witfal

On 2007-08-07 15:52:41 -0700, Moe <BubbleleLand@Fat.City> said:
> Hillew, my name is Sam,
> I am sorri you sim to bi having problims,
> Plise go to sistims divice and till mi if you have an conflics,

Doggone outsourcing.

witfal

On 2007-08-07 15:52:41 -0700, Moe <BubbleleLand@Fat.City> said:
> Hillew, my name is Sam,
> I am sorri you sim to bi having problims,
> Plise go to sistims divice and till mi if you have an conflics,

Doggone outsourcing.

witfal

On 2007-08-07 15:52:41 -0700, Moe <BubbleleLand@Fat.City> said:
> Hillew, my name is Sam,
> I am sorri you sim to bi having problims,
> Plise go to sistims divice and till mi if you have an conflics,

Doggone outsourcing.

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On Tue, 07 Aug 2007 17:52:41 -0500, Moe wrote:

> Jeff Strickland wrote:
>>
>> " dbu.," <nps@alllegal.com> wrote in message
>> news:nps-DED5B9.16594007082007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
>>> In article <eD5ui.7625$dD3.2352@trnddc07>, "Jeff Strickland"
>>> <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> " dbu.," <nps@alllegal.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:nps-5E9355.16062407082007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Yes. I have the drivers for all of the added stuff, and it was
>>>> working
>>>> >> okay
>>>> >> for a very long time.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I realize that my problem is sorta like, I pushed the car out of
>>>> >> the garage
>>>> >> and now it won't start, where pushing it and starting it are
>>>> >> normally unrelated activities, but this computer worked okay until
>>>> >> I turned
>>>> it >> off
>>>> >> one day and moved it to another table and started it up again, and
>>>> now >> it
>>>> >> doesn't run.
>>>> >
>>>> > You mean the wireless doesn't run, the computer otherwise works
>>>> > fine?
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>>
>>>> Well, yeah. When the old heap is up on blocks, it runs fine. But when
>>>> I put
>>>> the tires on and take the jack stands out, it stalls again (to keep my
>>>> bad
>>>> analogy alive) ...
>>>
>>> I wonder if the old drivers are still in the computer or do the new
>>> ones overwrite the old?
>>>
>>> I'm not so sure it's hardware. If it were me I'd be looking at
>>> SW/driver before replacing an otherwise good running machine.
>>>
>>> Aren't computers fun...GL
>>>
>>>
>> It behaved the same way with two different wireless adaptors and two
>> different installs of WinXP Pro, and the latest install of XP did a
>> forced reformat of the hard drive. I'm confident the only wireless
>> drivers I am dealing with now are for the D-Link adaptor. As an aside,
>> the machine seems to not care about the USB 2.0 adaptor that also uses
>> the PCI bus. Maybe my hints at a bad power supply are not accurate ...
>>
>> Somebody suggested a interupt conflict, but there was no change in the
>> interupts between the time the machine worked okay and when it began
>> working poorly. No software or hardware had been installed or modified,
>> all we did was unplug the machine and set it up on another table to pull
>> our private files -- pictures, Word Documents, that sort of stuff -- off
>> of it.
>>
>> We've already replaced the machine, but I can find a new home for it if
>> I can make it run. It works fine in a stand alone environment, but I
>> really need it to be connected to the wireless network. I suppose I
>> could drag it close to the router and plug in a CAT 5 cable, but that
>> does not give me what I'm really looking for. And, that requires a NIC
>> card and a CAT 5 cable.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
> Hillew, my name is Sam,
> I am sorri you sim to bi having problims,
> Plise go to sistims divice and till mi if you have an conflics,


Whatr u tring 2 sa, Mo?

