'02 JEEP Liberty Limited
10-18-2004, 12:39 AM
#31
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Re: '02 JEEP Liberty Limited
You're either full of ----, or you're an idiot. I suspect both.
Just FYI, the driver's airbag is designed to deploy on frontal impact when it
would do you some good. Not when some moron lays it on it's side, doing no good
at all.
In message <gLycd.81439$Ot3.53329@twister.nyc.rr.com>, "TechCityPC.com" wrote:
Clipped HTML crap
Just FYI, the driver's airbag is designed to deploy on frontal impact when it
would do you some good. Not when some moron lays it on it's side, doing no good
at all.
In message <gLycd.81439$Ot3.53329@twister.nyc.rr.com>, "TechCityPC.com" wrote:
Clipped HTML crap
10-18-2004, 07:21 AM
#32
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Re: '02 JEEP Liberty Limited
"TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
news:gTAcd.81845$Ot3.78914@twister.nyc.rr.com...
> It doesn't matter how serious you take it. The fact remains that I almost
> lost my life because I refused to believe all advise against getting a
> Liberty. If you don't believe me just post your own Liberty question to
the
> group regarding Libertys, and you will see all that I saw when I asked
about
> the Liberty. Another fact is that a Liberty is not a JEEP. This I learned
2
> ways.1st listen to your pals in the group! 2nd be very careful if you
drive
> a Liberty.
>
> --HM
what a load of crap. There are tens of thousands of Liberty's driving on
the road quite safely the only difference between them all is the driver.
cars are not inherently dangerous - but some drivers
are................what's that old saying - "a bad workman always blames his
tools".
If the car that was at fault then sue DC, then you will prove that it's the
cars fault not yours. Until then I vote that you had something to do with
the accident!
10-18-2004, 07:21 AM
#33
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Re: '02 JEEP Liberty Limited
"TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
news:gTAcd.81845$Ot3.78914@twister.nyc.rr.com...
> It doesn't matter how serious you take it. The fact remains that I almost
> lost my life because I refused to believe all advise against getting a
> Liberty. If you don't believe me just post your own Liberty question to
the
> group regarding Libertys, and you will see all that I saw when I asked
about
> the Liberty. Another fact is that a Liberty is not a JEEP. This I learned
2
> ways.1st listen to your pals in the group! 2nd be very careful if you
drive
> a Liberty.
>
> --HM
what a load of crap. There are tens of thousands of Liberty's driving on
the road quite safely the only difference between them all is the driver.
cars are not inherently dangerous - but some drivers
are................what's that old saying - "a bad workman always blames his
tools".
If the car that was at fault then sue DC, then you will prove that it's the
cars fault not yours. Until then I vote that you had something to do with
the accident!
10-18-2004, 07:21 AM
#34
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Re: '02 JEEP Liberty Limited
"TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
news:gTAcd.81845$Ot3.78914@twister.nyc.rr.com...
> It doesn't matter how serious you take it. The fact remains that I almost
> lost my life because I refused to believe all advise against getting a
> Liberty. If you don't believe me just post your own Liberty question to
the
> group regarding Libertys, and you will see all that I saw when I asked
about
> the Liberty. Another fact is that a Liberty is not a JEEP. This I learned
2
> ways.1st listen to your pals in the group! 2nd be very careful if you
drive
> a Liberty.
>
> --HM
what a load of crap. There are tens of thousands of Liberty's driving on
the road quite safely the only difference between them all is the driver.
cars are not inherently dangerous - but some drivers
are................what's that old saying - "a bad workman always blames his
tools".
If the car that was at fault then sue DC, then you will prove that it's the
cars fault not yours. Until then I vote that you had something to do with
the accident!
10-18-2004, 09:05 AM
#35
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Re: '02 JEEP Liberty Limited
Thanks for the get well. No cause as of yet. Although some how the there is
a police report that says excessive speed and unsafe lane change. The only
unsafe lane changes I recall making was when I was trying to regain control.
I don't know where the speeding came from in a full pattern.
I don't know if I caused it or something else caused it or even a
combination of things... But I do know that a JEEP should not behave like
this at cruising speeds.
--HM
"Bruce Yelen" <byelen@csd.net> wrote in message
news:ZLadnfXM3PSmju7cRVn-qA@comcast.com...
> Glad you weren't too badly injured! Was the cause of losing control
> found?
>
>
> "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
> news:TUAcd.81846$Ot3.3428@twister.nyc.rr.com...
>> Sorry about the hyper text. And I should have listened to you guys. I
>> consider the fact that no one but I was hurt...
>>
>> --HM
>>
>> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:4172C17F.60054DC@***.net...
>>> Please don't post using Hyper Text Markup Language.
>>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
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>>> Ok, I lied. I kept that Liberty. It "was" beautiful in and out. So I =
>>> couldn't resist keeping it. Well here I am eating crow. To that member =
>>> that sent me that message coming down hard on me for getting that =
>>> Liberty, I apologize for my response. I was moving in a full patter at =
>>> about 55 - 58 mph. I know this because I love to watch how many RPMs my
>>> =
>>> engine is cycling at certain speeds and road conditions.Anyway like I =
>>> said the pattern was full but the traffic flow was great under a =
>>> perfectly clear moon lit evening. Riding the center lane I decided I =
>>> wanted an ever slower ride home. So I hit the turn signal and merged =
>>> right in and as I was completing the lane change I lost total control of
>>> =
>>> it. Every steering correction I tried only made it worse. Now I found =
>>> myself swaying all over the road trying to regain control. Luckily I hit
>>> =
>>> no one. In the end the mother F*&#ing was on its side doing the death =
>>> slide in the middle of a mad traffic and if I recall correctly it slid =
>>> for about 5 city blocks. bruised almost my entire body, broke one wrist
>>> =
>>> and badly injured the other. You would think that after a catastrophic =
>>> event like that, that at least the driver's air bag would deploy. Either
>>> =
>>> way no car should behave like this at these speeds and road conditions.
>>> =
>>> This I believe is true just as I believe that Libertys are "NOT!!!" =
>>> JEEPs! If you own a Liberty you do not own a true JEEP. 'walks away with
>>> =
>>> head down in shame'
>>>
>>>
>>> --HM
>>>
>>> P.S. sorry bout any grammatical errors and spellings, it's hard to type
>>> =
>>> with thumbs.
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>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ok, I lied. I kept that Liberty. It =
>>> "was" beautiful=20
>>> in and out. So I couldn't resist keeping it. Well here I am eating crow.
>>> =
>>> To that=20
>>> member that sent me that message coming down hard on me for getting that
>>> =
>>>
>>> Liberty, I apologize for my response. I was moving in a full patter at =
>>> about 55=20
>>> - 58 mph. I know this because I love to watch how many RPMs my engine is
>>> =
>>> cycling=20
>>> at certain speeds and road conditions.Anyway like I said the pattern was
>>> =
>>> full=20
>>> but the traffic flow was great under a perfectly clear moon lit evening.
>>> =
>>> Riding=20
>>> the center lane I decided I wanted an ever slower ride home. So I hit =
>>> the turn=20
>>> signal and merged right in and as I was completing the lane change I =
>>> lost total=20
>>> control of it. Every steering correction I tried only made it worse. Now
>>> =
>>> I found=20
>>> myself swaying all over the road trying to regain control. Luckily I hit
>>> =
>>> no one.=20
>>> In the end the mother </FONT><A href=3D"mailto:F@&#ing"><FONT =
>>> face=3DArial=20
>>> size=3D2>F*&#ing</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> was on its =
>>> side doing the=20
>>> death slide in the middle of a mad traffic and if I recall correctly it
>>> =
>>> slid for=20
>>> about 5 city blocks. bruised almost my entire body, broke one wrist and
>>> =
>>> badly=20
>>> injured the other. You would think that after a catastrophic event like
>>> =
>>> that,=20
>>> that at least the driver's air bag would deploy. Either way no car
>>> =
>>> should=20
>>> behave like this at these speeds and road conditions. This I believe is
>>> =
>>> true=20
>>> just as I believe that Libertys are "NOT!!!" JEEPs! If you own a Liberty
>>> =
>>> you do=20
>>> not own a true JEEP. <EM>'walks away with head down in =
>>> shame'</EM></FONT></DIV>
>>> <DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT></EM> </DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>--HM</FONT></DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>P.S. sorry bout any grammatical errors
>>> =
>>> and=20
>>> spellings, it's hard to type with thumbs.</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>>>
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>>
>>
>
>
a police report that says excessive speed and unsafe lane change. The only
unsafe lane changes I recall making was when I was trying to regain control.
I don't know where the speeding came from in a full pattern.
I don't know if I caused it or something else caused it or even a
combination of things... But I do know that a JEEP should not behave like
this at cruising speeds.
--HM
"Bruce Yelen" <byelen@csd.net> wrote in message
news:ZLadnfXM3PSmju7cRVn-qA@comcast.com...
> Glad you weren't too badly injured! Was the cause of losing control
> found?
