'04 Rubicon
04-16-2007, 03:27 PM
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'04 Rubicon
A couple of weeks ago my front axle lock light started blinking, since
my Jeep is still under warranty I brought it in to get checked out.
They found that the front right tie rod bracket was bent. There is no
signs of impact, nothing else is damaged anywhere aroungd the bracket
(not even the brakelines). The dealer tells me that the entire axle
housing must be replaced, if I want to keep the warranty. However,
Jeep is not release this part until April 26, 2007. Has anyone else
seen or heard of this defect, I say defect because that is the only
logical explanation. I haven't even had time to go searious four
wheeling in it yet since I travel so much. Any ideas how this could
have happen without fourwheeling or hitting an object that leaves no
impact makes, I would appreciate it.
my Jeep is still under warranty I brought it in to get checked out.
They found that the front right tie rod bracket was bent. There is no
signs of impact, nothing else is damaged anywhere aroungd the bracket
(not even the brakelines). The dealer tells me that the entire axle
housing must be replaced, if I want to keep the warranty. However,
Jeep is not release this part until April 26, 2007. Has anyone else
seen or heard of this defect, I say defect because that is the only
logical explanation. I haven't even had time to go searious four
wheeling in it yet since I travel so much. Any ideas how this could
have happen without fourwheeling or hitting an object that leaves no
impact makes, I would appreciate it.
04-16-2007, 03:51 PM
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Re: '04 Rubicon
kglacy@earthlink.net wrote:
> A couple of weeks ago my front axle lock light started blinking, since
> my Jeep is still under warranty I brought it in to get checked out.
> They found that the front right tie rod bracket was bent. There is no
> signs of impact, nothing else is damaged anywhere aroungd the bracket
> (not even the brakelines). The dealer tells me that the entire axle
> housing must be replaced, if I want to keep the warranty. However,
> Jeep is not release this part until April 26, 2007. Has anyone else
> seen or heard of this defect, I say defect because that is the only
> logical explanation. I haven't even had time to go searious four
> wheeling in it yet since I travel so much. Any ideas how this could
> have happen without fourwheeling or hitting an object that leaves no
> impact makes, I would appreciate it.
>
OK, your description of what is bent doesn't jive with 'the entire axle
housing must be replaced'.
A tie rod goes between the two front wheels, it really has little to do
with the axle housing.....
You have an 'ear' for lack of a better word on the spindle that the tie
rod end goes into. This is also a completely different part than an
'axle housing'.
Something is wrong here....
As far as bending a tie rod goes, well I bought a brand new drag link
rod which is identical and in front of the tie rod, went camping the
next day and came out of the heavy bush onto an unseen rock that stopped
me dead. It also bent my new rod.
It takes a good impact to bend stuff up there....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
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> A couple of weeks ago my front axle lock light started blinking, since
> my Jeep is still under warranty I brought it in to get checked out.
> They found that the front right tie rod bracket was bent. There is no
> signs of impact, nothing else is damaged anywhere aroungd the bracket
> (not even the brakelines). The dealer tells me that the entire axle
> housing must be replaced, if I want to keep the warranty. However,
> Jeep is not release this part until April 26, 2007. Has anyone else
> seen or heard of this defect, I say defect because that is the only
> logical explanation. I haven't even had time to go searious four
> wheeling in it yet since I travel so much. Any ideas how this could
> have happen without fourwheeling or hitting an object that leaves no
> impact makes, I would appreciate it.
>
OK, your description of what is bent doesn't jive with 'the entire axle
housing must be replaced'.
A tie rod goes between the two front wheels, it really has little to do
with the axle housing.....
You have an 'ear' for lack of a better word on the spindle that the tie
rod end goes into. This is also a completely different part than an
'axle housing'.
Something is wrong here....
As far as bending a tie rod goes, well I bought a brand new drag link
rod which is identical and in front of the tie rod, went camping the
next day and came out of the heavy bush onto an unseen rock that stopped
me dead. It also bent my new rod.
It takes a good impact to bend stuff up there....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
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04-16-2007, 03:51 PM
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Re: '04 Rubicon
kglacy@earthlink.net wrote:
> A couple of weeks ago my front axle lock light started blinking, since
> my Jeep is still under warranty I brought it in to get checked out.