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On Tue, 07 Aug 2007 17:52:41 -0500, Moe wrote:

> Jeff Strickland wrote:
>>
>> " dbu.," <nps@alllegal.com> wrote in message
>> news:nps-DED5B9.16594007082007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
>>> In article <eD5ui.7625$dD3.2352@trnddc07>, "Jeff Strickland"
>>> <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> " dbu.," <nps@alllegal.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:nps-5E9355.16062407082007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Yes. I have the drivers for all of the added stuff, and it was
>>>> working
>>>> >> okay
>>>> >> for a very long time.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I realize that my problem is sorta like, I pushed the car out of
>>>> >> the garage
>>>> >> and now it won't start, where pushing it and starting it are
>>>> >> normally unrelated activities, but this computer worked okay until
>>>> >> I turned
>>>> it >> off
>>>> >> one day and moved it to another table and started it up again, and
>>>> now >> it
>>>> >> doesn't run.
>>>> >
>>>> > You mean the wireless doesn't run, the computer otherwise works
>>>> > fine?
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>>
>>>> Well, yeah. When the old heap is up on blocks, it runs fine. But when
>>>> I put
>>>> the tires on and take the jack stands out, it stalls again (to keep my
>>>> bad
>>>> analogy alive) ...
>>>
>>> I wonder if the old drivers are still in the computer or do the new
>>> ones overwrite the old?
>>>
>>> I'm not so sure it's hardware. If it were me I'd be looking at
>>> SW/driver before replacing an otherwise good running machine.
>>>
>>> Aren't computers fun...GL
>>>
>>>
>> It behaved the same way with two different wireless adaptors and two
>> different installs of WinXP Pro, and the latest install of XP did a
>> forced reformat of the hard drive. I'm confident the only wireless
>> drivers I am dealing with now are for the D-Link adaptor. As an aside,
>> the machine seems to not care about the USB 2.0 adaptor that also uses
>> the PCI bus. Maybe my hints at a bad power supply are not accurate ...
>>
>> Somebody suggested a interupt conflict, but there was no change in the
>> interupts between the time the machine worked okay and when it began
>> working poorly. No software or hardware had been installed or modified,
>> all we did was unplug the machine and set it up on another table to pull
>> our private files -- pictures, Word Documents, that sort of stuff -- off
>> of it.
>>
>> We've already replaced the machine, but I can find a new home for it if
>> I can make it run. It works fine in a stand alone environment, but I
>> really need it to be connected to the wireless network. I suppose I
>> could drag it close to the router and plug in a CAT 5 cable, but that
>> does not give me what I'm really looking for. And, that requires a NIC
>> card and a CAT 5 cable.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
> Hillew, my name is Sam,
> I am sorri you sim to bi having problims,
> Plise go to sistims divice and till mi if you have an conflics,


Whatr u tring 2 sa, Mo?

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On Tue, 07 Aug 2007 17:52:41 -0500, Moe wrote:

> Jeff Strickland wrote:
>>
>> " dbu.," <nps@alllegal.com> wrote in message
>> news:nps-DED5B9.16594007082007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
>>> In article <eD5ui.7625$dD3.2352@trnddc07>, "Jeff Strickland"
>>> <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> " dbu.," <nps@alllegal.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:nps-5E9355.16062407082007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Yes. I have the drivers for all of the added stuff, and it was
>>>> working
>>>> >> okay
>>>> >> for a very long time.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I realize that my problem is sorta like, I pushed the car out of
>>>> >> the garage
>>>> >> and now it won't start, where pushing it and starting it are
>>>> >> normally unrelated activities, but this computer worked okay until
>>>> >> I turned
>>>> it >> off
>>>> >> one day and moved it to another table and started it up again, and
>>>> now >> it
>>>> >> doesn't run.
>>>> >
>>>> > You mean the wireless doesn't run, the computer otherwise works
>>>> > fine?
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>>
>>>> Well, yeah. When the old heap is up on blocks, it runs fine. But when
>>>> I put
>>>> the tires on and take the jack stands out, it stalls again (to keep my
>>>> bad
>>>> analogy alive) ...
>>>
>>> I wonder if the old drivers are still in the computer or do the new
>>> ones overwrite the old?
>>>
>>> I'm not so sure it's hardware. If it were me I'd be looking at
>>> SW/driver before replacing an otherwise good running machine.
>>>
>>> Aren't computers fun...GL
>>>
>>>
>> It behaved the same way with two different wireless adaptors and two
>> different installs of WinXP Pro, and the latest install of XP did a
>> forced reformat of the hard drive. I'm confident the only wireless
>> drivers I am dealing with now are for the D-Link adaptor. As an aside,
>> the machine seems to not care about the USB 2.0 adaptor that also uses
>> the PCI bus. Maybe my hints at a bad power supply are not accurate ...
>>
>> Somebody suggested a interupt conflict, but there was no change in the
>> interupts between the time the machine worked okay and when it began
>> working poorly. No software or hardware had been installed or modified,
>> all we did was unplug the machine and set it up on another table to pull
>> our private files -- pictures, Word Documents, that sort of stuff -- off
>> of it.
>>
>> We've already replaced the machine, but I can find a new home for it if
>> I can make it run. It works fine in a stand alone environment, but I
>> really need it to be connected to the wireless network. I suppose I
>> could drag it close to the router and plug in a CAT 5 cable, but that
>> does not give me what I'm really looking for. And, that requires a NIC
>> card and a CAT 5 cable.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
> Hillew, my name is Sam,
> I am sorri you sim to bi having problims,
> Plise go to sistims divice and till mi if you have an conflics,