>
>
> "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
> news:TUAcd.81846$Ot3.3428@twister.nyc.rr.com...
>> Sorry about the hyper text. And I should have listened to you guys. I
>> consider the fact that no one but I was hurt...
>>
>> --HM
>>
>> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:4172C17F.60054DC@***.net...
>>> Please don't post using Hyper Text Markup Language.
>>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
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>>> Ok, I lied. I kept that Liberty. It "was" beautiful in and out. So I =
>>> couldn't resist keeping it. Well here I am eating crow. To that member =
>>> that sent me that message coming down hard on me for getting that =
>>> Liberty, I apologize for my response. I was moving in a full patter at =
>>> about 55 - 58 mph. I know this because I love to watch how many RPMs my
>>> =
>>> engine is cycling at certain speeds and road conditions.Anyway like I =
>>> said the pattern was full but the traffic flow was great under a =
>>> perfectly clear moon lit evening. Riding the center lane I decided I =
>>> wanted an ever slower ride home. So I hit the turn signal and merged =
>>> right in and as I was completing the lane change I lost total control of
>>> =
>>> it. Every steering correction I tried only made it worse. Now I found =
>>> myself swaying all over the road trying to regain control. Luckily I hit
>>> =
>>> no one. In the end the mother F*&#ing was on its side doing the death =
>>> slide in the middle of a mad traffic and if I recall correctly it slid =
>>> for about 5 city blocks. bruised almost my entire body, broke one wrist
>>> =
>>> and badly injured the other. You would think that after a catastrophic =
>>> event like that, that at least the driver's air bag would deploy. Either
>>> =
>>> way no car should behave like this at these speeds and road conditions.
>>> =
>>> This I believe is true just as I believe that Libertys are "NOT!!!" =
>>> JEEPs! If you own a Liberty you do not own a true JEEP. 'walks away with
>>> =
>>> head down in shame'
>>>
>>>
>>> --HM
>>>
>>> P.S. sorry bout any grammatical errors and spellings, it's hard to type
>>> =
>>> with thumbs.
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>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ok, I lied. I kept that Liberty. It =
>>> "was" beautiful=20
>>> in and out. So I couldn't resist keeping it. Well here I am eating crow.
>>> =
>>> To that=20
>>> member that sent me that message coming down hard on me for getting that
>>> =
>>>
>>> Liberty, I apologize for my response. I was moving in a full patter at =
>>> about 55=20
>>> - 58 mph. I know this because I love to watch how many RPMs my engine is
>>> =
>>> cycling=20
>>> at certain speeds and road conditions.Anyway like I said the pattern was
>>> =
>>> full=20
>>> but the traffic flow was great under a perfectly clear moon lit evening.
>>> =
>>> Riding=20
>>> the center lane I decided I wanted an ever slower ride home. So I hit =
>>> the turn=20
>>> signal and merged right in and as I was completing the lane change I =
>>> lost total=20
>>> control of it. Every steering correction I tried only made it worse. Now
>>> =
>>> I found=20
>>> myself swaying all over the road trying to regain control. Luckily I hit
>>> =
>>> no one.=20
>>> In the end the mother </FONT><A href=3D"mailto:F@&#ing"><FONT =
>>> face=3DArial=20
>>> size=3D2>F*&#ing</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> was on its =
>>> side doing the=20
>>> death slide in the middle of a mad traffic and if I recall correctly it
>>> =
>>> slid for=20
>>> about 5 city blocks. bruised almost my entire body, broke one wrist and
>>> =
>>> badly=20
>>> injured the other. You would think that after a catastrophic event like
>>> =
>>> that,=20
>>> that at least the driver's air bag would deploy. Either way no car
>>> =
>>> should=20
>>> behave like this at these speeds and road conditions. This I believe is
>>> =
>>> true=20
>>> just as I believe that Libertys are "NOT!!!" JEEPs! If you own a Liberty
>>> =
>>> you do=20
>>> not own a true JEEP. <EM>'walks away with head down in =
>>> shame'</EM></FONT></DIV>
>>> <DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT></EM> </DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>--HM</FONT></DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>P.S. sorry bout any grammatical errors
>>> =
>>> and=20
>>> spellings, it's hard to type with thumbs.</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>>>
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>>
>>
>
>
10-18-2004, 09:05 AM
#36
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Re: '02 JEEP Liberty Limited
Thanks for the get well. No cause as of yet. Although some how the there is
a police report that says excessive speed and unsafe lane change. The only
unsafe lane changes I recall making was when I was trying to regain control.
I don't know where the speeding came from in a full pattern.
I don't know if I caused it or something else caused it or even a
combination of things... But I do know that a JEEP should not behave like
this at cruising speeds.
--HM
"Bruce Yelen" <byelen@csd.net> wrote in message
news:ZLadnfXM3PSmju7cRVn-qA@comcast.com...
> Glad you weren't too badly injured! Was the cause of losing control
> found?
>
>
> "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
> news:TUAcd.81846$Ot3.3428@twister.nyc.rr.com...
>> Sorry about the hyper text. And I should have listened to you guys. I
>> consider the fact that no one but I was hurt...
>>
>> --HM
>>
>> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:4172C17F.60054DC@***.net...
>>> Please don't post using Hyper Text Markup Language.
>>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>
>>> From - Sun Oct 17 11:57:02 2004
>>> Path:
>>> news1.central.***.net!central.***.net!east.***.net !filt02.***.net!peer01.***.net!***.net!cyclone1.gn ilink.net!gnilink.net!cyclone.rdc-nyc.rr.com!news-out.nyc.rr.com!twister.nyc.rr.com.POSTED!53ab2750! not-for-mail
>>> From: "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com>
>>> Newsgroups: rec.autos.makers.jeep+******
>>> Subject: '02 JEEP Liberty Limited
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>>> Ok, I lied. I kept that Liberty. It "was" beautiful in and out. So I =
>>> couldn't resist keeping it. Well here I am eating crow. To that member =
>>> that sent me that message coming down hard on me for getting that =
>>> Liberty, I apologize for my response. I was moving in a full patter at =
>>> about 55 - 58 mph. I know this because I love to watch how many RPMs my
>>> =
>>> engine is cycling at certain speeds and road conditions.Anyway like I =
>>> said the pattern was full but the traffic flow was great under a =
>>> perfectly clear moon lit evening. Riding the center lane I decided I =
>>> wanted an ever slower ride home. So I hit the turn signal and merged =
>>> right in and as I was completing the lane change I lost total control of
>>> =
>>> it. Every steering correction I tried only made it worse. Now I found =
>>> myself swaying all over the road trying to regain control. Luckily I hit
>>> =
>>> no one. In the end the mother F*&#ing was on its side doing the death =
>>> slide in the middle of a mad traffic and if I recall correctly it slid =
>>> for about 5 city blocks. bruised almost my entire body, broke one wrist
>>> =
>>> and badly injured the other. You would think that after a catastrophic =
>>> event like that, that at least the driver's air bag would deploy. Either
>>> =
>>> way no car should behave like this at these speeds and road conditions.
>>> =
>>> This I believe is true just as I believe that Libertys are "NOT!!!" =
>>> JEEPs! If you own a Liberty you do not own a true JEEP. 'walks away with
>>> =
>>> head down in shame'
>>>
>>>
>>> --HM
>>>
>>> P.S. sorry bout any grammatical errors and spellings, it's hard to type
>>> =
>>> with thumbs.
>>> ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C4B454.AAF39840
>>> Content-Type: text/html;
>>> charset="iso-8859-1"
>>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>>>
>>> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>> <HTML><HEAD>
>>> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>>> charset=3Diso-8859-1">
>>> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2900.2523" name=3DGENERATOR>
>>> <STYLE></STYLE>
>>> </HEAD>
>>> <BODY>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ok, I lied. I kept that Liberty. It =
>>> "was" beautiful=20
>>> in and out. So I couldn't resist keeping it. Well here I am eating crow.
>>> =
>>> To that=20
>>> member that sent me that message coming down hard on me for getting that
>>> =
>>>
>>> Liberty, I apologize for my response. I was moving in a full patter at =
>>> about 55=20
>>> - 58 mph. I know this because I love to watch how many RPMs my engine is
>>> =
>>> cycling=20
>>> at certain speeds and road conditions.Anyway like I said the pattern was
>>> =
>>> full=20
>>> but the traffic flow was great under a perfectly clear moon lit evening.
