{OT} -- Computer Problem
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Re: {OT} -- Computer Problem
Yes. The computer says 375,280K, that would be 375M.
Processor is a Celeron running at 2.66Ghz.
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
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> I'm assuming you mean Mb when you said K. Either way, you are better off
> with 512Mb for XP.
> What processor are you running ?
>
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:yqQrh.9544$Wz.3408@trndny06...
>> Thanks.
>>
>> I have defragged and error checked since Christmas. Still slow.
>>
>> I have 13G of Used Space and 24G of Free Space. 375K RAM. The 'puter came
>> with 128K, and I added 256K, the total is 384K, but displays as 375K.
>>
>> The machine is running McAfee Security Suite, 2006 (or 2007, I forget
> which)
>> that was recently (Thanksgiving, 2006) installed. the machine was slow
>> before McAfee was installed, and I was thinking it was "virually
>> enhanced"
>> then, and that's why I put the McAfee in. My b-in-law has signed up for
> FiOS
>> (fiber optic internet), and that comes with a security suite that I am
> going
>> to be setting up. Therer are two versions, one is free and the other is a
>> fee-service. I have the same fiber optic service, and my wife bought the
>> fee-service security suite for three of our machines, but my machine
>> still
>> is using the McAfee Suite and seems to run fine. (I replaced Norton
> Security
>> with the McAfee back in November -- at the same time I installed the
> McAfee
>> in my b-in-law's machine. My machine runs okay, his machine is slow --
>> the
>> machines at my house that have the fee-service security offered by the IP
>> run fine.)
>>
>> I suspect (still) that my b-in-law's machine might have a virus. I use
>> the
>> built-in Defrag that comes with Windows, but I haven't a utility that
> cleans
>> the Registry. I have a strong suspicion that my troubles are in the
>> Registry, but I am not smart enough to know what is a Registry
>> Requirement
>> and what is a Bogus Registry Entry.
>>
>> Do you, or anybody else, know if I can reinstall XP using a different
>> copy
>> of the OS than the one that came installed on the machine?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "YouGoFirst" <yougofirst@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:aHPrh.416019$Fi1.402281@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>> > You should first get a registry defragmenting program. The program
> should
>> > also look for errors in the registry. (I use a program called WinASO
>> > to
>> > both defragment and check for registry errors.) Another source of pain
>> > and anguish is the anti-virus program. The more recent versions of
> Norton
>> > suck up immense computing resources. You can turn off a bunch of scans
>> > that Norton does, and that helps. You should also defrag the hard
> drive.
>> >
>> > Part of the problem is that as XP has been upgraded by MS it eats up
> more
>> > and more resources.
>> >
>> > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> > news:KBPrh.21233$wq.14150@trndny07...
>> >>I (my brother in law, really) have a computer that has a SERIOUS case
>> >>of
>> >>The Slows. It takes FOREVER to open apps, and complete any number of
>> >>different tasks.
>> >>
>> >> It is an off-brand box that came from Fry's (I think). I don't recall
>> >> what the architecture is, but I'm pretty sure my 286-based laptop was
>> >> faster.
>> >>
>> >> The computer is on its way to my house for a checkout. I'm not sure
> what
>> >> my strategy will be.
>> >>
>> >> The machine has a valid version of XP Home edition, but I do not know
> if
>> >> it has the Restore CD or not. Can I use a different copy of XP to do
>> >> restore operations? I assume that I have to use the Key Code that is
>> >> on
>> >> the computer, not the one that belongs to the copy of XP that I will
>> >> restore from.
>> >>
>> >> Do not hesitate to offer suggestions on what to do ...
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
Processor is a Celeron running at 2.66Ghz.
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:NIQrh.33216$k74.1458@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> I'm assuming you mean Mb when you said K. Either way, you are better off
> with 512Mb for XP.
> What processor are you running ?
>
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:yqQrh.9544$Wz.3408@trndny06...
>> Thanks.
>>
>> I have defragged and error checked since Christmas. Still slow.
>>
>> I have 13G of Used Space and 24G of Free Space. 375K RAM. The 'puter came
>> with 128K, and I added 256K, the total is 384K, but displays as 375K.
