05 Jeep grand
 

I have a Jeep "wk" with the hemi. I have to say it is shortening my life!
Does anyone know what is causing the vibration/hesitation when the throttle
is lightly applied?
I understand I may get flamed or ridiculed, but I am going crazy. My wife's
"WJ" and my daughter's "XJ" run better!
Thanks Joe

Re: 05 Jeep grand
 

Is that the one where you buy a V8 that decides you really wanted to buy a
V6 or a V4 ? If so, I'd investigate the cylinders shutting off for the
vibration.


Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"Joe" <srjrkr@comc##t.net> wrote in message
news:V4ednVD_XNVqctPfRVn-vA@comcast.com...
> I have a Jeep "wk" with the hemi. I have to say it is shortening my life!
> Does anyone know what is causing the vibration/hesitation when the
throttle
> is lightly applied?
> I understand I may get flamed or ridiculed, but I am going crazy. My
wife's
> "WJ" and my daughter's "XJ" run better!
> Thanks Joe
>
>

Re: 05 Jeep grand
 

Is that the one where you buy a V8 that decides you really wanted to buy a
V6 or a V4 ? If so, I'd investigate the cylinders shutting off for the
vibration.


Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"Joe" <srjrkr@comc##t.net> wrote in message
news:V4ednVD_XNVqctPfRVn-vA@comcast.com...
> I have a Jeep "wk" with the hemi. I have to say it is shortening my life!
> Does anyone know what is causing the vibration/hesitation when the
throttle
> is lightly applied?
> I understand I may get flamed or ridiculed, but I am going crazy. My
wife's
> "WJ" and my daughter's "XJ" run better!
> Thanks Joe
>
>

Re: 05 Jeep grand
 

Is that the one where you buy a V8 that decides you really wanted to buy a
V6 or a V4 ? If so, I'd investigate the cylinders shutting off for the
vibration.


Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"Joe" <srjrkr@comc##t.net> wrote in message
news:V4ednVD_XNVqctPfRVn-vA@comcast.com...
> I have a Jeep "wk" with the hemi. I have to say it is shortening my life!
> Does anyone know what is causing the vibration/hesitation when the
throttle
> is lightly applied?
> I understand I may get flamed or ridiculed, but I am going crazy. My
wife's
> "WJ" and my daughter's "XJ" run better!
> Thanks Joe
>
>

Re: 05 Jeep grand
 

The collapsing the valves to, two and four cylinders didn't work on
the '79 Cadillac either.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Joe wrote:
>
> I have a Jeep "wk" with the hemi. I have to say it is shortening my life!
> Does anyone know what is causing the vibration/hesitation when the throttle
> is lightly applied?
> I understand I may get flamed or ridiculed, but I am going crazy. My wife's
> "WJ" and my daughter's "XJ" run better!
> Thanks Joe

Re: 05 Jeep grand
 

The collapsing the valves to, two and four cylinders didn't work on
the '79 Cadillac either.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Joe wrote:
>
> I have a Jeep "wk" with the hemi. I have to say it is shortening my life!
> Does anyone know what is causing the vibration/hesitation when the throttle
> is lightly applied?
> I understand I may get flamed or ridiculed, but I am going crazy. My wife's
> "WJ" and my daughter's "XJ" run better!
> Thanks Joe

Re: 05 Jeep grand
 

The collapsing the valves to, two and four cylinders didn't work on
the '79 Cadillac either.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Joe wrote:
>
> I have a Jeep "wk" with the hemi. I have to say it is shortening my life!
> Does anyone know what is causing the vibration/hesitation when the throttle
> is lightly applied?
> I understand I may get flamed or ridiculed, but I am going crazy. My wife's
> "WJ" and my daughter's "XJ" run better!
> Thanks Joe

Re: 05 Jeep grand
 

Didn't Chevrolet try that in the mid 80s as well ?

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:424F0087.52F8455D@cox.net...
> The collapsing the valves to, two and four cylinders didn't work on
> the '79 Cadillac either.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Joe wrote:
> >
> > I have a Jeep "wk" with the hemi. I have to say it is shortening my
life!
> > Does anyone know what is causing the vibration/hesitation when the
throttle
> > is lightly applied?
> > I understand I may get flamed or ridiculed, but I am going crazy. My
wife's
> > "WJ" and my daughter's "XJ" run better!
> > Thanks Joe

Re: 05 Jeep grand
 

Didn't Chevrolet try that in the mid 80s as well ?

