'04 Liberty - Sticky accelerator, anyone else?
10-04-2003, 01:50 PM
#11
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Re: '04 Liberty - Sticky accelerator, anyone else?
Denial is not just a river in Egypt. All cars made in the past
fifteen years will hold the throttle open for a short period of time to
compensate for their poor drivers, that constantly vary their speeds,
destroying their fuel economy. An EPA mandate.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jeeters wrote:
>
> wtf? I have an '03 Liberty Limited and it does *nothing* like this and
> never has.
fifteen years will hold the throttle open for a short period of time to
compensate for their poor drivers, that constantly vary their speeds,
destroying their fuel economy. An EPA mandate.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jeeters wrote:
>
> wtf? I have an '03 Liberty Limited and it does *nothing* like this and
> never has.
10-04-2003, 01:50 PM
#12
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Re: '04 Liberty - Sticky accelerator, anyone else?
Denial is not just a river in Egypt. All cars made in the past
fifteen years will hold the throttle open for a short period of time to
compensate for their poor drivers, that constantly vary their speeds,
destroying their fuel economy. An EPA mandate.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jeeters wrote:
>
> wtf? I have an '03 Liberty Limited and it does *nothing* like this and
> never has.
fifteen years will hold the throttle open for a short period of time to
compensate for their poor drivers, that constantly vary their speeds,
destroying their fuel economy. An EPA mandate.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jeeters wrote:
>
> wtf? I have an '03 Liberty Limited and it does *nothing* like this and
> never has.
10-04-2003, 01:50 PM
#13
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Re: '04 Liberty - Sticky accelerator, anyone else?
Denial is not just a river in Egypt. All cars made in the past
fifteen years will hold the throttle open for a short period of time to
compensate for their poor drivers, that constantly vary their speeds,
destroying their fuel economy. An EPA mandate.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jeeters wrote:
>
> wtf? I have an '03 Liberty Limited and it does *nothing* like this and
> never has.
fifteen years will hold the throttle open for a short period of time to
compensate for their poor drivers, that constantly vary their speeds,
destroying their fuel economy. An EPA mandate.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jeeters wrote:
>
> wtf? I have an '03 Liberty Limited and it does *nothing* like this and
> never has.
10-04-2003, 02:03 PM
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Re: '04 Liberty - Sticky accelerator, anyone else?
Is it an automatic or manual?
I've been hoping to get others to give me some feedback about their own cars.
Dave
"Jeeters" <noham@nospam.com> wrote in message news:<lbedneHXhqm-N-OiRVn-vQ@giganews.com>...
> "Dave Hansen" <dave@unidave.com> wrote in message
> news:8dcd1f1b.0309161105.40f65f8@posting.google.co m...
> > I just got back from the dealer who said it must be normal. Ugh.
> >
> > I have an '04 Liberty 3.7L w/automatic. When starting from a dead
> > stop (I'm talking traffic jam type stop-and-go) and I put just enough
> > pressure on the gas to make the car move, and instantly let up the
> > pedal, the engine doesn't return to idle immediately. This causes me
> > to have to hit the brakes so I'm not propelled into the car in front
> > of me. The accelerator does eventually drop to a normal idle but it's
> > between 1.5 to 2 seconds.
> >
> > Related to this is when driving slowly (5-10 mph) and trying to
> > maintain a steady speed, the accelerator seems to have just two
> > states: accelerating or decelerating but not just a steady RPM to
> > maintain the slow speed.
> >
> > I just realized that using the accelerator pedal, I can't reach RPMs
> > between idle and 1100. It's either idling or 1100 RPMs. This seems
> > to explain the above issues.
> >
> > Has anyone else seen this?
> >
> > The service manager let me take another Liberty for a ride and it's
> > accelerator did the same thing only worse. In some cases, the other
> > one didn't drop to idle at all after releasing the gas pedal.
>
> wtf? I have an '03 Liberty Limited and it does *nothing* like this and
> never has.
I've been hoping to get others to give me some feedback about their own cars.