Whatr u tring 2 sa, Mo?

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On Tue, 07 Aug 2007 17:52:41 -0500, Moe wrote:

> Jeff Strickland wrote:
>>
>> " dbu.," <nps@alllegal.com> wrote in message
>> news:nps-DED5B9.16594007082007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
>>> In article <eD5ui.7625$dD3.2352@trnddc07>, "Jeff Strickland"
>>> <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> " dbu.," <nps@alllegal.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:nps-5E9355.16062407082007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Yes. I have the drivers for all of the added stuff, and it was
>>>> working
>>>> >> okay
>>>> >> for a very long time.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I realize that my problem is sorta like, I pushed the car out of
>>>> >> the garage
>>>> >> and now it won't start, where pushing it and starting it are
>>>> >> normally unrelated activities, but this computer worked okay until
>>>> >> I turned
>>>> it >> off
>>>> >> one day and moved it to another table and started it up again, and
>>>> now >> it
>>>> >> doesn't run.
>>>> >
>>>> > You mean the wireless doesn't run, the computer otherwise works
>>>> > fine?
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>>
>>>> Well, yeah. When the old heap is up on blocks, it runs fine. But when
>>>> I put
>>>> the tires on and take the jack stands out, it stalls again (to keep my
>>>> bad
>>>> analogy alive) ...
>>>
>>> I wonder if the old drivers are still in the computer or do the new
>>> ones overwrite the old?
>>>
>>> I'm not so sure it's hardware. If it were me I'd be looking at
>>> SW/driver before replacing an otherwise good running machine.
>>>
>>> Aren't computers fun...GL
>>>
>>>
>> It behaved the same way with two different wireless adaptors and two
>> different installs of WinXP Pro, and the latest install of XP did a
>> forced reformat of the hard drive. I'm confident the only wireless
>> drivers I am dealing with now are for the D-Link adaptor. As an aside,
>> the machine seems to not care about the USB 2.0 adaptor that also uses
>> the PCI bus. Maybe my hints at a bad power supply are not accurate ...
>>
>> Somebody suggested a interupt conflict, but there was no change in the
>> interupts between the time the machine worked okay and when it began
>> working poorly. No software or hardware had been installed or modified,
>> all we did was unplug the machine and set it up on another table to pull
>> our private files -- pictures, Word Documents, that sort of stuff -- off
>> of it.
>>
>> We've already replaced the machine, but I can find a new home for it if
>> I can make it run. It works fine in a stand alone environment, but I
>> really need it to be connected to the wireless network. I suppose I
>> could drag it close to the router and plug in a CAT 5 cable, but that
>> does not give me what I'm really looking for. And, that requires a NIC
>> card and a CAT 5 cable.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
> Hillew, my name is Sam,
> I am sorri you sim to bi having problims,
> Plise go to sistims divice and till mi if you have an conflics,


Whatr u tring 2 sa, Mo?

