04 JGC Quadr-Trac II question
01-07-2004, 05:38 PM
#11
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Re: 04 JGC Quadr-Trac II question
Hi Dan,
The trademark name is "Traction Control", and the car must first
have ABS. Jeep, and most luxury cars have been using it for years, some
even use the automatic brakes for high speed steering. The Grand
Cherokee has been using it instead of limited slip differentials since
'97, of course it's an option. It at least eludes to the fact that
brakes are used in this Chrysler rhetoric:
http://www.teterborochrysler.com/chr...m_features.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Danny Boy wrote:
>
> Applies the brake? As in actually compresses the brake pad against the
> rotor on the wheel that is slipping? This doesn't sound right. If that
> were the case, that would mean the computer would have to control the 4x4
> somehow, and based on the link you provided, it mentions the system is
> mechanical, not electrical. (of course the link discusses the QuadraDrive
> system, not the QTII system. but from what I understand the only difference
> is the addition of a vari-lock diff in the axles.)
>
> Seems strange if a wheel starts spinning in the mud, the brake would be
> applied to transfer power. Sounds similar to driving down the road while
> depressing the brake pedal at the same time. ??
>
> Can anyone else confirm or deny the explanation by Bill?
The trademark name is "Traction Control", and the car must first
have ABS. Jeep, and most luxury cars have been using it for years, some
even use the automatic brakes for high speed steering. The Grand
Cherokee has been using it instead of limited slip differentials since
'97, of course it's an option. It at least eludes to the fact that
brakes are used in this Chrysler rhetoric:
http://www.teterborochrysler.com/chr...m_features.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Danny Boy wrote:
>
> Applies the brake? As in actually compresses the brake pad against the
> rotor on the wheel that is slipping? This doesn't sound right. If that
> were the case, that would mean the computer would have to control the 4x4
> somehow, and based on the link you provided, it mentions the system is
> mechanical, not electrical. (of course the link discusses the QuadraDrive
> system, not the QTII system. but from what I understand the only difference
> is the addition of a vari-lock diff in the axles.)
>
> Seems strange if a wheel starts spinning in the mud, the brake would be
> applied to transfer power. Sounds similar to driving down the road while
> depressing the brake pedal at the same time. ??
>
> Can anyone else confirm or deny the explanation by Bill?
01-07-2004, 05:38 PM
#12
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Re: 04 JGC Quadr-Trac II question
Hi Dan,
The trademark name is "Traction Control", and the car must first
have ABS. Jeep, and most luxury cars have been using it for years, some
even use the automatic brakes for high speed steering. The Grand
Cherokee has been using it instead of limited slip differentials since
'97, of course it's an option. It at least eludes to the fact that
brakes are used in this Chrysler rhetoric:
http://www.teterborochrysler.com/chr...m_features.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Danny Boy wrote:
>
> Applies the brake? As in actually compresses the brake pad against the
> rotor on the wheel that is slipping? This doesn't sound right. If that
> were the case, that would mean the computer would have to control the 4x4
> somehow, and based on the link you provided, it mentions the system is
> mechanical, not electrical. (of course the link discusses the QuadraDrive
> system, not the QTII system. but from what I understand the only difference
> is the addition of a vari-lock diff in the axles.)
>
> Seems strange if a wheel starts spinning in the mud, the brake would be
> applied to transfer power. Sounds similar to driving down the road while
> depressing the brake pedal at the same time. ??
>
> Can anyone else confirm or deny the explanation by Bill?
The trademark name is "Traction Control", and the car must first
have ABS. Jeep, and most luxury cars have been using it for years, some
even use the automatic brakes for high speed steering. The Grand
Cherokee has been using it instead of limited slip differentials since
'97, of course it's an option. It at least eludes to the fact that
brakes are used in this Chrysler rhetoric:
http://www.teterborochrysler.com/chr...m_features.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Danny Boy wrote:
>
> Applies the brake? As in actually compresses the brake pad against the
> rotor on the wheel that is slipping? This doesn't sound right. If that
> were the case, that would mean the computer would have to control the 4x4
> somehow, and based on the link you provided, it mentions the system is
> mechanical, not electrical. (of course the link discusses the QuadraDrive
> system, not the QTII system. but from what I understand the only difference
> is the addition of a vari-lock diff in the axles.)
>
> Seems strange if a wheel starts spinning in the mud, the brake would be
> applied to transfer power. Sounds similar to driving down the road while
> depressing the brake pedal at the same time. ??
>
> Can anyone else confirm or deny the explanation by Bill?
01-07-2004, 05:38 PM
#13
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Re: 04 JGC Quadr-Trac II question
Hi Dan,
The trademark name is "Traction Control", and the car must first
have ABS. Jeep, and most luxury cars have been using it for years, some
even use the automatic brakes for high speed steering. The Grand
Cherokee has been using it instead of limited slip differentials since
'97, of course it's an option. It at least eludes to the fact that
brakes are used in this Chrysler rhetoric:
http://www.teterborochrysler.com/chr...m_features.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Danny Boy wrote:
>
> Applies the brake? As in actually compresses the brake pad against the
> rotor on the wheel that is slipping? This doesn't sound right. If that
> were the case, that would mean the computer would have to control the 4x4
> somehow, and based on the link you provided, it mentions the system is
> mechanical, not electrical. (of course the link discusses the QuadraDrive
> system, not the QTII system. but from what I understand the only difference
> is the addition of a vari-lock diff in the axles.)
>
> Seems strange if a wheel starts spinning in the mud, the brake would be
> applied to transfer power. Sounds similar to driving down the road while
> depressing the brake pedal at the same time. ??
>
> Can anyone else confirm or deny the explanation by Bill?
