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googlegroups@gersic.com 08-25-2007 05:38 PM

Re: '04 Grand Cherokee Lurch on Stop...
 
Hi all,

Just wanted to thank all of you for your help with my "bump stop"
problem. I brought it back to the dealer (it was under a 30-day
warranty), who told me that nothing was wrong, but decided to grease
the rear driveshaft slip yoke splines myself. Fixed the problem.

Thanks much,
Tom


On Jul 31, 6:29 am, AJ <So...@nomail.com> wrote:
> I recently had the bump/stop problem fixed on an '04 JGC 4.0/Selectrac I
> bought used and so far so good. The TSB summary I saw on the KJ website
> applies to V8 models and talks about replacing the driveshaft but it
> also contains a Note that on 4.0's the splines should be greased. The
> service writer I talked to said it was very common, doesn't hurt
> anything, and might come back eventually. They pulled the driveshaft and
> greased it in about half an hour. Mine is still under the 3/36 warranty
> so I don't know if the powertrain warranty covers it.
>
> Mine would only do it after a delay or on acceleration after very gentle
> stops, most of the time it happened as the rear end settled right at the
> end of a stop. One way to confirm it's the driveshaft is put it in
> neutral before you stop and see if it goes away. The service writer told
> me a similar problem is sometimes caused by a bad ball joint between the
> upper control arm and the top of the differential.
>
> Also FWIW, there's a TSB on the '05 model that too much grease can
> accumulate in the boot and cause a driveshaft imbalance condition,
> something to remember if you ever fix it yourself.
>
> In article <1185762014.273108.163...@x35g2000prf.googlegroups .com>,
> googlegro...@gersic.com says...
>
> > Hi all,

>
> > I just bought an '04 JGC 4.0 to replace my '97 JGC 4.0. After I got
> > home from the dealer, I started noticing that sometimes when I stop,
> > as soon as I come to a full and complete stop, I get an extra little
> > lurch / bump. It's somewhat similar to the "bump stop" described in
> > TSB 030400, but I don't think that's it...partially because it's an
> > '04, which isn't covered under that TSB, and partially because it
> > happens immediately upon stopping, not a few seconds after, and it
> > never happens when I'm accelerating.

>
> > Anybody have any idea what this could be? If it's powertrain-related,
> > I have a 30-day, 3k mile warranty that will get it fixed, but it would
> > help to have a good idea what the problem is when I go back to the
> > dealer, so they don't just tell me it's not any of the powertrain
> > components, and send me home...

>
> > Thanks,
> > Tom




Dave Milne 08-26-2007 04:01 AM

Re: '04 Grand Cherokee Lurch on Stop...
 
thanks for letting us know.

Dave Milne, Scotland

<googlegroups@gersic.com> wrote in message
news:1188077927.985634.207840@g4g2000hsf.googlegro ups.com...
> Hi all,
>
> Just wanted to thank all of you for your help with my "bump stop"
> problem. I brought it back to the dealer (it was under a 30-day
> warranty), who told me that nothing was wrong, but decided to grease
> the rear driveshaft slip yoke splines myself. Fixed the problem.
>
> Thanks much,
> Tom
>
>
> On Jul 31, 6:29 am, AJ <So...@nomail.com> wrote:
> > I recently had the bump/stop problem fixed on an '04 JGC 4.0/Selectrac I
> > bought used and so far so good. The TSB summary I saw on the KJ website
> > applies to V8 models and talks about replacing the driveshaft but it
> > also contains a Note that on 4.0's the splines should be greased. The
> > service writer I talked to said it was very common, doesn't hurt
> > anything, and might come back eventually. They pulled the driveshaft and
> > greased it in about half an hour. Mine is still under the 3/36 warranty
> > so I don't know if the powertrain warranty covers it.
> >
> > Mine would only do it after a delay or on acceleration after very gentle
> > stops, most of the time it happened as the rear end settled right at the
> > end of a stop. One way to confirm it's the driveshaft is put it in
> > neutral before you stop and see if it goes away. The service writer told
> > me a similar problem is sometimes caused by a bad ball joint between the
> > upper control arm and the top of the differential.
> >
> > Also FWIW, there's a TSB on the '05 model that too much grease can
> > accumulate in the boot and cause a driveshaft imbalance condition,
> > something to remember if you ever fix it yourself.
> >
> > In article <1185762014.273108.163...@x35g2000prf.googlegroups .com>,
> > googlegro...@gersic.com says...
> >
> > > Hi all,