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:424F0087.52F8455D@cox.net...
> The collapsing the valves to, two and four cylinders didn't work on
> the '79 Cadillac either.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Joe wrote:
> >
> > I have a Jeep "wk" with the hemi. I have to say it is shortening my
life!
> > Does anyone know what is causing the vibration/hesitation when the
throttle
> > is lightly applied?
> > I understand I may get flamed or ridiculed, but I am going crazy. My
wife's
> > "WJ" and my daughter's "XJ" run better!
> > Thanks Joe

Re: 05 Jeep grand
 

Didn't Chevrolet try that in the mid 80s as well ?

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:424F0087.52F8455D@cox.net...
> The collapsing the valves to, two and four cylinders didn't work on
> the '79 Cadillac either.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Joe wrote:
> >
> > I have a Jeep "wk" with the hemi. I have to say it is shortening my
life!
> > Does anyone know what is causing the vibration/hesitation when the
throttle
> > is lightly applied?
> > I understand I may get flamed or ridiculed, but I am going crazy. My
wife's
> > "WJ" and my daughter's "XJ" run better!
> > Thanks Joe

Re: 05 Jeep grand
 

Dave Milne did pass the time by typing:
> Is that the one where you buy a V8 that decides you really wanted to buy a
> V6 or a V4 ? If so, I'd investigate the cylinders shutting off for the
> vibration.

It's the way it works. Cuts back on cylenders by starving the hydraulic lifters
and cutting off the fuel. I actually was waiting on the Hemi to replace my ZJ
but after a test drive and reading the problems people are having with it I decided
to keep the ZJ.

> "Joe" wrote ...
>> I have a Jeep "wk" with the hemi. I have to say it is shortening my life!
>> Does anyone know what is causing the vibration/hesitation when the throttle
>> is lightly applied?
>> I understand I may get flamed or ridiculed, but I am going crazy. My wife's
>> "WJ" and my daughter's "XJ" run better!
>> Thanks Joe

Re: 05 Jeep grand
 

Dave Milne did pass the time by typing:
> Is that the one where you buy a V8 that decides you really wanted to buy a
> V6 or a V4 ? If so, I'd investigate the cylinders shutting off for the
> vibration.

It's the way it works. Cuts back on cylenders by starving the hydraulic lifters
and cutting off the fuel. I actually was waiting on the Hemi to replace my ZJ
but after a test drive and reading the problems people are having with it I decided
to keep the ZJ.

> "Joe" wrote ...
>> I have a Jeep "wk" with the hemi. I have to say it is shortening my life!
>> Does anyone know what is causing the vibration/hesitation when the throttle
>> is lightly applied?
>> I understand I may get flamed or ridiculed, but I am going crazy. My wife's
>> "WJ" and my daughter's "XJ" run better!
>> Thanks Joe

Re: 05 Jeep grand
 

Dave Milne did pass the time by typing:
> Is that the one where you buy a V8 that decides you really wanted to buy a
> V6 or a V4 ? If so, I'd investigate the cylinders shutting off for the
> vibration.

It's the way it works. Cuts back on cylenders by starving the hydraulic lifters
and cutting off the fuel. I actually was waiting on the Hemi to replace my ZJ
but after a test drive and reading the problems people are having with it I decided
to keep the ZJ.

> "Joe" wrote ...
>> I have a Jeep "wk" with the hemi. I have to say it is shortening my life!
>> Does anyone know what is causing the vibration/hesitation when the throttle
>> is lightly applied?
>> I understand I may get flamed or ridiculed, but I am going crazy. My wife's
>> "WJ" and my daughter's "XJ" run better!
>> Thanks Joe

Re: 05 Jeep grand
 

Honda is doing it with their new Accord Hybrid. I don't know how they
are shutting off the other three cylinders. I suspect that, knowing
Honda, it is a seamless operation. Of course the engine has to
restart every time you stop the car, but I imagine that is very smooth
as well.

----

On Sat, 02 Apr 2005 12:28:55 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@cox.net> wrote:

> The collapsing the valves to, two and four cylinders didn't work on
>the '79 Cadillac either.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>Joe wrote:
>>
>> I have a Jeep "wk" with the hemi. I have to say it is shortening my life!
>> Does anyone know what is causing the vibration/hesitation when the throttle
>> is lightly applied?
>> I understand I may get flamed or ridiculed, but I am going crazy. My wife's
>> "WJ" and my daughter's "XJ" run better!
>> Thanks Joe

Re: 05 Jeep grand
 

Honda is doing it with their new Accord Hybrid. I don't know how they
are shutting off the other three cylinders. I suspect that, knowing
Honda, it is a seamless operation. Of course the engine has to
restart every time you stop the car, but I imagine that is very smooth
as well.