The trademark name is "Traction Control", and the car must first
have ABS. Jeep, and most luxury cars have been using it for years, some
even use the automatic brakes for high speed steering. The Grand
Cherokee has been using it instead of limited slip differentials since
'97, of course it's an option. It at least eludes to the fact that
brakes are used in this Chrysler rhetoric:
http://www.teterborochrysler.com/chr...m_features.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Danny Boy wrote:
>
> Applies the brake? As in actually compresses the brake pad against the
> rotor on the wheel that is slipping? This doesn't sound right. If that
> were the case, that would mean the computer would have to control the 4x4
> somehow, and based on the link you provided, it mentions the system is
> mechanical, not electrical. (of course the link discusses the QuadraDrive
> system, not the QTII system. but from what I understand the only difference
> is the addition of a vari-lock diff in the axles.)
>
> Seems strange if a wheel starts spinning in the mud, the brake would be
> applied to transfer power. Sounds similar to driving down the road while
> depressing the brake pedal at the same time. ??
>
> Can anyone else confirm or deny the explanation by Bill?
01-07-2004, 10:05 PM
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Re: 04 JGC Quadr-Trac II question
Sorry, but the previous post is wrong - the brake is never applied on the
QTII.
The link that L.W. provided does a great job of explaining how the system
works - it's 100% mechanical, essentially combining the concepts of how an
oil pump works and how a clutch slave cylinder works.
As to your question, I would agree with the 1/2 second statement.
Bottom line, it's an awesome 4WD system.
About two years ago, I was launching my SeaDoo off of a boat ramp with my
2WD Dodge Truck. The water level of the lake was low so I had to back far
down the ramp to launch the SeaDoo.
When I retrieved my SeaDoo I backed the Dodge past the end of the concrete
boat ramp onto the soft gravel. It was almost buried to the axle before I
gave up.
I drove my '99 GC down the launch and pulled forward until the two vehicles
were almost "nose to nose."
I then secured a 10,000 pound tow strap to the frame of the Dodge and wound
the strap through the front tow hooks on the GC.
When I started to back the Jeep up the ramp, I could feel the rear tires
bite the concrete ramp for traction. After only minimal wheel slip I could
feel the front suspension compress as the front wheels clawed for traction.
Before the Dodge "popped" out of the hole that I dug, the Jeep managed to
use each of the four wheels to claw for traction on dry concrete - at one
point, all four wheels were turning at the same time.
Sorry for the long post, but I didn't want you to mis-understand how the
system works. If you are still unclear, I would recommend the link in
L.W.'s original post.
As a side note, the Mercedes 4WD system on the ML SUV works exactly as L.W.
describes.
Have a great week and enjoy your new Jeep.
SBH
"Danny Boy" <nomail@4me.com> wrote in message
news:3ffc7afe$1@news.gvsu.edu...
> Applies the brake? As in actually compresses the brake pad against the
> rotor on the wheel that is slipping? This doesn't sound right. If that
> were the case, that would mean the computer would have to control the 4x4
> somehow, and based on the link you provided, it mentions the system is
> mechanical, not electrical. (of course the link discusses the QuadraDrive
> system, not the QTII system. but from what I understand the only
difference
> is the addition of a vari-lock diff in the axles.)
>
> Seems strange if a wheel starts spinning in the mud, the brake would be
> applied to transfer power. Sounds similar to driving down the road while
> depressing the brake pedal at the same time. ??
>
> Can anyone else confirm or deny the explanation by Bill?
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:3FFC6845.4CEE74D7@***.net...
> > It applies the brake to the spinning wheel to force that power to
> > the wheels with traction, much like any farmer has used his
> > hand/emergency brake to become unstuck, since the Model T:
> >
>
http://www.imajeep.com/2001%20Grand/...ive_system.htm
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Danny Boy wrote:
> > >
> > > My jeep has the QTII transfer case, which as most of you already know,
> means
> > > it applies power to front/rear as needed based on wheel slip.
> > > My question is this:
> > > What is the time it takes to engage the front wheels once the rears
> start
> > > slipping? Is it instantaneous, or does it take a bit?
> > > Also, how long does the front axle stay engaged once power has been
> > > transferred to the front?
>
>
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QTII.
The link that L.W. provided does a great job of explaining how the system
works - it's 100% mechanical, essentially combining the concepts of how an
oil pump works and how a clutch slave cylinder works.
As to your question, I would agree with the 1/2 second statement.
Bottom line, it's an awesome 4WD system.
About two years ago, I was launching my SeaDoo off of a boat ramp with my
2WD Dodge Truck. The water level of the lake was low so I had to back far
down the ramp to launch the SeaDoo.
When I retrieved my SeaDoo I backed the Dodge past the end of the concrete
boat ramp onto the soft gravel. It was almost buried to the axle before I
gave up.
I drove my '99 GC down the launch and pulled forward until the two vehicles
were almost "nose to nose."
I then secured a 10,000 pound tow strap to the frame of the Dodge and wound
the strap through the front tow hooks on the GC.
When I started to back the Jeep up the ramp, I could feel the rear tires
bite the concrete ramp for traction. After only minimal wheel slip I could
feel the front suspension compress as the front wheels clawed for traction.
Before the Dodge "popped" out of the hole that I dug, the Jeep managed to
use each of the four wheels to claw for traction on dry concrete - at one
point, all four wheels were turning at the same time.
Sorry for the long post, but I didn't want you to mis-understand how the
system works. If you are still unclear, I would recommend the link in
L.W.'s original post.
As a side note, the Mercedes 4WD system on the ML SUV works exactly as L.W.
describes.
Have a great week and enjoy your new Jeep.
SBH
"Danny Boy" <nomail@4me.com> wrote in message
news:3ffc7afe$1@news.gvsu.edu...
> Applies the brake? As in actually compresses the brake pad against the
> rotor on the wheel that is slipping? This doesn't sound right. If that
> were the case, that would mean the computer would have to control the 4x4
> somehow, and based on the link you provided, it mentions the system is
> mechanical, not electrical. (of course the link discusses the QuadraDrive
> system, not the QTII system. but from what I understand the only
difference
> is the addition of a vari-lock diff in the axles.)
>
> Seems strange if a wheel starts spinning in the mud, the brake would be
> applied to transfer power. Sounds similar to driving down the road while
> depressing the brake pedal at the same time. ??
