USA

Does anyone know how to reset this error message or make it go away?

I went in for an oil change and on start up from the dealer to leave,
this error message came up. Yes, I know they fk'd it up. I disregarded
it at first as I thought they rotated my tires & did not retrain the
sensors. But they did not rotate the tires and this damn error message
won't go away! I changed the tire pressures in all 4 and retrained the
sensor. It all registered correctly but on boot up, the self-test spits
out this "TIRE PRESSURE SENSOR BAD/MISSING" error message.

The service rep had the audacity to tell me it is because my spare tire
was missing the sensor - I told him I have a 4-sensor system & my spare
tire does not have a sensor. He said he does not understand why for 80k
miles I have not had this happen.

The new sensor is $88, the labor is $26. I think I am being ripped.

Can any of you guys/gals help out? It's driving me nuts. This is my 4th
JGC and I have NEVER seen this. Have had the car for 80k wonderful miles
and going very strong. This has never happen before.

Any feedback will be much appreciated.

Thanks all

Mike Romain

Don't you just love the scam shops? They don't call them '$tealerships'
for nothing.

You had 80K of perfect use and suddenly a sensor is missing or broke?
LOL! Ya right.... Could they have reprogrammed you forcing a 5 sensor
software update?

I would go someplace else and have it 'fixed' and chalk up the scam shop
as a cheap out. You found them out cheaply...

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

USA wrote:
> Does anyone know how to reset this error message or make it go away?
>
> I went in for an oil change and on start up from the dealer to leave,
> this error message came up. Yes, I know they fk'd it up. I disregarded
> it at first as I thought they rotated my tires & did not retrain the
> sensors. But they did not rotate the tires and this damn error message
> won't go away! I changed the tire pressures in all 4 and retrained the
> sensor. It all registered correctly but on boot up, the self-test spits
> out this "TIRE PRESSURE SENSOR BAD/MISSING" error message.
>
> The service rep had the audacity to tell me it is because my spare tire
> was missing the sensor - I told him I have a 4-sensor system & my spare
> tire does not have a sensor. He said he does not understand why for 80k
> miles I have not had this happen.
>
> The new sensor is $88, the labor is $26. I think I am being ripped.
>
> Can any of you guys/gals help out? It's driving me nuts. This is my 4th
> JGC and I have NEVER seen this. Have had the car for 80k wonderful miles
> and going very strong. This has never happen before.
>
> Any feedback will be much appreciated.
>
> Thanks all

Mike Romain

Don't you just love the scam shops? They don't call them '$tealerships'
for nothing.

You had 80K of perfect use and suddenly a sensor is missing or broke?
LOL! Ya right.... Could they have reprogrammed you forcing a 5 sensor
software update?

I would go someplace else and have it 'fixed' and chalk up the scam shop
as a cheap out. You found them out cheaply...

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

USA wrote:
> Does anyone know how to reset this error message or make it go away?
>
> I went in for an oil change and on start up from the dealer to leave,
> this error message came up. Yes, I know they fk'd it up. I disregarded
> it at first as I thought they rotated my tires & did not retrain the
> sensors. But they did not rotate the tires and this damn error message
> won't go away! I changed the tire pressures in all 4 and retrained the
> sensor. It all registered correctly but on boot up, the self-test spits
> out this "TIRE PRESSURE SENSOR BAD/MISSING" error message.
>
> The service rep had the audacity to tell me it is because my spare tire
> was missing the sensor - I told him I have a 4-sensor system & my spare
> tire does not have a sensor. He said he does not understand why for 80k
> miles I have not had this happen.
>
> The new sensor is $88, the labor is $26. I think I am being ripped.
>
> Can any of you guys/gals help out? It's driving me nuts. This is my 4th
> JGC and I have NEVER seen this. Have had the car for 80k wonderful miles
> and going very strong. This has never happen before.
>
> Any feedback will be much appreciated.
>
> Thanks all

Mike Romain

Don't you just love the scam shops? They don't call them '$tealerships'
for nothing.

You had 80K of perfect use and suddenly a sensor is missing or broke?
LOL! Ya right.... Could they have reprogrammed you forcing a 5 sensor
software update?

I would go someplace else and have it 'fixed' and chalk up the scam shop
as a cheap out. You found them out cheaply...

