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On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 20:35:27 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<LWBill------@------.net> wrote:

Who gives a ---- how your wife's was put on, he didn't ask a ----en
thing about your family ignoramus.

> My Wife's was put together without a lock washer on the positive battery
>cable to the solenoid sitting on the starter. Back it off first to dislodge
>whatever that stuff is that is made when electricity arcs, that doesn't
>allow conductivity, then retighten.
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>"D" <none@none.com> wrote in message
>news:46a14eb6$0$30603$4c368faf@roadrunner.com.. .
>> Hi All,
>> I have a 2002 Grand Cherokee, 4.7 V-8. Went to start it and only a small
>> click from under the hood. Jumping the battery was no joy.
>> First thing to check before I look for my manual?
>> Thanks
>> D

D

I need to mention too that the lights do not dim in the least when I turn
the key to start. That would indicate an open to me, but then again, here I
am asking.
Thanks.
D

"L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <LWBill------@------.net> wrote in message
news:46a17425$0$16397$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> My Wife's was put together without a lock washer on the positive
battery
> cable to the solenoid sitting on the starter. Back it off first to
dislodge
> whatever that stuff is that is made when electricity arcs, that doesn't
> allow conductivity, then retighten.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "D" <none@none.com> wrote in message
> news:46a14eb6$0$30603$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> > Hi All,
> > I have a 2002 Grand Cherokee, 4.7 V-8. Went to start it and only a small
> > click from under the hood. Jumping the battery was no joy.
> > First thing to check before I look for my manual?
> > Thanks
> > D
>
>
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>

D

I need to mention too that the lights do not dim in the least when I turn
the key to start. That would indicate an open to me, but then again, here I
am asking.
Thanks.
D

"L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <LWBill------@------.net> wrote in message
news:46a17425$0$16397$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> My Wife's was put together without a lock washer on the positive
battery
> cable to the solenoid sitting on the starter. Back it off first to
dislodge
> whatever that stuff is that is made when electricity arcs, that doesn't
> allow conductivity, then retighten.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "D" <none@none.com> wrote in message
> news:46a14eb6$0$30603$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> > Hi All,
> > I have a 2002 Grand Cherokee, 4.7 V-8. Went to start it and only a small
> > click from under the hood. Jumping the battery was no joy.
> > First thing to check before I look for my manual?
> > Thanks
> > D
>
>
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>

D

I need to mention too that the lights do not dim in the least when I turn
the key to start. That would indicate an open to me, but then again, here I
am asking.
Thanks.
D

"L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <LWBill------@------.net> wrote in message
news:46a17425$0$16397$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> My Wife's was put together without a lock washer on the positive
battery
> cable to the solenoid sitting on the starter. Back it off first to
dislodge
> whatever that stuff is that is made when electricity arcs, that doesn't
> allow conductivity, then retighten.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "D" <none@none.com> wrote in message
> news:46a14eb6$0$30603$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> > Hi All,
> > I have a 2002 Grand Cherokee, 4.7 V-8. Went to start it and only a small
> > click from under the hood. Jumping the battery was no joy.
> > First thing to check before I look for my manual?
> > Thanks
> > D
>
>
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>

D

I need to mention too that the lights do not dim in the least when I turn
the key to start. That would indicate an open to me, but then again, here I
am asking.
Thanks.
D

"L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <LWBill------@------.net> wrote in message
news:46a17425$0$16397$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> My Wife's was put together without a lock washer on the positive
battery
> cable to the solenoid sitting on the starter. Back it off first to
dislodge
> whatever that stuff is that is made when electricity arcs, that doesn't
> allow conductivity, then retighten.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "D" <none@none.com> wrote in message
> news:46a14eb6$0$30603$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> > Hi All,
> > I have a 2002 Grand Cherokee, 4.7 V-8. Went to start it and only a small
> > click from under the hood. Jumping the battery was no joy.
> > First thing to check before I look for my manual?
> > Thanks
> > D
>
>
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>

Mike Romain

I would give the starter a good thump with a rubber mallet or a chunk of
2x4 or a tire iron or a brick or whatever I had and then try it.

If it then starts, the starter is in need of new brushes.

If there is a bad connection, the bad place 'usually' will get hot after
a few tries at starting from the arcing. You can 'carefully' feel the
cable ends for heat to check this.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

D wrote:
> I need to mention too that the lights do not dim in the least when I turn
> the key to start. That would indicate an open to me, but then again, here I
> am asking.
> Thanks.
> D
>
> "L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <LWBill------@------.net> wrote in message
> news:46a17425$0$16397$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
>> My Wife's was put together without a lock washer on the positive
> battery
>> cable to the solenoid sitting on the starter. Back it off first to
> dislodge
>> whatever that stuff is that is made when electricity arcs, that doesn't
>> allow conductivity, then retighten.
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> "D" <none@none.com> wrote in message
>> news:46a14eb6$0$30603$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>>> Hi All,
>>> I have a 2002 Grand Cherokee, 4.7 V-8. Went to start it and only a small
>>> click from under the hood. Jumping the battery was no joy.
>>> First thing to check before I look for my manual?
>>> Thanks
>>> D
>>
>>
>> --
>> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>>
>
>

Mike Romain

I would give the starter a good thump with a rubber mallet or a chunk of
2x4 or a tire iron or a brick or whatever I had and then try it.

If it then starts, the starter is in need of new brushes.

