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twaldron 09-03-2007 02:22 PM

Re: '04 Grand Cherokee Lurch on Stop...
 
As a follow up to a follow up, I tried this procedure and my 'bump' in
the XJ drive train went away. Smooth starts and stops now. Cheap fix,
too. Thanks everyone.

tw


googlegroups@gersic.com wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Just wanted to thank all of you for your help with my "bump stop"
> problem. I brought it back to the dealer (it was under a 30-day
> warranty), who told me that nothing was wrong, but decided to grease
> the rear driveshaft slip yoke splines myself. Fixed the problem.
>
> Thanks much,
> Tom
>
>
> On Jul 31, 6:29 am, AJ <So...@nomail.com> wrote:
>
>>I recently had the bump/stop problem fixed on an '04 JGC 4.0/Selectrac I
>>bought used and so far so good. The TSB summary I saw on the KJ website
>>applies to V8 models and talks about replacing the driveshaft but it
>>also contains a Note that on 4.0's the splines should be greased. The
>>service writer I talked to said it was very common, doesn't hurt
>>anything, and might come back eventually. They pulled the driveshaft and
>>greased it in about half an hour. Mine is still under the 3/36 warranty
>>so I don't know if the powertrain warranty covers it.
>>
>>Mine would only do it after a delay or on acceleration after very gentle
>>stops, most of the time it happened as the rear end settled right at the
>>end of a stop. One way to confirm it's the driveshaft is put it in
>>neutral before you stop and see if it goes away. The service writer told
>>me a similar problem is sometimes caused by a bad ball joint between the
>>upper control arm and the top of the differential.
>>
>>Also FWIW, there's a TSB on the '05 model that too much grease can
>>accumulate in the boot and cause a driveshaft imbalance condition,
>>something to remember if you ever fix it yourself.
>>
>>In article <1185762014.273108.163...@x35g2000prf.googlegroups .com>,
>>googlegro...@gersic.com says...
>>
>>
>>>Hi all,

>>
>>>I just bought an '04 JGC 4.0 to replace my '97 JGC 4.0. After I got
>>>home from the dealer, I started noticing that sometimes when I stop,
>>>as soon as I come to a full and complete stop, I get an extra little
>>>lurch / bump. It's somewhat similar to the "bump stop" described in
>>>TSB 030400, but I don't think that's it...partially because it's an
>>>'04, which isn't covered under that TSB, and partially because it
>>>happens immediately upon stopping, not a few seconds after, and it
>>>never happens when I'm accelerating.

>>
>>>Anybody have any idea what this could be? If it's powertrain-related,
>>>I have a 30-day, 3k mile warranty that will get it fixed, but it would
>>>help to have a good idea what the problem is when I go back to the
>>>dealer, so they don't just tell me it's not any of the powertrain
>>>components, and send me home...

>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>Tom

>
>
>


twaldron 09-03-2007 02:22 PM

Re: '04 Grand Cherokee Lurch on Stop...
 
As a follow up to a follow up, I tried this procedure and my 'bump' in
the XJ drive train went away. Smooth starts and stops now. Cheap fix,
too. Thanks everyone.

tw


googlegroups@gersic.com wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Just wanted to thank all of you for your help with my "bump stop"
> problem. I brought it back to the dealer (it was under a 30-day
> warranty), who told me that nothing was wrong, but decided to grease
> the rear driveshaft slip yoke splines myself. Fixed the problem.
>
> Thanks much,
> Tom
>
>
> On Jul 31, 6:29 am, AJ <So...@nomail.com> wrote:
>
>>I recently had the bump/stop problem fixed on an '04 JGC 4.0/Selectrac I
>>bought used and so far so good. The TSB summary I saw on the KJ website
>>applies to V8 models and talks about replacing the driveshaft but it
>>also contains a Note that on 4.0's the splines should be greased. The
>>service writer I talked to said it was very common, doesn't hurt
>>anything, and might come back eventually. They pulled the driveshaft and
>>greased it in about half an hour. Mine is still under the 3/36 warranty
>>so I don't know if the powertrain warranty covers it.
>>
>>Mine would only do it after a delay or on acceleration after very gentle
>>stops, most of the time it happened as the rear end settled right at the
>>end of a stop. One way to confirm it's the driveshaft is put it in
>>neutral before you stop and see if it goes away. The service writer told
>>me a similar problem is sometimes caused by a bad ball joint between the
>>upper control arm and the top of the differential.
>>
>>Also FWIW, there's a TSB on the '05 model that too much grease can
>>accumulate in the boot and cause a driveshaft imbalance condition,
>>something to remember if you ever fix it yourself.
>>
>>In article <1185762014.273108.163...@x35g2000prf.googlegroups .com>,
>>googlegro...@gersic.com says...
>>
>>
>>>Hi all,