> >
> > > I just bought an '04 JGC 4.0 to replace my '97 JGC 4.0. After I got
> > > home from the dealer, I started noticing that sometimes when I stop,
> > > as soon as I come to a full and complete stop, I get an extra little
> > > lurch / bump. It's somewhat similar to the "bump stop" described in
> > > TSB 030400, but I don't think that's it...partially because it's an
> > > '04, which isn't covered under that TSB, and partially because it
> > > happens immediately upon stopping, not a few seconds after, and it
> > > never happens when I'm accelerating.

> >
> > > Anybody have any idea what this could be? If it's powertrain-related,
> > > I have a 30-day, 3k mile warranty that will get it fixed, but it would
> > > help to have a good idea what the problem is when I go back to the
> > > dealer, so they don't just tell me it's not any of the powertrain
> > > components, and send me home...

> >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Tom

>
>




Dave Milne 08-26-2007 04:01 AM

Re: '04 Grand Cherokee Lurch on Stop...
 
thanks for letting us know.

Dave Milne, Scotland

<googlegroups@gersic.com> wrote in message
news:1188077927.985634.207840@g4g2000hsf.googlegro ups.com...
> Hi all,
>
> Just wanted to thank all of you for your help with my "bump stop"
> problem. I brought it back to the dealer (it was under a 30-day
> warranty), who told me that nothing was wrong, but decided to grease
> the rear driveshaft slip yoke splines myself. Fixed the problem.
>
> Thanks much,
> Tom
>
>
> On Jul 31, 6:29 am, AJ <So...@nomail.com> wrote:
> > I recently had the bump/stop problem fixed on an '04 JGC 4.0/Selectrac I
> > bought used and so far so good. The TSB summary I saw on the KJ website
> > applies to V8 models and talks about replacing the driveshaft but it
> > also contains a Note that on 4.0's the splines should be greased. The
> > service writer I talked to said it was very common, doesn't hurt
> > anything, and might come back eventually. They pulled the driveshaft and
> > greased it in about half an hour. Mine is still under the 3/36 warranty
> > so I don't know if the powertrain warranty covers it.
> >
> > Mine would only do it after a delay or on acceleration after very gentle
> > stops, most of the time it happened as the rear end settled right at the
> > end of a stop. One way to confirm it's the driveshaft is put it in
> > neutral before you stop and see if it goes away. The service writer told
> > me a similar problem is sometimes caused by a bad ball joint between the
> > upper control arm and the top of the differential.
> >
> > Also FWIW, there's a TSB on the '05 model that too much grease can
> > accumulate in the boot and cause a driveshaft imbalance condition,
> > something to remember if you ever fix it yourself.
> >
> > In article <1185762014.273108.163...@x35g2000prf.googlegroups .com>,
> > googlegro...@gersic.com says...
> >
> > > Hi all,

> >
> > > I just bought an '04 JGC 4.0 to replace my '97 JGC 4.0. After I got
> > > home from the dealer, I started noticing that sometimes when I stop,
> > > as soon as I come to a full and complete stop, I get an extra little
> > > lurch / bump. It's somewhat similar to the "bump stop" described in
> > > TSB 030400, but I don't think that's it...partially because it's an
> > > '04, which isn't covered under that TSB, and partially because it
> > > happens immediately upon stopping, not a few seconds after, and it
> > > never happens when I'm accelerating.

> >
> > > Anybody have any idea what this could be? If it's powertrain-related,
> > > I have a 30-day, 3k mile warranty that will get it fixed, but it would
> > > help to have a good idea what the problem is when I go back to the
> > > dealer, so they don't just tell me it's not any of the powertrain
> > > components, and send me home...

> >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Tom

>
>




Dave Milne 08-26-2007 04:01 AM

Re: '04 Grand Cherokee Lurch on Stop...
 
thanks for letting us know.