> They found that the front right tie rod bracket was bent. There is no
> signs of impact, nothing else is damaged anywhere aroungd the bracket
> (not even the brakelines). The dealer tells me that the entire axle
> housing must be replaced, if I want to keep the warranty. However,
> Jeep is not release this part until April 26, 2007. Has anyone else
> seen or heard of this defect, I say defect because that is the only
> logical explanation. I haven't even had time to go searious four
> wheeling in it yet since I travel so much. Any ideas how this could
> have happen without fourwheeling or hitting an object that leaves no
> impact makes, I would appreciate it.
>
OK, your description of what is bent doesn't jive with 'the entire axle
housing must be replaced'.
A tie rod goes between the two front wheels, it really has little to do
with the axle housing.....
You have an 'ear' for lack of a better word on the spindle that the tie
rod end goes into. This is also a completely different part than an
'axle housing'.
Something is wrong here....
As far as bending a tie rod goes, well I bought a brand new drag link
rod which is identical and in front of the tie rod, went camping the
next day and came out of the heavy bush onto an unseen rock that stopped
me dead. It also bent my new rod.
It takes a good impact to bend stuff up there....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> A couple of weeks ago my front axle lock light started blinking, since
> my Jeep is still under warranty I brought it in to get checked out.
> They found that the front right tie rod bracket was bent. There is no
> signs of impact, nothing else is damaged anywhere aroungd the bracket
> (not even the brakelines). The dealer tells me that the entire axle
> housing must be replaced, if I want to keep the warranty. However,
> Jeep is not release this part until April 26, 2007. Has anyone else
> seen or heard of this defect, I say defect because that is the only
> logical explanation. I haven't even had time to go searious four
> wheeling in it yet since I travel so much. Any ideas how this could
> have happen without fourwheeling or hitting an object that leaves no
> impact makes, I would appreciate it.
>
OK, your description of what is bent doesn't jive with 'the entire axle
housing must be replaced'.
A tie rod goes between the two front wheels, it really has little to do
with the axle housing.....
You have an 'ear' for lack of a better word on the spindle that the tie
rod end goes into. This is also a completely different part than an
'axle housing'.
Something is wrong here....
As far as bending a tie rod goes, well I bought a brand new drag link
rod which is identical and in front of the tie rod, went camping the
next day and came out of the heavy bush onto an unseen rock that stopped
me dead. It also bent my new rod.
It takes a good impact to bend stuff up there....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
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04-16-2007, 03:51 PM
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Re: '04 Rubicon
kglacy@earthlink.net wrote:
> A couple of weeks ago my front axle lock light started blinking, since
> my Jeep is still under warranty I brought it in to get checked out.
> They found that the front right tie rod bracket was bent. There is no
> signs of impact, nothing else is damaged anywhere aroungd the bracket
> (not even the brakelines). The dealer tells me that the entire axle
> housing must be replaced, if I want to keep the warranty. However,
> Jeep is not release this part until April 26, 2007. Has anyone else
> seen or heard of this defect, I say defect because that is the only
> logical explanation. I haven't even had time to go searious four
> wheeling in it yet since I travel so much. Any ideas how this could
> have happen without fourwheeling or hitting an object that leaves no
> impact makes, I would appreciate it.
>
OK, your description of what is bent doesn't jive with 'the entire axle
housing must be replaced'.
A tie rod goes between the two front wheels, it really has little to do
with the axle housing.....
You have an 'ear' for lack of a better word on the spindle that the tie
rod end goes into. This is also a completely different part than an
'axle housing'.
Something is wrong here....
As far as bending a tie rod goes, well I bought a brand new drag link
rod which is identical and in front of the tie rod, went camping the
next day and came out of the heavy bush onto an unseen rock that stopped
me dead. It also bent my new rod.
It takes a good impact to bend stuff up there....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> A couple of weeks ago my front axle lock light started blinking, since
> my Jeep is still under warranty I brought it in to get checked out.
> They found that the front right tie rod bracket was bent. There is no
> signs of impact, nothing else is damaged anywhere aroungd the bracket
> (not even the brakelines). The dealer tells me that the entire axle
> housing must be replaced, if I want to keep the warranty. However,
> Jeep is not release this part until April 26, 2007. Has anyone else
> seen or heard of this defect, I say defect because that is the only
> logical explanation. I haven't even had time to go searious four
> wheeling in it yet since I travel so much. Any ideas how this could
> have happen without fourwheeling or hitting an object that leaves no
> impact makes, I would appreciate it.