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

USA wrote:
> Does anyone know how to reset this error message or make it go away?
>
> I went in for an oil change and on start up from the dealer to leave,
> this error message came up. Yes, I know they fk'd it up. I disregarded
> it at first as I thought they rotated my tires & did not retrain the
> sensors. But they did not rotate the tires and this damn error message
> won't go away! I changed the tire pressures in all 4 and retrained the
> sensor. It all registered correctly but on boot up, the self-test spits
> out this "TIRE PRESSURE SENSOR BAD/MISSING" error message.
>
> The service rep had the audacity to tell me it is because my spare tire
> was missing the sensor - I told him I have a 4-sensor system & my spare
> tire does not have a sensor. He said he does not understand why for 80k
> miles I have not had this happen.
>
> The new sensor is $88, the labor is $26. I think I am being ripped.
>
> Can any of you guys/gals help out? It's driving me nuts. This is my 4th
> JGC and I have NEVER seen this. Have had the car for 80k wonderful miles
> and going very strong. This has never happen before.
>
> Any feedback will be much appreciated.
>
> Thanks all

USA

Stealership? That is great.

Yes, I did suspect dishonesty at work, I thought I felt the dark force;
I just was not prepare to sever anyone's peepee so quickly.

I am not 100% familiar with that little hand programming module, I do
know it is used to reset the auto door lock and all that software in the
info center. I did not think about them resetting a 4-tire TPM system to
a 5-tire just to cause an error to read so I will go back to spend more
money. It is very venal and regrettably possible. I will look into it.

Thanks for the tip . I hope we are both wrong but we will see.

Regards

USA

Mike Romain wrote:
> Don't you just love the scam shops? They don't call them
> '$tealerships' for nothing.
>
> You had 80K of perfect use and suddenly a sensor is missing or broke?
> LOL! Ya right.... Could they have reprogrammed you forcing a 5
> sensor software update?
>
> I would go someplace else and have it 'fixed' and chalk up the scam
> shop as a cheap out. You found them out cheaply...
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> USA wrote:
>> Does anyone know how to reset this error message or make it go away?
>>
>> I went in for an oil change and on start up from the dealer to leave,
>> this error message came up. Yes, I know they fk'd it up. I
>> disregarded it at first as I thought they rotated my tires & did not
>> retrain the sensors. But they did not rotate the tires and this damn
>> error message won't go away! I changed the tire pressures in all 4
>> and retrained the sensor. It all registered correctly but on boot up,
>> the self-test spits out this "TIRE PRESSURE SENSOR BAD/MISSING" error
>> message.
>>
>> The service rep had the audacity to tell me it is because my spare
>> tire was missing the sensor - I told him I have a 4-sensor system &
>> my spare tire does not have a sensor. He said he does not understand
>> why for 80k miles I have not had this happen.
>>
>> The new sensor is $88, the labor is $26. I think I am being ripped.
>>
>> Can any of you guys/gals help out? It's driving me nuts. This is my
>> 4th JGC and I have NEVER seen this. Have had the car for 80k
>> wonderful miles and going very strong. This has never happen before.
>>
>> Any feedback will be much appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks all

USA

Stealership? That is great.

Yes, I did suspect dishonesty at work, I thought I felt the dark force;
I just was not prepare to sever anyone's peepee so quickly.

I am not 100% familiar with that little hand programming module, I do
know it is used to reset the auto door lock and all that software in the
info center. I did not think about them resetting a 4-tire TPM system to
a 5-tire just to cause an error to read so I will go back to spend more
money. It is very venal and regrettably possible. I will look into it.

Thanks for the tip . I hope we are both wrong but we will see.

Regards

USA

Mike Romain wrote:
> Don't you just love the scam shops? They don't call them
> '$tealerships' for nothing.
>
> You had 80K of perfect use and suddenly a sensor is missing or broke?
> LOL! Ya right.... Could they have reprogrammed you forcing a 5
> sensor software update?
>
> I would go someplace else and have it 'fixed' and chalk up the scam
> shop as a cheap out. You found them out cheaply...
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> USA wrote:
>> Does anyone know how to reset this error message or make it go away?
>>
>> I went in for an oil change and on start up from the dealer to leave,
>> this error message came up. Yes, I know they fk'd it up. I
>> disregarded it at first as I thought they rotated my tires & did not
>> retrain the sensors. But they did not rotate the tires and this damn
>> error message won't go away! I changed the tire pressures in all 4
>> and retrained the sensor. It all registered correctly but on boot up,
>> the self-test spits out this "TIRE PRESSURE SENSOR BAD/MISSING" error
>> message.
>>
>> The service rep had the audacity to tell me it is because my spare
>> tire was missing the sensor - I told him I have a 4-sensor system &
>> my spare tire does not have a sensor. He said he does not understand
>> why for 80k miles I have not had this happen.
>>
>> The new sensor is $88, the labor is $26. I think I am being ripped.
>>
>> Can any of you guys/gals help out? It's driving me nuts. This is my
>> 4th JGC and I have NEVER seen this. Have had the car for 80k
>> wonderful miles and going very strong. This has never happen before.
>>
>> Any feedback will be much appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks all

USA

Stealership? That is great.