Dave Milne, Scotland

<googlegroups@gersic.com> wrote in message
news:1188077927.985634.207840@g4g2000hsf.googlegro ups.com...
> Hi all,
>
> Just wanted to thank all of you for your help with my "bump stop"
> problem. I brought it back to the dealer (it was under a 30-day
> warranty), who told me that nothing was wrong, but decided to grease
> the rear driveshaft slip yoke splines myself. Fixed the problem.
>
> Thanks much,
> Tom
>
>
> On Jul 31, 6:29 am, AJ <So...@nomail.com> wrote:
> > I recently had the bump/stop problem fixed on an '04 JGC 4.0/Selectrac I
> > bought used and so far so good. The TSB summary I saw on the KJ website
> > applies to V8 models and talks about replacing the driveshaft but it
> > also contains a Note that on 4.0's the splines should be greased. The
> > service writer I talked to said it was very common, doesn't hurt
> > anything, and might come back eventually. They pulled the driveshaft and
> > greased it in about half an hour. Mine is still under the 3/36 warranty
> > so I don't know if the powertrain warranty covers it.
> >
> > Mine would only do it after a delay or on acceleration after very gentle
> > stops, most of the time it happened as the rear end settled right at the
> > end of a stop. One way to confirm it's the driveshaft is put it in
> > neutral before you stop and see if it goes away. The service writer told
> > me a similar problem is sometimes caused by a bad ball joint between the
> > upper control arm and the top of the differential.
> >
> > Also FWIW, there's a TSB on the '05 model that too much grease can
> > accumulate in the boot and cause a driveshaft imbalance condition,
> > something to remember if you ever fix it yourself.
> >
> > In article <1185762014.273108.163...@x35g2000prf.googlegroups .com>,
> > googlegro...@gersic.com says...
> >
> > > Hi all,

> >
> > > I just bought an '04 JGC 4.0 to replace my '97 JGC 4.0. After I got
> > > home from the dealer, I started noticing that sometimes when I stop,
> > > as soon as I come to a full and complete stop, I get an extra little
> > > lurch / bump. It's somewhat similar to the "bump stop" described in
> > > TSB 030400, but I don't think that's it...partially because it's an
> > > '04, which isn't covered under that TSB, and partially because it
> > > happens immediately upon stopping, not a few seconds after, and it
> > > never happens when I'm accelerating.

> >
> > > Anybody have any idea what this could be? If it's powertrain-related,
> > > I have a 30-day, 3k mile warranty that will get it fixed, but it would
> > > help to have a good idea what the problem is when I go back to the
> > > dealer, so they don't just tell me it's not any of the powertrain
> > > components, and send me home...

> >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Tom

>
>




Dave Milne 08-26-2007 04:01 AM

Re: '04 Grand Cherokee Lurch on Stop...
 
thanks for letting us know.

Dave Milne, Scotland

<googlegroups@gersic.com> wrote in message
news:1188077927.985634.207840@g4g2000hsf.googlegro ups.com...
> Hi all,
>
> Just wanted to thank all of you for your help with my "bump stop"
> problem. I brought it back to the dealer (it was under a 30-day
> warranty), who told me that nothing was wrong, but decided to grease
> the rear driveshaft slip yoke splines myself. Fixed the problem.
>
> Thanks much,
> Tom
>
>
> On Jul 31, 6:29 am, AJ <So...@nomail.com> wrote:
> > I recently had the bump/stop problem fixed on an '04 JGC 4.0/Selectrac I
> > bought used and so far so good. The TSB summary I saw on the KJ website
> > applies to V8 models and talks about replacing the driveshaft but it
> > also contains a Note that on 4.0's the splines should be greased. The
> > service writer I talked to said it was very common, doesn't hurt
> > anything, and might come back eventually. They pulled the driveshaft and
> > greased it in about half an hour. Mine is still under the 3/36 warranty
> > so I don't know if the powertrain warranty covers it.
> >
> > Mine would only do it after a delay or on acceleration after very gentle
> > stops, most of the time it happened as the rear end settled right at the
> > end of a stop. One way to confirm it's the driveshaft is put it in
> > neutral before you stop and see if it goes away. The service writer told
> > me a similar problem is sometimes caused by a bad ball joint between the
> > upper control arm and the top of the differential.
> >
> > Also FWIW, there's a TSB on the '05 model that too much grease can
> > accumulate in the boot and cause a driveshaft imbalance condition,
> > something to remember if you ever fix it yourself.
> >
> > In article <1185762014.273108.163...@x35g2000prf.googlegroups .com>,
> > googlegro...@gersic.com says...
> >
> > > Hi all,