Dave
"Jeeters" <noham@nospam.com> wrote in message news:<lbedneHXhqm-N-OiRVn-vQ@giganews.com>...
> "Dave Hansen" <dave@unidave.com> wrote in message
> news:8dcd1f1b.0309161105.40f65f8@posting.google.co m...
> > I just got back from the dealer who said it must be normal. Ugh.
> >
> > I have an '04 Liberty 3.7L w/automatic. When starting from a dead
> > stop (I'm talking traffic jam type stop-and-go) and I put just enough
> > pressure on the gas to make the car move, and instantly let up the
> > pedal, the engine doesn't return to idle immediately. This causes me
> > to have to hit the brakes so I'm not propelled into the car in front
> > of me. The accelerator does eventually drop to a normal idle but it's
> > between 1.5 to 2 seconds.
> >
> > Related to this is when driving slowly (5-10 mph) and trying to
> > maintain a steady speed, the accelerator seems to have just two
> > states: accelerating or decelerating but not just a steady RPM to
> > maintain the slow speed.
> >
> > I just realized that using the accelerator pedal, I can't reach RPMs
> > between idle and 1100. It's either idling or 1100 RPMs. This seems
> > to explain the above issues.
> >
> > Has anyone else seen this?
> >
> > The service manager let me take another Liberty for a ride and it's
> > accelerator did the same thing only worse. In some cases, the other
> > one didn't drop to idle at all after releasing the gas pedal.
>
> wtf? I have an '03 Liberty Limited and it does *nothing* like this and
> never has.
10-04-2003, 02:03 PM
#15
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Re: '04 Liberty - Sticky accelerator, anyone else?
Is it an automatic or manual?
I've been hoping to get others to give me some feedback about their own cars.
Dave
"Jeeters" <noham@nospam.com> wrote in message news:<lbedneHXhqm-N-OiRVn-vQ@giganews.com>...
> "Dave Hansen" <dave@unidave.com> wrote in message
> news:8dcd1f1b.0309161105.40f65f8@posting.google.co m...
> > I just got back from the dealer who said it must be normal. Ugh.
> >
> > I have an '04 Liberty 3.7L w/automatic. When starting from a dead
> > stop (I'm talking traffic jam type stop-and-go) and I put just enough
> > pressure on the gas to make the car move, and instantly let up the
> > pedal, the engine doesn't return to idle immediately. This causes me
> > to have to hit the brakes so I'm not propelled into the car in front
> > of me. The accelerator does eventually drop to a normal idle but it's
> > between 1.5 to 2 seconds.
> >
> > Related to this is when driving slowly (5-10 mph) and trying to
> > maintain a steady speed, the accelerator seems to have just two
> > states: accelerating or decelerating but not just a steady RPM to
> > maintain the slow speed.
> >
> > I just realized that using the accelerator pedal, I can't reach RPMs
> > between idle and 1100. It's either idling or 1100 RPMs. This seems
> > to explain the above issues.
> >
> > Has anyone else seen this?
> >
> > The service manager let me take another Liberty for a ride and it's
> > accelerator did the same thing only worse. In some cases, the other
> > one didn't drop to idle at all after releasing the gas pedal.
>
> wtf? I have an '03 Liberty Limited and it does *nothing* like this and
> never has.
I've been hoping to get others to give me some feedback about their own cars.
Dave
"Jeeters" <noham@nospam.com> wrote in message news:<lbedneHXhqm-N-OiRVn-vQ@giganews.com>...
> "Dave Hansen" <dave@unidave.com> wrote in message
> news:8dcd1f1b.0309161105.40f65f8@posting.google.co m...
> > I just got back from the dealer who said it must be normal. Ugh.
> >
> > I have an '04 Liberty 3.7L w/automatic. When starting from a dead
> > stop (I'm talking traffic jam type stop-and-go) and I put just enough
> > pressure on the gas to make the car move, and instantly let up the
> > pedal, the engine doesn't return to idle immediately. This causes me
> > to have to hit the brakes so I'm not propelled into the car in front
> > of me. The accelerator does eventually drop to a normal idle but it's
> > between 1.5 to 2 seconds.
