{{ OT }} Computerj (PC) Troubles with PCI Buss
#111
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Re: {{ OT }} Computerj (PC) Troubles with PCI Buss
"Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote in message
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> Jeff, power supplies are real cheap, I think you said that too. I have
> two
> or three lying around as spares, just in case. I don't think it will fix
> it, but you never know until you swap it out.
>
> I like a recent Windows upgrade as another possible culprit, or the
> software
> that comes with the wireless card.
>
No Windows upgrade. I did a reinstall, but that was a response to the
problem, and the problem persists ONLY when the hardware is installed.
> Are the CPU fan and the one in the power supply turning? I had one just
> stop once. I spotted it before anything else failed.
Yeah, the fans are running.
#112
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Re: {{ OT }} Computerj (PC) Troubles with PCI Buss
"Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote in message
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> Jeff, power supplies are real cheap, I think you said that too. I have
> two
> or three lying around as spares, just in case. I don't think it will fix
> it, but you never know until you swap it out.
>
> I like a recent Windows upgrade as another possible culprit, or the
> software
> that comes with the wireless card.
>
No Windows upgrade. I did a reinstall, but that was a response to the
problem, and the problem persists ONLY when the hardware is installed.
> Are the CPU fan and the one in the power supply turning? I had one just
> stop once. I spotted it before anything else failed.
Yeah, the fans are running.
#113
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Re: {{ OT }} Computerj (PC) Troubles with PCI Buss
"Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote in message
news:f9atsc$so1$1@registered.motzarella.org...
> Jeff, power supplies are real cheap, I think you said that too. I have
> two
> or three lying around as spares, just in case. I don't think it will fix
> it, but you never know until you swap it out.
>
> I like a recent Windows upgrade as another possible culprit, or the
> software
> that comes with the wireless card.
>
No Windows upgrade. I did a reinstall, but that was a response to the
problem, and the problem persists ONLY when the hardware is installed.
> Are the CPU fan and the one in the power supply turning? I had one just
> stop once. I spotted it before anything else failed.
Yeah, the fans are running.
#114
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Re: {{ OT }} Computerj (PC) Troubles with PCI Buss
Hachiroku ハチ-ク wrote:
> On Tue, 07 Aug 2007 17:52:41 -0500, Moe wrote:
>
>> Jeff Strickland wrote:
>>> " dbu.," <nps@alllegal.com> wrote in message
>>> news:nps-DED5B9.16594007082007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
>>>> In article <eD5ui.7625$dD3.2352@trnddc07>, "Jeff Strickland"
>>>> <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> " dbu.," <nps@alllegal.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:nps-5E9355.16062407082007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
>>>>>>> Yes. I have the drivers for all of the added stuff, and it was
>>>>> working
>>>>>>> okay
>>>>>>> for a very long time.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I realize that my problem is sorta like, I pushed the car out of
>>>>>>> the garage
>>>>>>> and now it won't start, where pushing it and starting it are
>>>>>>> normally unrelated activities, but this computer worked okay until
>>>>>>> I turned
>>>>> it >> off
>>>>>>> one day and moved it to another table and started it up again, and
>>>>> now >> it
>>>>>>> doesn't run.
>>>>>> You mean the wireless doesn't run, the computer otherwise works
>>>>>> fine?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>> Well, yeah. When the old heap is up on blocks, it runs fine. But when
>>>>> I put
>>>>> the tires on and take the jack stands out, it stalls again (to keep my
>>>>> bad
>>>>> analogy alive) ...
>>>> I wonder if the old drivers are still in the computer or do the new
>>>> ones overwrite the old?
>>>>
>>>> I'm not so sure it's hardware. If it were me I'd be looking at
>>>> SW/driver before replacing an otherwise good running machine.
>>>>
>>>> Aren't computers fun...GL
>>>>
>>>>
>>> It behaved the same way with two different wireless adaptors and two
>>> different installs of WinXP Pro, and the latest install of XP did a
>>> forced reformat of the hard drive. I'm confident the only wireless
>>> drivers I am dealing with now are for the D-Link adaptor. As an aside,
>>> the machine seems to not care about the USB 2.0 adaptor that also uses
>>> the PCI bus. Maybe my hints at a bad power supply are not accurate ...
