{{ OT }} Computerj (PC) Troubles with PCI Buss
08-08-2007, 09:55 PM
#541
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Re: {{ OT }} Computerj (PC) Troubles with PCI Buss
On Aug 7, 10:59 pm, witfal <nos...@all4.me> wrote:
> There are Macs and two PCs in our home.
>
> All this makes me love Macs even more.
Which is why Macs are upgrading to Intel hardware? Chances are the
OP bought a clone computer. Such computers sell so much cheaper than
your Mac by 'forgetting' to include many functions that are required
by the Intel architecture.
Unfortunately, many who then build these clone computers have so
little grasp as to 'shotgun'. For example, it must be an interrupt
conflict. Or it must be a disk drive.
Meanwhile, responsible computer manufacturers include comprehensive
hardware diagnostics with the machine. Apple that also uses the
same Intel hardware also provides diagnostics. Then people who fix
such machines need not shotgun - try this and replace that until
something might be working.
I'm looking at so many responses to Jeff Strickland that are not
based in knowledge of computers. Too many clone computer promoters
have never even seen a comprehensive hardware diagnostic - don't even
know how few hardware items can create Jeff's problem. So they
shotgun.
Jeff - provided are simple and first steps that anyone with
fundamental knowledge would recommend. As even with the Mac, first
identify the problem before 'fixing' anything. Until you have numbers
from the power supply 'system' (a same 'system' found in Macs), then
you have no idea what is bad and is good.
> There are Macs and two PCs in our home.
>
> All this makes me love Macs even more.
Which is why Macs are upgrading to Intel hardware? Chances are the
OP bought a clone computer. Such computers sell so much cheaper than
your Mac by 'forgetting' to include many functions that are required
by the Intel architecture.
Unfortunately, many who then build these clone computers have so
little grasp as to 'shotgun'. For example, it must be an interrupt
conflict. Or it must be a disk drive.
Meanwhile, responsible computer manufacturers include comprehensive
hardware diagnostics with the machine. Apple that also uses the
same Intel hardware also provides diagnostics. Then people who fix
such machines need not shotgun - try this and replace that until
something might be working.
I'm looking at so many responses to Jeff Strickland that are not
based in knowledge of computers. Too many clone computer promoters
have never even seen a comprehensive hardware diagnostic - don't even
know how few hardware items can create Jeff's problem. So they
shotgun.
Jeff - provided are simple and first steps that anyone with
fundamental knowledge would recommend. As even with the Mac, first
identify the problem before 'fixing' anything. Until you have numbers
from the power supply 'system' (a same 'system' found in Macs), then
you have no idea what is bad and is good.
08-09-2007, 12:45 AM
#542
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Re: {{ OT }} Computerj (PC) Troubles with PCI Buss
On 2007-08-08 18:55:33 -0700, w_tom <w_tom1@usa.net> said:
> On Aug 7, 10:59 pm, witfal <nos...@all4.me> wrote:
>> There are Macs and two PCs in our home.
>>
>> All this makes me love Macs even more.
>
> Which is why Macs are upgrading to Intel hardware? Chances are the
> OP bought a clone computer. Such computers sell so much cheaper than
> your Mac by 'forgetting' to include many functions that are required
> by the Intel architecture.
Are upgrading? That boat sailed a long time ago.
The fundamental problem isn't hardware. Sure you can buy PC junk, but
if you have a reputable brand built with good components, the hardware
isn't the problem.
It's just bad code.
> On Aug 7, 10:59 pm, witfal <nos...@all4.me> wrote:
>> There are Macs and two PCs in our home.
>>
>> All this makes me love Macs even more.
>
> Which is why Macs are upgrading to Intel hardware? Chances are the
> OP bought a clone computer. Such computers sell so much cheaper than
> your Mac by 'forgetting' to include many functions that are required
> by the Intel architecture.
Are upgrading? That boat sailed a long time ago.
The fundamental problem isn't hardware. Sure you can buy PC junk, but
if you have a reputable brand built with good components, the hardware
isn't the problem.
It's just bad code.
08-09-2007, 12:45 AM
#543
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Re: {{ OT }} Computerj (PC) Troubles with PCI Buss
On 2007-08-08 18:55:33 -0700, w_tom <w_tom1@usa.net> said:
> On Aug 7, 10:59 pm, witfal <nos...@all4.me> wrote:
>> There are Macs and two PCs in our home.
>>
>> All this makes me love Macs even more.