Yes, I did suspect dishonesty at work, I thought I felt the dark force;
I just was not prepare to sever anyone's peepee so quickly.

I am not 100% familiar with that little hand programming module, I do
know it is used to reset the auto door lock and all that software in the
info center. I did not think about them resetting a 4-tire TPM system to
a 5-tire just to cause an error to read so I will go back to spend more
money. It is very venal and regrettably possible. I will look into it.

Thanks for the tip . I hope we are both wrong but we will see.

Regards

USA

Mike Romain wrote:
> Don't you just love the scam shops? They don't call them
> '$tealerships' for nothing.
>
> You had 80K of perfect use and suddenly a sensor is missing or broke?
> LOL! Ya right.... Could they have reprogrammed you forcing a 5
> sensor software update?
>
> I would go someplace else and have it 'fixed' and chalk up the scam
> shop as a cheap out. You found them out cheaply...
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> USA wrote:
>> Does anyone know how to reset this error message or make it go away?
>>
>> I went in for an oil change and on start up from the dealer to leave,
>> this error message came up. Yes, I know they fk'd it up. I
>> disregarded it at first as I thought they rotated my tires & did not
>> retrain the sensors. But they did not rotate the tires and this damn
>> error message won't go away! I changed the tire pressures in all 4
>> and retrained the sensor. It all registered correctly but on boot up,
>> the self-test spits out this "TIRE PRESSURE SENSOR BAD/MISSING" error
>> message.
>>
>> The service rep had the audacity to tell me it is because my spare
>> tire was missing the sensor - I told him I have a 4-sensor system &
>> my spare tire does not have a sensor. He said he does not understand
>> why for 80k miles I have not had this happen.
>>
>> The new sensor is $88, the labor is $26. I think I am being ripped.
>>
>> Can any of you guys/gals help out? It's driving me nuts. This is my
>> 4th JGC and I have NEVER seen this. Have had the car for 80k
>> wonderful miles and going very strong. This has never happen before.
>>
>> Any feedback will be much appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks all

Mike Romain

Hope we are wrong too, but some of these places seriously need to be put
out of business.

The local DC - Jeep $tealership to me has been outright stealing the
taxes they charge on emissions tests when emissions tests are tax exempt
For Ten Years! Yes I have the receipts spanning that period to prove
it. They were told about it ten years ago when they gave me back my
money for that and the Service Manager stated he would fix it. Ya
right! My son recently went there for emissions which he passed and
they are still stealing the tax!

I still think I should turn the SOB's into the government and the press
for that!

Another one we took our Cherokee to because the brake pedal was strange
and I couldn't get the wheels off so my wife went in for their free
brake inspection mostly to break the wheels free that they had installed
with their air hammer.

They told her it needed all new brakes including the 6 month old
emergency brake cables to the tune of $2200.00 or so dollars in the
written quote.

Well, 'all' the pads and shoes and cables were less than 6 months old on
4 year old rotors and the two things there actually 'were' broken, they
missed on their quote....

The pedal trouble was a ding on the caliper slider than needed a spot of
weld to fill and fix so the caliper wouldn't hang up and the emergency
brake cable had popped 'through' the backing plate on the rear wheels
due to rust. That needed a $2.00 mini U bolt clamp on the cable end to
prevent it from pulling through or a replacement backing plate.

Those are just the latest of waaaayyyy too many stories....