> >
> > > I just bought an '04 JGC 4.0 to replace my '97 JGC 4.0. After I got
> > > home from the dealer, I started noticing that sometimes when I stop,
> > > as soon as I come to a full and complete stop, I get an extra little
> > > lurch / bump. It's somewhat similar to the "bump stop" described in
> > > TSB 030400, but I don't think that's it...partially because it's an
> > > '04, which isn't covered under that TSB, and partially because it
> > > happens immediately upon stopping, not a few seconds after, and it
> > > never happens when I'm accelerating.

> >
> > > Anybody have any idea what this could be? If it's powertrain-related,
> > > I have a 30-day, 3k mile warranty that will get it fixed, but it would
> > > help to have a good idea what the problem is when I go back to the
> > > dealer, so they don't just tell me it's not any of the powertrain
> > > components, and send me home...

> >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Tom

>
>




twaldron 08-26-2007 06:19 PM

Re: '04 Grand Cherokee Lurch on Stop...
 
What type of grease did you use?

tw

googlegroups@gersic.com wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Just wanted to thank all of you for your help with my "bump stop"
> problem. I brought it back to the dealer (it was under a 30-day
> warranty), who told me that nothing was wrong, but decided to grease
> the rear driveshaft slip yoke splines myself. Fixed the problem.
>
> Thanks much,
> Tom
>
>
> On Jul 31, 6:29 am, AJ <So...@nomail.com> wrote:
>
>>I recently had the bump/stop problem fixed on an '04 JGC 4.0/Selectrac I
>>bought used and so far so good. The TSB summary I saw on the KJ website
>>applies to V8 models and talks about replacing the driveshaft but it
>>also contains a Note that on 4.0's the splines should be greased. The
>>service writer I talked to said it was very common, doesn't hurt
>>anything, and might come back eventually. They pulled the driveshaft and
>>greased it in about half an hour. Mine is still under the 3/36 warranty
>>so I don't know if the powertrain warranty covers it.
>>
>>Mine would only do it after a delay or on acceleration after very gentle
>>stops, most of the time it happened as the rear end settled right at the
>>end of a stop. One way to confirm it's the driveshaft is put it in
>>neutral before you stop and see if it goes away. The service writer told
>>me a similar problem is sometimes caused by a bad ball joint between the
>>upper control arm and the top of the differential.
>>
>>Also FWIW, there's a TSB on the '05 model that too much grease can
>>accumulate in the boot and cause a driveshaft imbalance condition,
>>something to remember if you ever fix it yourself.
>>
>>In article <1185762014.273108.163...@x35g2000prf.googlegroups .com>,
>>googlegro...@gersic.com says...
>>
>>
>>>Hi all,

>>
>>>I just bought an '04 JGC 4.0 to replace my '97 JGC 4.0. After I got
>>>home from the dealer, I started noticing that sometimes when I stop,
>>>as soon as I come to a full and complete stop, I get an extra little
>>>lurch / bump. It's somewhat similar to the "bump stop" described in
>>>TSB 030400, but I don't think that's it...partially because it's an
>>>'04, which isn't covered under that TSB, and partially because it
>>>happens immediately upon stopping, not a few seconds after, and it
>>>never happens when I'm accelerating.

>>
>>>Anybody have any idea what this could be? If it's powertrain-related,
>>>I have a 30-day, 3k mile warranty that will get it fixed, but it would
>>>help to have a good idea what the problem is when I go back to the
>>>dealer, so they don't just tell me it's not any of the powertrain
>>>components, and send me home...

>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>Tom

>
>
>


twaldron 08-26-2007 06:19 PM

Re: '04 Grand Cherokee Lurch on Stop...
 
