Re: {OT} -- Computer Problem
 

"Curtis" <cchandler63@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1169155608.519362.42250@v45g2000cwv.googlegro ups.com...
> personally I would atttempt to figure out the offending application or
> driver before loading _anything_ .
>
> boot the workstation up, bring up task manager, take a look at your
> resources, what is using the most memory, what is the CPU at, you may
> find a service or app is using tons of memory...an example would be AOL
> messenger...if so de-install or kill that process.
>
I know how to start the Task Manager and move around inside of it. My
trouble is that I do not know what are valid applications that NEED to run,
and what apps that are running that do not need to be. I went around and
turnd stuff off once, and shut down essential services.


> It sounds to me if the box is dead slow unless your hard drive is
> spinning endlessly, you probably have your memory or cpu maxed out by
> some process.
>
> If your hard disk is spinning endlessly, you can always remove your
> pagefile then defrag then add it back. if the page file gets fragmented
> especially with low RAM it can slow things down...
>

Not the problem at all. The computer runs, it just runs slowly. Task
Manager's Performance window was stuck at close to 100% almost all of the
time.

I NEED TO REPORT
Since I removed some legacy crapola that was in the Registry, and
uninstalled McAfee Security Suite, the machine runs pretty good now.

Talk to me about the Page File some more. I made some changes to the size
(made it larger), but that did not change anything for the better. (The good
news is that it did not change anything for the worse either.)

Should I be trying to manually set the Page File, or should I allow Windows
to make the necessary settings? I have plenty of hard drive space for the
maximum page file, so I do not need to walk the tightrope between storage
space and performance.

Re: {OT} -- Computer Problem
 

"Curtis" <cchandler63@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1169155608.519362.42250@v45g2000cwv.googlegro ups.com...
> personally I would atttempt to figure out the offending application or
> driver before loading _anything_ .
>
> boot the workstation up, bring up task manager, take a look at your
> resources, what is using the most memory, what is the CPU at, you may
> find a service or app is using tons of memory...an example would be AOL
> messenger...if so de-install or kill that process.
>
I know how to start the Task Manager and move around inside of it. My
trouble is that I do not know what are valid applications that NEED to run,
and what apps that are running that do not need to be. I went around and
turnd stuff off once, and shut down essential services.


> It sounds to me if the box is dead slow unless your hard drive is
> spinning endlessly, you probably have your memory or cpu maxed out by
> some process.
>
> If your hard disk is spinning endlessly, you can always remove your
> pagefile then defrag then add it back. if the page file gets fragmented
> especially with low RAM it can slow things down...
>

Not the problem at all. The computer runs, it just runs slowly. Task
Manager's Performance window was stuck at close to 100% almost all of the
time.

I NEED TO REPORT
Since I removed some legacy crapola that was in the Registry, and
uninstalled McAfee Security Suite, the machine runs pretty good now.

Talk to me about the Page File some more. I made some changes to the size
(made it larger), but that did not change anything for the better. (The good
news is that it did not change anything for the worse either.)

Should I be trying to manually set the Page File, or should I allow Windows
to make the necessary settings? I have plenty of hard drive space for the
maximum page file, so I do not need to walk the tightrope between storage
space and performance.

Re: {OT} -- Computer Problem
 

"Curtis" <cchandler63@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1169155608.519362.42250@v45g2000cwv.googlegro ups.com...
> personally I would atttempt to figure out the offending application or
> driver before loading _anything_ .
>
> boot the workstation up, bring up task manager, take a look at your
> resources, what is using the most memory, what is the CPU at, you may
> find a service or app is using tons of memory...an example would be AOL
> messenger...if so de-install or kill that process.
>
I know how to start the Task Manager and move around inside of it. My
trouble is that I do not know what are valid applications that NEED to run,
and what apps that are running that do not need to be. I went around and
turnd stuff off once, and shut down essential services.


> It sounds to me if the box is dead slow unless your hard drive is
> spinning endlessly, you probably have your memory or cpu maxed out by
> some process.
>
> If your hard disk is spinning endlessly, you can always remove your
> pagefile then defrag then add it back. if the page file gets fragmented
> especially with low RAM it can slow things down...
>

Not the problem at all. The computer runs, it just runs slowly. Task
Manager's Performance window was stuck at close to 100% almost all of the
time.

I NEED TO REPORT
Since I removed some legacy crapola that was in the Registry, and
uninstalled McAfee Security Suite, the machine runs pretty good now.

Talk to me about the Page File some more. I made some changes to the size
(made it larger), but that did not change anything for the better. (The good
news is that it did not change anything for the worse either.)

Should I be trying to manually set the Page File, or should I allow Windows
to make the necessary settings? I have plenty of hard drive space for the
maximum page file, so I do not need to walk the tightrope between storage
space and performance.