Mike

USA wrote:
> Stealership? That is great.
>
> Yes, I did suspect dishonesty at work, I thought I felt the dark force;
> I just was not prepare to sever anyone's peepee so quickly.
>
> I am not 100% familiar with that little hand programming module, I do
> know it is used to reset the auto door lock and all that software in the
> info center. I did not think about them resetting a 4-tire TPM system to
> a 5-tire just to cause an error to read so I will go back to spend more
> money. It is very venal and regrettably possible. I will look into it.
>
> Thanks for the tip . I hope we are both wrong but we will see.
>
> Regards
>
> USA
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>> Don't you just love the scam shops? They don't call them
>> '$tealerships' for nothing.
>>
>> You had 80K of perfect use and suddenly a sensor is missing or broke?
>> LOL! Ya right.... Could they have reprogrammed you forcing a 5
>> sensor software update?
>>
>> I would go someplace else and have it 'fixed' and chalk up the scam
>> shop as a cheap out. You found them out cheaply...
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>> USA wrote:
>>> Does anyone know how to reset this error message or make it go away?
>>>
>>> I went in for an oil change and on start up from the dealer to leave,
>>> this error message came up. Yes, I know they fk'd it up. I
>>> disregarded it at first as I thought they rotated my tires & did not
>>> retrain the sensors. But they did not rotate the tires and this damn
>>> error message won't go away! I changed the tire pressures in all 4
>>> and retrained the sensor. It all registered correctly but on boot up,
>>> the self-test spits out this "TIRE PRESSURE SENSOR BAD/MISSING" error
>>> message.
>>>
>>> The service rep had the audacity to tell me it is because my spare
>>> tire was missing the sensor - I told him I have a 4-sensor system &
>>> my spare tire does not have a sensor. He said he does not understand
>>> why for 80k miles I have not had this happen.
>>>
>>> The new sensor is $88, the labor is $26. I think I am being ripped.
>>>
>>> Can any of you guys/gals help out? It's driving me nuts. This is my
>>> 4th JGC and I have NEVER seen this. Have had the car for 80k
>>> wonderful miles and going very strong. This has never happen before.
>>>
>>> Any feedback will be much appreciated.
>>>
>>> Thanks all

Mike Romain

Hope we are wrong too, but some of these places seriously need to be put
out of business.

The local DC - Jeep $tealership to me has been outright stealing the
taxes they charge on emissions tests when emissions tests are tax exempt
For Ten Years! Yes I have the receipts spanning that period to prove
it. They were told about it ten years ago when they gave me back my
money for that and the Service Manager stated he would fix it. Ya
right! My son recently went there for emissions which he passed and
they are still stealing the tax!

I still think I should turn the SOB's into the government and the press
for that!

Another one we took our Cherokee to because the brake pedal was strange
and I couldn't get the wheels off so my wife went in for their free
brake inspection mostly to break the wheels free that they had installed
with their air hammer.

They told her it needed all new brakes including the 6 month old
emergency brake cables to the tune of $2200.00 or so dollars in the
written quote.

Well, 'all' the pads and shoes and cables were less than 6 months old on
4 year old rotors and the two things there actually 'were' broken, they
missed on their quote....

The pedal trouble was a ding on the caliper slider than needed a spot of
weld to fill and fix so the caliper wouldn't hang up and the emergency
brake cable had popped 'through' the backing plate on the rear wheels
due to rust. That needed a $2.00 mini U bolt clamp on the cable end to
prevent it from pulling through or a replacement backing plate.

Those are just the latest of waaaayyyy too many stories....

Mike

USA wrote:
> Stealership? That is great.
>
> Yes, I did suspect dishonesty at work, I thought I felt the dark force;
> I just was not prepare to sever anyone's peepee so quickly.
>
> I am not 100% familiar with that little hand programming module, I do
> know it is used to reset the auto door lock and all that software in the
> info center. I did not think about them resetting a 4-tire TPM system to
> a 5-tire just to cause an error to read so I will go back to spend more
> money. It is very venal and regrettably possible. I will look into it.
>
> Thanks for the tip . I hope we are both wrong but we will see.
>
> Regards
>
> USA
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>> Don't you just love the scam shops? They don't call them
>> '$tealerships' for nothing.
>>
>> You had 80K of perfect use and suddenly a sensor is missing or broke?
>> LOL! Ya right.... Could they have reprogrammed you forcing a 5
>> sensor software update?
>>
>> I would go someplace else and have it 'fixed' and chalk up the scam
>> shop as a cheap out. You found them out cheaply...
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>> USA wrote:
>>> Does anyone know how to reset this error message or make it go away?
>>>
>>> I went in for an oil change and on start up from the dealer to leave,
>>> this error message came up. Yes, I know they fk'd it up. I
>>> disregarded it at first as I thought they rotated my tires & did not
>>> retrain the sensors. But they did not rotate the tires and this damn
>>> error message won't go away! I changed the tire pressures in all 4
>>> and retrained the sensor. It all registered correctly but on boot up,
>>> the self-test spits out this "TIRE PRESSURE SENSOR BAD/MISSING" error
>>> message.
>>>
>>> The service rep had the audacity to tell me it is because my spare
>>> tire was missing the sensor - I told him I have a 4-sensor system &
>>> my spare tire does not have a sensor. He said he does not understand
>>> why for 80k miles I have not had this happen.
>>>
>>> The new sensor is $88, the labor is $26. I think I am being ripped.
>>>
>>> Can any of you guys/gals help out? It's driving me nuts. This is my
>>> 4th JGC and I have NEVER seen this. Have had the car for 80k
>>> wonderful miles and going very strong. This has never happen before.
>>>
>>> Any feedback will be much appreciated.
>>>
>>> Thanks all