If there is a bad connection, the bad place 'usually' will get hot after
a few tries at starting from the arcing. You can 'carefully' feel the
cable ends for heat to check this.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

D wrote:
> I need to mention too that the lights do not dim in the least when I turn
> the key to start. That would indicate an open to me, but then again, here I
> am asking.
> Thanks.
> D
>
> "L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <LWBill------@------.net> wrote in message
> news:46a17425$0$16397$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
>> My Wife's was put together without a lock washer on the positive
> battery
>> cable to the solenoid sitting on the starter. Back it off first to
> dislodge
>> whatever that stuff is that is made when electricity arcs, that doesn't
>> allow conductivity, then retighten.
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> "D" <none@none.com> wrote in message
>> news:46a14eb6$0$30603$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>>> Hi All,
>>> I have a 2002 Grand Cherokee, 4.7 V-8. Went to start it and only a small
>>> click from under the hood. Jumping the battery was no joy.
>>> First thing to check before I look for my manual?
>>> Thanks
>>> D
>>
>>
>> --
>> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>>
>
>

Mike Romain

I would give the starter a good thump with a rubber mallet or a chunk of
2x4 or a tire iron or a brick or whatever I had and then try it.

If it then starts, the starter is in need of new brushes.

If there is a bad connection, the bad place 'usually' will get hot after
a few tries at starting from the arcing. You can 'carefully' feel the
cable ends for heat to check this.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

D wrote:
> I need to mention too that the lights do not dim in the least when I turn
> the key to start. That would indicate an open to me, but then again, here I
> am asking.
> Thanks.
> D
>
> "L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <LWBill------@------.net> wrote in message
> news:46a17425$0$16397$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
>> My Wife's was put together without a lock washer on the positive
> battery
>> cable to the solenoid sitting on the starter. Back it off first to
> dislodge
>> whatever that stuff is that is made when electricity arcs, that doesn't
>> allow conductivity, then retighten.
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> "D" <none@none.com> wrote in message
>> news:46a14eb6$0$30603$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>>> Hi All,
>>> I have a 2002 Grand Cherokee, 4.7 V-8. Went to start it and only a small
>>> click from under the hood. Jumping the battery was no joy.
>>> First thing to check before I look for my manual?
>>> Thanks
>>> D
>>
>>
>> --
>> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>>
>
>

Mike Romain

I would give the starter a good thump with a rubber mallet or a chunk of
2x4 or a tire iron or a brick or whatever I had and then try it.

If it then starts, the starter is in need of new brushes.

If there is a bad connection, the bad place 'usually' will get hot after
a few tries at starting from the arcing. You can 'carefully' feel the
cable ends for heat to check this.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

D wrote:
> I need to mention too that the lights do not dim in the least when I turn
> the key to start. That would indicate an open to me, but then again, here I
> am asking.
> Thanks.
> D
>
> "L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <LWBill------@------.net> wrote in message
> news:46a17425$0$16397$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
>> My Wife's was put together without a lock washer on the positive
> battery
>> cable to the solenoid sitting on the starter. Back it off first to
> dislodge
>> whatever that stuff is that is made when electricity arcs, that doesn't
>> allow conductivity, then retighten.
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> "D" <none@none.com> wrote in message
>> news:46a14eb6$0$30603$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>>> Hi All,
>>> I have a 2002 Grand Cherokee, 4.7 V-8. Went to start it and only a small
>>> click from under the hood. Jumping the battery was no joy.
>>> First thing to check before I look for my manual?
>>> Thanks
>>> D
>>
>>
>> --
>> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>>
>
>

D

Thanks Mike. I just got back in from the "thump" test. No Joy.
Measuring across the battery terminals, I got 12.54vdc. I turned the key to
start with the meter connected, and it dropped to 11.45vdc, slowly returning
to about 12.15vdc. I don't know if that's severe, but I have the charger on
the disconnected battery now to see what happens. Will check the solenoid
connections while it's charging and let you know what happens in about an
hour.
Oh, I find no hot spots in the circuit.
Thanks
D

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:46a21dd5$0$32395$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
> I would give the starter a good thump with a rubber mallet or a chunk of
> 2x4 or a tire iron or a brick or whatever I had and then try it.
>
> If it then starts, the starter is in need of new brushes.
>
> If there is a bad connection, the bad place 'usually' will get hot after
> a few tries at starting from the arcing. You can 'carefully' feel the
> cable ends for heat to check this.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> D wrote:
> > I need to mention too that the lights do not dim in the least when I
turn
> > the key to start. That would indicate an open to me, but then again,
here I
> > am asking.
> > Thanks.
> > D
> >
> > "L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <LWBill------@------.net> wrote in message
> > news:46a17425$0$16397$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> >> My Wife's was put together without a lock washer on the positive
> > battery
> >> cable to the solenoid sitting on the starter. Back it off first to
> > dislodge
> >> whatever that stuff is that is made when electricity arcs, that doesn't
> >> allow conductivity, then retighten.
> >> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> >> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >>
> >> "D" <none@none.com> wrote in message
> >> news:46a14eb6$0$30603$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> >>> Hi All,
> >>> I have a 2002 Grand Cherokee, 4.7 V-8. Went to start it and only a
small
> >>> click from under the hood. Jumping the battery was no joy.
> >>> First thing to check before I look for my manual?
> >>> Thanks
> >>> D
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
> >>
> >
> >