> >
> > Related to this is when driving slowly (5-10 mph) and trying to
> > maintain a steady speed, the accelerator seems to have just two
> > states: accelerating or decelerating but not just a steady RPM to
> > maintain the slow speed.
> >
> > I just realized that using the accelerator pedal, I can't reach RPMs
> > between idle and 1100. It's either idling or 1100 RPMs. This seems
> > to explain the above issues.
> >
> > Has anyone else seen this?
> >
> > The service manager let me take another Liberty for a ride and it's
> > accelerator did the same thing only worse. In some cases, the other
> > one didn't drop to idle at all after releasing the gas pedal.
>
> wtf? I have an '03 Liberty Limited and it does *nothing* like this and
> never has.
10-04-2003, 02:03 PM
#16
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Re: '04 Liberty - Sticky accelerator, anyone else?
Is it an automatic or manual?
I've been hoping to get others to give me some feedback about their own cars.
Dave
"Jeeters" <noham@nospam.com> wrote in message news:<lbedneHXhqm-N-OiRVn-vQ@giganews.com>...
> "Dave Hansen" <dave@unidave.com> wrote in message
> news:8dcd1f1b.0309161105.40f65f8@posting.google.co m...
> > I just got back from the dealer who said it must be normal. Ugh.
> >
> > I have an '04 Liberty 3.7L w/automatic. When starting from a dead
> > stop (I'm talking traffic jam type stop-and-go) and I put just enough
> > pressure on the gas to make the car move, and instantly let up the
> > pedal, the engine doesn't return to idle immediately. This causes me
> > to have to hit the brakes so I'm not propelled into the car in front
> > of me. The accelerator does eventually drop to a normal idle but it's
> > between 1.5 to 2 seconds.
> >
> > Related to this is when driving slowly (5-10 mph) and trying to
> > maintain a steady speed, the accelerator seems to have just two
> > states: accelerating or decelerating but not just a steady RPM to
> > maintain the slow speed.
> >
> > I just realized that using the accelerator pedal, I can't reach RPMs
> > between idle and 1100. It's either idling or 1100 RPMs. This seems
> > to explain the above issues.
> >
> > Has anyone else seen this?
> >
> > The service manager let me take another Liberty for a ride and it's
> > accelerator did the same thing only worse. In some cases, the other
> > one didn't drop to idle at all after releasing the gas pedal.
>
> wtf? I have an '03 Liberty Limited and it does *nothing* like this and
> never has.
I've been hoping to get others to give me some feedback about their own cars.
Dave
"Jeeters" <noham@nospam.com> wrote in message news:<lbedneHXhqm-N-OiRVn-vQ@giganews.com>...
> "Dave Hansen" <dave@unidave.com> wrote in message
> news:8dcd1f1b.0309161105.40f65f8@posting.google.co m...
> > I just got back from the dealer who said it must be normal. Ugh.
> >
> > I have an '04 Liberty 3.7L w/automatic. When starting from a dead
> > stop (I'm talking traffic jam type stop-and-go) and I put just enough
> > pressure on the gas to make the car move, and instantly let up the
> > pedal, the engine doesn't return to idle immediately. This causes me
> > to have to hit the brakes so I'm not propelled into the car in front
> > of me. The accelerator does eventually drop to a normal idle but it's
> > between 1.5 to 2 seconds.
> >
> > Related to this is when driving slowly (5-10 mph) and trying to
> > maintain a steady speed, the accelerator seems to have just two
> > states: accelerating or decelerating but not just a steady RPM to
> > maintain the slow speed.
> >
> > I just realized that using the accelerator pedal, I can't reach RPMs
> > between idle and 1100. It's either idling or 1100 RPMs. This seems
> > to explain the above issues.
> >
> > Has anyone else seen this?
> >
> > The service manager let me take another Liberty for a ride and it's
> > accelerator did the same thing only worse. In some cases, the other
> > one didn't drop to idle at all after releasing the gas pedal.