Re: {OT} -- Computer Problem
 

Yes, but is it farked up as soon as they take it out of the trunk and carry
it back inside?





"ufatbastehd" <ufatbasted@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1169156258.166568.54100@11g2000cwr.googlegrou ps.com...
> Earl you are so right. As the resident Techie in my family I should
> have screwed up my first few times I helped out. Now I get the machines
> running smooth only to have it farked up again by those I just fixed
> it for.
>
>
>
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>> Don't let relatives know that you have computer expertise. If you get
>> assigned a computer maintenance or repair job, screw it up. If you are
>> not
>> going to listen to reason, the following may be helpful.
>>
>> Run http://securitycheck.symantec.com no matter what kind of anti-virus
>> is
>> on the machine now.
>>
>> Defrag the hard drive and make sure that it is not almost full.
>>
>> Put XP Professional on it.
>>
>> Make him justify any non-Microsoft software that he has installed.
>>
>> Earle
>>
>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:KBPrh.21233$wq.14150@trndny07...
>> > I (my brother in law, really) have a computer that has a SERIOUS case
>> > of
>> The
>> > Slows. It takes FOREVER to open apps, and complete any number of
>> > different
>> > tasks.
>> >
>> > It is an off-brand box that came from Fry's (I think). I don't recall
>> > what
>> > the architecture is, but I'm pretty sure my 286-based laptop was
>> > faster.
>> >
>> > The computer is on its way to my house for a checkout. I'm not sure
>> > what
>> my
>> > strategy will be.
>> >
>> > The machine has a valid version of XP Home edition, but I do not know
>> > if
>> it
>> > has the Restore CD or not. Can I use a different copy of XP to do
>> > restore
>> > operations? I assume that I have to use the Key Code that is on the
>> > computer, not the one that belongs to the copy of XP that I will
>> > restore
>> > from.
>> >
>> > Do not hesitate to offer suggestions on what to do ...
>> >
>> >
>> >
>

Re: {OT} -- Computer Problem
 

Yes, but is it farked up as soon as they take it out of the trunk and carry
it back inside?





"ufatbastehd" <ufatbasted@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1169156258.166568.54100@11g2000cwr.googlegrou ps.com...
> Earl you are so right. As the resident Techie in my family I should
> have screwed up my first few times I helped out. Now I get the machines
> running smooth only to have it farked up again by those I just fixed
> it for.
>
>
>
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>> Don't let relatives know that you have computer expertise. If you get
>> assigned a computer maintenance or repair job, screw it up. If you are
>> not
>> going to listen to reason, the following may be helpful.
>>
>> Run http://securitycheck.symantec.com no matter what kind of anti-virus
>> is
>> on the machine now.
>>
>> Defrag the hard drive and make sure that it is not almost full.
>>
>> Put XP Professional on it.
>>
>> Make him justify any non-Microsoft software that he has installed.
>>
>> Earle
>>
>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:KBPrh.21233$wq.14150@trndny07...
>> > I (my brother in law, really) have a computer that has a SERIOUS case
>> > of
>> The
>> > Slows. It takes FOREVER to open apps, and complete any number of
>> > different
>> > tasks.
>> >
>> > It is an off-brand box that came from Fry's (I think). I don't recall
>> > what
>> > the architecture is, but I'm pretty sure my 286-based laptop was
>> > faster.
>> >
>> > The computer is on its way to my house for a checkout. I'm not sure
>> > what
>> my
>> > strategy will be.
>> >
>> > The machine has a valid version of XP Home edition, but I do not know
>> > if
>> it
>> > has the Restore CD or not. Can I use a different copy of XP to do
>> > restore
>> > operations? I assume that I have to use the Key Code that is on the
>> > computer, not the one that belongs to the copy of XP that I will
>> > restore
>> > from.
>> >
>> > Do not hesitate to offer suggestions on what to do ...
>> >
>> >
>> >
>

Re: {OT} -- Computer Problem
 

Yes, but is it farked up as soon as they take it out of the trunk and carry
it back inside?