>
> Can anyone else confirm or deny the explanation by Bill?
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:3FFC6845.4CEE74D7@***.net...
> > It applies the brake to the spinning wheel to force that power to
> > the wheels with traction, much like any farmer has used his
> > hand/emergency brake to become unstuck, since the Model T:
> >
>
http://www.imajeep.com/2001%20Grand/...ive_system.htm
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Danny Boy wrote:
> > >
> > > My jeep has the QTII transfer case, which as most of you already know,
> means
> > > it applies power to front/rear as needed based on wheel slip.
> > > My question is this:
> > > What is the time it takes to engage the front wheels once the rears
> start
> > > slipping? Is it instantaneous, or does it take a bit?
> > > Also, how long does the front axle stay engaged once power has been
> > > transferred to the front?
>
>
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01-07-2004, 10:05 PM
#15
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Re: 04 JGC Quadr-Trac II question
Sorry, but the previous post is wrong - the brake is never applied on the
QTII.
The link that L.W. provided does a great job of explaining how the system
works - it's 100% mechanical, essentially combining the concepts of how an
oil pump works and how a clutch slave cylinder works.
As to your question, I would agree with the 1/2 second statement.
Bottom line, it's an awesome 4WD system.
About two years ago, I was launching my SeaDoo off of a boat ramp with my
2WD Dodge Truck. The water level of the lake was low so I had to back far
down the ramp to launch the SeaDoo.
When I retrieved my SeaDoo I backed the Dodge past the end of the concrete
boat ramp onto the soft gravel. It was almost buried to the axle before I
gave up.
I drove my '99 GC down the launch and pulled forward until the two vehicles
were almost "nose to nose."
I then secured a 10,000 pound tow strap to the frame of the Dodge and wound
the strap through the front tow hooks on the GC.
When I started to back the Jeep up the ramp, I could feel the rear tires
bite the concrete ramp for traction. After only minimal wheel slip I could
feel the front suspension compress as the front wheels clawed for traction.
Before the Dodge "popped" out of the hole that I dug, the Jeep managed to
use each of the four wheels to claw for traction on dry concrete - at one
point, all four wheels were turning at the same time.
Sorry for the long post, but I didn't want you to mis-understand how the
system works. If you are still unclear, I would recommend the link in
L.W.'s original post.
As a side note, the Mercedes 4WD system on the ML SUV works exactly as L.W.
describes.
Have a great week and enjoy your new Jeep.
SBH
"Danny Boy" <nomail@4me.com> wrote in message
news:3ffc7afe$1@news.gvsu.edu...
> Applies the brake? As in actually compresses the brake pad against the
> rotor on the wheel that is slipping? This doesn't sound right. If that
> were the case, that would mean the computer would have to control the 4x4
> somehow, and based on the link you provided, it mentions the system is
> mechanical, not electrical. (of course the link discusses the QuadraDrive
> system, not the QTII system. but from what I understand the only
difference
> is the addition of a vari-lock diff in the axles.)
>
> Seems strange if a wheel starts spinning in the mud, the brake would be
> applied to transfer power. Sounds similar to driving down the road while
> depressing the brake pedal at the same time. ??
>
> Can anyone else confirm or deny the explanation by Bill?
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:3FFC6845.4CEE74D7@***.net...
> > It applies the brake to the spinning wheel to force that power to
> > the wheels with traction, much like any farmer has used his
> > hand/emergency brake to become unstuck, since the Model T:
> >
>
http://www.imajeep.com/2001%20Grand/...ive_system.htm
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Danny Boy wrote:
> > >
> > > My jeep has the QTII transfer case, which as most of you already know,
> means
> > > it applies power to front/rear as needed based on wheel slip.
> > > My question is this:
> > > What is the time it takes to engage the front wheels once the rears
> start
> > > slipping? Is it instantaneous, or does it take a bit?
> > > Also, how long does the front axle stay engaged once power has been
> > > transferred to the front?
>
>
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QTII.
The link that L.W. provided does a great job of explaining how the system
works - it's 100% mechanical, essentially combining the concepts of how an
oil pump works and how a clutch slave cylinder works.
As to your question, I would agree with the 1/2 second statement.
Bottom line, it's an awesome 4WD system.
About two years ago, I was launching my SeaDoo off of a boat ramp with my
2WD Dodge Truck. The water level of the lake was low so I had to back far
down the ramp to launch the SeaDoo.
When I retrieved my SeaDoo I backed the Dodge past the end of the concrete
boat ramp onto the soft gravel. It was almost buried to the axle before I
gave up.
I drove my '99 GC down the launch and pulled forward until the two vehicles
were almost "nose to nose."
I then secured a 10,000 pound tow strap to the frame of the Dodge and wound
the strap through the front tow hooks on the GC.
When I started to back the Jeep up the ramp, I could feel the rear tires
bite the concrete ramp for traction. After only minimal wheel slip I could
feel the front suspension compress as the front wheels clawed for traction.
Before the Dodge "popped" out of the hole that I dug, the Jeep managed to
use each of the four wheels to claw for traction on dry concrete - at one
point, all four wheels were turning at the same time.
Sorry for the long post, but I didn't want you to mis-understand how the
system works. If you are still unclear, I would recommend the link in
L.W.'s original post.
As a side note, the Mercedes 4WD system on the ML SUV works exactly as L.W.
describes.
Have a great week and enjoy your new Jeep.
SBH
"Danny Boy" <nomail@4me.com> wrote in message
news:3ffc7afe$1@news.gvsu.edu...
> Applies the brake? As in actually compresses the brake pad against the
> rotor on the wheel that is slipping? This doesn't sound right. If that
> were the case, that would mean the computer would have to control the 4x4
> somehow, and based on the link you provided, it mentions the system is
> mechanical, not electrical. (of course the link discusses the QuadraDrive
> system, not the QTII system. but from what I understand the only
difference
> is the addition of a vari-lock diff in the axles.)