----

On Sat, 02 Apr 2005 12:28:55 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@cox.net> wrote:

> The collapsing the valves to, two and four cylinders didn't work on
>the '79 Cadillac either.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>Joe wrote:
>>
>> I have a Jeep "wk" with the hemi. I have to say it is shortening my life!
>> Does anyone know what is causing the vibration/hesitation when the throttle
>> is lightly applied?
>> I understand I may get flamed or ridiculed, but I am going crazy. My wife's
>> "WJ" and my daughter's "XJ" run better!
>> Thanks Joe

Re: 05 Jeep grand
 

Honda is doing it with their new Accord Hybrid. I don't know how they
are shutting off the other three cylinders. I suspect that, knowing
Honda, it is a seamless operation. Of course the engine has to
restart every time you stop the car, but I imagine that is very smooth
as well.

----

On Sat, 02 Apr 2005 12:28:55 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@cox.net> wrote:

> The collapsing the valves to, two and four cylinders didn't work on
>the '79 Cadillac either.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>Joe wrote:
>>
>> I have a Jeep "wk" with the hemi. I have to say it is shortening my life!
>> Does anyone know what is causing the vibration/hesitation when the throttle
>> is lightly applied?
>> I understand I may get flamed or ridiculed, but I am going crazy. My wife's
>> "WJ" and my daughter's "XJ" run better!
>> Thanks Joe

Re: 05 Jeep grand
 

Nope, their only f**k up was four bolt diesel conversion. Too weak
to take the twenty to one.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Dave Milne wrote:
>
> Didn't Chevrolet try that in the mid 80s as well ?
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

Re: 05 Jeep grand
 

Nope, their only f**k up was four bolt diesel conversion. Too weak
to take the twenty to one.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Dave Milne wrote:
>
> Didn't Chevrolet try that in the mid 80s as well ?
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

Re: 05 Jeep grand
 

Nope, their only f**k up was four bolt diesel conversion. Too weak
to take the twenty to one.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Dave Milne wrote:
>
> Didn't Chevrolet try that in the mid 80s as well ?
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

Re: 05 Jeep grand
 

You should buy one. That way you don't have to use your
imagination.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

---- wrote:
>
> Honda is doing it with their new Accord Hybrid. I don't know how they
> are shutting off the other three cylinders. I suspect that, knowing
> Honda, it is a seamless operation. Of course the engine has to
> restart every time you stop the car, but I imagine that is very smooth
> as well.
>
> ----

Re: 05 Jeep grand
 

You should buy one. That way you don't have to use your
imagination.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

---- wrote:
>
> Honda is doing it with their new Accord Hybrid. I don't know how they
> are shutting off the other three cylinders. I suspect that, knowing
> Honda, it is a seamless operation. Of course the engine has to
> restart every time you stop the car, but I imagine that is very smooth
> as well.
>
> ----

Re: 05 Jeep grand
 

You should buy one. That way you don't have to use your
imagination.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

---- wrote:
>
> Honda is doing it with their new Accord Hybrid. I don't know how they
> are shutting off the other three cylinders. I suspect that, knowing
> Honda, it is a seamless operation. Of course the engine has to
> restart every time you stop the car, but I imagine that is very smooth
> as well.
>
> ----

Re: 05 Jeep grand
 

This is what I was thinking of:

"That big news was, of course, the 1990 Corvette ZR-1 coupe (the ZR-1 was
never available as a convertible). Nicknamed "King of the Hill," the ZR-1
was built around the Lotus-designed, Mercury Marine-built, all-aluminum,
5.7-liter, DOHC, 32-valve LT5 V8 making an astounding 375 horsepower. That
is, it made 375 horsepower when an in-dash key was set in "full-power" mode
and not in the "valet" mode when it was limited to just 250 horsepower."

http://www.edmunds.com/reviews/gener...4/article.html

do you know how they did it ?