"ufatbastehd" <ufatbasted@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1169156258.166568.54100@11g2000cwr.googlegrou ps.com...
> Earl you are so right. As the resident Techie in my family I should
> have screwed up my first few times I helped out. Now I get the machines
> running smooth only to have it farked up again by those I just fixed
> it for.
>
>
>
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>> Don't let relatives know that you have computer expertise. If you get
>> assigned a computer maintenance or repair job, screw it up. If you are
>> not
>> going to listen to reason, the following may be helpful.
>>
>> Run http://securitycheck.symantec.com no matter what kind of anti-virus
>> is
>> on the machine now.
>>
>> Defrag the hard drive and make sure that it is not almost full.
>>
>> Put XP Professional on it.
>>
>> Make him justify any non-Microsoft software that he has installed.
>>
>> Earle
>>
>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:KBPrh.21233$wq.14150@trndny07...
>> > I (my brother in law, really) have a computer that has a SERIOUS case
>> > of
>> The
>> > Slows. It takes FOREVER to open apps, and complete any number of
>> > different
>> > tasks.
>> >
>> > It is an off-brand box that came from Fry's (I think). I don't recall
>> > what
>> > the architecture is, but I'm pretty sure my 286-based laptop was
>> > faster.
>> >
>> > The computer is on its way to my house for a checkout. I'm not sure
>> > what
>> my
>> > strategy will be.
>> >
>> > The machine has a valid version of XP Home edition, but I do not know
>> > if
>> it
>> > has the Restore CD or not. Can I use a different copy of XP to do
>> > restore
>> > operations? I assume that I have to use the Key Code that is on the
>> > computer, not the one that belongs to the copy of XP that I will
>> > restore
>> > from.
>> >
>> > Do not hesitate to offer suggestions on what to do ...
>> >
>> >
>> >
>

Re: {OT} -- Computer Problem
 

Yes, but is it farked up as soon as they take it out of the trunk and carry
it back inside?





"ufatbastehd" <ufatbasted@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1169156258.166568.54100@11g2000cwr.googlegrou ps.com...
> Earl you are so right. As the resident Techie in my family I should
> have screwed up my first few times I helped out. Now I get the machines
> running smooth only to have it farked up again by those I just fixed
> it for.
>
>
>
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>> Don't let relatives know that you have computer expertise. If you get
>> assigned a computer maintenance or repair job, screw it up. If you are
>> not
>> going to listen to reason, the following may be helpful.
>>
>> Run http://securitycheck.symantec.com no matter what kind of anti-virus
>> is
>> on the machine now.
>>
>> Defrag the hard drive and make sure that it is not almost full.
>>
>> Put XP Professional on it.
>>
>> Make him justify any non-Microsoft software that he has installed.
>>
>> Earle
>>
>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:KBPrh.21233$wq.14150@trndny07...
>> > I (my brother in law, really) have a computer that has a SERIOUS case
>> > of
>> The
>> > Slows. It takes FOREVER to open apps, and complete any number of
>> > different
>> > tasks.
>> >
>> > It is an off-brand box that came from Fry's (I think). I don't recall
>> > what
>> > the architecture is, but I'm pretty sure my 286-based laptop was
>> > faster.
>> >
>> > The computer is on its way to my house for a checkout. I'm not sure
>> > what
>> my
>> > strategy will be.
>> >
>> > The machine has a valid version of XP Home edition, but I do not know
>> > if
>> it
>> > has the Restore CD or not. Can I use a different copy of XP to do
>> > restore
>> > operations? I assume that I have to use the Key Code that is on the
>> > computer, not the one that belongs to the copy of XP that I will
>> > restore
>> > from.
>> >
>> > Do not hesitate to offer suggestions on what to do ...
>> >
>> >
>> >
>

Re: {OT} -- Computer Problem
 

It was once pointed out that one can be neither too rich, too thin, or have
too much RAM.

I dispute that rule, one CAN be too thin -- though it's much easier to be
too fat.





"James" <jnipperxxx@nospamfdn.com> wrote in message
news:2K-dndv6l55XcjLYnZ2dnUVZ_tKjnZ2d@comcast.com...
> With Windows XP, you are a bit underpowered on ram. Many folks believe
> that 512 mb is minimum, and more is better.
>
> Good luck !!
>
> --james--
>
>

Re: {OT} -- Computer Problem
 

It was once pointed out that one can be neither too rich, too thin, or have
too much RAM.

I dispute that rule, one CAN be too thin -- though it's much easier to be
too fat.





"James" <jnipperxxx@nospamfdn.com> wrote in message
news:2K-dndv6l55XcjLYnZ2dnUVZ_tKjnZ2d@comcast.com...
> With Windows XP, you are a bit underpowered on ram. Many folks believe
> that 512 mb is minimum, and more is better.
>
> Good luck !!
>
> --james--
>
>

Re: {OT} -- Computer Problem
 

It was once pointed out that one can be neither too rich, too thin, or have
too much RAM.

I dispute that rule, one CAN be too thin -- though it's much easier to be
too fat.





"James" <jnipperxxx@nospamfdn.com> wrote in message
news:2K-dndv6l55XcjLYnZ2dnUVZ_tKjnZ2d@comcast.com...
> With Windows XP, you are a bit underpowered on ram. Many folks believe
> that 512 mb is minimum, and more is better.
>
> Good luck !!
>
> --james--
>
>