>>
>> The machine is running McAfee Security Suite, 2006 (or 2007, I forget
> which)
>> that was recently (Thanksgiving, 2006) installed. the machine was slow
>> before McAfee was installed, and I was thinking it was "virually
>> enhanced"
>> then, and that's why I put the McAfee in. My b-in-law has signed up for
> FiOS
>> (fiber optic internet), and that comes with a security suite that I am
> going
>> to be setting up. Therer are two versions, one is free and the other is a
>> fee-service. I have the same fiber optic service, and my wife bought the
>> fee-service security suite for three of our machines, but my machine
>> still
>> is using the McAfee Suite and seems to run fine. (I replaced Norton
> Security
>> with the McAfee back in November -- at the same time I installed the
> McAfee
>> in my b-in-law's machine. My machine runs okay, his machine is slow --
>> the
>> machines at my house that have the fee-service security offered by the IP
>> run fine.)
>>
>> I suspect (still) that my b-in-law's machine might have a virus. I use
>> the
>> built-in Defrag that comes with Windows, but I haven't a utility that
> cleans
>> the Registry. I have a strong suspicion that my troubles are in the
>> Registry, but I am not smart enough to know what is a Registry
>> Requirement
>> and what is a Bogus Registry Entry.
>>
>> Do you, or anybody else, know if I can reinstall XP using a different
>> copy
>> of the OS than the one that came installed on the machine?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "YouGoFirst" <yougofirst@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:aHPrh.416019$Fi1.402281@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>> > You should first get a registry defragmenting program. The program
> should
>> > also look for errors in the registry. (I use a program called WinASO
>> > to
>> > both defragment and check for registry errors.) Another source of pain
>> > and anguish is the anti-virus program. The more recent versions of
> Norton
>> > suck up immense computing resources. You can turn off a bunch of scans
>> > that Norton does, and that helps. You should also defrag the hard
> drive.
>> >
>> > Part of the problem is that as XP has been upgraded by MS it eats up
> more
>> > and more resources.
>> >
>> > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> > news:KBPrh.21233$wq.14150@trndny07...
>> >>I (my brother in law, really) have a computer that has a SERIOUS case
>> >>of
>> >>The Slows. It takes FOREVER to open apps, and complete any number of
>> >>different tasks.
>> >>
>> >> It is an off-brand box that came from Fry's (I think). I don't recall
>> >> what the architecture is, but I'm pretty sure my 286-based laptop was
>> >> faster.
>> >>
>> >> The computer is on its way to my house for a checkout. I'm not sure
> what
>> >> my strategy will be.
>> >>
>> >> The machine has a valid version of XP Home edition, but I do not know
> if
>> >> it has the Restore CD or not. Can I use a different copy of XP to do
>> >> restore operations? I assume that I have to use the Key Code that is
>> >> on
>> >> the computer, not the one that belongs to the copy of XP that I will
>> >> restore from.
>> >>
>> >> Do not hesitate to offer suggestions on what to do ...
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
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Re: {OT} -- Computer Problem
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> LOL!
>
> The fancy AGP video cards have a serious low level issue with some
> motherboards. ASUS motherboards in particular. Special drivers are
> needed or the computer will be a seriously slow pig.
>
> I put an old PCI video card in with hardly any memory on it and my speed
> went up more than tenfold. Way more than tenfold, it is just flying.
>
I'm just running the standard video card that came with the machine. I just
checked, and the video card is actually integrated into the motherboard.
> My son also just warned about the new code keys. You cannot use yours in
> the other machine because the windoze update checks it now apparently. If
> it finds the same key code on two machines it will disable both machines
> and you will need to purchase a new copy.
>
That's what I thought.
I have two valid versions of XP, but I only have one CD available. I was
hoping that I could use the CD to fix a problem on the machine for which I
haven't got a CD. (That machine came with XP pre-loaded, and I do not recall
a CD coming with it in the box ...)
news:45afdb36$0$6590$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
> LOL!
>
> The fancy AGP video cards have a serious low level issue with some
> motherboards. ASUS motherboards in particular. Special drivers are
> needed or the computer will be a seriously slow pig.
>
> I put an old PCI video card in with hardly any memory on it and my speed
> went up more than tenfold. Way more than tenfold, it is just flying.
>
I'm just running the standard video card that came with the machine. I just
checked, and the video card is actually integrated into the motherboard.
> My son also just warned about the new code keys. You cannot use yours in
> the other machine because the windoze update checks it now apparently. If
> it finds the same key code on two machines it will disable both machines
> and you will need to purchase a new copy.
>
That's what I thought.
I have two valid versions of XP, but I only have one CD available. I was
hoping that I could use the CD to fix a problem on the machine for which I
haven't got a CD. (That machine came with XP pre-loaded, and I do not recall
a CD coming with it in the box ...)