>
OK, your description of what is bent doesn't jive with 'the entire axle
housing must be replaced'.
A tie rod goes between the two front wheels, it really has little to do
with the axle housing.....
You have an 'ear' for lack of a better word on the spindle that the tie
rod end goes into. This is also a completely different part than an
'axle housing'.
Something is wrong here....
As far as bending a tie rod goes, well I bought a brand new drag link
rod which is identical and in front of the tie rod, went camping the
next day and came out of the heavy bush onto an unseen rock that stopped
me dead. It also bent my new rod.
It takes a good impact to bend stuff up there....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
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04-16-2007, 03:51 PM
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Re: '04 Rubicon
kglacy@earthlink.net wrote:
> A couple of weeks ago my front axle lock light started blinking, since
> my Jeep is still under warranty I brought it in to get checked out.
> They found that the front right tie rod bracket was bent. There is no
> signs of impact, nothing else is damaged anywhere aroungd the bracket
> (not even the brakelines). The dealer tells me that the entire axle
> housing must be replaced, if I want to keep the warranty. However,
> Jeep is not release this part until April 26, 2007. Has anyone else
> seen or heard of this defect, I say defect because that is the only
> logical explanation. I haven't even had time to go searious four
> wheeling in it yet since I travel so much. Any ideas how this could
> have happen without fourwheeling or hitting an object that leaves no
> impact makes, I would appreciate it.
>
OK, your description of what is bent doesn't jive with 'the entire axle
housing must be replaced'.
A tie rod goes between the two front wheels, it really has little to do
with the axle housing.....
You have an 'ear' for lack of a better word on the spindle that the tie
rod end goes into. This is also a completely different part than an
'axle housing'.
Something is wrong here....
As far as bending a tie rod goes, well I bought a brand new drag link
rod which is identical and in front of the tie rod, went camping the
next day and came out of the heavy bush onto an unseen rock that stopped
me dead. It also bent my new rod.
It takes a good impact to bend stuff up there....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> A couple of weeks ago my front axle lock light started blinking, since
> my Jeep is still under warranty I brought it in to get checked out.
> They found that the front right tie rod bracket was bent. There is no
> signs of impact, nothing else is damaged anywhere aroungd the bracket
> (not even the brakelines). The dealer tells me that the entire axle
> housing must be replaced, if I want to keep the warranty. However,
> Jeep is not release this part until April 26, 2007. Has anyone else
> seen or heard of this defect, I say defect because that is the only
> logical explanation. I haven't even had time to go searious four
> wheeling in it yet since I travel so much. Any ideas how this could
> have happen without fourwheeling or hitting an object that leaves no
> impact makes, I would appreciate it.
>
OK, your description of what is bent doesn't jive with 'the entire axle
housing must be replaced'.
A tie rod goes between the two front wheels, it really has little to do
with the axle housing.....
You have an 'ear' for lack of a better word on the spindle that the tie
rod end goes into. This is also a completely different part than an
'axle housing'.
Something is wrong here....
As far as bending a tie rod goes, well I bought a brand new drag link
rod which is identical and in front of the tie rod, went camping the
next day and came out of the heavy bush onto an unseen rock that stopped
me dead. It also bent my new rod.
It takes a good impact to bend stuff up there....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
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04-16-2007, 08:38 PM
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Re: '04 Rubicon
Trying to think of what a "tie rod bracket" is on a solid front axle...are
you referring to the steering knuckle? Besides, the tie rod would have
nothing to do with your blinking front locker light. Find another dealer. Or
don't, and get a brand new axle. Just don't let them replace it with a Dana
30.
<kglacy@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>A couple of weeks ago my front axle lock light started blinking, since
> my Jeep is still under warranty I brought it in to get checked out.
> They found that the front right tie rod bracket was bent. There is no
> signs of impact, nothing else is damaged anywhere aroungd the bracket
> (not even the brakelines). The dealer tells me that the entire axle
> housing must be replaced, if I want to keep the warranty. However,
> Jeep is not release this part until April 26, 2007. Has anyone else
> seen or heard of this defect, I say defect because that is the only
> logical explanation. I haven't even had time to go searious four
> wheeling in it yet since I travel so much. Any ideas how this could
> have happen without fourwheeling or hitting an object that leaves no
> impact makes, I would appreciate it.
>
you referring to the steering knuckle? Besides, the tie rod would have
nothing to do with your blinking front locker light. Find another dealer. Or
don't, and get a brand new axle. Just don't let them replace it with a Dana
30.