>>> =
>>> Riding=20
>>> the center lane I decided I wanted an ever slower ride home. So I hit =
>>> the turn=20
>>> signal and merged right in and as I was completing the lane change I =
>>> lost total=20
>>> control of it. Every steering correction I tried only made it worse. Now
>>> =
>>> I found=20
>>> myself swaying all over the road trying to regain control. Luckily I hit
>>> =
>>> no one.=20
>>> In the end the mother </FONT><A href=3D"mailto:F@&#ing"><FONT =
>>> face=3DArial=20
>>> size=3D2>F*&#ing</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> was on its =
>>> side doing the=20
>>> death slide in the middle of a mad traffic and if I recall correctly it
>>> =
>>> slid for=20
>>> about 5 city blocks. bruised almost my entire body, broke one wrist and
>>> =
>>> badly=20
>>> injured the other. You would think that after a catastrophic event like
>>> =
>>> that,=20
>>> that at least the driver's air bag would deploy. Either way no car
>>> =
>>> should=20
>>> behave like this at these speeds and road conditions. This I believe is
>>> =
>>> true=20
>>> just as I believe that Libertys are "NOT!!!" JEEPs! If you own a Liberty
>>> =
>>> you do=20
>>> not own a true JEEP. <EM>'walks away with head down in =
>>> shame'</EM></FONT></DIV>
>>> <DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT></EM> </DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>--HM</FONT></DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>P.S. sorry bout any grammatical errors
>>> =
>>> and=20
>>> spellings, it's hard to type with thumbs.</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>>>
>>> ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C4B454.AAF39840--
>>
>>
>
>
a police report that says excessive speed and unsafe lane change. The only
unsafe lane changes I recall making was when I was trying to regain control.
I don't know where the speeding came from in a full pattern.
I don't know if I caused it or something else caused it or even a
combination of things... But I do know that a JEEP should not behave like
this at cruising speeds.
--HM
"Bruce Yelen" <byelen@csd.net> wrote in message
news:ZLadnfXM3PSmju7cRVn-qA@comcast.com...
> Glad you weren't too badly injured! Was the cause of losing control
> found?
>
>
> "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
> news:TUAcd.81846$Ot3.3428@twister.nyc.rr.com...
>> Sorry about the hyper text. And I should have listened to you guys. I
>> consider the fact that no one but I was hurt...
>>
>> --HM
>>
>> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:4172C17F.60054DC@***.net...
>>> Please don't post using Hyper Text Markup Language.
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>>> Ok, I lied. I kept that Liberty. It "was" beautiful in and out. So I =
>>> couldn't resist keeping it. Well here I am eating crow. To that member =
>>> that sent me that message coming down hard on me for getting that =
>>> Liberty, I apologize for my response. I was moving in a full patter at =
>>> about 55 - 58 mph. I know this because I love to watch how many RPMs my
>>> =
>>> engine is cycling at certain speeds and road conditions.Anyway like I =
>>> said the pattern was full but the traffic flow was great under a =
>>> perfectly clear moon lit evening. Riding the center lane I decided I =
>>> wanted an ever slower ride home. So I hit the turn signal and merged =
>>> right in and as I was completing the lane change I lost total control of
>>> =
>>> it. Every steering correction I tried only made it worse. Now I found =
>>> myself swaying all over the road trying to regain control. Luckily I hit
>>> =
>>> no one. In the end the mother F*&#ing was on its side doing the death =
>>> slide in the middle of a mad traffic and if I recall correctly it slid =
>>> for about 5 city blocks. bruised almost my entire body, broke one wrist
>>> =
>>> and badly injured the other. You would think that after a catastrophic =
>>> event like that, that at least the driver's air bag would deploy. Either
>>> =
>>> way no car should behave like this at these speeds and road conditions.
>>> =
>>> This I believe is true just as I believe that Libertys are "NOT!!!" =
>>> JEEPs! If you own a Liberty you do not own a true JEEP. 'walks away with
>>> =
>>> head down in shame'
>>>
>>>
>>> --HM
>>>
>>> P.S. sorry bout any grammatical errors and spellings, it's hard to type
>>> =
>>> with thumbs.
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>>> charset=3Diso-8859-1">
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>>> <STYLE></STYLE>
>>> </HEAD>
>>> <BODY>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ok, I lied. I kept that Liberty. It =
>>> "was" beautiful=20
>>> in and out. So I couldn't resist keeping it. Well here I am eating crow.
>>> =
>>> To that=20
>>> member that sent me that message coming down hard on me for getting that
>>> =
>>>
>>> Liberty, I apologize for my response. I was moving in a full patter at =
>>> about 55=20
>>> - 58 mph. I know this because I love to watch how many RPMs my engine is
>>> =
>>> cycling=20
>>> at certain speeds and road conditions.Anyway like I said the pattern was
>>> =
>>> full=20
>>> but the traffic flow was great under a perfectly clear moon lit evening.
>>> =
>>> Riding=20
>>> the center lane I decided I wanted an ever slower ride home. So I hit =
>>> the turn=20
>>> signal and merged right in and as I was completing the lane change I =
>>> lost total=20
>>> control of it. Every steering correction I tried only made it worse. Now
>>> =
>>> I found=20
>>> myself swaying all over the road trying to regain control. Luckily I hit
>>> =
>>> no one.=20
>>> In the end the mother </FONT><A href=3D"mailto:F@&#ing"><FONT =
>>> face=3DArial=20
>>> size=3D2>F*&#ing</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> was on its =
>>> side doing the=20
>>> death slide in the middle of a mad traffic and if I recall correctly it
>>> =
>>> slid for=20
>>> about 5 city blocks. bruised almost my entire body, broke one wrist and
>>> =
>>> badly=20
>>> injured the other. You would think that after a catastrophic event like
>>> =
>>> that,=20
>>> that at least the driver's air bag would deploy. Either way no car
>>> =
>>> should=20
>>> behave like this at these speeds and road conditions. This I believe is
>>> =
>>> true=20
>>> just as I believe that Libertys are "NOT!!!" JEEPs! If you own a Liberty
>>> =
>>> you do=20
>>> not own a true JEEP. <EM>'walks away with head down in =
>>> shame'</EM></FONT></DIV>
>>> <DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT></EM> </DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>--HM</FONT></DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>P.S. sorry bout any grammatical errors
>>> =
>>> and=20
>>> spellings, it's hard to type with thumbs.</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>>>
>>> ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C4B454.AAF39840--
>>
>>
>
>
10-18-2004, 09:05 AM
#37
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: '02 JEEP Liberty Limited
Thanks for the get well. No cause as of yet. Although some how the there is
a police report that says excessive speed and unsafe lane change. The only
unsafe lane changes I recall making was when I was trying to regain control.
I don't know where the speeding came from in a full pattern.
I don't know if I caused it or something else caused it or even a
combination of things... But I do know that a JEEP should not behave like
this at cruising speeds.
--HM
"Bruce Yelen" <byelen@csd.net> wrote in message
news:ZLadnfXM3PSmju7cRVn-qA@comcast.com...
> Glad you weren't too badly injured! Was the cause of losing control
> found?
>
>
> "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
> news:TUAcd.81846$Ot3.3428@twister.nyc.rr.com...
>> Sorry about the hyper text. And I should have listened to you guys. I
>> consider the fact that no one but I was hurt...
>>
>> --HM
>>
>> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:4172C17F.60054DC@***.net...
>>> Please don't post using Hyper Text Markup Language.
>>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>
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>>> Newsgroups: rec.autos.makers.jeep+******
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>>> Ok, I lied. I kept that Liberty. It "was" beautiful in and out. So I =
>>> couldn't resist keeping it. Well here I am eating crow. To that member =
>>> that sent me that message coming down hard on me for getting that =
>>> Liberty, I apologize for my response. I was moving in a full patter at =
>>> about 55 - 58 mph. I know this because I love to watch how many RPMs my
>>> =
>>> engine is cycling at certain speeds and road conditions.Anyway like I =
>>> said the pattern was full but the traffic flow was great under a =
>>> perfectly clear moon lit evening. Riding the center lane I decided I =
>>> wanted an ever slower ride home. So I hit the turn signal and merged =
>>> right in and as I was completing the lane change I lost total control of
>>> =
>>> it. Every steering correction I tried only made it worse. Now I found =
>>> myself swaying all over the road trying to regain control. Luckily I hit
>>> =
>>> no one. In the end the mother F*&#ing was on its side doing the death =
>>> slide in the middle of a mad traffic and if I recall correctly it slid =
>>> for about 5 city blocks. bruised almost my entire body, broke one wrist
>>> =
>>> and badly injured the other. You would think that after a catastrophic =
>>> event like that, that at least the driver's air bag would deploy. Either
>>> =
>>> way no car should behave like this at these speeds and road conditions.
>>> =
>>> This I believe is true just as I believe that Libertys are "NOT!!!" =
>>> JEEPs! If you own a Liberty you do not own a true JEEP. 'walks away with
>>> =
>>> head down in shame'
>>>
>>>
>>> --HM
>>>
>>> P.S. sorry bout any grammatical errors and spellings, it's hard to type
>>> =
>>> with thumbs.
>>> ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C4B454.AAF39840
>>> Content-Type: text/html;
>>> charset="iso-8859-1"
>>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>>>
>>> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>> <HTML><HEAD>
>>> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>>> charset=3Diso-8859-1">
>>> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2900.2523" name=3DGENERATOR>
>>> <STYLE></STYLE>
>>> </HEAD>
>>> <BODY>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ok, I lied. I kept that Liberty. It =
>>> "was" beautiful=20
>>> in and out. So I couldn't resist keeping it. Well here I am eating crow.