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Re: {OT} -- Computer Problem
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:45afdb36$0$6590$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
> LOL!
>
> The fancy AGP video cards have a serious low level issue with some
> motherboards. ASUS motherboards in particular. Special drivers are
> needed or the computer will be a seriously slow pig.
>
> I put an old PCI video card in with hardly any memory on it and my speed
> went up more than tenfold. Way more than tenfold, it is just flying.
>
I'm just running the standard video card that came with the machine. I just
checked, and the video card is actually integrated into the motherboard.
> My son also just warned about the new code keys. You cannot use yours in
> the other machine because the windoze update checks it now apparently. If
> it finds the same key code on two machines it will disable both machines
> and you will need to purchase a new copy.
>
That's what I thought.
I have two valid versions of XP, but I only have one CD available. I was
hoping that I could use the CD to fix a problem on the machine for which I
haven't got a CD. (That machine came with XP pre-loaded, and I do not recall
a CD coming with it in the box ...)
news:45afdb36$0$6590$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
> LOL!
>
> The fancy AGP video cards have a serious low level issue with some
> motherboards. ASUS motherboards in particular. Special drivers are
> needed or the computer will be a seriously slow pig.
>
> I put an old PCI video card in with hardly any memory on it and my speed
> went up more than tenfold. Way more than tenfold, it is just flying.
>
I'm just running the standard video card that came with the machine. I just
checked, and the video card is actually integrated into the motherboard.
> My son also just warned about the new code keys. You cannot use yours in
> the other machine because the windoze update checks it now apparently. If
> it finds the same key code on two machines it will disable both machines
> and you will need to purchase a new copy.
>
That's what I thought.
I have two valid versions of XP, but I only have one CD available. I was
hoping that I could use the CD to fix a problem on the machine for which I
haven't got a CD. (That machine came with XP pre-loaded, and I do not recall
a CD coming with it in the box ...)
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Re: {OT} -- Computer Problem
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:45afdb36$0$6590$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
> LOL!
>
> The fancy AGP video cards have a serious low level issue with some
> motherboards. ASUS motherboards in particular. Special drivers are
> needed or the computer will be a seriously slow pig.
>
> I put an old PCI video card in with hardly any memory on it and my speed
> went up more than tenfold. Way more than tenfold, it is just flying.
>
I'm just running the standard video card that came with the machine. I just
checked, and the video card is actually integrated into the motherboard.
> My son also just warned about the new code keys. You cannot use yours in
> the other machine because the windoze update checks it now apparently. If
> it finds the same key code on two machines it will disable both machines
> and you will need to purchase a new copy.
>
That's what I thought.
I have two valid versions of XP, but I only have one CD available. I was
hoping that I could use the CD to fix a problem on the machine for which I
haven't got a CD. (That machine came with XP pre-loaded, and I do not recall
a CD coming with it in the box ...)
news:45afdb36$0$6590$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
> LOL!
>
> The fancy AGP video cards have a serious low level issue with some
> motherboards. ASUS motherboards in particular. Special drivers are
> needed or the computer will be a seriously slow pig.
>
> I put an old PCI video card in with hardly any memory on it and my speed
> went up more than tenfold. Way more than tenfold, it is just flying.
>
I'm just running the standard video card that came with the machine. I just
checked, and the video card is actually integrated into the motherboard.
> My son also just warned about the new code keys. You cannot use yours in
> the other machine because the windoze update checks it now apparently. If
> it finds the same key code on two machines it will disable both machines
> and you will need to purchase a new copy.
>
That's what I thought.
I have two valid versions of XP, but I only have one CD available. I was
hoping that I could use the CD to fix a problem on the machine for which I
haven't got a CD. (That machine came with XP pre-loaded, and I do not recall
a CD coming with it in the box ...)
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Re: {OT} -- Computer Problem
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:45afdb36$0$6590$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
> LOL!
>
> The fancy AGP video cards have a serious low level issue with some
> motherboards. ASUS motherboards in particular. Special drivers are
> needed or the computer will be a seriously slow pig.
>
> I put an old PCI video card in with hardly any memory on it and my speed
> went up more than tenfold. Way more than tenfold, it is just flying.
>
I'm just running the standard video card that came with the machine. I just
checked, and the video card is actually integrated into the motherboard.