>>
>>>I just bought an '04 JGC 4.0 to replace my '97 JGC 4.0. After I got
>>>home from the dealer, I started noticing that sometimes when I stop,
>>>as soon as I come to a full and complete stop, I get an extra little
>>>lurch / bump. It's somewhat similar to the "bump stop" described in
>>>TSB 030400, but I don't think that's it...partially because it's an
>>>'04, which isn't covered under that TSB, and partially because it
>>>happens immediately upon stopping, not a few seconds after, and it
>>>never happens when I'm accelerating.

>>
>>>Anybody have any idea what this could be? If it's powertrain-related,
>>>I have a 30-day, 3k mile warranty that will get it fixed, but it would
>>>help to have a good idea what the problem is when I go back to the
>>>dealer, so they don't just tell me it's not any of the powertrain
>>>components, and send me home...

>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>Tom

>
>
>


twaldron 09-03-2007 02:22 PM

Re: '04 Grand Cherokee Lurch on Stop...
 
As a follow up to a follow up, I tried this procedure and my 'bump' in
the XJ drive train went away. Smooth starts and stops now. Cheap fix,
too. Thanks everyone.

tw


googlegroups@gersic.com wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Just wanted to thank all of you for your help with my "bump stop"
> problem. I brought it back to the dealer (it was under a 30-day
> warranty), who told me that nothing was wrong, but decided to grease
> the rear driveshaft slip yoke splines myself. Fixed the problem.
>
> Thanks much,
> Tom
>
>
> On Jul 31, 6:29 am, AJ <So...@nomail.com> wrote:
>
>>I recently had the bump/stop problem fixed on an '04 JGC 4.0/Selectrac I
>>bought used and so far so good. The TSB summary I saw on the KJ website
>>applies to V8 models and talks about replacing the driveshaft but it
>>also contains a Note that on 4.0's the splines should be greased. The
>>service writer I talked to said it was very common, doesn't hurt
>>anything, and might come back eventually. They pulled the driveshaft and
>>greased it in about half an hour. Mine is still under the 3/36 warranty
>>so I don't know if the powertrain warranty covers it.
>>
>>Mine would only do it after a delay or on acceleration after very gentle
>>stops, most of the time it happened as the rear end settled right at the
>>end of a stop. One way to confirm it's the driveshaft is put it in
>>neutral before you stop and see if it goes away. The service writer told
>>me a similar problem is sometimes caused by a bad ball joint between the
>>upper control arm and the top of the differential.
>>
>>Also FWIW, there's a TSB on the '05 model that too much grease can
>>accumulate in the boot and cause a driveshaft imbalance condition,
>>something to remember if you ever fix it yourself.
>>
>>In article <1185762014.273108.163...@x35g2000prf.googlegroups .com>,
>>googlegro...@gersic.com says...
>>
>>
>>>Hi all,

>>
>>>I just bought an '04 JGC 4.0 to replace my '97 JGC 4.0. After I got
>>>home from the dealer, I started noticing that sometimes when I stop,
>>>as soon as I come to a full and complete stop, I get an extra little
>>>lurch / bump. It's somewhat similar to the "bump stop" described in
>>>TSB 030400, but I don't think that's it...partially because it's an
>>>'04, which isn't covered under that TSB, and partially because it
>>>happens immediately upon stopping, not a few seconds after, and it
>>>never happens when I'm accelerating.