>>> =
>>> To that=20
>>> member that sent me that message coming down hard on me for getting that
>>> =
>>>
>>> Liberty, I apologize for my response. I was moving in a full patter at =
>>> about 55=20
>>> - 58 mph. I know this because I love to watch how many RPMs my engine is
>>> =
>>> cycling=20
>>> at certain speeds and road conditions.Anyway like I said the pattern was
>>> =
>>> full=20
>>> but the traffic flow was great under a perfectly clear moon lit evening.
>>> =
>>> Riding=20
>>> the center lane I decided I wanted an ever slower ride home. So I hit =
>>> the turn=20
>>> signal and merged right in and as I was completing the lane change I =
>>> lost total=20
>>> control of it. Every steering correction I tried only made it worse. Now
>>> =
>>> I found=20
>>> myself swaying all over the road trying to regain control. Luckily I hit
>>> =
>>> no one.=20
>>> In the end the mother </FONT><A href=3D"mailto:F@&#ing"><FONT =
>>> face=3DArial=20
>>> size=3D2>F*&#ing</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> was on its =
>>> side doing the=20
>>> death slide in the middle of a mad traffic and if I recall correctly it
>>> =
>>> slid for=20
>>> about 5 city blocks. bruised almost my entire body, broke one wrist and
>>> =
>>> badly=20
>>> injured the other. You would think that after a catastrophic event like
>>> =
>>> that,=20
>>> that at least the driver's air bag would deploy. Either way no car
>>> =
>>> should=20
>>> behave like this at these speeds and road conditions. This I believe is
>>> =
>>> true=20
>>> just as I believe that Libertys are "NOT!!!" JEEPs! If you own a Liberty
>>> =
>>> you do=20
>>> not own a true JEEP. <EM>'walks away with head down in =
>>> shame'</EM></FONT></DIV>
>>> <DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT></EM> </DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>--HM</FONT></DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>P.S. sorry bout any grammatical errors
>>> =
>>> and=20
>>> spellings, it's hard to type with thumbs.</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>>>
>>> ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C4B454.AAF39840--
>>
>>
>
>
a police report that says excessive speed and unsafe lane change. The only
unsafe lane changes I recall making was when I was trying to regain control.
I don't know where the speeding came from in a full pattern.
I don't know if I caused it or something else caused it or even a
combination of things... But I do know that a JEEP should not behave like
this at cruising speeds.
--HM
"Bruce Yelen" <byelen@csd.net> wrote in message
news:ZLadnfXM3PSmju7cRVn-qA@comcast.com...
> Glad you weren't too badly injured! Was the cause of losing control
> found?
>
>
> "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
> news:TUAcd.81846$Ot3.3428@twister.nyc.rr.com...
>> Sorry about the hyper text. And I should have listened to you guys. I
>> consider the fact that no one but I was hurt...
>>
>> --HM
>>
>> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:4172C17F.60054DC@***.net...
>>> Please don't post using Hyper Text Markup Language.
>>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>
>>> From - Sun Oct 17 11:57:02 2004
>>> Path:
>>> news1.central.***.net!central.***.net!east.***.net !filt02.***.net!peer01.***.net!***.net!cyclone1.gn ilink.net!gnilink.net!cyclone.rdc-nyc.rr.com!news-out.nyc.rr.com!twister.nyc.rr.com.POSTED!53ab2750! not-for-mail
>>> From: "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com>
>>> Newsgroups: rec.autos.makers.jeep+******
>>> Subject: '02 JEEP Liberty Limited
>>> Lines: 97
>>> MIME-Version: 1.0
>>> Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
>>> boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01C4B454.AAF39840"
>>> X-Priority: 3
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>>>
>>> Ok, I lied. I kept that Liberty. It "was" beautiful in and out. So I =
>>> couldn't resist keeping it. Well here I am eating crow. To that member =
>>> that sent me that message coming down hard on me for getting that =
>>> Liberty, I apologize for my response. I was moving in a full patter at =
>>> about 55 - 58 mph. I know this because I love to watch how many RPMs my
>>> =
>>> engine is cycling at certain speeds and road conditions.Anyway like I =
>>> said the pattern was full but the traffic flow was great under a =
>>> perfectly clear moon lit evening. Riding the center lane I decided I =
>>> wanted an ever slower ride home. So I hit the turn signal and merged =
>>> right in and as I was completing the lane change I lost total control of
>>> =
>>> it. Every steering correction I tried only made it worse. Now I found =
>>> myself swaying all over the road trying to regain control. Luckily I hit
>>> =
>>> no one. In the end the mother F*&#ing was on its side doing the death =
>>> slide in the middle of a mad traffic and if I recall correctly it slid =
>>> for about 5 city blocks. bruised almost my entire body, broke one wrist
>>> =
>>> and badly injured the other. You would think that after a catastrophic =
>>> event like that, that at least the driver's air bag would deploy. Either
>>> =
>>> way no car should behave like this at these speeds and road conditions.
>>> =
>>> This I believe is true just as I believe that Libertys are "NOT!!!" =
>>> JEEPs! If you own a Liberty you do not own a true JEEP. 'walks away with
>>> =
>>> head down in shame'
>>>
>>>
>>> --HM
>>>
>>> P.S. sorry bout any grammatical errors and spellings, it's hard to type
>>> =
>>> with thumbs.
>>> ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C4B454.AAF39840
>>> Content-Type: text/html;
>>> charset="iso-8859-1"
>>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>>>
>>> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>> <HTML><HEAD>
>>> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>>> charset=3Diso-8859-1">
>>> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2900.2523" name=3DGENERATOR>
>>> <STYLE></STYLE>
>>> </HEAD>
>>> <BODY>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ok, I lied. I kept that Liberty. It =
>>> "was" beautiful=20
>>> in and out. So I couldn't resist keeping it. Well here I am eating crow.
>>> =
>>> To that=20
>>> member that sent me that message coming down hard on me for getting that
>>> =
>>>
>>> Liberty, I apologize for my response. I was moving in a full patter at =
>>> about 55=20
>>> - 58 mph. I know this because I love to watch how many RPMs my engine is
>>> =
>>> cycling=20
>>> at certain speeds and road conditions.Anyway like I said the pattern was
>>> =
>>> full=20
>>> but the traffic flow was great under a perfectly clear moon lit evening.
>>> =
>>> Riding=20
>>> the center lane I decided I wanted an ever slower ride home. So I hit =
>>> the turn=20
>>> signal and merged right in and as I was completing the lane change I =
>>> lost total=20
>>> control of it. Every steering correction I tried only made it worse. Now
>>> =
>>> I found=20
>>> myself swaying all over the road trying to regain control. Luckily I hit
>>> =
>>> no one.=20
>>> In the end the mother </FONT><A href=3D"mailto:F@&#ing"><FONT =
>>> face=3DArial=20
>>> size=3D2>F*&#ing</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> was on its =
>>> side doing the=20
>>> death slide in the middle of a mad traffic and if I recall correctly it
>>> =
>>> slid for=20
>>> about 5 city blocks. bruised almost my entire body, broke one wrist and
>>> =
>>> badly=20
>>> injured the other. You would think that after a catastrophic event like
>>> =
>>> that,=20
>>> that at least the driver's air bag would deploy. Either way no car
>>> =
>>> should=20
>>> behave like this at these speeds and road conditions. This I believe is
>>> =
>>> true=20
>>> just as I believe that Libertys are "NOT!!!" JEEPs! If you own a Liberty
>>> =
>>> you do=20
>>> not own a true JEEP. <EM>'walks away with head down in =
>>> shame'</EM></FONT></DIV>
>>> <DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT></EM> </DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>--HM</FONT></DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>P.S. sorry bout any grammatical errors
>>> =
>>> and=20
>>> spellings, it's hard to type with thumbs.</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>>>
>>> ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C4B454.AAF39840--
>>
>>
>
>
10-18-2004, 09:08 AM
#38
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: '02 JEEP Liberty Limited
I'm not blaming anyone at this point only because driver screw up could very
well have been the problem... But I have owned JEEPs ever since I got rid of
my old taurus wagon in '97.
Right now the insurance company has it.
--HM
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:yuEcd.19210$bk1.18007@fed1read05...
>> Was the cause of losing control found?
>
> If the lawyers have their way, it will be ANYTHING but the very likely
> total driver screw-up.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
> "Bruce Yelen" <byelen@csd.net> wrote in message
> news:ZLadnfXM3PSmju7cRVn-qA@comcast.com...
>
>
>>
>>
>> "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
>> news:TUAcd.81846$Ot3.3428@twister.nyc.rr.com...
>>> Sorry about the hyper text. And I should have listened to you guys. I
>>> consider the fact that no one but I was hurt...
>>>
>>> --HM
>>>
>>> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>> news:4172C17F.60054DC@***.net...
>>>> Please don't post using Hyper Text Markup Language.
