Hid kits
09-16-2008, 04:29 PM
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Hid kits
I have a 2005 Jeep Grand Cherokee and would like to know if anyone knows of a HID Kit that works with the DRL's ?
The DRL mode is hard wired into the computer. I had a kit put in, but it wouldn't work because of the DRL mode, which cannot be shut off even by the dealers computers.
The DRL mode is hard wired into the computer. I had a kit put in, but it wouldn't work because of the DRL mode, which cannot be shut off even by the dealers computers.
09-18-2008, 02:54 AM
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Re: Hid kits
I need a copy of your wiring diagram to the kit you installed. The stock DRL is controlled by the BCM yes. But it only controls the relays to the headlights, and senses if you have monkeyed with it. It will send a code from the BCM, claiming headlight failures, and all that jazz. If you send me a copy of the HID kits schematics, I may be able to help you. I have installed these on Fords for police units, and a few other customers. To avoid the warning lights, you need to complete the circuits in those relays, or it will constantly complain about headlight issues. Sometimes, it really easy. Other times, it will make you want to pull your hair out. A lot of dealerships do not deal with these types of mods. Believe me, it can make you want to drink.
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12-24-2008, 01:12 PM
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Re: Hid kits
hi. has anyone been able to come up with a simple solution for this?
I have a 2000 gc and have not been able to use a plug and play system.
my system doesnt use relays, just the factory wire harness, to plug into a ballast/igniter and then a wire goes to the 9006 HID "bulb".
I'm at my wits end. I can get one light to work, but not both. I may just insert them into my fog lights.
I have a 2000 gc and have not been able to use a plug and play system.
my system doesnt use relays, just the factory wire harness, to plug into a ballast/igniter and then a wire goes to the 9006 HID "bulb".
I'm at my wits end. I can get one light to work, but not both. I may just insert them into my fog lights.
01-05-2009, 04:40 PM
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Re: Hid kits
I am a professional custom installer and have been for 6 years. I have installed more xenon kits than i can count. I have an 2002 overland with the kits in the head lamps and fog lamps. There are a number of issues you must address. 1 Plug and play???? they say its so easy all you have to do is plug them into your factory harness.......No. If you want your kits to last then don't do that, the factory wireing can't give enough juice to run them, thats why you've probly seen people with a burnt out aftermarket xenon kit, they did plug and play. Also a down side to plug and play is feedback. Feedback?? no not on ebay, if you do not put a diode on the power you will have a huge radio problem static and lots of it. And drls? yes you can get around them by simply finding your drl relay ( if you have one) and removeing it. The best way to install the xenon kits is by fabricating a custom harness with a relay and diode. You will have 3choices with your drl's 1 lose them 2 your xenon lighs will always be on or 3 install a switch that will cut the trigger of your factory light to the relay you install.
Hope that helped . And if your looking for xenon convertions kits I do sell them for cheap pm me for exact pricing.
Hope that helped . And if your looking for xenon convertions kits I do sell them for cheap pm me for exact pricing.
03-04-2009, 06:00 PM
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Re: Hid kits
I have tried to install HIDs on my 2000 GC. I never could get them to work. Now, I don't know what kind of experience the guy who says that he's been installing HIDs for 6yrs, but everything he's claimed would happen on the Jeep, didn't happen on mine.
On the 99 to 04 models, the DRLs on running on the low-beams. When in DRL mode, the power to the low-beams is not the same as it would be if the lights were on. Therefore, the HIDs flicker. The flickering, causes an overload and blows the fuse. Once the fuse has blown, you no longer have a light. This, to me, would be why you see some Jeeps with only one working HID, not b/c the bulb burnt or the ballast failed, but b/c the fuse blew.
If I turned on the lights, then the HIDs worked perfectly fine, no flicker, not feedback, no overload and definitely no whine or static in the stereo. Having the activate the parking brake to keep the DRLs off, start the Jeep, turn on the lights, then turn off the parking brake was a nuisance.
The DRLs and the low-beam relay are one in the same. Even if you switched it to a relay that doesn't support DRLs, it doesn't stop them from turning on. Pulling various fuses under the hood that point to the DRLs doesn't actually stop them from working either. Also, there are other parts that piggy back onto these fuses and relays, such as the instrument cluster lights and various gauges.