Mike Romain

Hope we are wrong too, but some of these places seriously need to be put
out of business.

The local DC - Jeep $tealership to me has been outright stealing the
taxes they charge on emissions tests when emissions tests are tax exempt
For Ten Years! Yes I have the receipts spanning that period to prove
it. They were told about it ten years ago when they gave me back my
money for that and the Service Manager stated he would fix it. Ya
right! My son recently went there for emissions which he passed and
they are still stealing the tax!

I still think I should turn the SOB's into the government and the press
for that!

Another one we took our Cherokee to because the brake pedal was strange
and I couldn't get the wheels off so my wife went in for their free
brake inspection mostly to break the wheels free that they had installed
with their air hammer.

They told her it needed all new brakes including the 6 month old
emergency brake cables to the tune of $2200.00 or so dollars in the
written quote.

Well, 'all' the pads and shoes and cables were less than 6 months old on
4 year old rotors and the two things there actually 'were' broken, they
missed on their quote....

The pedal trouble was a ding on the caliper slider than needed a spot of
weld to fill and fix so the caliper wouldn't hang up and the emergency
brake cable had popped 'through' the backing plate on the rear wheels
due to rust. That needed a $2.00 mini U bolt clamp on the cable end to
prevent it from pulling through or a replacement backing plate.

Those are just the latest of waaaayyyy too many stories....

Mike

USA wrote:
> Stealership? That is great.
>
> Yes, I did suspect dishonesty at work, I thought I felt the dark force;
> I just was not prepare to sever anyone's peepee so quickly.
>
> I am not 100% familiar with that little hand programming module, I do
> know it is used to reset the auto door lock and all that software in the
> info center. I did not think about them resetting a 4-tire TPM system to
> a 5-tire just to cause an error to read so I will go back to spend more
> money. It is very venal and regrettably possible. I will look into it.
>
> Thanks for the tip . I hope we are both wrong but we will see.
>
> Regards
>
> USA
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>> Don't you just love the scam shops? They don't call them
>> '$tealerships' for nothing.
>>
>> You had 80K of perfect use and suddenly a sensor is missing or broke?
>> LOL! Ya right.... Could they have reprogrammed you forcing a 5
>> sensor software update?
>>
>> I would go someplace else and have it 'fixed' and chalk up the scam
>> shop as a cheap out. You found them out cheaply...
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>> USA wrote:
>>> Does anyone know how to reset this error message or make it go away?
>>>
>>> I went in for an oil change and on start up from the dealer to leave,
>>> this error message came up. Yes, I know they fk'd it up. I
>>> disregarded it at first as I thought they rotated my tires & did not
>>> retrain the sensors. But they did not rotate the tires and this damn
>>> error message won't go away! I changed the tire pressures in all 4
>>> and retrained the sensor. It all registered correctly but on boot up,
>>> the self-test spits out this "TIRE PRESSURE SENSOR BAD/MISSING" error
>>> message.
>>>
>>> The service rep had the audacity to tell me it is because my spare
>>> tire was missing the sensor - I told him I have a 4-sensor system &
>>> my spare tire does not have a sensor. He said he does not understand
>>> why for 80k miles I have not had this happen.
>>>
>>> The new sensor is $88, the labor is $26. I think I am being ripped.
>>>
>>> Can any of you guys/gals help out? It's driving me nuts. This is my
>>> 4th JGC and I have NEVER seen this. Have had the car for 80k
>>> wonderful miles and going very strong. This has never happen before.
>>>
>>> Any feedback will be much appreciated.
>>>
>>> Thanks all