>
> Which is why Macs are upgrading to Intel hardware? Chances are the
> OP bought a clone computer. Such computers sell so much cheaper than
> your Mac by 'forgetting' to include many functions that are required
> by the Intel architecture.
Are upgrading? That boat sailed a long time ago.
The fundamental problem isn't hardware. Sure you can buy PC junk, but
if you have a reputable brand built with good components, the hardware
isn't the problem.
It's just bad code.
> On Aug 7, 10:59 pm, witfal <nos...@all4.me> wrote:
>> There are Macs and two PCs in our home.
>>
>> All this makes me love Macs even more.
>
> Which is why Macs are upgrading to Intel hardware? Chances are the
> OP bought a clone computer. Such computers sell so much cheaper than
> your Mac by 'forgetting' to include many functions that are required
> by the Intel architecture.
Are upgrading? That boat sailed a long time ago.
The fundamental problem isn't hardware. Sure you can buy PC junk, but
if you have a reputable brand built with good components, the hardware
isn't the problem.
It's just bad code.
08-09-2007, 12:45 AM
#544
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Re: {{ OT }} Computerj (PC) Troubles with PCI Buss
On 2007-08-08 18:55:33 -0700, w_tom <w_tom1@usa.net> said:
> On Aug 7, 10:59 pm, witfal <nos...@all4.me> wrote:
>> There are Macs and two PCs in our home.
>>
>> All this makes me love Macs even more.
>
> Which is why Macs are upgrading to Intel hardware? Chances are the
> OP bought a clone computer. Such computers sell so much cheaper than
> your Mac by 'forgetting' to include many functions that are required
> by the Intel architecture.
Are upgrading? That boat sailed a long time ago.
The fundamental problem isn't hardware. Sure you can buy PC junk, but
if you have a reputable brand built with good components, the hardware
isn't the problem.
It's just bad code.
> On Aug 7, 10:59 pm, witfal <nos...@all4.me> wrote:
>> There are Macs and two PCs in our home.
>>
>> All this makes me love Macs even more.
>
> Which is why Macs are upgrading to Intel hardware? Chances are the
> OP bought a clone computer. Such computers sell so much cheaper than
> your Mac by 'forgetting' to include many functions that are required
> by the Intel architecture.
Are upgrading? That boat sailed a long time ago.
The fundamental problem isn't hardware. Sure you can buy PC junk, but
if you have a reputable brand built with good components, the hardware
isn't the problem.
It's just bad code.
08-09-2007, 12:45 AM
#545
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Re: {{ OT }} Computerj (PC) Troubles with PCI Buss
On 2007-08-08 18:55:33 -0700, w_tom <w_tom1@usa.net> said:
> On Aug 7, 10:59 pm, witfal <nos...@all4.me> wrote:
>> There are Macs and two PCs in our home.
>>
>> All this makes me love Macs even more.
>
> Which is why Macs are upgrading to Intel hardware? Chances are the
> OP bought a clone computer. Such computers sell so much cheaper than
> your Mac by 'forgetting' to include many functions that are required
> by the Intel architecture.
Are upgrading? That boat sailed a long time ago.
The fundamental problem isn't hardware. Sure you can buy PC junk, but
if you have a reputable brand built with good components, the hardware
isn't the problem.
It's just bad code.
> On Aug 7, 10:59 pm, witfal <nos...@all4.me> wrote:
>> There are Macs and two PCs in our home.
>>
>> All this makes me love Macs even more.
>
> Which is why Macs are upgrading to Intel hardware? Chances are the
> OP bought a clone computer. Such computers sell so much cheaper than
> your Mac by 'forgetting' to include many functions that are required
> by the Intel architecture.
Are upgrading? That boat sailed a long time ago.
The fundamental problem isn't hardware. Sure you can buy PC junk, but
if you have a reputable brand built with good components, the hardware
isn't the problem.
It's just bad code.
08-10-2007, 08:30 PM
#546
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Re: {{ OT }} Computerj (PC) Troubles with PCI Buss
On Aug 9, 12:45 am, witfal <nos...@all4.me> wrote:
> It's just bad code.
The problem is hardware. Where code is involved, the code is now
shared by PC and Macs.
If buying a clone computer, then important code is missing:
comprehensive hardware diagnostics. Better computers come with free
and comprehensive diagnostics that boot and execute without adding
complexity of an Operating System - Windows, Linux, or OSX.
> It's just bad code.