>
> Seems strange if a wheel starts spinning in the mud, the brake would be
> applied to transfer power. Sounds similar to driving down the road while
> depressing the brake pedal at the same time. ??
>
> Can anyone else confirm or deny the explanation by Bill?
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:3FFC6845.4CEE74D7@***.net...
> > It applies the brake to the spinning wheel to force that power to
> > the wheels with traction, much like any farmer has used his
> > hand/emergency brake to become unstuck, since the Model T:
> >
>
http://www.imajeep.com/2001%20Grand/...ive_system.htm
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Danny Boy wrote:
> > >
> > > My jeep has the QTII transfer case, which as most of you already know,
> means
> > > it applies power to front/rear as needed based on wheel slip.
> > > My question is this:
> > > What is the time it takes to engage the front wheels once the rears
> start
> > > slipping? Is it instantaneous, or does it take a bit?
> > > Also, how long does the front axle stay engaged once power has been
> > > transferred to the front?
>
>
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01-07-2004, 10:05 PM
#16
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Re: 04 JGC Quadr-Trac II question
Sorry, but the previous post is wrong - the brake is never applied on the
QTII.
The link that L.W. provided does a great job of explaining how the system
works - it's 100% mechanical, essentially combining the concepts of how an
oil pump works and how a clutch slave cylinder works.
As to your question, I would agree with the 1/2 second statement.
Bottom line, it's an awesome 4WD system.
About two years ago, I was launching my SeaDoo off of a boat ramp with my
2WD Dodge Truck. The water level of the lake was low so I had to back far
down the ramp to launch the SeaDoo.
When I retrieved my SeaDoo I backed the Dodge past the end of the concrete
boat ramp onto the soft gravel. It was almost buried to the axle before I
gave up.
I drove my '99 GC down the launch and pulled forward until the two vehicles
were almost "nose to nose."
I then secured a 10,000 pound tow strap to the frame of the Dodge and wound
the strap through the front tow hooks on the GC.
When I started to back the Jeep up the ramp, I could feel the rear tires
bite the concrete ramp for traction. After only minimal wheel slip I could
feel the front suspension compress as the front wheels clawed for traction.
Before the Dodge "popped" out of the hole that I dug, the Jeep managed to
use each of the four wheels to claw for traction on dry concrete - at one
point, all four wheels were turning at the same time.
Sorry for the long post, but I didn't want you to mis-understand how the
system works. If you are still unclear, I would recommend the link in
L.W.'s original post.
As a side note, the Mercedes 4WD system on the ML SUV works exactly as L.W.
describes.
Have a great week and enjoy your new Jeep.
SBH
"Danny Boy" <nomail@4me.com> wrote in message
news:3ffc7afe$1@news.gvsu.edu...
> Applies the brake? As in actually compresses the brake pad against the
> rotor on the wheel that is slipping? This doesn't sound right. If that
> were the case, that would mean the computer would have to control the 4x4
> somehow, and based on the link you provided, it mentions the system is
> mechanical, not electrical. (of course the link discusses the QuadraDrive
> system, not the QTII system. but from what I understand the only
difference
> is the addition of a vari-lock diff in the axles.)
>
> Seems strange if a wheel starts spinning in the mud, the brake would be
> applied to transfer power. Sounds similar to driving down the road while
> depressing the brake pedal at the same time. ??
>
> Can anyone else confirm or deny the explanation by Bill?
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:3FFC6845.4CEE74D7@***.net...
> > It applies the brake to the spinning wheel to force that power to
> > the wheels with traction, much like any farmer has used his
> > hand/emergency brake to become unstuck, since the Model T:
> >
>
http://www.imajeep.com/2001%20Grand/...ive_system.htm
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Danny Boy wrote:
> > >
> > > My jeep has the QTII transfer case, which as most of you already know,
> means
> > > it applies power to front/rear as needed based on wheel slip.
> > > My question is this:
> > > What is the time it takes to engage the front wheels once the rears
> start
> > > slipping? Is it instantaneous, or does it take a bit?
> > > Also, how long does the front axle stay engaged once power has been
> > > transferred to the front?
>
>
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QTII.
The link that L.W. provided does a great job of explaining how the system
works - it's 100% mechanical, essentially combining the concepts of how an
oil pump works and how a clutch slave cylinder works.
As to your question, I would agree with the 1/2 second statement.
Bottom line, it's an awesome 4WD system.
About two years ago, I was launching my SeaDoo off of a boat ramp with my
2WD Dodge Truck. The water level of the lake was low so I had to back far
down the ramp to launch the SeaDoo.
When I retrieved my SeaDoo I backed the Dodge past the end of the concrete
boat ramp onto the soft gravel. It was almost buried to the axle before I
gave up.
I drove my '99 GC down the launch and pulled forward until the two vehicles
were almost "nose to nose."
I then secured a 10,000 pound tow strap to the frame of the Dodge and wound
the strap through the front tow hooks on the GC.
When I started to back the Jeep up the ramp, I could feel the rear tires
bite the concrete ramp for traction. After only minimal wheel slip I could
feel the front suspension compress as the front wheels clawed for traction.
Before the Dodge "popped" out of the hole that I dug, the Jeep managed to
use each of the four wheels to claw for traction on dry concrete - at one
point, all four wheels were turning at the same time.
Sorry for the long post, but I didn't want you to mis-understand how the
system works. If you are still unclear, I would recommend the link in
L.W.'s original post.
As a side note, the Mercedes 4WD system on the ML SUV works exactly as L.W.
describes.
Have a great week and enjoy your new Jeep.
SBH
"Danny Boy" <nomail@4me.com> wrote in message
news:3ffc7afe$1@news.gvsu.edu...
> Applies the brake? As in actually compresses the brake pad against the
> rotor on the wheel that is slipping? This doesn't sound right. If that
> were the case, that would mean the computer would have to control the 4x4
> somehow, and based on the link you provided, it mentions the system is
> mechanical, not electrical. (of course the link discusses the QuadraDrive
> system, not the QTII system. but from what I understand the only
difference
> is the addition of a vari-lock diff in the axles.)
