 PM
#75
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Re: 05 Jeep grand
gee thats why a new biggar cubic inch motor is on the way a 6.1
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> Hi Dave,
> That's a SMOG motor, and there's a zillion ways they could mess
> with the computer to make or take away horsepower, as limited as it is,
> it's the fuel economy Dialer's after to justify this Hemi with the
> Environmental Protection Agency, and to do that they must take away
> cubic inches. My thunderbird has an OHC V8, it's not worth thinking
> about. And note you were looking at 375 HP, Geez a stock '66 327" Vette
> has that! And of course it's push rod, for brute horsepower like the new
> Hemi.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > This is what I was thinking of:
> >
> > "That big news was, of course, the 1990 Corvette ZR-1 coupe (the ZR-1 was
> > never available as a convertible). Nicknamed "King of the Hill," the ZR-1
> > was built around the Lotus-designed, Mercury Marine-built, all-aluminum,
> > 5.7-liter, DOHC, 32-valve LT5 V8 making an astounding 375 horsepower. That
> > is, it made 375 horsepower when an in-dash key was set in "full-power" mode
> > and not in the "valet" mode when it was limited to just 250 horsepower."
> >
> > http://www.edmunds.com/reviews/gener...4/article.html
> >
> > do you know how they did it ?
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> Hi Dave,
> That's a SMOG motor, and there's a zillion ways they could mess
> with the computer to make or take away horsepower, as limited as it is,
> it's the fuel economy Dialer's after to justify this Hemi with the
> Environmental Protection Agency, and to do that they must take away
> cubic inches. My thunderbird has an OHC V8, it's not worth thinking
> about. And note you were looking at 375 HP, Geez a stock '66 327" Vette
> has that! And of course it's push rod, for brute horsepower like the new
> Hemi.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > This is what I was thinking of:
> >
> > "That big news was, of course, the 1990 Corvette ZR-1 coupe (the ZR-1 was
> > never available as a convertible). Nicknamed "King of the Hill," the ZR-1
> > was built around the Lotus-designed, Mercury Marine-built, all-aluminum,
> > 5.7-liter, DOHC, 32-valve LT5 V8 making an astounding 375 horsepower. That
> > is, it made 375 horsepower when an in-dash key was set in "full-power" mode
> > and not in the "valet" mode when it was limited to just 250 horsepower."
> >
> > http://www.edmunds.com/reviews/gener...4/article.html
> >
> > do you know how they did it ?
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
04-05-2005, 09:28 PM
#76
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Posts: n/a
Re: 05 Jeep grand
gee thats why a new biggar cubic inch motor is on the way a 6.1
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> Hi Dave,
> That's a SMOG motor, and there's a zillion ways they could mess
> with the computer to make or take away horsepower, as limited as it is,
> it's the fuel economy Dialer's after to justify this Hemi with the
> Environmental Protection Agency, and to do that they must take away
> cubic inches. My thunderbird has an OHC V8, it's not worth thinking
> about. And note you were looking at 375 HP, Geez a stock '66 327" Vette
> has that! And of course it's push rod, for brute horsepower like the new
> Hemi.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > This is what I was thinking of:
> >
> > "That big news was, of course, the 1990 Corvette ZR-1 coupe (the ZR-1 was
> > never available as a convertible). Nicknamed "King of the Hill," the ZR-1
> > was built around the Lotus-designed, Mercury Marine-built, all-aluminum,
> > 5.7-liter, DOHC, 32-valve LT5 V8 making an astounding 375 horsepower. That
> > is, it made 375 horsepower when an in-dash key was set in "full-power" mode
> > and not in the "valet" mode when it was limited to just 250 horsepower."
> >
> > http://www.edmunds.com/reviews/gener...4/article.html
> >
> > do you know how they did it ?
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> Hi Dave,
> That's a SMOG motor, and there's a zillion ways they could mess
> with the computer to make or take away horsepower, as limited as it is,
> it's the fuel economy Dialer's after to justify this Hemi with the
> Environmental Protection Agency, and to do that they must take away
> cubic inches. My thunderbird has an OHC V8, it's not worth thinking
> about. And note you were looking at 375 HP, Geez a stock '66 327" Vette
> has that! And of course it's push rod, for brute horsepower like the new
> Hemi.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > This is what I was thinking of:
> >
> > "That big news was, of course, the 1990 Corvette ZR-1 coupe (the ZR-1 was
> > never available as a convertible). Nicknamed "King of the Hill," the ZR-1
> > was built around the Lotus-designed, Mercury Marine-built, all-aluminum,
> > 5.7-liter, DOHC, 32-valve LT5 V8 making an astounding 375 horsepower. That
> > is, it made 375 horsepower when an in-dash key was set in "full-power" mode
> > and not in the "valet" mode when it was limited to just 250 horsepower."
> >
> > http://www.edmunds.com/reviews/gener...4/article.html
> >
> > do you know how they did it ?