<kglacy@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>A couple of weeks ago my front axle lock light started blinking, since
> my Jeep is still under warranty I brought it in to get checked out.
> They found that the front right tie rod bracket was bent. There is no
> signs of impact, nothing else is damaged anywhere aroungd the bracket
> (not even the brakelines). The dealer tells me that the entire axle
> housing must be replaced, if I want to keep the warranty. However,
> Jeep is not release this part until April 26, 2007. Has anyone else
> seen or heard of this defect, I say defect because that is the only
> logical explanation. I haven't even had time to go searious four
> wheeling in it yet since I travel so much. Any ideas how this could
> have happen without fourwheeling or hitting an object that leaves no
> impact makes, I would appreciate it.
>
04-16-2007, 08:38 PM
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Re: '04 Rubicon
Trying to think of what a "tie rod bracket" is on a solid front axle...are
you referring to the steering knuckle? Besides, the tie rod would have
nothing to do with your blinking front locker light. Find another dealer. Or
don't, and get a brand new axle. Just don't let them replace it with a Dana
30.
<kglacy@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>A couple of weeks ago my front axle lock light started blinking, since
> my Jeep is still under warranty I brought it in to get checked out.
> They found that the front right tie rod bracket was bent. There is no
> signs of impact, nothing else is damaged anywhere aroungd the bracket
> (not even the brakelines). The dealer tells me that the entire axle
> housing must be replaced, if I want to keep the warranty. However,
> Jeep is not release this part until April 26, 2007. Has anyone else
> seen or heard of this defect, I say defect because that is the only
> logical explanation. I haven't even had time to go searious four
> wheeling in it yet since I travel so much. Any ideas how this could
> have happen without fourwheeling or hitting an object that leaves no
> impact makes, I would appreciate it.
>
you referring to the steering knuckle? Besides, the tie rod would have
nothing to do with your blinking front locker light. Find another dealer. Or
don't, and get a brand new axle. Just don't let them replace it with a Dana
30.
<kglacy@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>A couple of weeks ago my front axle lock light started blinking, since
> my Jeep is still under warranty I brought it in to get checked out.
> They found that the front right tie rod bracket was bent. There is no
> signs of impact, nothing else is damaged anywhere aroungd the bracket
> (not even the brakelines). The dealer tells me that the entire axle
> housing must be replaced, if I want to keep the warranty. However,
> Jeep is not release this part until April 26, 2007. Has anyone else
> seen or heard of this defect, I say defect because that is the only
> logical explanation. I haven't even had time to go searious four
> wheeling in it yet since I travel so much. Any ideas how this could
> have happen without fourwheeling or hitting an object that leaves no
> impact makes, I would appreciate it.
>
04-16-2007, 08:38 PM
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Re: '04 Rubicon
Trying to think of what a "tie rod bracket" is on a solid front axle...are
you referring to the steering knuckle? Besides, the tie rod would have
nothing to do with your blinking front locker light. Find another dealer. Or
don't, and get a brand new axle. Just don't let them replace it with a Dana
30.
<kglacy@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:1176751679.453841.172510@e65g2000hsc.googlegr oups.com...
>A couple of weeks ago my front axle lock light started blinking, since
> my Jeep is still under warranty I brought it in to get checked out.
> They found that the front right tie rod bracket was bent. There is no
> signs of impact, nothing else is damaged anywhere aroungd the bracket
> (not even the brakelines). The dealer tells me that the entire axle
> housing must be replaced, if I want to keep the warranty. However,
> Jeep is not release this part until April 26, 2007. Has anyone else
> seen or heard of this defect, I say defect because that is the only
> logical explanation. I haven't even had time to go searious four
> wheeling in it yet since I travel so much. Any ideas how this could
> have happen without fourwheeling or hitting an object that leaves no
> impact makes, I would appreciate it.
>
you referring to the steering knuckle? Besides, the tie rod would have
nothing to do with your blinking front locker light. Find another dealer. Or
don't, and get a brand new axle. Just don't let them replace it with a Dana
30.
<kglacy@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>A couple of weeks ago my front axle lock light started blinking, since
> my Jeep is still under warranty I brought it in to get checked out.