What type of grease did you use?

tw

googlegroups@gersic.com wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Just wanted to thank all of you for your help with my "bump stop"
> problem. I brought it back to the dealer (it was under a 30-day
> warranty), who told me that nothing was wrong, but decided to grease
> the rear driveshaft slip yoke splines myself. Fixed the problem.
>
> Thanks much,
> Tom
>
>
> On Jul 31, 6:29 am, AJ <So...@nomail.com> wrote:
>
>>I recently had the bump/stop problem fixed on an '04 JGC 4.0/Selectrac I
>>bought used and so far so good. The TSB summary I saw on the KJ website
>>applies to V8 models and talks about replacing the driveshaft but it
>>also contains a Note that on 4.0's the splines should be greased. The
>>service writer I talked to said it was very common, doesn't hurt
>>anything, and might come back eventually. They pulled the driveshaft and
>>greased it in about half an hour. Mine is still under the 3/36 warranty
>>so I don't know if the powertrain warranty covers it.
>>
>>Mine would only do it after a delay or on acceleration after very gentle
>>stops, most of the time it happened as the rear end settled right at the
>>end of a stop. One way to confirm it's the driveshaft is put it in
>>neutral before you stop and see if it goes away. The service writer told
>>me a similar problem is sometimes caused by a bad ball joint between the
>>upper control arm and the top of the differential.
>>
>>Also FWIW, there's a TSB on the '05 model that too much grease can
>>accumulate in the boot and cause a driveshaft imbalance condition,
>>something to remember if you ever fix it yourself.
>>
>>In article <1185762014.273108.163...@x35g2000prf.googlegroups .com>,
>>googlegro...@gersic.com says...
>>
>>
>>>Hi all,

>>
>>>I just bought an '04 JGC 4.0 to replace my '97 JGC 4.0. After I got
>>>home from the dealer, I started noticing that sometimes when I stop,
>>>as soon as I come to a full and complete stop, I get an extra little
>>>lurch / bump. It's somewhat similar to the "bump stop" described in
>>>TSB 030400, but I don't think that's it...partially because it's an
>>>'04, which isn't covered under that TSB, and partially because it
>>>happens immediately upon stopping, not a few seconds after, and it
>>>never happens when I'm accelerating.

>>
>>>Anybody have any idea what this could be? If it's powertrain-related,
>>>I have a 30-day, 3k mile warranty that will get it fixed, but it would
>>>help to have a good idea what the problem is when I go back to the
>>>dealer, so they don't just tell me it's not any of the powertrain
>>>components, and send me home...

>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>Tom

>
>
>


twaldron 08-26-2007 06:19 PM

Re: '04 Grand Cherokee Lurch on Stop...
 
What type of grease did you use?

tw

googlegroups@gersic.com wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Just wanted to thank all of you for your help with my "bump stop"
> problem. I brought it back to the dealer (it was under a 30-day
> warranty), who told me that nothing was wrong, but decided to grease
> the rear driveshaft slip yoke splines myself. Fixed the problem.
>
> Thanks much,
> Tom
>
>
> On Jul 31, 6:29 am, AJ <So...@nomail.com> wrote:
>
>>I recently had the bump/stop problem fixed on an '04 JGC 4.0/Selectrac I
>>bought used and so far so good. The TSB summary I saw on the KJ website
>>applies to V8 models and talks about replacing the driveshaft but it
>>also contains a Note that on 4.0's the splines should be greased. The
>>service writer I talked to said it was very common, doesn't hurt
>>anything, and might come back eventually. They pulled the driveshaft and
>>greased it in about half an hour. Mine is still under the 3/36 warranty
>>so I don't know if the powertrain warranty covers it.
>>
>>Mine would only do it after a delay or on acceleration after very gentle
>>stops, most of the time it happened as the rear end settled right at the
>>end of a stop. One way to confirm it's the driveshaft is put it in
>>neutral before you stop and see if it goes away. The service writer told
>>me a similar problem is sometimes caused by a bad ball joint between the
>>upper control arm and the top of the differential.
>>
>>Also FWIW, there's a TSB on the '05 model that too much grease can
>>accumulate in the boot and cause a driveshaft imbalance condition,
>>something to remember if you ever fix it yourself.
>>
>>In article <1185762014.273108.163...@x35g2000prf.googlegroups .com>,
>>googlegro...@gersic.com says...
>>
>>
>>>Hi all,