>
> wtf? I have an '03 Liberty Limited and it does *nothing* like this and
> never has.
10-04-2003, 06:14 PM
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Re: '04 Liberty - Sticky accelerator, anyone else?
In article <3F7F0862.74061ABC@***.net>, L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) ------
III <----------@***.net> writes:
> Denial is not just a river in Egypt. All cars made in the past
>fifteen years will hold the throttle open for a short period of time to
>compensate for their poor drivers, that constantly vary their speeds,
>destroying their fuel economy. An EPA mandate.
Hmm. I must be an exceptionally good driver, no car I've bought in the last 15
years exhibited this feature. Of course, I never owned an Audi...
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
III <----------@***.net> writes:
> Denial is not just a river in Egypt. All cars made in the past
>fifteen years will hold the throttle open for a short period of time to
>compensate for their poor drivers, that constantly vary their speeds,
>destroying their fuel economy. An EPA mandate.
Hmm. I must be an exceptionally good driver, no car I've bought in the last 15
years exhibited this feature. Of course, I never owned an Audi...
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
10-04-2003, 06:14 PM
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Re: '04 Liberty - Sticky accelerator, anyone else?
In article <3F7F0862.74061ABC@***.net>, L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) ------
III <----------@***.net> writes:
> Denial is not just a river in Egypt. All cars made in the past
>fifteen years will hold the throttle open for a short period of time to
>compensate for their poor drivers, that constantly vary their speeds,
>destroying their fuel economy. An EPA mandate.
Hmm. I must be an exceptionally good driver, no car I've bought in the last 15
years exhibited this feature. Of course, I never owned an Audi...
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
III <----------@***.net> writes:
> Denial is not just a river in Egypt. All cars made in the past
>fifteen years will hold the throttle open for a short period of time to
>compensate for their poor drivers, that constantly vary their speeds,
>destroying their fuel economy. An EPA mandate.
Hmm. I must be an exceptionally good driver, no car I've bought in the last 15
years exhibited this feature. Of course, I never owned an Audi...
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
10-04-2003, 06:14 PM
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Re: '04 Liberty - Sticky accelerator, anyone else?
In article <3F7F0862.74061ABC@***.net>, L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) ------
III <----------@***.net> writes:
> Denial is not just a river in Egypt. All cars made in the past
>fifteen years will hold the throttle open for a short period of time to
>compensate for their poor drivers, that constantly vary their speeds,
>destroying their fuel economy. An EPA mandate.
Hmm. I must be an exceptionally good driver, no car I've bought in the last 15
years exhibited this feature. Of course, I never owned an Audi...
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
III <----------@***.net> writes:
> Denial is not just a river in Egypt. All cars made in the past
>fifteen years will hold the throttle open for a short period of time to
>compensate for their poor drivers, that constantly vary their speeds,
>destroying their fuel economy. An EPA mandate.
Hmm. I must be an exceptionally good driver, no car I've bought in the last 15
years exhibited this feature. Of course, I never owned an Audi...
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
10-04-2003, 06:42 PM
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Re: '04 Liberty - Sticky accelerator, anyone else?
Hi Matt,
I think maybe you have never felt the feeling of instant
deceleration when you lift your foot. It's one of the reasons a car from
the fifties rap so loudly, between shifts. Like maybe you weren't
driving fifteen years ago.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Hmm. I must be an exceptionally good driver, no car I've bought in the last 15
> years exhibited this feature. Of course, I never owned an Audi...
>
> * * *
> Matt Macchiarolo
> www.townpeddler.com
> www.wolverine4wd.org
> http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
I think maybe you have never felt the feeling of instant
deceleration when you lift your foot. It's one of the reasons a car from
the fifties rap so loudly, between shifts. Like maybe you weren't
driving fifteen years ago.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Hmm. I must be an exceptionally good driver, no car I've bought in the last 15
> years exhibited this feature. Of course, I never owned an Audi...
>
> * * *
> Matt Macchiarolo
> www.townpeddler.com
> www.wolverine4wd.org
> http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html