By now, you might be thinking, "If the DRLs go off when you have the parking brake on, why don't you just rig the parking brake so that the system thinks that the switch is activated and permanently shut off the DRLs that way?" Well, thought of that and the problem is that when you bypass the switch on the parking brake, it actually affects your ABS system and turns it off as well, thus turning on the ABS light on the dash.
The only solution I haven't tried and was suggested on another Jeep forum site, was to program the BCM to the US country code, shutting off the DRLs and changing the relay to the one supplied on the GCs in the US. I haven't tried this b/c it is against the law in Canada to turn off your DRLs and no dealership that values it's license will turn them off for you. I don't have the equipment to do it myself and at the time I didn't live close enough to the US boarder to make it worthwhile to go to a garage there. Also, the relays for these things aren't cheap. I paid $75 CAD for a signal light relay. Yeesh.
In response to installing HID kids on Ford Crown Vics. Not quite the same, since the DRLs on a Crown Vic burn off the high beams and have no relevance to installing a bi-xenon HID kit on the car. The DRLs don't affect the kit on a Crown Vic one way or the other. Ford chose to burn them off the high beams, as most manufacturers do, to prolong the life of the low-beam lights. How often do you use your high beams? Not very often.
On the 99 to 04 models, the DRLs on running on the low-beams. When in DRL mode, the power to the low-beams is not the same as it would be if the lights were on. Therefore, the HIDs flicker. The flickering, causes an overload and blows the fuse. Once the fuse has blown, you no longer have a light. This, to me, would be why you see some Jeeps with only one working HID, not b/c the bulb burnt or the ballast failed, but b/c the fuse blew.
If I turned on the lights, then the HIDs worked perfectly fine, no flicker, not feedback, no overload and definitely no whine or static in the stereo. Having the activate the parking brake to keep the DRLs off, start the Jeep, turn on the lights, then turn off the parking brake was a nuisance.
The DRLs and the low-beam relay are one in the same. Even if you switched it to a relay that doesn't support DRLs, it doesn't stop them from turning on. Pulling various fuses under the hood that point to the DRLs doesn't actually stop them from working either. Also, there are other parts that piggy back onto these fuses and relays, such as the instrument cluster lights and various gauges.
By now, you might be thinking, "If the DRLs go off when you have the parking brake on, why don't you just rig the parking brake so that the system thinks that the switch is activated and permanently shut off the DRLs that way?" Well, thought of that and the problem is that when you bypass the switch on the parking brake, it actually affects your ABS system and turns it off as well, thus turning on the ABS light on the dash.
The only solution I haven't tried and was suggested on another Jeep forum site, was to program the BCM to the US country code, shutting off the DRLs and changing the relay to the one supplied on the GCs in the US. I haven't tried this b/c it is against the law in Canada to turn off your DRLs and no dealership that values it's license will turn them off for you. I don't have the equipment to do it myself and at the time I didn't live close enough to the US boarder to make it worthwhile to go to a garage there. Also, the relays for these things aren't cheap. I paid $75 CAD for a signal light relay. Yeesh.
In response to installing HID kids on Ford Crown Vics. Not quite the same, since the DRLs on a Crown Vic burn off the high beams and have no relevance to installing a bi-xenon HID kit on the car. The DRLs don't affect the kit on a Crown Vic one way or the other. Ford chose to burn them off the high beams, as most manufacturers do, to prolong the life of the low-beam lights. How often do you use your high beams? Not very often.
03-04-2009, 06:13 PM
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Re: Hid kits
Crappy deal.
I have come to live with the fact that the best I can do in Canada, is what I have already done.
New Projector headlamps (awesome looking), new HIR Bulbs, and a high power wire harness from Kolak (in the states).
The light output is MUCH better than a factory set up, but no where near HID quality lighting, which I have on my other 2 cars. I'm happy with the results, IF i was not to compare them to a HID setup, i guess.
C'est la vie.
I have come to live with the fact that the best I can do in Canada, is what I have already done.
New Projector headlamps (awesome looking), new HIR Bulbs, and a high power wire harness from Kolak (in the states).
The light output is MUCH better than a factory set up, but no where near HID quality lighting, which I have on my other 2 cars. I'm happy with the results, IF i was not to compare them to a HID setup, i guess.
C'est la vie.