>>
>>>Anybody have any idea what this could be? If it's powertrain-related,
>>>I have a 30-day, 3k mile warranty that will get it fixed, but it would
>>>help to have a good idea what the problem is when I go back to the
>>>dealer, so they don't just tell me it's not any of the powertrain
>>>components, and send me home...

>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>Tom

>
>
>


philthy 09-09-2007 04:51 PM

Re: '04 Grand Cherokee Lurch on Stop...
 
there was a tsb for a new driveshaft for that same issue

twaldron wrote:

> As a follow up to a follow up, I tried this procedure and my 'bump' in
> the XJ drive train went away. Smooth starts and stops now. Cheap fix,
> too. Thanks everyone.
>
> tw
>
> googlegroups@gersic.com wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Just wanted to thank all of you for your help with my "bump stop"
> > problem. I brought it back to the dealer (it was under a 30-day
> > warranty), who told me that nothing was wrong, but decided to grease
> > the rear driveshaft slip yoke splines myself. Fixed the problem.
> >
> > Thanks much,
> > Tom
> >
> >
> > On Jul 31, 6:29 am, AJ <So...@nomail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>I recently had the bump/stop problem fixed on an '04 JGC 4.0/Selectrac I
> >>bought used and so far so good. The TSB summary I saw on the KJ website
> >>applies to V8 models and talks about replacing the driveshaft but it
> >>also contains a Note that on 4.0's the splines should be greased. The
> >>service writer I talked to said it was very common, doesn't hurt
> >>anything, and might come back eventually. They pulled the driveshaft and
> >>greased it in about half an hour. Mine is still under the 3/36 warranty
> >>so I don't know if the powertrain warranty covers it.
> >>
> >>Mine would only do it after a delay or on acceleration after very gentle
> >>stops, most of the time it happened as the rear end settled right at the
> >>end of a stop. One way to confirm it's the driveshaft is put it in
> >>neutral before you stop and see if it goes away. The service writer told
> >>me a similar problem is sometimes caused by a bad ball joint between the
> >>upper control arm and the top of the differential.
> >>
> >>Also FWIW, there's a TSB on the '05 model that too much grease can
> >>accumulate in the boot and cause a driveshaft imbalance condition,
> >>something to remember if you ever fix it yourself.
> >>
> >>In article <1185762014.273108.163...@x35g2000prf.googlegroups .com>,
> >>googlegro...@gersic.com says...
> >>
> >>
> >>>Hi all,
> >>
> >>>I just bought an '04 JGC 4.0 to replace my '97 JGC 4.0. After I got
> >>>home from the dealer, I started noticing that sometimes when I stop,
> >>>as soon as I come to a full and complete stop, I get an extra little
> >>>lurch / bump. It's somewhat similar to the "bump stop" described in
> >>>TSB 030400, but I don't think that's it...partially because it's an
> >>>'04, which isn't covered under that TSB, and partially because it
> >>>happens immediately upon stopping, not a few seconds after, and it
> >>>never happens when I'm accelerating.
> >>
> >>>Anybody have any idea what this could be? If it's powertrain-related,
> >>>I have a 30-day, 3k mile warranty that will get it fixed, but it would
> >>>help to have a good idea what the problem is when I go back to the
> >>>dealer, so they don't just tell me it's not any of the powertrain
> >>>components, and send me home...
> >>
> >>>Thanks,
> >>>Tom

> >
> >
> >



philthy 09-09-2007 04:51 PM

Re: '04 Grand Cherokee Lurch on Stop...
 
there was a tsb for a new driveshaft for that same issue

twaldron wrote:

> As a follow up to a follow up, I tried this procedure and my 'bump' in
> the XJ drive train went away. Smooth starts and stops now. Cheap fix,
> too. Thanks everyone.
>
> tw
>
> googlegroups@gersic.com wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Just wanted to thank all of you for your help with my "bump stop"
> > problem. I brought it back to the dealer (it was under a 30-day
> > warranty), who told me that nothing was wrong, but decided to grease
> > the rear driveshaft slip yoke splines myself. Fixed the problem.
> >
> > Thanks much,
> > Tom
> >
> >
> > On Jul 31, 6:29 am, AJ <So...@nomail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>I recently had the bump/stop problem fixed on an '04 JGC 4.0/Selectrac I
> >>bought used and so far so good. The TSB summary I saw on the KJ website
> >>applies to V8 models and talks about replacing the driveshaft but it
> >>also contains a Note that on 4.0's the splines should be greased. The
> >>service writer I talked to said it was very common, doesn't hurt
> >>anything, and might come back eventually. They pulled the driveshaft and
> >>greased it in about half an hour. Mine is still under the 3/36 warranty
> >>so I don't know if the powertrain warranty covers it.
> >>
> >>Mine would only do it after a delay or on acceleration after very gentle
> >>stops, most of the time it happened as the rear end settled right at the
> >>end of a stop. One way to confirm it's the driveshaft is put it in
> >>neutral before you stop and see if it goes away. The service writer told
> >>me a similar problem is sometimes caused by a bad ball joint between the
> >>upper control arm and the top of the differential.
> >>
> >>Also FWIW, there's a TSB on the '05 model that too much grease can
> >>accumulate in the boot and cause a driveshaft imbalance condition,
> >>something to remember if you ever fix it yourself.
> >>
> >>In article <1185762014.273108.163...@x35g2000prf.googlegroups .com>,
> >>googlegro...@gersic.com says...
> >>
> >>
> >>>Hi all,
> >>
> >>>I just bought an '04 JGC 4.0 to replace my '97 JGC 4.0. After I got
> >>>home from the dealer, I started noticing that sometimes when I stop,
> >>>as soon as I come to a full and complete stop, I get an extra little
> >>>lurch / bump. It's somewhat similar to the "bump stop" described in
> >>>TSB 030400, but I don't think that's it...partially because it's an
> >>>'04, which isn't covered under that TSB, and partially because it
> >>>happens immediately upon stopping, not a few seconds after, and it
> >>>never happens when I'm accelerating.
> >>
> >>>Anybody have any idea what this could be? If it's powertrain-related,
> >>>I have a 30-day, 3k mile warranty that will get it fixed, but it would
> >>>help to have a good idea what the problem is when I go back to the
> >>>dealer, so they don't just tell me it's not any of the powertrain
> >>>components, and send me home...
> >>
> >>>Thanks,
> >>>Tom

> >
> >
> >



philthy 09-09-2007 04:51 PM

Re: '04 Grand Cherokee Lurch on Stop...
 
there was a tsb for a new driveshaft for that same issue

twaldron wrote:

> As a follow up to a follow up, I tried this procedure and my 'bump' in
> the XJ drive train went away. Smooth starts and stops now. Cheap fix,
> too. Thanks everyone.
>
> tw
>
> googlegroups@gersic.com wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Just wanted to thank all of you for your help with my "bump stop"
> > problem. I brought it back to the dealer (it was under a 30-day
> > warranty), who told me that nothing was wrong, but decided to grease
> > the rear driveshaft slip yoke splines myself. Fixed the problem.
> >
> > Thanks much,
> > Tom
> >
> >
> > On Jul 31, 6:29 am, AJ <So...@nomail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>I recently had the bump/stop problem fixed on an '04 JGC 4.0/Selectrac I
> >>bought used and so far so good. The TSB summary I saw on the KJ website
> >>applies to V8 models and talks about replacing the driveshaft but it
> >>also contains a Note that on 4.0's the splines should be greased. The
> >>service writer I talked to said it was very common, doesn't hurt
> >>anything, and might come back eventually. They pulled the driveshaft and
> >>greased it in about half an hour. Mine is still under the 3/36 warranty
> >>so I don't know if the powertrain warranty covers it.
> >>
> >>Mine would only do it after a delay or on acceleration after very gentle
> >>stops, most of the time it happened as the rear end settled right at the
> >>end of a stop. One way to confirm it's the driveshaft is put it in
> >>neutral before you stop and see if it goes away. The service writer told
> >>me a similar problem is sometimes caused by a bad ball joint between the
> >>upper control arm and the top of the differential.
> >>
> >>Also FWIW, there's a TSB on the '05 model that too much grease can
> >>accumulate in the boot and cause a driveshaft imbalance condition,
> >>something to remember if you ever fix it yourself.
> >>
> >>In article <1185762014.273108.163...@x35g2000prf.googlegroups .com>,
> >>googlegro...@gersic.com says...
> >>
> >>
> >>>Hi all,
> >>
> >>>I just bought an '04 JGC 4.0 to replace my '97 JGC 4.0. After I got
> >>>home from the dealer, I started noticing that sometimes when I stop,
> >>>as soon as I come to a full and complete stop, I get an extra little
> >>>lurch / bump. It's somewhat similar to the "bump stop" described in
> >>>TSB 030400, but I don't think that's it...partially because it's an
> >>>'04, which isn't covered under that TSB, and partially because it
> >>>happens immediately upon stopping, not a few seconds after, and it
> >>>never happens when I'm accelerating.
> >>
> >>>Anybody have any idea what this could be? If it's powertrain-related,
> >>>I have a 30-day, 3k mile warranty that will get it fixed, but it would
> >>>help to have a good idea what the problem is when I go back to the
> >>>dealer, so they don't just tell me it's not any of the powertrain
> >>>components, and send me home...
> >>
> >>>Thanks,
> >>>Tom