>>>
>>> Somebody suggested a interupt conflict, but there was no change in the
>>> interupts between the time the machine worked okay and when it began
>>> working poorly. No software or hardware had been installed or modified,
>>> all we did was unplug the machine and set it up on another table to pull
>>> our private files -- pictures, Word Documents, that sort of stuff -- off
>>> of it.
>>>
>>> We've already replaced the machine, but I can find a new home for it if
>>> I can make it run. It works fine in a stand alone environment, but I
>>> really need it to be connected to the wireless network. I suppose I
>>> could drag it close to the router and plug in a CAT 5 cable, but that
>>> does not give me what I'm really looking for. And, that requires a NIC
>>> card and a CAT 5 cable.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Hillew, my name is Sam,
>> I am sorri you sim to bi having problims,
>> Plise go to sistims divice and till mi if you have an conflics,
>
>
> Whatr u tring 2 sa, Mo?
>
>
Et appirs thee rich americen can not propirlee fex he's cmputour. I
weel be right back, I hav too goo feeeed eliphent.
> On Tue, 07 Aug 2007 17:52:41 -0500, Moe wrote:
>
>> Jeff Strickland wrote:
>>> " dbu.," <nps@alllegal.com> wrote in message
>>> news:nps-DED5B9.16594007082007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
>>>> In article <eD5ui.7625$dD3.2352@trnddc07>, "Jeff Strickland"
>>>> <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> " dbu.," <nps@alllegal.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:nps-5E9355.16062407082007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
>>>>>>> Yes. I have the drivers for all of the added stuff, and it was
>>>>> working
>>>>>>> okay
>>>>>>> for a very long time.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I realize that my problem is sorta like, I pushed the car out of
>>>>>>> the garage
>>>>>>> and now it won't start, where pushing it and starting it are
>>>>>>> normally unrelated activities, but this computer worked okay until
>>>>>>> I turned
>>>>> it >> off
>>>>>>> one day and moved it to another table and started it up again, and
>>>>> now >> it
>>>>>>> doesn't run.
>>>>>> You mean the wireless doesn't run, the computer otherwise works
>>>>>> fine?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>> Well, yeah. When the old heap is up on blocks, it runs fine. But when
>>>>> I put
>>>>> the tires on and take the jack stands out, it stalls again (to keep my
>>>>> bad
>>>>> analogy alive) ...
>>>> I wonder if the old drivers are still in the computer or do the new
>>>> ones overwrite the old?
>>>>
>>>> I'm not so sure it's hardware. If it were me I'd be looking at
>>>> SW/driver before replacing an otherwise good running machine.
>>>>
>>>> Aren't computers fun...GL
>>>>
>>>>
>>> It behaved the same way with two different wireless adaptors and two
>>> different installs of WinXP Pro, and the latest install of XP did a
>>> forced reformat of the hard drive. I'm confident the only wireless
>>> drivers I am dealing with now are for the D-Link adaptor. As an aside,
>>> the machine seems to not care about the USB 2.0 adaptor that also uses
>>> the PCI bus. Maybe my hints at a bad power supply are not accurate ...
>>>
>>> Somebody suggested a interupt conflict, but there was no change in the
>>> interupts between the time the machine worked okay and when it began
>>> working poorly. No software or hardware had been installed or modified,
>>> all we did was unplug the machine and set it up on another table to pull
>>> our private files -- pictures, Word Documents, that sort of stuff -- off
>>> of it.
>>>
>>> We've already replaced the machine, but I can find a new home for it if
>>> I can make it run. It works fine in a stand alone environment, but I
>>> really need it to be connected to the wireless network. I suppose I
>>> could drag it close to the router and plug in a CAT 5 cable, but that
>>> does not give me what I'm really looking for. And, that requires a NIC
>>> card and a CAT 5 cable.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Hillew, my name is Sam,
>> I am sorri you sim to bi having problims,
>> Plise go to sistims divice and till mi if you have an conflics,
>
>
> Whatr u tring 2 sa, Mo?
>
>
Et appirs thee rich americen can not propirlee fex he's cmputour. I
weel be right back, I hav too goo feeeed eliphent.