>
> Seems strange if a wheel starts spinning in the mud, the brake would be
> applied to transfer power. Sounds similar to driving down the road while
> depressing the brake pedal at the same time. ??
>
> Can anyone else confirm or deny the explanation by Bill?
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:3FFC6845.4CEE74D7@***.net...
> > It applies the brake to the spinning wheel to force that power to
> > the wheels with traction, much like any farmer has used his
> > hand/emergency brake to become unstuck, since the Model T:
> >
>
http://www.imajeep.com/2001%20Grand/...ive_system.htm
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Danny Boy wrote:
> > >
> > > My jeep has the QTII transfer case, which as most of you already know,
> means
> > > it applies power to front/rear as needed based on wheel slip.
> > > My question is this:
> > > What is the time it takes to engage the front wheels once the rears
> start
> > > slipping? Is it instantaneous, or does it take a bit?
> > > Also, how long does the front axle stay engaged once power has been
> > > transferred to the front?
>
>
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Re: 04 JGC Quadr-Trac II question
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"Scott B. Hogle" wrote:
>
> Sorry, but the previous post is wrong - the brake is never applied on the
> QTII.
>
> The link that L.W. provided does a great job of explaining how the system
> works - it's 100% mechanical, essentially combining the concepts of how an
> oil pump works and how a clutch slave cylinder works.
>
> As to your question, I would agree with the 1/2 second statement.
>
> Bottom line, it's an awesome 4WD system.
>
> About two years ago, I was launching my SeaDoo off of a boat ramp with my
> 2WD Dodge Truck. The water level of the lake was low so I had to back far
> down the ramp to launch the SeaDoo.
>
> When I retrieved my SeaDoo I backed the Dodge past the end of the concrete
> boat ramp onto the soft gravel. It was almost buried to the axle before I
> gave up.
>
> I drove my '99 GC down the launch and pulled forward until the two vehicles
> were almost "nose to nose."
>
> I then secured a 10,000 pound tow strap to the frame of the Dodge and wound
> the strap through the front tow hooks on the GC.
>
> When I started to back the Jeep up the ramp, I could feel the rear tires
> bite the concrete ramp for traction. After only minimal wheel slip I could
> feel the front suspension compress as the front wheels clawed for traction.
> Before the Dodge "popped" out of the hole that I dug, the Jeep managed to
> use each of the four wheels to claw for traction on dry concrete - at one
> point, all four wheels were turning at the same time.
>
> Sorry for the long post, but I didn't want you to mis-understand how the
> system works. If you are still unclear, I would recommend the link in
> L.W.'s original post.
>
> As a side note, the Mercedes 4WD system on the ML SUV works exactly as L.W.
> describes.
>
> Have a great week and enjoy your new Jeep.
>
> SBH
> "Danny Boy" <nomail@4me.com> wrote in message
> news:3ffc7afe$1@news.gvsu.edu...
> > Applies the brake? As in actually compresses the brake pad against the
> > rotor on the wheel that is slipping? This doesn't sound right. If that
> > were the case, that would mean the computer would have to control the 4x4
> > somehow, and based on the link you provided, it mentions the system is
> > mechanical, not electrical. (of course the link discusses the QuadraDrive
> > system, not the QTII system. but from what I understand the only
> difference
> > is the addition of a vari-lock diff in the axles.)
> >
> > Seems strange if a wheel starts spinning in the mud, the brake would be
> > applied to transfer power. Sounds similar to driving down the road while
> > depressing the brake pedal at the same time. ??
> >
> > Can anyone else confirm or deny the explanation by Bill?
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:3FFC6845.4CEE74D7@***.net...
> > > It applies the brake to the spinning wheel to force that power to
> > > the wheels with traction, much like any farmer has used his
> > > hand/emergency brake to become unstuck, since the Model T:
> > >
> >
> http://www.imajeep.com/2001%20Grand/...ive_system.htm
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > Danny Boy wrote:
> > > >
> > > > My jeep has the QTII transfer case, which as most of you already know,
> > means
> > > > it applies power to front/rear as needed based on wheel slip.
> > > > My question is this:
> > > > What is the time it takes to engage the front wheels once the rears
> > start
> > > > slipping? Is it instantaneous, or does it take a bit?
> > > > Also, how long does the front axle stay engaged once power has been
> > > > transferred to the front?
> >
> >
>
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"Scott B. Hogle" wrote:
>
> Sorry, but the previous post is wrong - the brake is never applied on the
> QTII.
>
> The link that L.W. provided does a great job of explaining how the system
> works - it's 100% mechanical, essentially combining the concepts of how an
> oil pump works and how a clutch slave cylinder works.
>
> As to your question, I would agree with the 1/2 second statement.
>
> Bottom line, it's an awesome 4WD system.
>
> About two years ago, I was launching my SeaDoo off of a boat ramp with my
> 2WD Dodge Truck. The water level of the lake was low so I had to back far
> down the ramp to launch the SeaDoo.
>
> When I retrieved my SeaDoo I backed the Dodge past the end of the concrete
> boat ramp onto the soft gravel. It was almost buried to the axle before I
> gave up.
>
> I drove my '99 GC down the launch and pulled forward until the two vehicles
> were almost "nose to nose."
>
> I then secured a 10,000 pound tow strap to the frame of the Dodge and wound
> the strap through the front tow hooks on the GC.
>
> When I started to back the Jeep up the ramp, I could feel the rear tires
> bite the concrete ramp for traction. After only minimal wheel slip I could
> feel the front suspension compress as the front wheels clawed for traction.
> Before the Dodge "popped" out of the hole that I dug, the Jeep managed to
> use each of the four wheels to claw for traction on dry concrete - at one
> point, all four wheels were turning at the same time.
>
> Sorry for the long post, but I didn't want you to mis-understand how the
> system works. If you are still unclear, I would recommend the link in
> L.W.'s original post.
>
> As a side note, the Mercedes 4WD system on the ML SUV works exactly as L.W.
> describes.
