Re: {OT} -- Computer Problem -- UPDATE, FIXED (I think)
 

On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 10:07:03 -0700, "Earle Horton"
<el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote:

>"noneofyourbusiness" <top.secret@needtoknow.org> wrote in message
>news:25k6r2plclf4t4ea9216gvphp7b7lra6ft@4ax.com.. .
>> On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 09:50:51 -0700, "Earle Horton"
>> <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Gamers don't like the built-in video cards that you get with a lot of
>> >motherboards, because they are "cheap" and not as "gnarly" as a
>> >$300.00 AGP card that comes with its own cooling fan. On the
>> >other hand, you rarely get compatibility problems with built-in cards.
>> >
>> >Earle
>> >
>>
>> On-board video rarely supports the *features* most modern games
>> require...THATS why most gamers don't use on-board video :o
>>
>"Features" = "gnarly". Mike no doubt has a card that requires an
>initialization sequence that is not being done properly by the driver that
>he has installed. In that case, it is trying to emulate everything in
>software, with the results that he has posted. Unless he is actually a
>gamer (rhymes with lamer) I would recommend pitching it in the trash and
>sticking with the old PCI card.
>
>Earle
>

He says that the card is slower even during boot up, which happens
before drivers are loaded, so it's more than a driver issue. But,
seeing as both of the cards he mentioned ARE ancient by any standards
<g>, it might not be worth the time spent so far. If he wants to play
any of the current games out there, he'll need something newer/better,
anyway and if he isn't, then that old (trident?) card should be good
enough (but I doubt it will be as some "basic" windows apps out there
now require DX9 support).

And don't be slammin us gamers! :o

....

Re: {OT} -- Computer Problem -- UPDATE, FIXED (I think)
 

On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 10:07:03 -0700, "Earle Horton"
<el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote:

>"noneofyourbusiness" <top.secret@needtoknow.org> wrote in message
>news:25k6r2plclf4t4ea9216gvphp7b7lra6ft@4ax.com.. .
>> On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 09:50:51 -0700, "Earle Horton"
>> <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Gamers don't like the built-in video cards that you get with a lot of
>> >motherboards, because they are "cheap" and not as "gnarly" as a
>> >$300.00 AGP card that comes with its own cooling fan. On the
>> >other hand, you rarely get compatibility problems with built-in cards.
>> >
>> >Earle
>> >
>>
>> On-board video rarely supports the *features* most modern games
>> require...THATS why most gamers don't use on-board video :o
>>
>"Features" = "gnarly". Mike no doubt has a card that requires an
>initialization sequence that is not being done properly by the driver that
>he has installed. In that case, it is trying to emulate everything in
>software, with the results that he has posted. Unless he is actually a
>gamer (rhymes with lamer) I would recommend pitching it in the trash and
>sticking with the old PCI card.
>
>Earle
>

He says that the card is slower even during boot up, which happens
before drivers are loaded, so it's more than a driver issue. But,
seeing as both of the cards he mentioned ARE ancient by any standards
<g>, it might not be worth the time spent so far. If he wants to play
any of the current games out there, he'll need something newer/better,
anyway and if he isn't, then that old (trident?) card should be good
enough (but I doubt it will be as some "basic" windows apps out there
now require DX9 support).

And don't be slammin us gamers! :o

....

Re: {OT} -- Computer Problem -- UPDATE, FIXED (I think)
 

On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 10:07:03 -0700, "Earle Horton"
<el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote:

>"noneofyourbusiness" <top.secret@needtoknow.org> wrote in message
>news:25k6r2plclf4t4ea9216gvphp7b7lra6ft@4ax.com.. .
>> On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 09:50:51 -0700, "Earle Horton"
>> <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Gamers don't like the built-in video cards that you get with a lot of
>> >motherboards, because they are "cheap" and not as "gnarly" as a
>> >$300.00 AGP card that comes with its own cooling fan. On the
>> >other hand, you rarely get compatibility problems with built-in cards.
>> >
>> >Earle
>> >
>>
>> On-board video rarely supports the *features* most modern games
>> require...THATS why most gamers don't use on-board video :o
>>
>"Features" = "gnarly". Mike no doubt has a card that requires an
>initialization sequence that is not being done properly by the driver that
>he has installed. In that case, it is trying to emulate everything in
>software, with the results that he has posted. Unless he is actually a
>gamer (rhymes with lamer) I would recommend pitching it in the trash and
>sticking with the old PCI card.
>
>Earle
>