#115
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Re: {{ OT }} Computerj (PC) Troubles with PCI Buss
Hachiroku ハチ-ク wrote:
> On Tue, 07 Aug 2007 17:52:41 -0500, Moe wrote:
>
>> Jeff Strickland wrote:
>>> " dbu.," <nps@alllegal.com> wrote in message
>>> news:nps-DED5B9.16594007082007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
>>>> In article <eD5ui.7625$dD3.2352@trnddc07>, "Jeff Strickland"
>>>> <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> " dbu.," <nps@alllegal.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:nps-5E9355.16062407082007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
>>>>>>> Yes. I have the drivers for all of the added stuff, and it was
>>>>> working
>>>>>>> okay
>>>>>>> for a very long time.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I realize that my problem is sorta like, I pushed the car out of
>>>>>>> the garage
>>>>>>> and now it won't start, where pushing it and starting it are
>>>>>>> normally unrelated activities, but this computer worked okay until
>>>>>>> I turned
>>>>> it >> off
>>>>>>> one day and moved it to another table and started it up again, and
>>>>> now >> it
>>>>>>> doesn't run.
>>>>>> You mean the wireless doesn't run, the computer otherwise works
>>>>>> fine?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>> Well, yeah. When the old heap is up on blocks, it runs fine. But when
>>>>> I put
>>>>> the tires on and take the jack stands out, it stalls again (to keep my
>>>>> bad
>>>>> analogy alive) ...
>>>> I wonder if the old drivers are still in the computer or do the new
>>>> ones overwrite the old?
>>>>
>>>> I'm not so sure it's hardware. If it were me I'd be looking at
>>>> SW/driver before replacing an otherwise good running machine.
>>>>
>>>> Aren't computers fun...GL
>>>>
>>>>
>>> It behaved the same way with two different wireless adaptors and two
>>> different installs of WinXP Pro, and the latest install of XP did a
>>> forced reformat of the hard drive. I'm confident the only wireless
>>> drivers I am dealing with now are for the D-Link adaptor. As an aside,
>>> the machine seems to not care about the USB 2.0 adaptor that also uses
>>> the PCI bus. Maybe my hints at a bad power supply are not accurate ...
>>>
>>> Somebody suggested a interupt conflict, but there was no change in the
>>> interupts between the time the machine worked okay and when it began
>>> working poorly. No software or hardware had been installed or modified,
>>> all we did was unplug the machine and set it up on another table to pull
>>> our private files -- pictures, Word Documents, that sort of stuff -- off
>>> of it.
>>>
>>> We've already replaced the machine, but I can find a new home for it if
>>> I can make it run. It works fine in a stand alone environment, but I
>>> really need it to be connected to the wireless network. I suppose I
>>> could drag it close to the router and plug in a CAT 5 cable, but that
>>> does not give me what I'm really looking for. And, that requires a NIC
>>> card and a CAT 5 cable.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Hillew, my name is Sam,
>> I am sorri you sim to bi having problims,
>> Plise go to sistims divice and till mi if you have an conflics,
>
>
> Whatr u tring 2 sa, Mo?
>
>
Et appirs thee rich americen can not propirlee fex he's cmputour. I
weel be right back, I hav too goo feeeed eliphent.
> On Tue, 07 Aug 2007 17:52:41 -0500, Moe wrote:
>
>> Jeff Strickland wrote:
>>> " dbu.," <nps@alllegal.com> wrote in message
>>> news:nps-DED5B9.16594007082007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
>>>> In article <eD5ui.7625$dD3.2352@trnddc07>, "Jeff Strickland"
>>>> <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> " dbu.," <nps@alllegal.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:nps-5E9355.16062407082007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
>>>>>>> Yes. I have the drivers for all of the added stuff, and it was
>>>>> working
>>>>>>> okay
>>>>>>> for a very long time.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I realize that my problem is sorta like, I pushed the car out of
>>>>>>> the garage
>>>>>>> and now it won't start, where pushing it and starting it are
>>>>>>> normally unrelated activities, but this computer worked okay until
>>>>>>> I turned
>>>>> it >> off
>>>>>>> one day and moved it to another table and started it up again, and
>>>>> now >> it
>>>>>>> doesn't run.
>>>>>> You mean the wireless doesn't run, the computer otherwise works
>>>>>> fine?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>> Well, yeah. When the old heap is up on blocks, it runs fine. But when
>>>>> I put
>>>>> the tires on and take the jack stands out, it stalls again (to keep my
>>>>> bad
>>>>> analogy alive) ...
>>>> I wonder if the old drivers are still in the computer or do the new
>>>> ones overwrite the old?