>
> Have a great week and enjoy your new Jeep.
>
> SBH
> "Danny Boy" <nomail@4me.com> wrote in message
> news:3ffc7afe$1@news.gvsu.edu...
> > Applies the brake? As in actually compresses the brake pad against the
> > rotor on the wheel that is slipping? This doesn't sound right. If that
> > were the case, that would mean the computer would have to control the 4x4
> > somehow, and based on the link you provided, it mentions the system is
> > mechanical, not electrical. (of course the link discusses the QuadraDrive
> > system, not the QTII system. but from what I understand the only
> difference
> > is the addition of a vari-lock diff in the axles.)
> >
> > Seems strange if a wheel starts spinning in the mud, the brake would be
> > applied to transfer power. Sounds similar to driving down the road while
> > depressing the brake pedal at the same time. ??
> >
> > Can anyone else confirm or deny the explanation by Bill?
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:3FFC6845.4CEE74D7@***.net...
> > > It applies the brake to the spinning wheel to force that power to
> > > the wheels with traction, much like any farmer has used his
> > > hand/emergency brake to become unstuck, since the Model T:
> > >
> >
> http://www.imajeep.com/2001%20Grand/...ive_system.htm
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > Danny Boy wrote:
> > > >
> > > > My jeep has the QTII transfer case, which as most of you already know,
> > means
> > > > it applies power to front/rear as needed based on wheel slip.
> > > > My question is this:
> > > > What is the time it takes to engage the front wheels once the rears
> > start
> > > > slipping? Is it instantaneous, or does it take a bit?
> > > > Also, how long does the front axle stay engaged once power has been
> > > > transferred to the front?
> >
> >
>
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#18
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Re: 04 JGC Quadr-Trac II question
OK.
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"Scott B. Hogle" wrote:
>
> Sorry, but the previous post is wrong - the brake is never applied on the
> QTII.
>
> The link that L.W. provided does a great job of explaining how the system
> works - it's 100% mechanical, essentially combining the concepts of how an
> oil pump works and how a clutch slave cylinder works.
>
> As to your question, I would agree with the 1/2 second statement.
>
> Bottom line, it's an awesome 4WD system.
>
> About two years ago, I was launching my SeaDoo off of a boat ramp with my
> 2WD Dodge Truck. The water level of the lake was low so I had to back far
> down the ramp to launch the SeaDoo.
>
> When I retrieved my SeaDoo I backed the Dodge past the end of the concrete
> boat ramp onto the soft gravel. It was almost buried to the axle before I
> gave up.
>
> I drove my '99 GC down the launch and pulled forward until the two vehicles
> were almost "nose to nose."
>
> I then secured a 10,000 pound tow strap to the frame of the Dodge and wound
> the strap through the front tow hooks on the GC.
>
> When I started to back the Jeep up the ramp, I could feel the rear tires
> bite the concrete ramp for traction. After only minimal wheel slip I could
> feel the front suspension compress as the front wheels clawed for traction.
> Before the Dodge "popped" out of the hole that I dug, the Jeep managed to
> use each of the four wheels to claw for traction on dry concrete - at one
> point, all four wheels were turning at the same time.
>
> Sorry for the long post, but I didn't want you to mis-understand how the
> system works. If you are still unclear, I would recommend the link in
> L.W.'s original post.
>
> As a side note, the Mercedes 4WD system on the ML SUV works exactly as L.W.
> describes.
>
> Have a great week and enjoy your new Jeep.
>
> SBH
> "Danny Boy" <nomail@4me.com> wrote in message
> news:3ffc7afe$1@news.gvsu.edu...
> > Applies the brake? As in actually compresses the brake pad against the
> > rotor on the wheel that is slipping? This doesn't sound right. If that
> > were the case, that would mean the computer would have to control the 4x4
> > somehow, and based on the link you provided, it mentions the system is
> > mechanical, not electrical. (of course the link discusses the QuadraDrive
> > system, not the QTII system. but from what I understand the only
> difference
> > is the addition of a vari-lock diff in the axles.)
> >
> > Seems strange if a wheel starts spinning in the mud, the brake would be
> > applied to transfer power. Sounds similar to driving down the road while
> > depressing the brake pedal at the same time. ??
> >
> > Can anyone else confirm or deny the explanation by Bill?
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:3FFC6845.4CEE74D7@***.net...
> > > It applies the brake to the spinning wheel to force that power to
> > > the wheels with traction, much like any farmer has used his
> > > hand/emergency brake to become unstuck, since the Model T:
> > >
> >
> http://www.imajeep.com/2001%20Grand/...ive_system.htm
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > Danny Boy wrote:
> > > >
> > > > My jeep has the QTII transfer case, which as most of you already know,
> > means
> > > > it applies power to front/rear as needed based on wheel slip.
> > > > My question is this:
> > > > What is the time it takes to engage the front wheels once the rears
> > start
> > > > slipping? Is it instantaneous, or does it take a bit?
> > > > Also, how long does the front axle stay engaged once power has been
> > > > transferred to the front?
> >
> >
>
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"Scott B. Hogle" wrote:
>
> Sorry, but the previous post is wrong - the brake is never applied on the
> QTII.
>
> The link that L.W. provided does a great job of explaining how the system
> works - it's 100% mechanical, essentially combining the concepts of how an
> oil pump works and how a clutch slave cylinder works.
>
> As to your question, I would agree with the 1/2 second statement.
>
> Bottom line, it's an awesome 4WD system.
>
> About two years ago, I was launching my SeaDoo off of a boat ramp with my
> 2WD Dodge Truck. The water level of the lake was low so I had to back far
> down the ramp to launch the SeaDoo.
>
> When I retrieved my SeaDoo I backed the Dodge past the end of the concrete
> boat ramp onto the soft gravel. It was almost buried to the axle before I
> gave up.
>
> I drove my '99 GC down the launch and pulled forward until the two vehicles
> were almost "nose to nose."
>
> I then secured a 10,000 pound tow strap to the frame of the Dodge and wound
> the strap through the front tow hooks on the GC.