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>>>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>
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>>>> From: "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com>
>>>> Newsgroups: rec.autos.makers.jeep+******
>>>> Subject: '02 JEEP Liberty Limited
>>>> Lines: 97
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>>>> Ok, I lied. I kept that Liberty. It "was" beautiful in and out. So I =
>>>> couldn't resist keeping it. Well here I am eating crow. To that member
>>>> =
>>>> that sent me that message coming down hard on me for getting that =
>>>> Liberty, I apologize for my response. I was moving in a full patter at
>>>> =
>>>> about 55 - 58 mph. I know this because I love to watch how many RPMs my
>>>> =
>>>> engine is cycling at certain speeds and road conditions.Anyway like I =
>>>> said the pattern was full but the traffic flow was great under a =
>>>> perfectly clear moon lit evening. Riding the center lane I decided I =
>>>> wanted an ever slower ride home. So I hit the turn signal and merged =
>>>> right in and as I was completing the lane change I lost total control
>>>> of
>>>> =
>>>> it. Every steering correction I tried only made it worse. Now I found =
>>>> myself swaying all over the road trying to regain control. Luckily I
>>>> hit
>>>> =
>>>> no one. In the end the mother F*&#ing was on its side doing the death =
>>>> slide in the middle of a mad traffic and if I recall correctly it slid
>>>> =
>>>> for about 5 city blocks. bruised almost my entire body, broke one wrist
>>>> =
>>>> and badly injured the other. You would think that after a catastrophic
>>>> =
>>>> event like that, that at least the driver's air bag would deploy.
>>>> Either
>>>> =
>>>> way no car should behave like this at these speeds and road conditions.
>>>> =
>>>> This I believe is true just as I believe that Libertys are "NOT!!!" =
>>>> JEEPs! If you own a Liberty you do not own a true JEEP. 'walks away
>>>> with
>>>> =
>>>> head down in shame'
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --HM
>>>>
>>>> P.S. sorry bout any grammatical errors and spellings, it's hard to type
>>>> =
>>>> with thumbs.
>>>> ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C4B454.AAF39840
>>>> Content-Type: text/html;
>>>> charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>>>>
>>>> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>>> <HTML><HEAD>
>>>> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>>>> charset=3Diso-8859-1">
>>>> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2900.2523" name=3DGENERATOR>
>>>> <STYLE></STYLE>
>>>> </HEAD>
>>>> <BODY>
>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ok, I lied. I kept that Liberty. It =
>>>> "was" beautiful=20
>>>> in and out. So I couldn't resist keeping it. Well here I am eating
>>>> crow.
>>>> =
>>>> To that=20
>>>> member that sent me that message coming down hard on me for getting
>>>> that
>>>> =
>>>>
>>>> Liberty, I apologize for my response. I was moving in a full patter at
>>>> =
>>>> about 55=20
>>>> - 58 mph. I know this because I love to watch how many RPMs my engine
>>>> is
>>>> =
>>>> cycling=20
>>>> at certain speeds and road conditions.Anyway like I said the pattern
>>>> was
>>>> =
>>>> full=20
>>>> but the traffic flow was great under a perfectly clear moon lit
>>>> evening.
>>>> =
>>>> Riding=20
>>>> the center lane I decided I wanted an ever slower ride home. So I hit =
>>>> the turn=20
>>>> signal and merged right in and as I was completing the lane change I =
>>>> lost total=20
>>>> control of it. Every steering correction I tried only made it worse.
>>>> Now
>>>> =
>>>> I found=20
>>>> myself swaying all over the road trying to regain control. Luckily I
>>>> hit
>>>> =
>>>> no one.=20
>>>> In the end the mother </FONT><A href=3D"mailto:F@&#ing"><FONT =
>>>> face=3DArial=20
>>>> size=3D2>F*&#ing</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> was on its
>>>> =
>>>> side doing the=20
>>>> death slide in the middle of a mad traffic and if I recall correctly it
>>>> =
>>>> slid for=20
>>>> about 5 city blocks. bruised almost my entire body, broke one wrist and
>>>> =
>>>> badly=20
>>>> injured the other. You would think that after a catastrophic event like
>>>> =
>>>> that,=20
>>>> that at least the driver's air bag would deploy. Either way no car
>>>> =
>>>> should=20
>>>> behave like this at these speeds and road conditions. This I believe is
>>>> =
>>>> true=20
>>>> just as I believe that Libertys are "NOT!!!" JEEPs! If you own a
>>>> Liberty
>>>> =
>>>> you do=20
>>>> not own a true JEEP. <EM>'walks away with head down in =
>>>> shame'</EM></FONT></DIV>
>>>> <DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT></EM> </DIV>
>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>--HM</FONT></DIV>
>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>P.S. sorry bout any grammatical errors
>>>> =
>>>> and=20
>>>> spellings, it's hard to type with thumbs.</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>>>>
>>>> ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C4B454.AAF39840--
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
well have been the problem... But I have owned JEEPs ever since I got rid of
my old taurus wagon in '97.
Right now the insurance company has it.
--HM
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:yuEcd.19210$bk1.18007@fed1read05...
>> Was the cause of losing control found?
>
> If the lawyers have their way, it will be ANYTHING but the very likely
> total driver screw-up.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
> "Bruce Yelen" <byelen@csd.net> wrote in message
> news:ZLadnfXM3PSmju7cRVn-qA@comcast.com...
>
>
>>
>>
>> "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
>> news:TUAcd.81846$Ot3.3428@twister.nyc.rr.com...
>>> Sorry about the hyper text. And I should have listened to you guys. I
>>> consider the fact that no one but I was hurt...
>>>
>>> --HM
>>>
>>> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>> news:4172C17F.60054DC@***.net...
>>>> Please don't post using Hyper Text Markup Language.
>>>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>
>>>> From - Sun Oct 17 11:57:02 2004
>>>> Path:
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>>>> From: "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com>
>>>> Newsgroups: rec.autos.makers.jeep+******
>>>> Subject: '02 JEEP Liberty Limited
>>>> Lines: 97
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>>>>
>>>> Ok, I lied. I kept that Liberty. It "was" beautiful in and out. So I =
>>>> couldn't resist keeping it. Well here I am eating crow. To that member
>>>> =
>>>> that sent me that message coming down hard on me for getting that =
>>>> Liberty, I apologize for my response. I was moving in a full patter at
>>>> =
>>>> about 55 - 58 mph. I know this because I love to watch how many RPMs my
>>>> =
>>>> engine is cycling at certain speeds and road conditions.Anyway like I =
>>>> said the pattern was full but the traffic flow was great under a =
>>>> perfectly clear moon lit evening. Riding the center lane I decided I =
>>>> wanted an ever slower ride home. So I hit the turn signal and merged =
>>>> right in and as I was completing the lane change I lost total control
>>>> of
>>>> =
>>>> it. Every steering correction I tried only made it worse. Now I found =
>>>> myself swaying all over the road trying to regain control. Luckily I
>>>> hit
>>>> =
>>>> no one. In the end the mother F*&#ing was on its side doing the death =
>>>> slide in the middle of a mad traffic and if I recall correctly it slid
>>>> =
>>>> for about 5 city blocks. bruised almost my entire body, broke one wrist
>>>> =
>>>> and badly injured the other. You would think that after a catastrophic
>>>> =
>>>> event like that, that at least the driver's air bag would deploy.
>>>> Either
>>>> =
>>>> way no car should behave like this at these speeds and road conditions.
>>>> =
>>>> This I believe is true just as I believe that Libertys are "NOT!!!" =
>>>> JEEPs! If you own a Liberty you do not own a true JEEP. 'walks away
>>>> with
>>>> =
>>>> head down in shame'
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --HM
>>>>
>>>> P.S. sorry bout any grammatical errors and spellings, it's hard to type
>>>> =
>>>> with thumbs.
>>>> ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C4B454.AAF39840
>>>> Content-Type: text/html;
>>>> charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>>>>
>>>> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>>> <HTML><HEAD>
>>>> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>>>> charset=3Diso-8859-1">
>>>> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2900.2523" name=3DGENERATOR>
>>>> <STYLE></STYLE>
>>>> </HEAD>
>>>> <BODY>
>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ok, I lied. I kept that Liberty. It =
>>>> "was" beautiful=20
>>>> in and out. So I couldn't resist keeping it. Well here I am eating
>>>> crow.
>>>> =
>>>> To that=20
>>>> member that sent me that message coming down hard on me for getting
>>>> that
>>>> =
>>>>
>>>> Liberty, I apologize for my response. I was moving in a full patter at
>>>> =
>>>> about 55=20
>>>> - 58 mph. I know this because I love to watch how many RPMs my engine
>>>> is
>>>> =
>>>> cycling=20
>>>> at certain speeds and road conditions.Anyway like I said the pattern
>>>> was
>>>> =
>>>> full=20
>>>> but the traffic flow was great under a perfectly clear moon lit
>>>> evening.
>>>> =
>>>> Riding=20
>>>> the center lane I decided I wanted an ever slower ride home. So I hit =
>>>> the turn=20
>>>> signal and merged right in and as I was completing the lane change I =
>>>> lost total=20
>>>> control of it. Every steering correction I tried only made it worse.