>>>>
>>>> I'm not so sure it's hardware. If it were me I'd be looking at
>>>> SW/driver before replacing an otherwise good running machine.
>>>>
>>>> Aren't computers fun...GL
>>>>
>>>>
>>> It behaved the same way with two different wireless adaptors and two
>>> different installs of WinXP Pro, and the latest install of XP did a
>>> forced reformat of the hard drive. I'm confident the only wireless
>>> drivers I am dealing with now are for the D-Link adaptor. As an aside,
>>> the machine seems to not care about the USB 2.0 adaptor that also uses
>>> the PCI bus. Maybe my hints at a bad power supply are not accurate ...
>>>
>>> Somebody suggested a interupt conflict, but there was no change in the
>>> interupts between the time the machine worked okay and when it began
>>> working poorly. No software or hardware had been installed or modified,
>>> all we did was unplug the machine and set it up on another table to pull
>>> our private files -- pictures, Word Documents, that sort of stuff -- off
>>> of it.
>>>
>>> We've already replaced the machine, but I can find a new home for it if
>>> I can make it run. It works fine in a stand alone environment, but I
>>> really need it to be connected to the wireless network. I suppose I
>>> could drag it close to the router and plug in a CAT 5 cable, but that
>>> does not give me what I'm really looking for. And, that requires a NIC
>>> card and a CAT 5 cable.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Hillew, my name is Sam,
>> I am sorri you sim to bi having problims,
>> Plise go to sistims divice and till mi if you have an conflics,
>
>
> Whatr u tring 2 sa, Mo?
>
>
Et appirs thee rich americen can not propirlee fex he's cmputour. I
weel be right back, I hav too goo feeeed eliphent.
#116
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Re: {{ OT }} Computerj (PC) Troubles with PCI Buss
Hachiroku ハチ-ク wrote:
> On Tue, 07 Aug 2007 17:52:41 -0500, Moe wrote:
>
>> Jeff Strickland wrote:
>>> " dbu.," <nps@alllegal.com> wrote in message
>>> news:nps-DED5B9.16594007082007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
>>>> In article <eD5ui.7625$dD3.2352@trnddc07>, "Jeff Strickland"
>>>> <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> " dbu.," <nps@alllegal.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:nps-5E9355.16062407082007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
>>>>>>> Yes. I have the drivers for all of the added stuff, and it was
>>>>> working
>>>>>>> okay
>>>>>>> for a very long time.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I realize that my problem is sorta like, I pushed the car out of
>>>>>>> the garage
>>>>>>> and now it won't start, where pushing it and starting it are
>>>>>>> normally unrelated activities, but this computer worked okay until
>>>>>>> I turned
>>>>> it >> off
>>>>>>> one day and moved it to another table and started it up again, and
>>>>> now >> it
>>>>>>> doesn't run.
>>>>>> You mean the wireless doesn't run, the computer otherwise works
>>>>>> fine?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>> Well, yeah. When the old heap is up on blocks, it runs fine. But when
>>>>> I put
>>>>> the tires on and take the jack stands out, it stalls again (to keep my
>>>>> bad
>>>>> analogy alive) ...
>>>> I wonder if the old drivers are still in the computer or do the new
>>>> ones overwrite the old?
>>>>
>>>> I'm not so sure it's hardware. If it were me I'd be looking at
>>>> SW/driver before replacing an otherwise good running machine.
>>>>
>>>> Aren't computers fun...GL
>>>>
>>>>
>>> It behaved the same way with two different wireless adaptors and two
>>> different installs of WinXP Pro, and the latest install of XP did a
>>> forced reformat of the hard drive. I'm confident the only wireless
>>> drivers I am dealing with now are for the D-Link adaptor. As an aside,
>>> the machine seems to not care about the USB 2.0 adaptor that also uses
>>> the PCI bus. Maybe my hints at a bad power supply are not accurate ...
>>>
>>> Somebody suggested a interupt conflict, but there was no change in the
>>> interupts between the time the machine worked okay and when it began
>>> working poorly. No software or hardware had been installed or modified,
>>> all we did was unplug the machine and set it up on another table to pull
>>> our private files -- pictures, Word Documents, that sort of stuff -- off
>>> of it.