>>
>>>I just bought an '04 JGC 4.0 to replace my '97 JGC 4.0. After I got
>>>home from the dealer, I started noticing that sometimes when I stop,
>>>as soon as I come to a full and complete stop, I get an extra little
>>>lurch / bump. It's somewhat similar to the "bump stop" described in
>>>TSB 030400, but I don't think that's it...partially because it's an
>>>'04, which isn't covered under that TSB, and partially because it
>>>happens immediately upon stopping, not a few seconds after, and it
>>>never happens when I'm accelerating.

>>
>>>Anybody have any idea what this could be? If it's powertrain-related,
>>>I have a 30-day, 3k mile warranty that will get it fixed, but it would
>>>help to have a good idea what the problem is when I go back to the
>>>dealer, so they don't just tell me it's not any of the powertrain
>>>components, and send me home...

>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>Tom

>
>
>


twaldron 08-26-2007 06:19 PM

Re: '04 Grand Cherokee Lurch on Stop...
 
What type of grease did you use?

tw

googlegroups@gersic.com wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Just wanted to thank all of you for your help with my "bump stop"
> problem. I brought it back to the dealer (it was under a 30-day
> warranty), who told me that nothing was wrong, but decided to grease
> the rear driveshaft slip yoke splines myself. Fixed the problem.
>
> Thanks much,
> Tom
>
>
> On Jul 31, 6:29 am, AJ <So...@nomail.com> wrote:
>
>>I recently had the bump/stop problem fixed on an '04 JGC 4.0/Selectrac I
>>bought used and so far so good. The TSB summary I saw on the KJ website
>>applies to V8 models and talks about replacing the driveshaft but it
>>also contains a Note that on 4.0's the splines should be greased. The
>>service writer I talked to said it was very common, doesn't hurt
>>anything, and might come back eventually. They pulled the driveshaft and
>>greased it in about half an hour. Mine is still under the 3/36 warranty
>>so I don't know if the powertrain warranty covers it.
>>
>>Mine would only do it after a delay or on acceleration after very gentle
>>stops, most of the time it happened as the rear end settled right at the
>>end of a stop. One way to confirm it's the driveshaft is put it in
>>neutral before you stop and see if it goes away. The service writer told
>>me a similar problem is sometimes caused by a bad ball joint between the
>>upper control arm and the top of the differential.
>>
>>Also FWIW, there's a TSB on the '05 model that too much grease can
>>accumulate in the boot and cause a driveshaft imbalance condition,
>>something to remember if you ever fix it yourself.
>>
>>In article <1185762014.273108.163...@x35g2000prf.googlegroups .com>,
>>googlegro...@gersic.com says...
>>
>>
>>>Hi all,

>>
>>>I just bought an '04 JGC 4.0 to replace my '97 JGC 4.0. After I got
>>>home from the dealer, I started noticing that sometimes when I stop,
>>>as soon as I come to a full and complete stop, I get an extra little
>>>lurch / bump. It's somewhat similar to the "bump stop" described in
>>>TSB 030400, but I don't think that's it...partially because it's an
>>>'04, which isn't covered under that TSB, and partially because it
>>>happens immediately upon stopping, not a few seconds after, and it
>>>never happens when I'm accelerating.

>>
>>>Anybody have any idea what this could be? If it's powertrain-related,
>>>I have a 30-day, 3k mile warranty that will get it fixed, but it would
>>>help to have a good idea what the problem is when I go back to the
>>>dealer, so they don't just tell me it's not any of the powertrain
>>>components, and send me home...

>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>Tom

>
>
>


googlegroups@gersic.com 08-26-2007 09:34 PM

Re: '04 Grand Cherokee Lurch on Stop...
 
On Aug 26, 5:19 pm, twaldron <d...@hairsproutingbunions.com> wrote:
> What type of grease did you use?



Mobil 1 Synthetic Grease



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