The problem is hardware. Where code is involved, the code is now
shared by PC and Macs.
If buying a clone computer, then important code is missing:
comprehensive hardware diagnostics. Better computers come with free
and comprehensive diagnostics that boot and execute without adding
complexity of an Operating System - Windows, Linux, or OSX.
08-10-2007, 08:30 PM
#547
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Posts: n/a
Re: {{ OT }} Computerj (PC) Troubles with PCI Buss
On Aug 9, 12:45 am, witfal <nos...@all4.me> wrote:
> It's just bad code.
The problem is hardware. Where code is involved, the code is now
shared by PC and Macs.
If buying a clone computer, then important code is missing:
comprehensive hardware diagnostics. Better computers come with free
and comprehensive diagnostics that boot and execute without adding
complexity of an Operating System - Windows, Linux, or OSX.
> It's just bad code.
The problem is hardware. Where code is involved, the code is now
shared by PC and Macs.
If buying a clone computer, then important code is missing:
comprehensive hardware diagnostics. Better computers come with free
and comprehensive diagnostics that boot and execute without adding
complexity of an Operating System - Windows, Linux, or OSX.
08-10-2007, 08:30 PM
#548
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Posts: n/a
Re: {{ OT }} Computerj (PC) Troubles with PCI Buss
On Aug 9, 12:45 am, witfal <nos...@all4.me> wrote:
> It's just bad code.
The problem is hardware. Where code is involved, the code is now
shared by PC and Macs.
If buying a clone computer, then important code is missing:
comprehensive hardware diagnostics. Better computers come with free
and comprehensive diagnostics that boot and execute without adding
complexity of an Operating System - Windows, Linux, or OSX.
> It's just bad code.
The problem is hardware. Where code is involved, the code is now
shared by PC and Macs.
If buying a clone computer, then important code is missing:
comprehensive hardware diagnostics. Better computers come with free
and comprehensive diagnostics that boot and execute without adding
complexity of an Operating System - Windows, Linux, or OSX.
08-10-2007, 08:30 PM
#549
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Posts: n/a
Re: {{ OT }} Computerj (PC) Troubles with PCI Buss
On Aug 9, 12:45 am, witfal <nos...@all4.me> wrote:
> It's just bad code.
The problem is hardware. Where code is involved, the code is now
shared by PC and Macs.
If buying a clone computer, then important code is missing:
comprehensive hardware diagnostics. Better computers come with free
and comprehensive diagnostics that boot and execute without adding
complexity of an Operating System - Windows, Linux, or OSX.
> It's just bad code.
The problem is hardware. Where code is involved, the code is now
shared by PC and Macs.
If buying a clone computer, then important code is missing:
comprehensive hardware diagnostics. Better computers come with free
and comprehensive diagnostics that boot and execute without adding
complexity of an Operating System - Windows, Linux, or OSX.
11-25-2007, 03:34 AM
#550
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Re: {{ OT }} Computerj (PC) Troubles with PCI Buss
L.W. (Bill) ------ III added these comments in the current
discussion du jour ...
> This from the biggest loser of them all! The jealous,
> really jealous, I
> can't believe how jealous this little draft dodging coward
> schizophrenic psychopath liar hiding in Vancouver via
> S0106000ea6ba70e7.vn.shawcable.net 24.86.24.251
> intrepidator@shaw.ca who's only way to get attention is to
> make a fool of its self. With an obsession with perverts and
> goats, where it writes via remailers, @news.alt.net, and cross
> posts to other perverts to no one's surprise. With extreme
> jealous ranting over my documents, possessions, successes,
> manliness and fine, Southern California surfing body, beard,
> and loving Christian family. Committing forgery over many of
> my posts, proving I'm a responsible American man. You remind
> me of a little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its
> senseless barking, me too, me too. You're even more senile
> than I first thought. And the poor thing, you're too girlie to
> take responsibility for yourself again, by signing your
> statement like a man.
> That really thinks the group's members are so stupid not
> to know it's
> the same coward, posting over and over again using a
> schizophrenic psychopath forged up names?
> You're not worth any more time when a cut and paste this
> same
> paragraphs it fits so well!
> But, now worth a forwarding to: internet.help@shaw.ca,
> security@shaw.ca, abuse@shaw.ca, internet.abuse@sjrb.ca,
> abuse@aioe.org, admin@***.net for forgery.