>>>
>>> We've already replaced the machine, but I can find a new home for it if
>>> I can make it run. It works fine in a stand alone environment, but I
>>> really need it to be connected to the wireless network. I suppose I
>>> could drag it close to the router and plug in a CAT 5 cable, but that
>>> does not give me what I'm really looking for. And, that requires a NIC
>>> card and a CAT 5 cable.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Hillew, my name is Sam,
>> I am sorri you sim to bi having problims,
>> Plise go to sistims divice and till mi if you have an conflics,
>
>
> Whatr u tring 2 sa, Mo?
>
>
Et appirs thee rich americen can not propirlee fex he's cmputour. I
weel be right back, I hav too goo feeeed eliphent.
> On Tue, 07 Aug 2007 17:52:41 -0500, Moe wrote:
>
>> Jeff Strickland wrote:
>>> " dbu.," <nps@alllegal.com> wrote in message
>>> news:nps-DED5B9.16594007082007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
>>>> In article <eD5ui.7625$dD3.2352@trnddc07>, "Jeff Strickland"
>>>> <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> " dbu.," <nps@alllegal.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:nps-5E9355.16062407082007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
>>>>>>> Yes. I have the drivers for all of the added stuff, and it was
>>>>> working
>>>>>>> okay
>>>>>>> for a very long time.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I realize that my problem is sorta like, I pushed the car out of
>>>>>>> the garage
>>>>>>> and now it won't start, where pushing it and starting it are
>>>>>>> normally unrelated activities, but this computer worked okay until
>>>>>>> I turned
>>>>> it >> off
>>>>>>> one day and moved it to another table and started it up again, and
>>>>> now >> it
>>>>>>> doesn't run.
>>>>>> You mean the wireless doesn't run, the computer otherwise works
>>>>>> fine?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>> Well, yeah. When the old heap is up on blocks, it runs fine. But when
>>>>> I put
>>>>> the tires on and take the jack stands out, it stalls again (to keep my
>>>>> bad
>>>>> analogy alive) ...
>>>> I wonder if the old drivers are still in the computer or do the new
>>>> ones overwrite the old?
>>>>
>>>> I'm not so sure it's hardware. If it were me I'd be looking at
>>>> SW/driver before replacing an otherwise good running machine.
>>>>
>>>> Aren't computers fun...GL
>>>>
>>>>
>>> It behaved the same way with two different wireless adaptors and two
>>> different installs of WinXP Pro, and the latest install of XP did a
>>> forced reformat of the hard drive. I'm confident the only wireless
>>> drivers I am dealing with now are for the D-Link adaptor. As an aside,
>>> the machine seems to not care about the USB 2.0 adaptor that also uses
>>> the PCI bus. Maybe my hints at a bad power supply are not accurate ...
>>>
>>> Somebody suggested a interupt conflict, but there was no change in the
>>> interupts between the time the machine worked okay and when it began
>>> working poorly. No software or hardware had been installed or modified,
>>> all we did was unplug the machine and set it up on another table to pull
>>> our private files -- pictures, Word Documents, that sort of stuff -- off
>>> of it.
>>>
>>> We've already replaced the machine, but I can find a new home for it if
>>> I can make it run. It works fine in a stand alone environment, but I
>>> really need it to be connected to the wireless network. I suppose I
>>> could drag it close to the router and plug in a CAT 5 cable, but that
>>> does not give me what I'm really looking for. And, that requires a NIC
>>> card and a CAT 5 cable.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Hillew, my name is Sam,
>> I am sorri you sim to bi having problims,
>> Plise go to sistims divice and till mi if you have an conflics,
>
>
> Whatr u tring 2 sa, Mo?
>
>
Et appirs thee rich americen can not propirlee fex he's cmputour. I
weel be right back, I hav too goo feeeed eliphent.
#117
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Re: {{ OT }} Computerj (PC) Troubles with PCI Buss
Hachiroku ハチ-ク wrote:
> On Tue, 07 Aug 2007 17:52:41 -0500, Moe wrote:
>
>> Jeff Strickland wrote:
>>> " dbu.," <nps@alllegal.com> wrote in message
>>> news:nps-DED5B9.16594007082007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
>>>> In article <eD5ui.7625$dD3.2352@trnddc07>, "Jeff Strickland"
>>>> <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> " dbu.," <nps@alllegal.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:nps-5E9355.16062407082007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
>>>>>>> Yes. I have the drivers for all of the added stuff, and it was
>>>>> working
>>>>>>> okay
>>>>>>> for a very long time.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I realize that my problem is sorta like, I pushed the car out of
>>>>>>> the garage
>>>>>>> and now it won't start, where pushing it and starting it are
>>>>>>> normally unrelated activities, but this computer worked okay until
>>>>>>> I turned
>>>>> it >> off
>>>>>>> one day and moved it to another table and started it up again, and
>>>>> now >> it
>>>>>>> doesn't run.