> >
> >
> >



philthy 09-09-2007 04:51 PM

Re: '04 Grand Cherokee Lurch on Stop...
 
there was a tsb for a new driveshaft for that same issue

twaldron wrote:

> As a follow up to a follow up, I tried this procedure and my 'bump' in
> the XJ drive train went away. Smooth starts and stops now. Cheap fix,
> too. Thanks everyone.
>
> tw
>
> googlegroups@gersic.com wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Just wanted to thank all of you for your help with my "bump stop"
> > problem. I brought it back to the dealer (it was under a 30-day
> > warranty), who told me that nothing was wrong, but decided to grease
> > the rear driveshaft slip yoke splines myself. Fixed the problem.
> >
> > Thanks much,
> > Tom
> >
> >
> > On Jul 31, 6:29 am, AJ <So...@nomail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>I recently had the bump/stop problem fixed on an '04 JGC 4.0/Selectrac I
> >>bought used and so far so good. The TSB summary I saw on the KJ website
> >>applies to V8 models and talks about replacing the driveshaft but it
> >>also contains a Note that on 4.0's the splines should be greased. The
> >>service writer I talked to said it was very common, doesn't hurt
> >>anything, and might come back eventually. They pulled the driveshaft and
> >>greased it in about half an hour. Mine is still under the 3/36 warranty
> >>so I don't know if the powertrain warranty covers it.
> >>
> >>Mine would only do it after a delay or on acceleration after very gentle
> >>stops, most of the time it happened as the rear end settled right at the
> >>end of a stop. One way to confirm it's the driveshaft is put it in
> >>neutral before you stop and see if it goes away. The service writer told
> >>me a similar problem is sometimes caused by a bad ball joint between the
> >>upper control arm and the top of the differential.
> >>
> >>Also FWIW, there's a TSB on the '05 model that too much grease can
> >>accumulate in the boot and cause a driveshaft imbalance condition,
> >>something to remember if you ever fix it yourself.
> >>
> >>In article <1185762014.273108.163...@x35g2000prf.googlegroups .com>,
> >>googlegro...@gersic.com says...
> >>
> >>
> >>>Hi all,
> >>
> >>>I just bought an '04 JGC 4.0 to replace my '97 JGC 4.0. After I got
> >>>home from the dealer, I started noticing that sometimes when I stop,
> >>>as soon as I come to a full and complete stop, I get an extra little
> >>>lurch / bump. It's somewhat similar to the "bump stop" described in
> >>>TSB 030400, but I don't think that's it...partially because it's an
> >>>'04, which isn't covered under that TSB, and partially because it
> >>>happens immediately upon stopping, not a few seconds after, and it
> >>>never happens when I'm accelerating.
> >>
> >>>Anybody have any idea what this could be? If it's powertrain-related,
> >>>I have a 30-day, 3k mile warranty that will get it fixed, but it would
> >>>help to have a good idea what the problem is when I go back to the
> >>>dealer, so they don't just tell me it's not any of the powertrain
> >>>components, and send me home...
> >>
> >>>Thanks,
> >>>Tom

> >
> >
> >




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