>>>> Now
>>>> =
>>>> I found=20
>>>> myself swaying all over the road trying to regain control. Luckily I
>>>> hit
>>>> =
>>>> no one.=20
>>>> In the end the mother </FONT><A href=3D"mailto:F@&#ing"><FONT =
>>>> face=3DArial=20
>>>> size=3D2>F*&#ing</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> was on its
>>>> =
>>>> side doing the=20
>>>> death slide in the middle of a mad traffic and if I recall correctly it
>>>> =
>>>> slid for=20
>>>> about 5 city blocks. bruised almost my entire body, broke one wrist and
>>>> =
>>>> badly=20
>>>> injured the other. You would think that after a catastrophic event like
>>>> =
>>>> that,=20
>>>> that at least the driver's air bag would deploy. Either way no car
>>>> =
>>>> should=20
>>>> behave like this at these speeds and road conditions. This I believe is
>>>> =
>>>> true=20
>>>> just as I believe that Libertys are "NOT!!!" JEEPs! If you own a
>>>> Liberty
>>>> =
>>>> you do=20
>>>> not own a true JEEP. <EM>'walks away with head down in =
>>>> shame'</EM></FONT></DIV>
>>>> <DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT></EM> </DIV>
>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>--HM</FONT></DIV>
>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>P.S. sorry bout any grammatical errors
>>>> =
>>>> and=20
>>>> spellings, it's hard to type with thumbs.</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>>>>
>>>> ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C4B454.AAF39840--
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
10-18-2004, 09:08 AM
#39
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: '02 JEEP Liberty Limited
I'm not blaming anyone at this point only because driver screw up could very
well have been the problem... But I have owned JEEPs ever since I got rid of
my old taurus wagon in '97.
Right now the insurance company has it.
--HM
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:yuEcd.19210$bk1.18007@fed1read05...
>> Was the cause of losing control found?
>
> If the lawyers have their way, it will be ANYTHING but the very likely
> total driver screw-up.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
> "Bruce Yelen" <byelen@csd.net> wrote in message
> news:ZLadnfXM3PSmju7cRVn-qA@comcast.com...
>
>
>>
>>
>> "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
>> news:TUAcd.81846$Ot3.3428@twister.nyc.rr.com...
>>> Sorry about the hyper text. And I should have listened to you guys. I
>>> consider the fact that no one but I was hurt...
>>>
>>> --HM
>>>
>>> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>> news:4172C17F.60054DC@***.net...
>>>> Please don't post using Hyper Text Markup Language.
>>>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>
>>>> From - Sun Oct 17 11:57:02 2004
>>>> Path:
>>>> news1.central.***.net!central.***.net!east.***.net !filt02.***.net!peer01.***.net!***.net!cyclone1.gn ilink.net!gnilink.net!cyclone.rdc-nyc.rr.com!news-out.nyc.rr.com!twister.nyc.rr.com.POSTED!53ab2750! not-for-mail
>>>> From: "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com>
>>>> Newsgroups: rec.autos.makers.jeep+******
>>>> Subject: '02 JEEP Liberty Limited
>>>> Lines: 97
>>>> MIME-Version: 1.0
>>>> Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
>>>> boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01C4B454.AAF39840"
>>>> X-Priority: 3
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>>>> Message-ID: <gLycd.81439$Ot3.53329@twister.nyc.rr.com>
>>>> Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 18:22:04 GMT
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>>>> X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com
>>>> X-Trace: twister.nyc.rr.com 1098037324 24.193.47.104 (Sun, 17 Oct 2004
>>>> 14:22:04 EDT)
>>>> NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 14:22:04 EDT
>>>> Organization: Road Runner - NYC
>>>> Xref: east.***.net rec.autos.makers.jeep+******:530085
>>>> X-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 14:22:00 EDT (news1.central.***.net)
>>>>
>>>> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
>>>>
>>>> ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C4B454.AAF39840
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain;
>>>> charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>>>>
>>>> Ok, I lied. I kept that Liberty. It "was" beautiful in and out. So I =
>>>> couldn't resist keeping it. Well here I am eating crow. To that member
>>>> =
>>>> that sent me that message coming down hard on me for getting that =
>>>> Liberty, I apologize for my response. I was moving in a full patter at
>>>> =
>>>> about 55 - 58 mph. I know this because I love to watch how many RPMs my
>>>> =
>>>> engine is cycling at certain speeds and road conditions.Anyway like I =
>>>> said the pattern was full but the traffic flow was great under a =
>>>> perfectly clear moon lit evening. Riding the center lane I decided I =
>>>> wanted an ever slower ride home. So I hit the turn signal and merged =
>>>> right in and as I was completing the lane change I lost total control
>>>> of
>>>> =
>>>> it. Every steering correction I tried only made it worse. Now I found =
>>>> myself swaying all over the road trying to regain control. Luckily I
>>>> hit
>>>> =
>>>> no one. In the end the mother F*&#ing was on its side doing the death =
>>>> slide in the middle of a mad traffic and if I recall correctly it slid
>>>> =
>>>> for about 5 city blocks. bruised almost my entire body, broke one wrist
>>>> =
>>>> and badly injured the other. You would think that after a catastrophic
>>>> =
>>>> event like that, that at least the driver's air bag would deploy.
>>>> Either
>>>> =
>>>> way no car should behave like this at these speeds and road conditions.
>>>> =
>>>> This I believe is true just as I believe that Libertys are "NOT!!!" =
>>>> JEEPs! If you own a Liberty you do not own a true JEEP. 'walks away
>>>> with
>>>> =
>>>> head down in shame'
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --HM
>>>>
>>>> P.S. sorry bout any grammatical errors and spellings, it's hard to type
>>>> =
>>>> with thumbs.
>>>> ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C4B454.AAF39840
>>>> Content-Type: text/html;
>>>> charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>>>>
>>>> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>>> <HTML><HEAD>
>>>> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>>>> charset=3Diso-8859-1">
>>>> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2900.2523" name=3DGENERATOR>
>>>> <STYLE></STYLE>
>>>> </HEAD>
>>>> <BODY>
>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ok, I lied. I kept that Liberty. It =
>>>> "was" beautiful=20
>>>> in and out. So I couldn't resist keeping it. Well here I am eating
>>>> crow.
>>>> =
>>>> To that=20
>>>> member that sent me that message coming down hard on me for getting
>>>> that
>>>> =
>>>>
>>>> Liberty, I apologize for my response. I was moving in a full patter at
>>>> =
>>>> about 55=20
>>>> - 58 mph. I know this because I love to watch how many RPMs my engine
>>>> is
>>>> =
>>>> cycling=20
>>>> at certain speeds and road conditions.Anyway like I said the pattern
>>>> was
>>>> =
>>>> full=20
>>>> but the traffic flow was great under a perfectly clear moon lit
>>>> evening.
>>>> =
>>>> Riding=20
>>>> the center lane I decided I wanted an ever slower ride home. So I hit =
>>>> the turn=20
>>>> signal and merged right in and as I was completing the lane change I =
>>>> lost total=20
>>>> control of it. Every steering correction I tried only made it worse.
>>>> Now
>>>> =
>>>> I found=20
>>>> myself swaying all over the road trying to regain control. Luckily I
>>>> hit
>>>> =
>>>> no one.=20
>>>> In the end the mother </FONT><A href=3D"mailto:F@&#ing"><FONT =
>>>> face=3DArial=20
>>>> size=3D2>F*&#ing</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> was on its
>>>> =
>>>> side doing the=20
>>>> death slide in the middle of a mad traffic and if I recall correctly it
>>>> =
>>>> slid for=20
>>>> about 5 city blocks. bruised almost my entire body, broke one wrist and
>>>> =
>>>> badly=20
>>>> injured the other. You would think that after a catastrophic event like
>>>> =
>>>> that,=20
>>>> that at least the driver's air bag would deploy. Either way no car
>>>> =
>>>> should=20
>>>> behave like this at these speeds and road conditions. This I believe is
>>>> =
>>>> true=20
>>>> just as I believe that Libertys are "NOT!!!" JEEPs! If you own a
>>>> Liberty
>>>> =
>>>> you do=20
>>>> not own a true JEEP. <EM>'walks away with head down in =
>>>> shame'</EM></FONT></DIV>
>>>> <DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT></EM> </DIV>
>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>--HM</FONT></DIV>
>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>P.S. sorry bout any grammatical errors
>>>> =
>>>> and=20
>>>> spellings, it's hard to type with thumbs.</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>>>>
>>>> ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C4B454.AAF39840--
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
well have been the problem... But I have owned JEEPs ever since I got rid of
my old taurus wagon in '97.
Right now the insurance company has it.
--HM
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:yuEcd.19210$bk1.18007@fed1read05...
>> Was the cause of losing control found?
>
> If the lawyers have their way, it will be ANYTHING but the very likely
> total driver screw-up.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
> "Bruce Yelen" <byelen@csd.net> wrote in message
> news:ZLadnfXM3PSmju7cRVn-qA@comcast.com...