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:424F07B6.293D618A@cox.net...
> Nope, their only f**k up was four bolt diesel conversion. Too weak
> to take the twenty to one.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > Didn't Chevrolet try that in the mid 80s as well ?
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

Re: 05 Jeep grand
 

This is what I was thinking of:

"That big news was, of course, the 1990 Corvette ZR-1 coupe (the ZR-1 was
never available as a convertible). Nicknamed "King of the Hill," the ZR-1
was built around the Lotus-designed, Mercury Marine-built, all-aluminum,
5.7-liter, DOHC, 32-valve LT5 V8 making an astounding 375 horsepower. That
is, it made 375 horsepower when an in-dash key was set in "full-power" mode
and not in the "valet" mode when it was limited to just 250 horsepower."

http://www.edmunds.com/reviews/gener...4/article.html

do you know how they did it ?

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:424F07B6.293D618A@cox.net...
> Nope, their only f**k up was four bolt diesel conversion. Too weak
> to take the twenty to one.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > Didn't Chevrolet try that in the mid 80s as well ?
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

Re: 05 Jeep grand
 

This is what I was thinking of:

"That big news was, of course, the 1990 Corvette ZR-1 coupe (the ZR-1 was
never available as a convertible). Nicknamed "King of the Hill," the ZR-1
was built around the Lotus-designed, Mercury Marine-built, all-aluminum,
5.7-liter, DOHC, 32-valve LT5 V8 making an astounding 375 horsepower. That
is, it made 375 horsepower when an in-dash key was set in "full-power" mode
and not in the "valet" mode when it was limited to just 250 horsepower."

http://www.edmunds.com/reviews/gener...4/article.html

do you know how they did it ?

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:424F07B6.293D618A@cox.net...
> Nope, their only f**k up was four bolt diesel conversion. Too weak
> to take the twenty to one.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > Didn't Chevrolet try that in the mid 80s as well ?
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

Re: 05 Jeep grand
 

Hi Dave,
That's a SMOG motor, and there's a zillion ways they could mess
with the computer to make or take away horsepower, as limited as it is,
it's the fuel economy Dialer's after to justify this Hemi with the
Environmental Protection Agency, and to do that they must take away
cubic inches. My thunderbird has an OHC V8, it's not worth thinking
about. And note you were looking at 375 HP, Geez a stock '66 327" Vette
has that! And of course it's push rod, for brute horsepower like the new
Hemi.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Dave Milne wrote:
>
> This is what I was thinking of:
>
> "That big news was, of course, the 1990 Corvette ZR-1 coupe (the ZR-1 was
> never available as a convertible). Nicknamed "King of the Hill," the ZR-1
> was built around the Lotus-designed, Mercury Marine-built, all-aluminum,
> 5.7-liter, DOHC, 32-valve LT5 V8 making an astounding 375 horsepower. That
> is, it made 375 horsepower when an in-dash key was set in "full-power" mode
> and not in the "valet" mode when it was limited to just 250 horsepower."
>
> http://www.edmunds.com/reviews/gener...4/article.html
>
> do you know how they did it ?
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

Re: 05 Jeep grand
 

Hi Dave,
That's a SMOG motor, and there's a zillion ways they could mess
with the computer to make or take away horsepower, as limited as it is,
it's the fuel economy Dialer's after to justify this Hemi with the
Environmental Protection Agency, and to do that they must take away
cubic inches. My thunderbird has an OHC V8, it's not worth thinking
about. And note you were looking at 375 HP, Geez a stock '66 327" Vette
has that! And of course it's push rod, for brute horsepower like the new
Hemi.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Dave Milne wrote:
>
> This is what I was thinking of:
>
> "That big news was, of course, the 1990 Corvette ZR-1 coupe (the ZR-1 was
> never available as a convertible). Nicknamed "King of the Hill," the ZR-1
> was built around the Lotus-designed, Mercury Marine-built, all-aluminum,
> 5.7-liter, DOHC, 32-valve LT5 V8 making an astounding 375 horsepower. That
> is, it made 375 horsepower when an in-dash key was set in "full-power" mode
> and not in the "valet" mode when it was limited to just 250 horsepower."
>
> http://www.edmunds.com/reviews/gener...4/article.html
>
> do you know how they did it ?
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

Re: 05 Jeep grand
 

Hi Dave,
That's a SMOG motor, and there's a zillion ways they could mess
with the computer to make or take away horsepower, as limited as it is,
it's the fuel economy Dialer's after to justify this Hemi with the
Environmental Protection Agency, and to do that they must take away
cubic inches. My thunderbird has an OHC V8, it's not worth thinking
about. And note you were looking at 375 HP, Geez a stock '66 327" Vette
has that! And of course it's push rod, for brute horsepower like the new
Hemi.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Dave Milne wrote:
>
> This is what I was thinking of:
>
> "That big news was, of course, the 1990 Corvette ZR-1 coupe (the ZR-1 was
> never available as a convertible). Nicknamed "King of the Hill," the ZR-1
> was built around the Lotus-designed, Mercury Marine-built, all-aluminum,
> 5.7-liter, DOHC, 32-valve LT5 V8 making an astounding 375 horsepower. That
> is, it made 375 horsepower when an in-dash key was set in "full-power" mode
> and not in the "valet" mode when it was limited to just 250 horsepower."
>
> http://www.edmunds.com/reviews/gener...4/article.html
>
> do you know how they did it ?
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

Re: 05 Jeep grand
 

I would if I could afford one Bill.