>>>>>> You mean the wireless doesn't run, the computer otherwise works
>>>>>> fine?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>> Well, yeah. When the old heap is up on blocks, it runs fine. But when
>>>>> I put
>>>>> the tires on and take the jack stands out, it stalls again (to keep my
>>>>> bad
>>>>> analogy alive) ...
>>>> I wonder if the old drivers are still in the computer or do the new
>>>> ones overwrite the old?
>>>>
>>>> I'm not so sure it's hardware. If it were me I'd be looking at
>>>> SW/driver before replacing an otherwise good running machine.
>>>>
>>>> Aren't computers fun...GL
>>>>
>>>>
>>> It behaved the same way with two different wireless adaptors and two
>>> different installs of WinXP Pro, and the latest install of XP did a
>>> forced reformat of the hard drive. I'm confident the only wireless
>>> drivers I am dealing with now are for the D-Link adaptor. As an aside,
>>> the machine seems to not care about the USB 2.0 adaptor that also uses
>>> the PCI bus. Maybe my hints at a bad power supply are not accurate ...
>>>
>>> Somebody suggested a interupt conflict, but there was no change in the
>>> interupts between the time the machine worked okay and when it began
>>> working poorly. No software or hardware had been installed or modified,
>>> all we did was unplug the machine and set it up on another table to pull
>>> our private files -- pictures, Word Documents, that sort of stuff -- off
>>> of it.
>>>
>>> We've already replaced the machine, but I can find a new home for it if
>>> I can make it run. It works fine in a stand alone environment, but I
>>> really need it to be connected to the wireless network. I suppose I
>>> could drag it close to the router and plug in a CAT 5 cable, but that
>>> does not give me what I'm really looking for. And, that requires a NIC
>>> card and a CAT 5 cable.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Hillew, my name is Sam,
>> I am sorri you sim to bi having problims,
>> Plise go to sistims divice and till mi if you have an conflics,
>
>
> Whatr u tring 2 sa, Mo?
>
>
Et appirs thee rich americen can not propirlee fex he's cmputour. I
weel be right back, I hav too goo feeeed eliphent.
> On Tue, 07 Aug 2007 17:52:41 -0500, Moe wrote:
>
>> Jeff Strickland wrote:
>>> " dbu.," <nps@alllegal.com> wrote in message
>>> news:nps-DED5B9.16594007082007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
>>>> In article <eD5ui.7625$dD3.2352@trnddc07>, "Jeff Strickland"
>>>> <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> " dbu.," <nps@alllegal.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:nps-5E9355.16062407082007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
>>>>>>> Yes. I have the drivers for all of the added stuff, and it was
>>>>> working
>>>>>>> okay
>>>>>>> for a very long time.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I realize that my problem is sorta like, I pushed the car out of
>>>>>>> the garage
>>>>>>> and now it won't start, where pushing it and starting it are
>>>>>>> normally unrelated activities, but this computer worked okay until
>>>>>>> I turned
>>>>> it >> off
>>>>>>> one day and moved it to another table and started it up again, and
>>>>> now >> it
>>>>>>> doesn't run.
>>>>>> You mean the wireless doesn't run, the computer otherwise works
>>>>>> fine?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>> Well, yeah. When the old heap is up on blocks, it runs fine. But when
>>>>> I put
>>>>> the tires on and take the jack stands out, it stalls again (to keep my
>>>>> bad
>>>>> analogy alive) ...
>>>> I wonder if the old drivers are still in the computer or do the new
>>>> ones overwrite the old?
>>>>
>>>> I'm not so sure it's hardware. If it were me I'd be looking at
>>>> SW/driver before replacing an otherwise good running machine.
>>>>
>>>> Aren't computers fun...GL
>>>>
>>>>
>>> It behaved the same way with two different wireless adaptors and two
>>> different installs of WinXP Pro, and the latest install of XP did a
>>> forced reformat of the hard drive. I'm confident the only wireless
>>> drivers I am dealing with now are for the D-Link adaptor. As an aside,
>>> the machine seems to not care about the USB 2.0 adaptor that also uses
>>> the PCI bus. Maybe my hints at a bad power supply are not accurate ...