He says that the card is slower even during boot up, which happens
before drivers are loaded, so it's more than a driver issue. But,
seeing as both of the cards he mentioned ARE ancient by any standards
<g>, it might not be worth the time spent so far. If he wants to play
any of the current games out there, he'll need something newer/better,
anyway and if he isn't, then that old (trident?) card should be good
enough (but I doubt it will be as some "basic" windows apps out there
now require DX9 support).

And don't be slammin us gamers! :o

....

Re: {OT} -- Computer Problem -- UPDATE, FIXED (I think)
 

noneofyourbusiness proclaimed:

> On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 09:50:51 -0700, "Earle Horton"
> <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Gamers don't like the built-in video cards that you get with a lot of
>>motherboards, because they are "cheap" and not as "gnarly" as a $300.00 AGP
>>card that comes with its own cooling fan. On the other hand, you rarely get
>>compatibility problems with built-in cards.
>>
>>Earle
>>
>
>
> On-board video rarely supports the *features* most modern games
> require...THATS why most gamers don't use on-board video :o

Much like real jeep mottos, real gamer systems NEVER use on board video.
There is the build yer own crowd and the just buy a Falcon crowd. And
sometimes the help poor kids buy an Alienware charity pitch.

Re: {OT} -- Computer Problem -- UPDATE, FIXED (I think)
 

noneofyourbusiness proclaimed:

> On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 09:50:51 -0700, "Earle Horton"
> <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Gamers don't like the built-in video cards that you get with a lot of
>>motherboards, because they are "cheap" and not as "gnarly" as a $300.00 AGP
>>card that comes with its own cooling fan. On the other hand, you rarely get
>>compatibility problems with built-in cards.
>>
>>Earle
>>
>
>
> On-board video rarely supports the *features* most modern games
> require...THATS why most gamers don't use on-board video :o

Much like real jeep mottos, real gamer systems NEVER use on board video.
There is the build yer own crowd and the just buy a Falcon crowd. And
sometimes the help poor kids buy an Alienware charity pitch.

Re: {OT} -- Computer Problem -- UPDATE, FIXED (I think)
 

noneofyourbusiness proclaimed:

> On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 09:50:51 -0700, "Earle Horton"
> <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Gamers don't like the built-in video cards that you get with a lot of
>>motherboards, because they are "cheap" and not as "gnarly" as a $300.00 AGP
>>card that comes with its own cooling fan. On the other hand, you rarely get
>>compatibility problems with built-in cards.
>>
>>Earle
>>
>
>
> On-board video rarely supports the *features* most modern games
> require...THATS why most gamers don't use on-board video :o

Much like real jeep mottos, real gamer systems NEVER use on board video.
There is the build yer own crowd and the just buy a Falcon crowd. And
sometimes the help poor kids buy an Alienware charity pitch.

Re: {OT} -- Computer Problem -- UPDATE, FIXED (I think)
 

noneofyourbusiness proclaimed:

> On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 09:50:51 -0700, "Earle Horton"
> <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Gamers don't like the built-in video cards that you get with a lot of
>>motherboards, because they are "cheap" and not as "gnarly" as a $300.00 AGP
>>card that comes with its own cooling fan. On the other hand, you rarely get
>>compatibility problems with built-in cards.
>>
>>Earle
>>
>
>
> On-board video rarely supports the *features* most modern games
> require...THATS why most gamers don't use on-board video :o

Much like real jeep mottos, real gamer systems NEVER use on board video.
There is the build yer own crowd and the just buy a Falcon crowd. And
sometimes the help poor kids buy an Alienware charity pitch.