On Sat, 02 Apr 2005 13:03:22 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@cox.net> wrote:

> You should buy one. That way you don't have to use your
>imagination.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>---- wrote:
>>
>> Honda is doing it with their new Accord Hybrid. I don't know how they
>> are shutting off the other three cylinders. I suspect that, knowing
>> Honda, it is a seamless operation. Of course the engine has to
>> restart every time you stop the car, but I imagine that is very smooth
>> as well.
>>
>> ----

Re: 05 Jeep grand
 

I would if I could afford one Bill.

On Sat, 02 Apr 2005 13:03:22 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@cox.net> wrote:

> You should buy one. That way you don't have to use your
>imagination.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>---- wrote:
>>
>> Honda is doing it with their new Accord Hybrid. I don't know how they
>> are shutting off the other three cylinders. I suspect that, knowing
>> Honda, it is a seamless operation. Of course the engine has to
>> restart every time you stop the car, but I imagine that is very smooth
>> as well.
>>
>> ----

Re: 05 Jeep grand
 

I would if I could afford one Bill.

On Sat, 02 Apr 2005 13:03:22 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@cox.net> wrote:

> You should buy one. That way you don't have to use your
>imagination.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>---- wrote:
>>
>> Honda is doing it with their new Accord Hybrid. I don't know how they
>> are shutting off the other three cylinders. I suspect that, knowing
>> Honda, it is a seamless operation. Of course the engine has to
>> restart every time you stop the car, but I imagine that is very smooth
>> as well.
>>
>> ----

Re: 05 Jeep grand
 

And I thought the whole idea behind a hybrid was it was to be
economical, silly me.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

---- wrote:
>
> I would if I could afford one Bill.

Re: 05 Jeep grand
 

And I thought the whole idea behind a hybrid was it was to be
economical, silly me.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

---- wrote:
>
> I would if I could afford one Bill.

Re: 05 Jeep grand
 

And I thought the whole idea behind a hybrid was it was to be
economical, silly me.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

---- wrote:
>
> I would if I could afford one Bill.

Re: 05 Jeep grand
 

L.W. ("ßill") ------ III did pass the time by typing:
> And I thought the whole idea behind a hybrid was it was to be
> economical, silly me.

Nah, it's just to keep the dumb greenies happy by playing three card
monte with polution.

--
DougW

Re: 05 Jeep grand
 

L.W. ("ßill") ------ III did pass the time by typing:
> And I thought the whole idea behind a hybrid was it was to be
> economical, silly me.

Nah, it's just to keep the dumb greenies happy by playing three card
monte with polution.

--
DougW

Re: 05 Jeep grand
 

L.W. ("ßill") ------ III did pass the time by typing:
> And I thought the whole idea behind a hybrid was it was to be
> economical, silly me.

Nah, it's just to keep the dumb greenies happy by playing three card
monte with polution.

--
DougW

Re: 05 Jeep grand
 

It's actually the most expensive Honda Accord produced.

On Sat, 02 Apr 2005 17:29:09 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@cox.net> wrote:

> And I thought the whole idea behind a hybrid was it was to be
>economical, silly me.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>---- wrote:
>>
>> I would if I could afford one Bill.

Re: 05 Jeep grand
 

It's actually the most expensive Honda Accord produced.

On Sat, 02 Apr 2005 17:29:09 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@cox.net> wrote:

> And I thought the whole idea behind a hybrid was it was to be
>economical, silly me.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>---- wrote:
>>
>> I would if I could afford one Bill.

Re: 05 Jeep grand
 

It's actually the most expensive Honda Accord produced.

On Sat, 02 Apr 2005 17:29:09 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@cox.net> wrote:

> And I thought the whole idea behind a hybrid was it was to be
>economical, silly me.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>---- wrote:
>>
>> I would if I could afford one Bill.