> My son also just warned about the new code keys. You cannot use yours in
> the other machine because the windoze update checks it now apparently. If
> it finds the same key code on two machines it will disable both machines
> and you will need to purchase a new copy.
>
That's what I thought.
I have two valid versions of XP, but I only have one CD available. I was
hoping that I could use the CD to fix a problem on the machine for which I
haven't got a CD. (That machine came with XP pre-loaded, and I do not recall
a CD coming with it in the box ...)
news:45afdb36$0$6590$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
> LOL!
>
> The fancy AGP video cards have a serious low level issue with some
> motherboards. ASUS motherboards in particular. Special drivers are
> needed or the computer will be a seriously slow pig.
>
> I put an old PCI video card in with hardly any memory on it and my speed
> went up more than tenfold. Way more than tenfold, it is just flying.
>
I'm just running the standard video card that came with the machine. I just
checked, and the video card is actually integrated into the motherboard.
> My son also just warned about the new code keys. You cannot use yours in
> the other machine because the windoze update checks it now apparently. If
> it finds the same key code on two machines it will disable both machines
> and you will need to purchase a new copy.
>
That's what I thought.
I have two valid versions of XP, but I only have one CD available. I was
hoping that I could use the CD to fix a problem on the machine for which I
haven't got a CD. (That machine came with XP pre-loaded, and I do not recall
a CD coming with it in the box ...)
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Re: {OT} -- Computer Problem
"Tim" <None@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in
> news:VwQrh.7079$q32.1798@trndny01:
>
>>
>> "Earle Horton" <earle@vascongado.usa> wrote in message
>> news:45afd2e1$0$7864$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
>>> Don't let relatives know that you have computer expertise. If you
>>> get assigned a computer maintenance or repair job, screw it up. If
>>> you are not
>>> going to listen to reason, the following may be helpful.
>>>
>> I bought the machine for him.
>>
>>
>>> Run http://securitycheck.symantec.com no matter what kind of
>>> anti-virus is on the machine now.
>>>
>> I'll tray that.
>>
>>
>>
>>> Defrag the hard drive and make sure that it is not almost full.
>>>
>> Done that already. All looks good in that department.
>>
>>
>>> Put XP Professional on it.
>>>
>> All I have here is a bootleg copy of XP Pro that will not support --
>> Bill G. won't support, actually -- SP2.
>>
>>
>>
>>> Make him justify any non-Microsoft software that he has installed.
>>>
>>> Earle
>>>
>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
>
> If all else fails, format the hard drive and do a clean install of
> Windoze.
That is actually where I was going, but I haven't the CD to do that.
I'll explore the Windows Restore ...
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Re: {OT} -- Computer Problem
"Tim" <None@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:Xns98BC94C27D1D1Nonenowherecom@194.177.96.26. ..
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in
> news:VwQrh.7079$q32.1798@trndny01:
>
>>
>> "Earle Horton" <earle@vascongado.usa> wrote in message
>> news:45afd2e1$0$7864$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
>>> Don't let relatives know that you have computer expertise. If you
>>> get assigned a computer maintenance or repair job, screw it up. If
>>> you are not
>>> going to listen to reason, the following may be helpful.
>>>
>> I bought the machine for him.
>>
>>
>>> Run http://securitycheck.symantec.com no matter what kind of
>>> anti-virus is on the machine now.
>>>
>> I'll tray that.
>>
>>
>>
>>> Defrag the hard drive and make sure that it is not almost full.
>>>
>> Done that already. All looks good in that department.
>>
>>
>>> Put XP Professional on it.
>>>
>> All I have here is a bootleg copy of XP Pro that will not support --
>> Bill G. won't support, actually -- SP2.
>>
>>
>>
>>> Make him justify any non-Microsoft software that he has installed.
>>>
>>> Earle
>>>
>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
>
> If all else fails, format the hard drive and do a clean install of
> Windoze.
That is actually where I was going, but I haven't the CD to do that.
I'll explore the Windows Restore ...
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Re: {OT} -- Computer Problem
"Tim" <None@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:Xns98BC94C27D1D1Nonenowherecom@194.177.96.26. ..
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in
> news:VwQrh.7079$q32.1798@trndny01:
>
>>
>> "Earle Horton" <earle@vascongado.usa> wrote in message
>> news:45afd2e1$0$7864$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
>>> Don't let relatives know that you have computer expertise. If you
>>> get assigned a computer maintenance or repair job, screw it up. If
>>> you are not
>>> going to listen to reason, the following may be helpful.