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
04-05-2005, 09:28 PM
#77
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Posts: n/a
Re: 05 Jeep grand
gee thats why a new biggar cubic inch motor is on the way a 6.1
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> Hi Dave,
> That's a SMOG motor, and there's a zillion ways they could mess
> with the computer to make or take away horsepower, as limited as it is,
> it's the fuel economy Dialer's after to justify this Hemi with the
> Environmental Protection Agency, and to do that they must take away
> cubic inches. My thunderbird has an OHC V8, it's not worth thinking
> about. And note you were looking at 375 HP, Geez a stock '66 327" Vette
> has that! And of course it's push rod, for brute horsepower like the new
> Hemi.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > This is what I was thinking of:
> >
> > "That big news was, of course, the 1990 Corvette ZR-1 coupe (the ZR-1 was
> > never available as a convertible). Nicknamed "King of the Hill," the ZR-1
> > was built around the Lotus-designed, Mercury Marine-built, all-aluminum,
> > 5.7-liter, DOHC, 32-valve LT5 V8 making an astounding 375 horsepower. That
> > is, it made 375 horsepower when an in-dash key was set in "full-power" mode
> > and not in the "valet" mode when it was limited to just 250 horsepower."
> >
> > http://www.edmunds.com/reviews/gener...4/article.html
> >
> > do you know how they did it ?
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> Hi Dave,
> That's a SMOG motor, and there's a zillion ways they could mess
> with the computer to make or take away horsepower, as limited as it is,
> it's the fuel economy Dialer's after to justify this Hemi with the
> Environmental Protection Agency, and to do that they must take away
> cubic inches. My thunderbird has an OHC V8, it's not worth thinking
> about. And note you were looking at 375 HP, Geez a stock '66 327" Vette
> has that! And of course it's push rod, for brute horsepower like the new
> Hemi.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > This is what I was thinking of:
> >
> > "That big news was, of course, the 1990 Corvette ZR-1 coupe (the ZR-1 was
> > never available as a convertible). Nicknamed "King of the Hill," the ZR-1
> > was built around the Lotus-designed, Mercury Marine-built, all-aluminum,
> > 5.7-liter, DOHC, 32-valve LT5 V8 making an astounding 375 horsepower. That
> > is, it made 375 horsepower when an in-dash key was set in "full-power" mode
> > and not in the "valet" mode when it was limited to just 250 horsepower."
> >
> > http://www.edmunds.com/reviews/gener...4/article.html
> >
> > do you know how they did it ?
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
04-05-2005, 09:28 PM
#78
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Re: 05 Jeep grand
gee thats why a new biggar cubic inch motor is on the way a 6.1
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> Hi Dave,
> That's a SMOG motor, and there's a zillion ways they could mess
> with the computer to make or take away horsepower, as limited as it is,
> it's the fuel economy Dialer's after to justify this Hemi with the
> Environmental Protection Agency, and to do that they must take away
> cubic inches. My thunderbird has an OHC V8, it's not worth thinking
> about. And note you were looking at 375 HP, Geez a stock '66 327" Vette
> has that! And of course it's push rod, for brute horsepower like the new
> Hemi.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > This is what I was thinking of:
> >
> > "That big news was, of course, the 1990 Corvette ZR-1 coupe (the ZR-1 was
> > never available as a convertible). Nicknamed "King of the Hill," the ZR-1
> > was built around the Lotus-designed, Mercury Marine-built, all-aluminum,
> > 5.7-liter, DOHC, 32-valve LT5 V8 making an astounding 375 horsepower. That
> > is, it made 375 horsepower when an in-dash key was set in "full-power" mode
> > and not in the "valet" mode when it was limited to just 250 horsepower."
> >
> > http://www.edmunds.com/reviews/gener...4/article.html
> >
> > do you know how they did it ?
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> Hi Dave,
> That's a SMOG motor, and there's a zillion ways they could mess
> with the computer to make or take away horsepower, as limited as it is,
> it's the fuel economy Dialer's after to justify this Hemi with the
> Environmental Protection Agency, and to do that they must take away
> cubic inches. My thunderbird has an OHC V8, it's not worth thinking
> about. And note you were looking at 375 HP, Geez a stock '66 327" Vette
> has that! And of course it's push rod, for brute horsepower like the new
> Hemi.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > This is what I was thinking of:
> >
> > "That big news was, of course, the 1990 Corvette ZR-1 coupe (the ZR-1 was
> > never available as a convertible). Nicknamed "King of the Hill," the ZR-1
> > was built around the Lotus-designed, Mercury Marine-built, all-aluminum,
> > 5.7-liter, DOHC, 32-valve LT5 V8 making an astounding 375 horsepower. That
> > is, it made 375 horsepower when an in-dash key was set in "full-power" mode
> > and not in the "valet" mode when it was limited to just 250 horsepower."
> >
> > http://www.edmunds.com/reviews/gener...4/article.html
> >
> > do you know how they did it ?
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
04-05-2005, 10:45 PM
#79
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Re: 05 Jeep grand
As far as I'm concerned they're not serious until they bring out
the seven liter again.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
mic canic wrote:
>
> gee thats why a new biggar cubic inch motor is on the way a 6.1
the seven liter again.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
mic canic wrote:
>
> gee thats why a new biggar cubic inch motor is on the way a 6.1
04-05-2005, 10:45 PM
#80
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Re: 05 Jeep grand
As far as I'm concerned they're not serious until they bring out
the seven liter again.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
mic canic wrote:
>
> gee thats why a new biggar cubic inch motor is on the way a 6.1
the seven liter again.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
mic canic wrote:
>
> gee thats why a new biggar cubic inch motor is on the way a 6.1