>
>
>>
>>
>> "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
>> news:TUAcd.81846$Ot3.3428@twister.nyc.rr.com...
>>> Sorry about the hyper text. And I should have listened to you guys. I
>>> consider the fact that no one but I was hurt...
>>>
>>> --HM
>>>
>>> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>> news:4172C17F.60054DC@***.net...
>>>> Please don't post using Hyper Text Markup Language.
>>>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>
>>>> From - Sun Oct 17 11:57:02 2004
>>>> Path:
>>>> news1.central.***.net!central.***.net!east.***.net !filt02.***.net!peer01.***.net!***.net!cyclone1.gn ilink.net!gnilink.net!cyclone.rdc-nyc.rr.com!news-out.nyc.rr.com!twister.nyc.rr.com.POSTED!53ab2750! not-for-mail
>>>> From: "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com>
>>>> Newsgroups: rec.autos.makers.jeep+******
>>>> Subject: '02 JEEP Liberty Limited
>>>> Lines: 97
>>>> MIME-Version: 1.0
>>>> Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
>>>> boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01C4B454.AAF39840"
>>>> X-Priority: 3
>>>> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
>>>> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180
>>>> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180
>>>> Message-ID: <gLycd.81439$Ot3.53329@twister.nyc.rr.com>
>>>> Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 18:22:04 GMT
>>>> NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.193.47.104
>>>> X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com
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>>>> Ok, I lied. I kept that Liberty. It "was" beautiful in and out. So I =
>>>> couldn't resist keeping it. Well here I am eating crow. To that member
>>>> =
>>>> that sent me that message coming down hard on me for getting that =
>>>> Liberty, I apologize for my response. I was moving in a full patter at
>>>> =
>>>> about 55 - 58 mph. I know this because I love to watch how many RPMs my
>>>> =
>>>> engine is cycling at certain speeds and road conditions.Anyway like I =
>>>> said the pattern was full but the traffic flow was great under a =
>>>> perfectly clear moon lit evening. Riding the center lane I decided I =
>>>> wanted an ever slower ride home. So I hit the turn signal and merged =
>>>> right in and as I was completing the lane change I lost total control
>>>> of
>>>> =
>>>> it. Every steering correction I tried only made it worse. Now I found =
>>>> myself swaying all over the road trying to regain control. Luckily I
>>>> hit
>>>> =
>>>> no one. In the end the mother F*&#ing was on its side doing the death =
>>>> slide in the middle of a mad traffic and if I recall correctly it slid
>>>> =
>>>> for about 5 city blocks. bruised almost my entire body, broke one wrist
>>>> =
>>>> and badly injured the other. You would think that after a catastrophic
>>>> =
>>>> event like that, that at least the driver's air bag would deploy.
>>>> Either
>>>> =
>>>> way no car should behave like this at these speeds and road conditions.
>>>> =
>>>> This I believe is true just as I believe that Libertys are "NOT!!!" =
>>>> JEEPs! If you own a Liberty you do not own a true JEEP. 'walks away
>>>> with
>>>> =
>>>> head down in shame'
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --HM
>>>>
>>>> P.S. sorry bout any grammatical errors and spellings, it's hard to type
>>>> =
>>>> with thumbs.
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>>>> <STYLE></STYLE>
>>>> </HEAD>
>>>> <BODY>
>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ok, I lied. I kept that Liberty. It =
>>>> "was" beautiful=20
>>>> in and out. So I couldn't resist keeping it. Well here I am eating
>>>> crow.
>>>> =
>>>> To that=20
>>>> member that sent me that message coming down hard on me for getting
>>>> that
>>>> =
>>>>
>>>> Liberty, I apologize for my response. I was moving in a full patter at
>>>> =
>>>> about 55=20
>>>> - 58 mph. I know this because I love to watch how many RPMs my engine
>>>> is
>>>> =
>>>> cycling=20
>>>> at certain speeds and road conditions.Anyway like I said the pattern
>>>> was
>>>> =
>>>> full=20
>>>> but the traffic flow was great under a perfectly clear moon lit
>>>> evening.
>>>> =
>>>> Riding=20
>>>> the center lane I decided I wanted an ever slower ride home. So I hit =
>>>> the turn=20
>>>> signal and merged right in and as I was completing the lane change I =
>>>> lost total=20
>>>> control of it. Every steering correction I tried only made it worse.
>>>> Now
>>>> =
>>>> I found=20
>>>> myself swaying all over the road trying to regain control. Luckily I
>>>> hit
>>>> =
>>>> no one.=20
>>>> In the end the mother </FONT><A href=3D"mailto:F@&#ing"><FONT =
>>>> face=3DArial=20
>>>> size=3D2>F*&#ing</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> was on its
>>>> =
>>>> side doing the=20
>>>> death slide in the middle of a mad traffic and if I recall correctly it
>>>> =
>>>> slid for=20
>>>> about 5 city blocks. bruised almost my entire body, broke one wrist and
>>>> =
>>>> badly=20
>>>> injured the other. You would think that after a catastrophic event like
>>>> =
>>>> that,=20
>>>> that at least the driver's air bag would deploy. Either way no car
>>>> =
>>>> should=20
>>>> behave like this at these speeds and road conditions. This I believe is
>>>> =
>>>> true=20
>>>> just as I believe that Libertys are "NOT!!!" JEEPs! If you own a
>>>> Liberty
>>>> =
>>>> you do=20
>>>> not own a true JEEP. <EM>'walks away with head down in =
>>>> shame'</EM></FONT></DIV>
>>>> <DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT></EM> </DIV>
>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>--HM</FONT></DIV>
>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>P.S. sorry bout any grammatical errors
>>>> =
>>>> and=20
>>>> spellings, it's hard to type with thumbs.</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>>>>
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>
10-18-2004, 09:08 AM
#40
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: '02 JEEP Liberty Limited
I'm not blaming anyone at this point only because driver screw up could very
well have been the problem... But I have owned JEEPs ever since I got rid of
my old taurus wagon in '97.
Right now the insurance company has it.
--HM
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:yuEcd.19210$bk1.18007@fed1read05...
>> Was the cause of losing control found?
>
> If the lawyers have their way, it will be ANYTHING but the very likely
> total driver screw-up.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
> "Bruce Yelen" <byelen@csd.net> wrote in message
> news:ZLadnfXM3PSmju7cRVn-qA@comcast.com...
>
>
>>
>>
>> "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
>> news:TUAcd.81846$Ot3.3428@twister.nyc.rr.com...
>>> Sorry about the hyper text. And I should have listened to you guys. I
>>> consider the fact that no one but I was hurt...
>>>
>>> --HM
>>>
>>> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>> news:4172C17F.60054DC@***.net...
>>>> Please don't post using Hyper Text Markup Language.
>>>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>
>>>> From - Sun Oct 17 11:57:02 2004
>>>> Path:
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>>>> From: "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com>
>>>> Newsgroups: rec.autos.makers.jeep+******
>>>> Subject: '02 JEEP Liberty Limited
>>>> Lines: 97
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>>>> Ok, I lied. I kept that Liberty. It "was" beautiful in and out. So I =
>>>> couldn't resist keeping it. Well here I am eating crow. To that member
>>>> =
>>>> that sent me that message coming down hard on me for getting that =
>>>> Liberty, I apologize for my response. I was moving in a full patter at
>>>> =
>>>> about 55 - 58 mph. I know this because I love to watch how many RPMs my
>>>> =
>>>> engine is cycling at certain speeds and road conditions.Anyway like I =
>>>> said the pattern was full but the traffic flow was great under a =
>>>> perfectly clear moon lit evening. Riding the center lane I decided I =
>>>> wanted an ever slower ride home. So I hit the turn signal and merged =
>>>> right in and as I was completing the lane change I lost total control
>>>> of
>>>> =
>>>> it. Every steering correction I tried only made it worse. Now I found =
>>>> myself swaying all over the road trying to regain control. Luckily I
>>>> hit
>>>> =
>>>> no one. In the end the mother F*&#ing was on its side doing the death =
>>>> slide in the middle of a mad traffic and if I recall correctly it slid
>>>> =
>>>> for about 5 city blocks. bruised almost my entire body, broke one wrist
>>>> =
>>>> and badly injured the other. You would think that after a catastrophic
>>>> =
>>>> event like that, that at least the driver's air bag would deploy.
>>>> Either
>>>> =
>>>> way no car should behave like this at these speeds and road conditions.
>>>> =
>>>> This I believe is true just as I believe that Libertys are "NOT!!!" =
>>>> JEEPs! If you own a Liberty you do not own a true JEEP. 'walks away
>>>> with
>>>> =
>>>> head down in shame'
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --HM
>>>>
>>>> P.S. sorry bout any grammatical errors and spellings, it's hard to type
>>>> =
>>>> with thumbs.