Re: {OT} -- Computer Problem -- UPDATE, FIXED (I think)
 

Earle Horton wrote:
> "noneofyourbusiness" <top.secret@needtoknow.org> wrote in message
> news:25k6r2plclf4t4ea9216gvphp7b7lra6ft@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 09:50:51 -0700, "Earle Horton"
>> <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Gamers don't like the built-in video cards that you get with a lot of
>>> motherboards, because they are "cheap" and not as "gnarly" as a
>>> $300.00 AGP card that comes with its own cooling fan. On the
>>> other hand, you rarely get compatibility problems with built-in cards.
>>>
>>> Earle
>>>
>> On-board video rarely supports the *features* most modern games
>> require...THATS why most gamers don't use on-board video :o
>>
> "Features" = "gnarly". Mike no doubt has a card that requires an
> initialization sequence that is not being done properly by the driver that
> he has installed. In that case, it is trying to emulate everything in
> software, with the results that he has posted. Unless he is actually a
> gamer (rhymes with lamer) I would recommend pitching it in the trash and
> sticking with the old PCI card.
>
> Earle
>
>

Yup, I am not a gamer and my PC has never rocked so fast than with the
straight 4M pci card. It will even multi task for the first time!

I am happy.

I am thinking it might be a monitor issue. It is an NCR with no
available drivers, but still the boot issue... Oh well.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Re: {OT} -- Computer Problem -- UPDATE, FIXED (I think)
 

Earle Horton wrote:
> "noneofyourbusiness" <top.secret@needtoknow.org> wrote in message
> news:25k6r2plclf4t4ea9216gvphp7b7lra6ft@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 09:50:51 -0700, "Earle Horton"
>> <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Gamers don't like the built-in video cards that you get with a lot of
>>> motherboards, because they are "cheap" and not as "gnarly" as a
>>> $300.00 AGP card that comes with its own cooling fan. On the
>>> other hand, you rarely get compatibility problems with built-in cards.
>>>
>>> Earle
>>>
>> On-board video rarely supports the *features* most modern games
>> require...THATS why most gamers don't use on-board video :o
>>
> "Features" = "gnarly". Mike no doubt has a card that requires an
> initialization sequence that is not being done properly by the driver that
> he has installed. In that case, it is trying to emulate everything in
> software, with the results that he has posted. Unless he is actually a
> gamer (rhymes with lamer) I would recommend pitching it in the trash and
> sticking with the old PCI card.
>
> Earle
>
>

Yup, I am not a gamer and my PC has never rocked so fast than with the
straight 4M pci card. It will even multi task for the first time!

I am happy.

I am thinking it might be a monitor issue. It is an NCR with no
available drivers, but still the boot issue... Oh well.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Re: {OT} -- Computer Problem -- UPDATE, FIXED (I think)
 

Earle Horton wrote:
> "noneofyourbusiness" <top.secret@needtoknow.org> wrote in message
> news:25k6r2plclf4t4ea9216gvphp7b7lra6ft@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 09:50:51 -0700, "Earle Horton"
>> <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Gamers don't like the built-in video cards that you get with a lot of
>>> motherboards, because they are "cheap" and not as "gnarly" as a
>>> $300.00 AGP card that comes with its own cooling fan. On the
>>> other hand, you rarely get compatibility problems with built-in cards.
>>>
>>> Earle
>>>
>> On-board video rarely supports the *features* most modern games
>> require...THATS why most gamers don't use on-board video :o
>>
> "Features" = "gnarly". Mike no doubt has a card that requires an
> initialization sequence that is not being done properly by the driver that
> he has installed. In that case, it is trying to emulate everything in
> software, with the results that he has posted. Unless he is actually a
> gamer (rhymes with lamer) I would recommend pitching it in the trash and
> sticking with the old PCI card.
>
> Earle
>
>

Yup, I am not a gamer and my PC has never rocked so fast than with the
straight 4M pci card. It will even multi task for the first time!

I am happy.

I am thinking it might be a monitor issue. It is an NCR with no
available drivers, but still the boot issue... Oh well.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)