>>>
>>> Somebody suggested a interupt conflict, but there was no change in the
>>> interupts between the time the machine worked okay and when it began
>>> working poorly. No software or hardware had been installed or modified,
>>> all we did was unplug the machine and set it up on another table to pull
>>> our private files -- pictures, Word Documents, that sort of stuff -- off
>>> of it.
>>>
>>> We've already replaced the machine, but I can find a new home for it if
>>> I can make it run. It works fine in a stand alone environment, but I
>>> really need it to be connected to the wireless network. I suppose I
>>> could drag it close to the router and plug in a CAT 5 cable, but that
>>> does not give me what I'm really looking for. And, that requires a NIC
>>> card and a CAT 5 cable.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Hillew, my name is Sam,
>> I am sorri you sim to bi having problims,
>> Plise go to sistims divice and till mi if you have an conflics,
>
>
> Whatr u tring 2 sa, Mo?
>
>
Et appirs thee rich americen can not propirlee fex he's cmputour. I
weel be right back, I hav too goo feeeed eliphent.
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Re: {{ OT }} Computerj (PC) Troubles with PCI Buss
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:DY3ui.18645$ug3.17126@trnddc06...
>I have a PC that was running okay, but developed a problem where the mouse
>locks up -- stops moving -- and the entire rest of the computer freezes at
>the same time. In the grand scheme of chicken-and-egg, I don't know that
>the computer freezes and the mouse stops moving, or the mouse stops and the
>computer freezes. I only know that the computer has stopped because the
>mouse no longer responds.
>
> I have to physically shut the computer off by holding the power switch.
>
> After many hours of checking, I discovered that if I remove the wireless
> adaptor, the computer works properly for days on end. When I install the
> wireless adaptor, the computer will lock up within a few minutes.
>
> I'm certain that I have a hardware problem, and I think I have a power
> supply issue on my hands. The wireless adaptor is a PCI bus device, and
> I'm thinking the bus power supply is teetering on the brink of collapse,
> and the adaptor pushes it over the edge.
>
> The motherboard is based on Celeron architecture, I forget the clock speed
> but 900 MHz sticks in my head.
>
> This machine worked for years without ever giving me a problem. I
> installed the wireless adaptor about two years ago and was a broadband
> bandit for more than a year before I broke down and bought fiber optic
> service for my internet access. In the past ten days, I bought a new
> Core-2 Intel something-or-other, and was going to sell the Celeron to my
> brother in law. While removing my files, the mouse started acting up, and
> I jumped through all kinds of hoops trying to get the machine to work, I
> finally bought another Core 2 something-or-other for my BIL.
>
> I found that the Celeron machine now works flawlessly for days and days,
> but I did not realize the wireless adaptor was a key. I installed a new
> wireless adaptor -- different from the original one -- and the problems
> began again within minutes. Sometimes the machine will lock up on the
> Desktop while booting, other times it will boot okay but lock up a while
> later. In any case, it always locks up in less than about 20 minutes. The
> PC is completely stripped right now, it has a keyboard, mouse, and monitor
> only. No printer or any other peripheral, including CD drive or 3.5"
> floppy. From the view of the power supply, there is only a motherboard,
> mouse, keyboard, and monitor.
>
> When the wireless adaptor is installed into any of the 3 PCI ports, the
> computer locks up.
>
> Is this a power supply issue?
>
>
>
>
>
Jeff, is the fan on the power supply running? If the fan locks up, the power
supply will overheat causing the lock ups you describe, but there are other
things as well. I'd check the fan, easy stuff first.
Spdloader
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Re: {{ OT }} Computerj (PC) Troubles with PCI Buss
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:DY3ui.18645$ug3.17126@trnddc06...
>I have a PC that was running okay, but developed a problem where the mouse
>locks up -- stops moving -- and the entire rest of the computer freezes at
>the same time. In the grand scheme of chicken-and-egg, I don't know that
>the computer freezes and the mouse stops moving, or the mouse stops and the
>computer freezes. I only know that the computer has stopped because the
>mouse no longer responds.
>
> I have to physically shut the computer off by holding the power switch.
>
> After many hours of checking, I discovered that if I remove the wireless
> adaptor, the computer works properly for days on end. When I install the
> wireless adaptor, the computer will lock up within a few minutes.