> They found that the front right tie rod bracket was bent. There is no
> signs of impact, nothing else is damaged anywhere aroungd the bracket
> (not even the brakelines). The dealer tells me that the entire axle
> housing must be replaced, if I want to keep the warranty. However,
> Jeep is not release this part until April 26, 2007. Has anyone else
> seen or heard of this defect, I say defect because that is the only
> logical explanation. I haven't even had time to go searious four
> wheeling in it yet since I travel so much. Any ideas how this could
> have happen without fourwheeling or hitting an object that leaves no
> impact makes, I would appreciate it.
>
04-16-2007, 08:38 PM
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Re: '04 Rubicon
Trying to think of what a "tie rod bracket" is on a solid front axle...are
you referring to the steering knuckle? Besides, the tie rod would have
nothing to do with your blinking front locker light. Find another dealer. Or
don't, and get a brand new axle. Just don't let them replace it with a Dana
30.
<kglacy@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>A couple of weeks ago my front axle lock light started blinking, since
> my Jeep is still under warranty I brought it in to get checked out.
> They found that the front right tie rod bracket was bent. There is no
> signs of impact, nothing else is damaged anywhere aroungd the bracket
> (not even the brakelines). The dealer tells me that the entire axle
> housing must be replaced, if I want to keep the warranty. However,
> Jeep is not release this part until April 26, 2007. Has anyone else
> seen or heard of this defect, I say defect because that is the only
> logical explanation. I haven't even had time to go searious four
> wheeling in it yet since I travel so much. Any ideas how this could
> have happen without fourwheeling or hitting an object that leaves no
> impact makes, I would appreciate it.
>
you referring to the steering knuckle? Besides, the tie rod would have
nothing to do with your blinking front locker light. Find another dealer. Or
don't, and get a brand new axle. Just don't let them replace it with a Dana
30.
<kglacy@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>A couple of weeks ago my front axle lock light started blinking, since
> my Jeep is still under warranty I brought it in to get checked out.
> They found that the front right tie rod bracket was bent. There is no
> signs of impact, nothing else is damaged anywhere aroungd the bracket
> (not even the brakelines). The dealer tells me that the entire axle
> housing must be replaced, if I want to keep the warranty. However,
> Jeep is not release this part until April 26, 2007. Has anyone else
> seen or heard of this defect, I say defect because that is the only
> logical explanation. I haven't even had time to go searious four
> wheeling in it yet since I travel so much. Any ideas how this could
> have happen without fourwheeling or hitting an object that leaves no
> impact makes, I would appreciate it.
>
04-16-2007, 09:39 PM
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Re: '04 Rubicon
kglacy@earthlink.net wrote:
> A couple of weeks ago my front axle lock light started blinking, since
> my Jeep is still under warranty I brought it in to get checked out.
> They found that the front right tie rod bracket was bent. There is no
> signs of impact, nothing else is damaged anywhere aroungd the bracket
> (not even the brakelines). The dealer tells me that the entire axle
> housing must be replaced, if I want to keep the warranty. However,
> Jeep is not release this part until April 26, 2007. Has anyone else
> seen or heard of this defect, I say defect because that is the only
> logical explanation. I haven't even had time to go searious four
> wheeling in it yet since I travel so much. Any ideas how this could
> have happen without fourwheeling or hitting an object that leaves no
> impact makes, I would appreciate it.
>
Maybe you mean sway bar bracket? I bent the sway bar bracket on my '03
Rubi for no explicable reason. Yes, I was off road, but there was no
impact nor maneuver that would warrant that kind of damage. Still
puzzling over that one. It is still bent.
tw
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> A couple of weeks ago my front axle lock light started blinking, since
> my Jeep is still under warranty I brought it in to get checked out.
> They found that the front right tie rod bracket was bent. There is no
> signs of impact, nothing else is damaged anywhere aroungd the bracket
> (not even the brakelines). The dealer tells me that the entire axle
> housing must be replaced, if I want to keep the warranty. However,
> Jeep is not release this part until April 26, 2007. Has anyone else
> seen or heard of this defect, I say defect because that is the only
> logical explanation. I haven't even had time to go searious four
> wheeling in it yet since I travel so much. Any ideas how this could
> have happen without fourwheeling or hitting an object that leaves no
> impact makes, I would appreciate it.
>
Maybe you mean sway bar bracket? I bent the sway bar bracket on my '03
Rubi for no explicable reason. Yes, I was off road, but there was no
impact nor maneuver that would warrant that kind of damage. Still
puzzling over that one. It is still bent.
tw
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