>
> When I started to back the Jeep up the ramp, I could feel the rear tires
> bite the concrete ramp for traction. After only minimal wheel slip I could
> feel the front suspension compress as the front wheels clawed for traction.
> Before the Dodge "popped" out of the hole that I dug, the Jeep managed to
> use each of the four wheels to claw for traction on dry concrete - at one
> point, all four wheels were turning at the same time.
>
> Sorry for the long post, but I didn't want you to mis-understand how the
> system works. If you are still unclear, I would recommend the link in
> L.W.'s original post.
>
> As a side note, the Mercedes 4WD system on the ML SUV works exactly as L.W.
> describes.
>
> Have a great week and enjoy your new Jeep.
>
> SBH
> "Danny Boy" <nomail@4me.com> wrote in message
> news:3ffc7afe$1@news.gvsu.edu...
> > Applies the brake? As in actually compresses the brake pad against the
> > rotor on the wheel that is slipping? This doesn't sound right. If that
> > were the case, that would mean the computer would have to control the 4x4
> > somehow, and based on the link you provided, it mentions the system is
> > mechanical, not electrical. (of course the link discusses the QuadraDrive
> > system, not the QTII system. but from what I understand the only
> difference
> > is the addition of a vari-lock diff in the axles.)
> >
> > Seems strange if a wheel starts spinning in the mud, the brake would be
> > applied to transfer power. Sounds similar to driving down the road while
> > depressing the brake pedal at the same time. ??
> >
> > Can anyone else confirm or deny the explanation by Bill?
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:3FFC6845.4CEE74D7@***.net...
> > > It applies the brake to the spinning wheel to force that power to
> > > the wheels with traction, much like any farmer has used his
> > > hand/emergency brake to become unstuck, since the Model T:
> > >
> >
> http://www.imajeep.com/2001%20Grand/...ive_system.htm
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > Danny Boy wrote:
> > > >
> > > > My jeep has the QTII transfer case, which as most of you already know,
> > means
> > > > it applies power to front/rear as needed based on wheel slip.
> > > > My question is this:
> > > > What is the time it takes to engage the front wheels once the rears
> > start
> > > > slipping? Is it instantaneous, or does it take a bit?
> > > > Also, how long does the front axle stay engaged once power has been
> > > > transferred to the front?
> >
> >
>
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#19
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Re: 04 JGC Quadr-Trac II question
OK.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"Scott B. Hogle" wrote:
>
> Sorry, but the previous post is wrong - the brake is never applied on the
> QTII.
>
> The link that L.W. provided does a great job of explaining how the system
> works - it's 100% mechanical, essentially combining the concepts of how an
> oil pump works and how a clutch slave cylinder works.
>
> As to your question, I would agree with the 1/2 second statement.
>
> Bottom line, it's an awesome 4WD system.
>
> About two years ago, I was launching my SeaDoo off of a boat ramp with my
> 2WD Dodge Truck. The water level of the lake was low so I had to back far
> down the ramp to launch the SeaDoo.
>
> When I retrieved my SeaDoo I backed the Dodge past the end of the concrete
> boat ramp onto the soft gravel. It was almost buried to the axle before I
> gave up.
>
> I drove my '99 GC down the launch and pulled forward until the two vehicles
> were almost "nose to nose."
>
> I then secured a 10,000 pound tow strap to the frame of the Dodge and wound
> the strap through the front tow hooks on the GC.
>
> When I started to back the Jeep up the ramp, I could feel the rear tires
> bite the concrete ramp for traction. After only minimal wheel slip I could
> feel the front suspension compress as the front wheels clawed for traction.
> Before the Dodge "popped" out of the hole that I dug, the Jeep managed to
> use each of the four wheels to claw for traction on dry concrete - at one
> point, all four wheels were turning at the same time.
>
> Sorry for the long post, but I didn't want you to mis-understand how the
> system works. If you are still unclear, I would recommend the link in
> L.W.'s original post.
>
> As a side note, the Mercedes 4WD system on the ML SUV works exactly as L.W.
> describes.
>
> Have a great week and enjoy your new Jeep.
>
> SBH
> "Danny Boy" <nomail@4me.com> wrote in message
> news:3ffc7afe$1@news.gvsu.edu...
> > Applies the brake? As in actually compresses the brake pad against the
> > rotor on the wheel that is slipping? This doesn't sound right. If that
> > were the case, that would mean the computer would have to control the 4x4
> > somehow, and based on the link you provided, it mentions the system is
> > mechanical, not electrical. (of course the link discusses the QuadraDrive
> > system, not the QTII system. but from what I understand the only
> difference
> > is the addition of a vari-lock diff in the axles.)
> >
> > Seems strange if a wheel starts spinning in the mud, the brake would be
> > applied to transfer power. Sounds similar to driving down the road while
> > depressing the brake pedal at the same time. ??
> >
> > Can anyone else confirm or deny the explanation by Bill?
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:3FFC6845.4CEE74D7@***.net...
> > > It applies the brake to the spinning wheel to force that power to
> > > the wheels with traction, much like any farmer has used his
> > > hand/emergency brake to become unstuck, since the Model T:
> > >
> >
> http://www.imajeep.com/2001%20Grand/...ive_system.htm
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > Danny Boy wrote:
> > > >
> > > > My jeep has the QTII transfer case, which as most of you already know,
> > means
> > > > it applies power to front/rear as needed based on wheel slip.
> > > > My question is this:
> > > > What is the time it takes to engage the front wheels once the rears
> > start
> > > > slipping? Is it instantaneous, or does it take a bit?
> > > > Also, how long does the front axle stay engaged once power has been
> > > > transferred to the front?
> >
> >
>
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"Scott B. Hogle" wrote:
>
> Sorry, but the previous post is wrong - the brake is never applied on the
> QTII.
>
> The link that L.W. provided does a great job of explaining how the system
> works - it's 100% mechanical, essentially combining the concepts of how an
> oil pump works and how a clutch slave cylinder works.