>
> I'm certain that I have a hardware problem, and I think I have a power
> supply issue on my hands. The wireless adaptor is a PCI bus device, and
> I'm thinking the bus power supply is teetering on the brink of collapse,
> and the adaptor pushes it over the edge.
>
> The motherboard is based on Celeron architecture, I forget the clock speed
> but 900 MHz sticks in my head.
>
> This machine worked for years without ever giving me a problem. I
> installed the wireless adaptor about two years ago and was a broadband
> bandit for more than a year before I broke down and bought fiber optic
> service for my internet access. In the past ten days, I bought a new
> Core-2 Intel something-or-other, and was going to sell the Celeron to my
> brother in law. While removing my files, the mouse started acting up, and
> I jumped through all kinds of hoops trying to get the machine to work, I
> finally bought another Core 2 something-or-other for my BIL.
>
> I found that the Celeron machine now works flawlessly for days and days,
> but I did not realize the wireless adaptor was a key. I installed a new
> wireless adaptor -- different from the original one -- and the problems
> began again within minutes. Sometimes the machine will lock up on the
> Desktop while booting, other times it will boot okay but lock up a while
> later. In any case, it always locks up in less than about 20 minutes. The
> PC is completely stripped right now, it has a keyboard, mouse, and monitor
> only. No printer or any other peripheral, including CD drive or 3.5"
> floppy. From the view of the power supply, there is only a motherboard,
> mouse, keyboard, and monitor.
>
> When the wireless adaptor is installed into any of the 3 PCI ports, the
> computer locks up.
>
> Is this a power supply issue?
>
>
>
>
>
Jeff, is the fan on the power supply running? If the fan locks up, the power
supply will overheat causing the lock ups you describe, but there are other
things as well. I'd check the fan, easy stuff first.
Spdloader
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Re: {{ OT }} Computerj (PC) Troubles with PCI Buss
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:DY3ui.18645$ug3.17126@trnddc06...
>I have a PC that was running okay, but developed a problem where the mouse
>locks up -- stops moving -- and the entire rest of the computer freezes at
>the same time. In the grand scheme of chicken-and-egg, I don't know that
>the computer freezes and the mouse stops moving, or the mouse stops and the
>computer freezes. I only know that the computer has stopped because the
>mouse no longer responds.
>
> I have to physically shut the computer off by holding the power switch.
>
> After many hours of checking, I discovered that if I remove the wireless
> adaptor, the computer works properly for days on end. When I install the
> wireless adaptor, the computer will lock up within a few minutes.
>
> I'm certain that I have a hardware problem, and I think I have a power
> supply issue on my hands. The wireless adaptor is a PCI bus device, and
> I'm thinking the bus power supply is teetering on the brink of collapse,
> and the adaptor pushes it over the edge.
>
> The motherboard is based on Celeron architecture, I forget the clock speed
> but 900 MHz sticks in my head.
>
> This machine worked for years without ever giving me a problem. I
> installed the wireless adaptor about two years ago and was a broadband
> bandit for more than a year before I broke down and bought fiber optic
> service for my internet access. In the past ten days, I bought a new
> Core-2 Intel something-or-other, and was going to sell the Celeron to my
> brother in law. While removing my files, the mouse started acting up, and
> I jumped through all kinds of hoops trying to get the machine to work, I
> finally bought another Core 2 something-or-other for my BIL.
>
> I found that the Celeron machine now works flawlessly for days and days,
> but I did not realize the wireless adaptor was a key. I installed a new
> wireless adaptor -- different from the original one -- and the problems
> began again within minutes. Sometimes the machine will lock up on the
> Desktop while booting, other times it will boot okay but lock up a while
> later. In any case, it always locks up in less than about 20 minutes. The
> PC is completely stripped right now, it has a keyboard, mouse, and monitor
> only. No printer or any other peripheral, including CD drive or 3.5"
> floppy. From the view of the power supply, there is only a motherboard,
> mouse, keyboard, and monitor.
>
> When the wireless adaptor is installed into any of the 3 PCI ports, the
> computer locks up.
>
> Is this a power supply issue?
>
>
>
>
>
Jeff, is the fan on the power supply running? If the fan locks up, the power
supply will overheat causing the lock ups you describe, but there are other
things as well. I'd check the fan, easy stuff first.
Spdloader