>>>
>> I bought the machine for him.
>>
>>
>>> Run http://securitycheck.symantec.com no matter what kind of
>>> anti-virus is on the machine now.
>>>
>> I'll tray that.
>>
>>
>>
>>> Defrag the hard drive and make sure that it is not almost full.
>>>
>> Done that already. All looks good in that department.
>>
>>
>>> Put XP Professional on it.
>>>
>> All I have here is a bootleg copy of XP Pro that will not support --
>> Bill G. won't support, actually -- SP2.
>>
>>
>>
>>> Make him justify any non-Microsoft software that he has installed.
>>>
>>> Earle
>>>
>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
>
> If all else fails, format the hard drive and do a clean install of
> Windoze.
That is actually where I was going, but I haven't the CD to do that.
I'll explore the Windows Restore ...
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Re: {OT} -- Computer Problem
"Tim" <None@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in
> news:VwQrh.7079$q32.1798@trndny01:
>
>>
>> "Earle Horton" <earle@vascongado.usa> wrote in message
>> news:45afd2e1$0$7864$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
>>> Don't let relatives know that you have computer expertise. If you
>>> get assigned a computer maintenance or repair job, screw it up. If
>>> you are not
>>> going to listen to reason, the following may be helpful.
>>>
>> I bought the machine for him.
>>
>>
>>> Run http://securitycheck.symantec.com no matter what kind of
>>> anti-virus is on the machine now.
>>>
>> I'll tray that.
>>
>>
>>
>>> Defrag the hard drive and make sure that it is not almost full.
>>>
>> Done that already. All looks good in that department.
>>
>>
>>> Put XP Professional on it.
>>>
>> All I have here is a bootleg copy of XP Pro that will not support --
>> Bill G. won't support, actually -- SP2.
>>
>>
>>
>>> Make him justify any non-Microsoft software that he has installed.
>>>
>>> Earle
>>>
>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
>
> If all else fails, format the hard drive and do a clean install of
> Windoze.
That is actually where I was going, but I haven't the CD to do that.
I'll explore the Windows Restore ...
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Re: {OT} -- Computer Problem
I just used REGEDIT to find and remove Adobe Acrobat 3.0 and SpyBeGone.
Acrobat Reader 3.0 has long since been upgraded to Reader 7.0, but 3.0 was
still in the registry. SpyBeGone was also removed, but still had a registry
entry.
I am positive that both of these programs are no longer used, but they
remained in the Add & Remove Programs menu. I don't know if they were
attempting to be loaded on Start Up or not ...
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:KBPrh.21233$wq.14150@trndny07...
>I (my brother in law, really) have a computer that has a SERIOUS case of
>The Slows. It takes FOREVER to open apps, and complete any number of
>different tasks.
>
> It is an off-brand box that came from Fry's (I think). I don't recall what
> the architecture is, but I'm pretty sure my 286-based laptop was faster.
>
> The computer is on its way to my house for a checkout. I'm not sure what
> my strategy will be.
>
> The machine has a valid version of XP Home edition, but I do not know if
> it has the Restore CD or not. Can I use a different copy of XP to do
> restore operations? I assume that I have to use the Key Code that is on
> the computer, not the one that belongs to the copy of XP that I will
> restore from.
>
> Do not hesitate to offer suggestions on what to do ...
>
>
>
Acrobat Reader 3.0 has long since been upgraded to Reader 7.0, but 3.0 was
still in the registry. SpyBeGone was also removed, but still had a registry
entry.
I am positive that both of these programs are no longer used, but they
remained in the Add & Remove Programs menu. I don't know if they were
attempting to be loaded on Start Up or not ...
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:KBPrh.21233$wq.14150@trndny07...
>I (my brother in law, really) have a computer that has a SERIOUS case of
>The Slows. It takes FOREVER to open apps, and complete any number of
>different tasks.
>
> It is an off-brand box that came from Fry's (I think). I don't recall what
> the architecture is, but I'm pretty sure my 286-based laptop was faster.
>
> The computer is on its way to my house for a checkout. I'm not sure what
> my strategy will be.
>
> The machine has a valid version of XP Home edition, but I do not know if
> it has the Restore CD or not. Can I use a different copy of XP to do
> restore operations? I assume that I have to use the Key Code that is on
> the computer, not the one that belongs to the copy of XP that I will
> restore from.
>
> Do not hesitate to offer suggestions on what to do ...
>
>
>