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On Tue, 07 Aug 2007 22:32:52 +0000, Jeff Strickland wrote:

>
> " dbu.," <nps@alllegal.com> wrote in message
> news:nps-DED5B9.16594007082007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
>> In article <eD5ui.7625$dD3.2352@trnddc07>, "Jeff Strickland"
>> <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>> " dbu.," <nps@alllegal.com> wrote in message
>>> news:nps-5E9355.16062407082007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
>>> >>
>>> >> Yes. I have the drivers for all of the added stuff, and it was
>>> >> working okay
>>> >> for a very long time.
>>> >>
>>> >> I realize that my problem is sorta like, I pushed the car out of the
>>> >> garage
>>> >> and now it won't start, where pushing it and starting it are
>>> >> normally unrelated activities, but this computer worked okay until I
>>> >> turned it off
>>> >> one day and moved it to another table and started it up again, and
>>> >> now it
>>> >> doesn't run.
>>> >
>>> > You mean the wireless doesn't run, the computer otherwise works fine?
>>> >
>>> > --
>>>
>>>
>>> Well, yeah. When the old heap is up on blocks, it runs fine. But when I
>>> put
>>> the tires on and take the jack stands out, it stalls again (to keep my
>>> bad
>>> analogy alive) ...
>>
>> I wonder if the old drivers are still in the computer or do the new ones
>> overwrite the old?
>>
>> I'm not so sure it's hardware. If it were me I'd be looking at
>> SW/driver before replacing an otherwise good running machine.
>>
>> Aren't computers fun...GL
>>
>>
> It behaved the same way with two different wireless adaptors and two
> different installs of WinXP Pro, and the latest install of XP did a forced
> reformat of the hard drive. I'm confident the only wireless drivers I am
> dealing with now are for the D-Link adaptor. As an aside, the machine
> seems to not care about the USB 2.0 adaptor that also uses the PCI bus.
> Maybe my hints at a bad power supply are not accurate ...
>
> Somebody suggested a interupt conflict, but there was no change in the
> interupts between the time the machine worked okay and when it began
> working poorly. No software or hardware had been installed or modified,
> all we did was unplug the machine and set it up on another table to pull
> our private files -- pictures, Word Documents, that sort of stuff -- off
> of it.
>
> We've already replaced the machine, but I can find a new home for it if I
> can make it run. It works fine in a stand alone environment, but I really
> need it to be connected to the wireless network. I suppose I could drag it
> close to the router and plug in a CAT 5 cable, but that does not give me
> what I'm really looking for. And, that requires a NIC card and a CAT 5
> cable.


Have you gone into the BIOS and disabled the on-board NIC?
My machine here locks when I install an Attache 'thumb drive', unless I
remove my Trackball and use an optical mouse.

My previous machine would lock up when the On-Board NIC was enabled. Damn
thing never worked, so when I installed a 3Com card NIC it would freeze up
unless the On-Board was disabled.

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On Tue, 07 Aug 2007 22:32:52 +0000, Jeff Strickland wrote:

>
> " dbu.," <nps@alllegal.com> wrote in message
> news:nps-DED5B9.16594007082007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
>> In article <eD5ui.7625$dD3.2352@trnddc07>, "Jeff Strickland"
>> <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>> " dbu.," <nps@alllegal.com> wrote in message
>>> news:nps-5E9355.16062407082007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
>>> >>
>>> >> Yes. I have the drivers for all of the added stuff, and it was
>>> >> working okay
>>> >> for a very long time.
>>> >>
>>> >> I realize that my problem is sorta like, I pushed the car out of the
>>> >> garage
>>> >> and now it won't start, where pushing it and starting it are
>>> >> normally unrelated activities, but this computer worked okay until I
>>> >> turned it off
>>> >> one day and moved it to another table and started it up again, and
>>> >> now it
>>> >> doesn't run.
>>> >
>>> > You mean the wireless doesn't run, the computer otherwise works fine?
>>> >
>>> > --
>>>
>>>
>>> Well, yeah. When the old heap is up on blocks, it runs fine. But when I
>>> put
>>> the tires on and take the jack stands out, it stalls again (to keep my
>>> bad
>>> analogy alive) ...
>>
>> I wonder if the old drivers are still in the computer or do the new ones
>> overwrite the old?
>>
>> I'm not so sure it's hardware. If it were me I'd be looking at
>> SW/driver before replacing an otherwise good running machine.
>>
>> Aren't computers fun...GL
>>
>>
> It behaved the same way with two different wireless adaptors and two
> different installs of WinXP Pro, and the latest install of XP did a forced
> reformat of the hard drive. I'm confident the only wireless drivers I am
> dealing with now are for the D-Link adaptor. As an aside, the machine
> seems to not care about the USB 2.0 adaptor that also uses the PCI bus.
> Maybe my hints at a bad power supply are not accurate ...
>
> Somebody suggested a interupt conflict, but there was no change in the
> interupts between the time the machine worked okay and when it began
> working poorly. No software or hardware had been installed or modified,
> all we did was unplug the machine and set it up on another table to pull
> our private files -- pictures, Word Documents, that sort of stuff -- off
> of it.
>
> We've already replaced the machine, but I can find a new home for it if I
> can make it run. It works fine in a stand alone environment, but I really
> need it to be connected to the wireless network. I suppose I could drag it
> close to the router and plug in a CAT 5 cable, but that does not give me
> what I'm really looking for. And, that requires a NIC card and a CAT 5
> cable.