> Who said it also likes baby monkeys sucking their -----,
> like his buddy
> posted on an auto picture group at:
> news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com
> I thought this traitor's attacks were just over personal
> disagreements,
> but in reality these attacks stemming from my love of God and
> America on Independents Week, I realized you are actually
> attacking my country, and that's what you've been doing all
> along is declaring your hatred for the United States of
> America, with each declaration of my signature, but just too
> cowardly and stupid to be a ---------. It's America, love it,
> or leave it, so keep the f*ck out!
> Or let me know when you cross my American border, so I
> may arrest you! YOU ARE A TRAITOR and lost all rights to
> my American border, and
so, now you've switched to calling people a traitor? funny coming
from a COWARD who was summarily dismissed from the U.S. military
and doctored up somebody else's DD-214. this COWARD's way out is
indictative of your long-standing infantile and ficticious life
you've created for yourself as you cannot stand the sad, mundane
life of a miscreant who has owned nothing, accomplished nothing,
and been awarded nothing - i.e., except a criminal record and a
medical mentally ill record. rant on, moron!
> someday I'll have you in jail where you belong! Any time, I'll
> fly and meant with other patriots guarding our borders against
> vermin like you.
> I don't have to use a new fake name every time I write, to
> get people to
> read my posts.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
> "Pink Freud" <psychokiller@terminal-analysis.org> wrote in
> message news:bO5ui.41583$rX4.33176@pd7urf2no...
>>
>>
>>
>> Get a new schtick.
>>
>>
>> You're boring as hell.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
--
HP, aka Jerry
"Never complain, never explain" - Henry Ford II
discussion du jour ...
> This from the biggest loser of them all! The jealous,
> really jealous, I
> can't believe how jealous this little draft dodging coward
> schizophrenic psychopath liar hiding in Vancouver via
> S0106000ea6ba70e7.vn.shawcable.net 24.86.24.251
> intrepidator@shaw.ca who's only way to get attention is to
> make a fool of its self. With an obsession with perverts and
> goats, where it writes via remailers, @news.alt.net, and cross
> posts to other perverts to no one's surprise. With extreme
> jealous ranting over my documents, possessions, successes,
> manliness and fine, Southern California surfing body, beard,
> and loving Christian family. Committing forgery over many of
> my posts, proving I'm a responsible American man. You remind
> me of a little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its
> senseless barking, me too, me too. You're even more senile
> than I first thought. And the poor thing, you're too girlie to
> take responsibility for yourself again, by signing your
> statement like a man.
> That really thinks the group's members are so stupid not
> to know it's
> the same coward, posting over and over again using a
> schizophrenic psychopath forged up names?
> You're not worth any more time when a cut and paste this
> same
> paragraphs it fits so well!
> But, now worth a forwarding to: internet.help@shaw.ca,
> security@shaw.ca, abuse@shaw.ca, internet.abuse@sjrb.ca,
> abuse@aioe.org, admin@***.net for forgery.
> Who said it also likes baby monkeys sucking their -----,
> like his buddy
> posted on an auto picture group at:
> news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com
> I thought this traitor's attacks were just over personal
> disagreements,
> but in reality these attacks stemming from my love of God and
> America on Independents Week, I realized you are actually
> attacking my country, and that's what you've been doing all
> along is declaring your hatred for the United States of
> America, with each declaration of my signature, but just too
> cowardly and stupid to be a ---------. It's America, love it,
> or leave it, so keep the f*ck out!
> Or let me know when you cross my American border, so I
> may arrest you! YOU ARE A TRAITOR and lost all rights to
> my American border, and
so, now you've switched to calling people a traitor? funny coming
from a COWARD who was summarily dismissed from the U.S. military
and doctored up somebody else's DD-214. this COWARD's way out is
indictative of your long-standing infantile and ficticious life
you've created for yourself as you cannot stand the sad, mundane
life of a miscreant who has owned nothing, accomplished nothing,
and been awarded nothing - i.e., except a criminal record and a
medical mentally ill record. rant on, moron!
> someday I'll have you in jail where you belong! Any time, I'll
> fly and meant with other patriots guarding our borders against
> vermin like you.
> I don't have to use a new fake name every time I write, to
> get people to
> read my posts.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
> "Pink Freud" <psychokiller@terminal-analysis.org> wrote in
> message news:bO5ui.41583$rX4.33176@pd7urf2no...
>>
>>
>>
>> Get a new schtick.
>>
>>
>> You're boring as hell.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
--
HP, aka Jerry
"Never complain, never explain" - Henry Ford II