>
> As to your question, I would agree with the 1/2 second statement.
>
> Bottom line, it's an awesome 4WD system.
>
> About two years ago, I was launching my SeaDoo off of a boat ramp with my
> 2WD Dodge Truck. The water level of the lake was low so I had to back far
> down the ramp to launch the SeaDoo.
>
> When I retrieved my SeaDoo I backed the Dodge past the end of the concrete
> boat ramp onto the soft gravel. It was almost buried to the axle before I
> gave up.
>
> I drove my '99 GC down the launch and pulled forward until the two vehicles
> were almost "nose to nose."
>
> I then secured a 10,000 pound tow strap to the frame of the Dodge and wound
> the strap through the front tow hooks on the GC.
>
> When I started to back the Jeep up the ramp, I could feel the rear tires
> bite the concrete ramp for traction. After only minimal wheel slip I could
> feel the front suspension compress as the front wheels clawed for traction.
> Before the Dodge "popped" out of the hole that I dug, the Jeep managed to
> use each of the four wheels to claw for traction on dry concrete - at one
> point, all four wheels were turning at the same time.
>
> Sorry for the long post, but I didn't want you to mis-understand how the
> system works. If you are still unclear, I would recommend the link in
> L.W.'s original post.
>
> As a side note, the Mercedes 4WD system on the ML SUV works exactly as L.W.
> describes.
>
> Have a great week and enjoy your new Jeep.
>
> SBH
> "Danny Boy" <nomail@4me.com> wrote in message
> news:3ffc7afe$1@news.gvsu.edu...
> > Applies the brake? As in actually compresses the brake pad against the
> > rotor on the wheel that is slipping? This doesn't sound right. If that
> > were the case, that would mean the computer would have to control the 4x4
> > somehow, and based on the link you provided, it mentions the system is
> > mechanical, not electrical. (of course the link discusses the QuadraDrive
> > system, not the QTII system. but from what I understand the only
> difference
> > is the addition of a vari-lock diff in the axles.)
> >
> > Seems strange if a wheel starts spinning in the mud, the brake would be
> > applied to transfer power. Sounds similar to driving down the road while
> > depressing the brake pedal at the same time. ??
> >
> > Can anyone else confirm or deny the explanation by Bill?
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:3FFC6845.4CEE74D7@***.net...
> > > It applies the brake to the spinning wheel to force that power to
> > > the wheels with traction, much like any farmer has used his
> > > hand/emergency brake to become unstuck, since the Model T:
> > >
> >
> http://www.imajeep.com/2001%20Grand/...ive_system.htm
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > Danny Boy wrote:
> > > >
> > > > My jeep has the QTII transfer case, which as most of you already know,
> > means
> > > > it applies power to front/rear as needed based on wheel slip.
> > > > My question is this:
> > > > What is the time it takes to engage the front wheels once the rears
> > start
> > > > slipping? Is it instantaneous, or does it take a bit?
> > > > Also, how long does the front axle stay engaged once power has been
> > > > transferred to the front?
> >
> >
>
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01-08-2004, 03:09 AM
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Re: 04 JGC Quadr-Trac II question
You are correct your Cherokee may have the Vari-Lok option, but not
Traction Control, as I thought.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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Danny Boy wrote:
>
> Applies the brake? As in actually compresses the brake pad against the
> rotor on the wheel that is slipping? This doesn't sound right. If that
> were the case, that would mean the computer would have to control the 4x4
> somehow, and based on the link you provided, it mentions the system is
> mechanical, not electrical. (of course the link discusses the QuadraDrive
> system, not the QTII system. but from what I understand the only difference
> is the addition of a vari-lock diff in the axles.)
>
> Seems strange if a wheel starts spinning in the mud, the brake would be
> applied to transfer power. Sounds similar to driving down the road while
> depressing the brake pedal at the same time. ??
>
> Can anyone else confirm or deny the explanation by Bill?
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:3FFC6845.4CEE74D7@***.net...
> > It applies the brake to the spinning wheel to force that power to
> > the wheels with traction, much like any farmer has used his
> > hand/emergency brake to become unstuck, since the Model T:
> >
> http://www.imajeep.com/2001%20Grand/...ive_system.htm
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Danny Boy wrote:
> > >
> > > My jeep has the QTII transfer case, which as most of you already know,
> means
> > > it applies power to front/rear as needed based on wheel slip.
> > > My question is this:
> > > What is the time it takes to engage the front wheels once the rears
> start
> > > slipping? Is it instantaneous, or does it take a bit?
> > > Also, how long does the front axle stay engaged once power has been
> > > transferred to the front?
Traction Control, as I thought.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Danny Boy wrote:
>
> Applies the brake? As in actually compresses the brake pad against the
> rotor on the wheel that is slipping? This doesn't sound right. If that
> were the case, that would mean the computer would have to control the 4x4
> somehow, and based on the link you provided, it mentions the system is
> mechanical, not electrical. (of course the link discusses the QuadraDrive
> system, not the QTII system. but from what I understand the only difference
> is the addition of a vari-lock diff in the axles.)
>
> Seems strange if a wheel starts spinning in the mud, the brake would be
> applied to transfer power. Sounds similar to driving down the road while
> depressing the brake pedal at the same time. ??
>
> Can anyone else confirm or deny the explanation by Bill?
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:3FFC6845.4CEE74D7@***.net...
> > It applies the brake to the spinning wheel to force that power to
> > the wheels with traction, much like any farmer has used his
> > hand/emergency brake to become unstuck, since the Model T:
> >
> http://www.imajeep.com/2001%20Grand/...ive_system.htm
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Danny Boy wrote:
> > >
> > > My jeep has the QTII transfer case, which as most of you already know,
> means
> > > it applies power to front/rear as needed based on wheel slip.
> > > My question is this:
> > > What is the time it takes to engage the front wheels once the rears
> start
> > > slipping? Is it instantaneous, or does it take a bit?
> > > Also, how long does the front axle stay engaged once power has been
> > > transferred to the front?