Have you gone into the BIOS and disabled the on-board NIC?
My machine here locks when I install an Attache 'thumb drive', unless I
remove my Trackball and use an optical mouse.

My previous machine would lock up when the On-Board NIC was enabled. Damn
thing never worked, so when I installed a 3Com card NIC it would freeze up
unless the On-Board was disabled.

=?iso-2022-jp?q?Hachiroku_=1B$B%O%A%m%=2F=1B=28B?=

On Tue, 07 Aug 2007 22:32:52 +0000, Jeff Strickland wrote:

>
> " dbu.," <nps@alllegal.com> wrote in message
> news:nps-DED5B9.16594007082007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
>> In article <eD5ui.7625$dD3.2352@trnddc07>, "Jeff Strickland"
>> <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>> " dbu.," <nps@alllegal.com> wrote in message
>>> news:nps-5E9355.16062407082007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
>>> >>
>>> >> Yes. I have the drivers for all of the added stuff, and it was
>>> >> working okay
>>> >> for a very long time.
>>> >>
>>> >> I realize that my problem is sorta like, I pushed the car out of the
>>> >> garage
>>> >> and now it won't start, where pushing it and starting it are
>>> >> normally unrelated activities, but this computer worked okay until I
>>> >> turned it off
>>> >> one day and moved it to another table and started it up again, and
>>> >> now it
>>> >> doesn't run.
>>> >
>>> > You mean the wireless doesn't run, the computer otherwise works fine?
>>> >
>>> > --
>>>
>>>
>>> Well, yeah. When the old heap is up on blocks, it runs fine. But when I
>>> put
>>> the tires on and take the jack stands out, it stalls again (to keep my
>>> bad
>>> analogy alive) ...
>>
>> I wonder if the old drivers are still in the computer or do the new ones
>> overwrite the old?
>>
>> I'm not so sure it's hardware. If it were me I'd be looking at
>> SW/driver before replacing an otherwise good running machine.
>>
>> Aren't computers fun...GL
>>
>>
> It behaved the same way with two different wireless adaptors and two
> different installs of WinXP Pro, and the latest install of XP did a forced
> reformat of the hard drive. I'm confident the only wireless drivers I am
> dealing with now are for the D-Link adaptor. As an aside, the machine
> seems to not care about the USB 2.0 adaptor that also uses the PCI bus.
> Maybe my hints at a bad power supply are not accurate ...
>
> Somebody suggested a interupt conflict, but there was no change in the
> interupts between the time the machine worked okay and when it began
> working poorly. No software or hardware had been installed or modified,
> all we did was unplug the machine and set it up on another table to pull
> our private files -- pictures, Word Documents, that sort of stuff -- off
> of it.
>
> We've already replaced the machine, but I can find a new home for it if I
> can make it run. It works fine in a stand alone environment, but I really
> need it to be connected to the wireless network. I suppose I could drag it
> close to the router and plug in a CAT 5 cable, but that does not give me
> what I'm really looking for. And, that requires a NIC card and a CAT 5
> cable.


Have you gone into the BIOS and disabled the on-board NIC?
My machine here locks when I install an Attache 'thumb drive', unless I
remove my Trackball and use an optical mouse.

My previous machine would lock up when the On-Board NIC was enabled. Damn
thing never worked, so when I installed a 3Com card NIC it would freeze up
unless the On-Board was disabled.