>>>> ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C4B454.AAF39840
>>>> Content-Type: text/html;
>>>> charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>>>>
>>>> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>>> <HTML><HEAD>
>>>> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>>>> charset=3Diso-8859-1">
>>>> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2900.2523" name=3DGENERATOR>
>>>> <STYLE></STYLE>
>>>> </HEAD>
>>>> <BODY>
>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ok, I lied. I kept that Liberty. It =
>>>> "was" beautiful=20
>>>> in and out. So I couldn't resist keeping it. Well here I am eating
>>>> crow.
>>>> =
>>>> To that=20
>>>> member that sent me that message coming down hard on me for getting
>>>> that
>>>> =
>>>>
>>>> Liberty, I apologize for my response. I was moving in a full patter at
>>>> =
>>>> about 55=20
>>>> - 58 mph. I know this because I love to watch how many RPMs my engine
>>>> is
>>>> =
>>>> cycling=20
>>>> at certain speeds and road conditions.Anyway like I said the pattern
>>>> was
>>>> =
>>>> full=20
>>>> but the traffic flow was great under a perfectly clear moon lit
>>>> evening.
>>>> =
>>>> Riding=20
>>>> the center lane I decided I wanted an ever slower ride home. So I hit =
>>>> the turn=20
>>>> signal and merged right in and as I was completing the lane change I =
>>>> lost total=20
>>>> control of it. Every steering correction I tried only made it worse.
>>>> Now
>>>> =
>>>> I found=20
>>>> myself swaying all over the road trying to regain control. Luckily I
>>>> hit
>>>> =
>>>> no one.=20
>>>> In the end the mother </FONT><A href=3D"mailto:F@&#ing"><FONT =
>>>> face=3DArial=20
>>>> size=3D2>F*&#ing</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> was on its
>>>> =
>>>> side doing the=20
>>>> death slide in the middle of a mad traffic and if I recall correctly it
>>>> =
>>>> slid for=20
>>>> about 5 city blocks. bruised almost my entire body, broke one wrist and
>>>> =
>>>> badly=20
>>>> injured the other. You would think that after a catastrophic event like
>>>> =
>>>> that,=20
>>>> that at least the driver's air bag would deploy. Either way no car
>>>> =
>>>> should=20
>>>> behave like this at these speeds and road conditions. This I believe is
>>>> =
>>>> true=20
>>>> just as I believe that Libertys are "NOT!!!" JEEPs! If you own a
>>>> Liberty
>>>> =
>>>> you do=20
>>>> not own a true JEEP. <EM>'walks away with head down in =
>>>> shame'</EM></FONT></DIV>
>>>> <DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT></EM> </DIV>
>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>--HM</FONT></DIV>
>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>P.S. sorry bout any grammatical errors
>>>> =
>>>> and=20
>>>> spellings, it's hard to type with thumbs.</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>>>>
>>>> ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C4B454.AAF39840--
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
well have been the problem... But I have owned JEEPs ever since I got rid of
my old taurus wagon in '97.
Right now the insurance company has it.
--HM
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:yuEcd.19210$bk1.18007@fed1read05...
>> Was the cause of losing control found?
>
> If the lawyers have their way, it will be ANYTHING but the very likely
> total driver screw-up.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
> "Bruce Yelen" <byelen@csd.net> wrote in message
> news:ZLadnfXM3PSmju7cRVn-qA@comcast.com...
>
>
>>
>>
>> "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
>> news:TUAcd.81846$Ot3.3428@twister.nyc.rr.com...
>>> Sorry about the hyper text. And I should have listened to you guys. I
>>> consider the fact that no one but I was hurt...
>>>
>>> --HM
>>>
>>> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>> news:4172C17F.60054DC@***.net...
>>>> Please don't post using Hyper Text Markup Language.
>>>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>
>>>> From - Sun Oct 17 11:57:02 2004
>>>> Path:
>>>> news1.central.***.net!central.***.net!east.***.net !filt02.***.net!peer01.***.net!***.net!cyclone1.gn ilink.net!gnilink.net!cyclone.rdc-nyc.rr.com!news-out.nyc.rr.com!twister.nyc.rr.com.POSTED!53ab2750! not-for-mail
>>>> From: "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com>
>>>> Newsgroups: rec.autos.makers.jeep+******
>>>> Subject: '02 JEEP Liberty Limited
>>>> Lines: 97
>>>> MIME-Version: 1.0
>>>> Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
>>>> boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01C4B454.AAF39840"
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>>>> Xref: east.***.net rec.autos.makers.jeep+******:530085
>>>> X-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 14:22:00 EDT (news1.central.***.net)
>>>>
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>>>> charset="iso-8859-1"
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>>>>
>>>> Ok, I lied. I kept that Liberty. It "was" beautiful in and out. So I =
>>>> couldn't resist keeping it. Well here I am eating crow. To that member
>>>> =
>>>> that sent me that message coming down hard on me for getting that =
>>>> Liberty, I apologize for my response. I was moving in a full patter at
>>>> =
>>>> about 55 - 58 mph. I know this because I love to watch how many RPMs my
>>>> =
>>>> engine is cycling at certain speeds and road conditions.Anyway like I =
>>>> said the pattern was full but the traffic flow was great under a =
>>>> perfectly clear moon lit evening. Riding the center lane I decided I =
>>>> wanted an ever slower ride home. So I hit the turn signal and merged =
>>>> right in and as I was completing the lane change I lost total control
>>>> of
>>>> =
>>>> it. Every steering correction I tried only made it worse. Now I found =
>>>> myself swaying all over the road trying to regain control. Luckily I
>>>> hit
>>>> =
>>>> no one. In the end the mother F*&#ing was on its side doing the death =
>>>> slide in the middle of a mad traffic and if I recall correctly it slid
>>>> =
>>>> for about 5 city blocks. bruised almost my entire body, broke one wrist
>>>> =
>>>> and badly injured the other. You would think that after a catastrophic
>>>> =
>>>> event like that, that at least the driver's air bag would deploy.
>>>> Either
>>>> =
>>>> way no car should behave like this at these speeds and road conditions.
>>>> =
>>>> This I believe is true just as I believe that Libertys are "NOT!!!" =
>>>> JEEPs! If you own a Liberty you do not own a true JEEP. 'walks away
>>>> with
>>>> =
>>>> head down in shame'
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --HM
>>>>
>>>> P.S. sorry bout any grammatical errors and spellings, it's hard to type
>>>> =
>>>> with thumbs.
>>>> ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C4B454.AAF39840
>>>> Content-Type: text/html;
>>>> charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>>>>
>>>> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>>> <HTML><HEAD>
>>>> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>>>> charset=3Diso-8859-1">
>>>> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2900.2523" name=3DGENERATOR>
>>>> <STYLE></STYLE>
>>>> </HEAD>
>>>> <BODY>
>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ok, I lied. I kept that Liberty. It =
>>>> "was" beautiful=20
>>>> in and out. So I couldn't resist keeping it. Well here I am eating
>>>> crow.
>>>> =
>>>> To that=20
>>>> member that sent me that message coming down hard on me for getting
>>>> that
>>>> =
>>>>
>>>> Liberty, I apologize for my response. I was moving in a full patter at
>>>> =
>>>> about 55=20
>>>> - 58 mph. I know this because I love to watch how many RPMs my engine
>>>> is
>>>> =
>>>> cycling=20
>>>> at certain speeds and road conditions.Anyway like I said the pattern
>>>> was
>>>> =
>>>> full=20
>>>> but the traffic flow was great under a perfectly clear moon lit
>>>> evening.
>>>> =
>>>> Riding=20
>>>> the center lane I decided I wanted an ever slower ride home. So I hit =
>>>> the turn=20
>>>> signal and merged right in and as I was completing the lane change I =
>>>> lost total=20
>>>> control of it. Every steering correction I tried only made it worse.
>>>> Now
>>>> =
>>>> I found=20
>>>> myself swaying all over the road trying to regain control. Luckily I
>>>> hit
>>>> =
>>>> no one.=20
>>>> In the end the mother </FONT><A href=3D"mailto:F@&#ing"><FONT =
>>>> face=3DArial=20
>>>> size=3D2>F*&#ing</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> was on its
>>>> =
>>>> side doing the=20
>>>> death slide in the middle of a mad traffic and if I recall correctly it
>>>> =
>>>> slid for=20
>>>> about 5 city blocks. bruised almost my entire body, broke one wrist and
>>>> =
>>>> badly=20
>>>> injured the other. You would think that after a catastrophic event like
>>>> =
>>>> that,=20
>>>> that at least the driver's air bag would deploy. Either way no car
>>>> =
>>>> should=20
>>>> behave like this at these speeds and road conditions. This I believe is
>>>> =
>>>> true=20
>>>> just as I believe that Libertys are "NOT!!!" JEEPs! If you own a
>>>> Liberty
>>>> =
>>>> you do=20
>>>> not own a true JEEP. <EM>'walks away with head down in =
>>>> shame'</EM></FONT></DIV>
>>>> <DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT></EM> </DIV>
>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>--HM</FONT></DIV>
>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>P.S. sorry bout any grammatical errors
>>>> =
>>>> and=20
>>>> spellings, it's hard to type with thumbs.</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>>>>
>>>> ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C4B454.AAF39840--
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>