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AutoJunkieMan 06-06-2013 05:44 PM

Is Your Jeep Prepaired?
 
Recently I've been watching this great show on history channel called "Doomsday Preppers", not I'm not saying I am a prepper but I got to thinking, do other people think about there jeep as a relyable escape vehicle if anything ever happened?

So here is my question on to you; do you think your jeep is prepaired for a global wide or national wide emergency? Could you survive the carnage of collaposed buildings or shifted earth?

If not what kind of mods are you going to or would like to do to prep your jeep for the unthinkable?

Sin41 06-06-2013 06:06 PM

Re: Is Your Jeep Prepaired?
 
I was watching that show and was amazed by the stupidity of some of those people. Thay wasting all their life and time , building shelters, making daily plans, stockpiling on food etc. If sh...t really happened it have to be of epic proportions that one will need such detailed preparations, and due to size of that cataclysmic disaster no shelter or prepping would mean much to you.. One big booom and we are all history.

As per Jeep being adequate escape vehicle, No much difference that any other vehicle.


Prepping on that scale is just Paranoia on mega size proportions.American standard.

oldfart 06-06-2013 06:17 PM

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As long as you make sure you keep the tank nearly full and the four wheel drive is working you'll be in good shape. a roll of duck tape, a good rope and a roll of toilet paper would also be a good idea.

Sin41 06-06-2013 06:34 PM

Re: Is Your Jeep Prepaired?
 
The question is: Where or why would you leave your home anyway? Roads would be roadblocked by all those people leaving in panic. In state of War, the governments have right to seize your vehicle if it is suitable to be used for military purpose. so being on the road in the nice 4x4 would probably leave you walking very soon.

I agree, every home should all ways have non perishable food items, bottled water etc.few tanks of gas for bbq, some batteries and candles, bottle of rum or JD :) But stockpiling for more than week or two is waste of time.

Also in case of nuclear attack within 100 km, every vehicle and anything with electronics inside will not work anyway.

In case of Civil unrest or monetary collapse, all of the above to be stockpiled and stay inside your home. Being out in the open is not good idea.

AutoJunkieMan 06-06-2013 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by oldfart (Post 567465)
As long as you make sure you keep the tank nearly full and the four wheel drive is working you'll be in good shape. a roll of duck tape, a good rope and a roll of toilet paper would also be a good idea.

I like that idea! Duct Tape for sure, need a few of them. Good rope is always a must for sure!

AutoJunkieMan 06-06-2013 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Sin41 (Post 567467)
The question is: Where or why would you leave your home anyway? Roads would be roadblocked by all those people leaving in panic. In state of War, the governments have right to seize your vehicle if it is suitable to be used for military purpose. so being on the road in the nice 4x4 would probably leave you walking very soon.

I agree, every home should all ways have non perishable food items, bottled water etc.few tanks of gas for bbq, some batteries and candles, bottle of rum or JD :) But stockpiling for more than week or two is waste of time.

Also in case of nuclear attack within 100 km, every vehicle and anything with electronics inside will not work anyway.

In case of Civil unrest or monetary collapse, all of the above to be stockpiled and stay inside your home. Being out in the open is not good idea.

I am not talking about a war situation, I am talking about mother nature back handing us. If there was a series of high velocity tornadoes or an earth quake or flood or anything really. I feel safer knowing I got a 4x4 and I could drive further then someone in a conventional vehicle could. Believe me I would be out of toronto before the road blocks go up, if they want my vehicle they'll have to kill me.

Sin41 06-06-2013 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by AutoJunkieMan (Post 567469)
I am not talking about a war situation, I am talking about mother nature back handing us. If there was a series of high velocity tornadoes or an earth quake or flood or anything really. I feel safer knowing I got a 4x4 and I could drive further then someone in a conventional vehicle could. Believe me I would be out of toronto before the road blocks go up, if they want my vehicle they'll have to kill me.

Oh of course, I was just elaborating some instances where the stockpiling would be effective, and Yes in the mother nature scenario, our Jeeps would be more effective than other vehicles.

As per State of War declaration, Yes refusing to cooperate and handling over your vehicle would be considered hostile in nature, but most likely you wouldn't be shot. just arrested in thrown into camp.

AutoJunkieMan 06-06-2013 07:51 PM

Re: Is Your Jeep Prepaired?
 
Chances if we went to war most of us would be conscripted into joining anyways, the Canadian army isn't exactly bursting with people. So in that instance, I would probably be enlisted. Not sure about stockpiling myself.. I think that I am resourceful enough that I could get my own food and live off the land in a remote location if I had to.

salad 06-08-2013 11:38 AM

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+1 keeping your Jeep in tip-top trail shape is a good place to start. A lot of the "Advanced Trail Gear" lists pretty much cover any situations you'll attempt to tackle. Global thermonuclear warfare notwithstanding lol.

Or you could be like this guy:

Heroic Jeep That Rescued People After A Tornado Is Getting A Rebuild

(I wonder if Jalopnik has a shortage of proofreaders....)


Originally Posted by Sin41 (Post 567467)
The question is: Where or why would you leave your home anyway? Roads would be roadblocked by all those people leaving in panic.

Well it's a good thing Jeeps don't need roads, then, isn't it?

NathanM 06-11-2013 02:25 PM

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I have 2 bug out bags both with enough to survive for several days completewith first aid, water purification, ammunition, etc. There is always a rifle and a sshotgun close by ready to go. Jeep is equipped well, jugs of purified water in the garage by the door. I'm as prepared as I'm going to get for a 'get up and run like hell' situation.

AutoJunkieMan 06-12-2013 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by NathanM (Post 567515)
I have 2 bug out bags both with enough to survive for several days completewith first aid, water purification, ammunition, etc. There is always a rifle and a sshotgun close by ready to go. Jeep is equipped well, jugs of purified water in the garage by the door. I'm as prepared as I'm going to get for a 'get up and run like hell' situation.

Soooo.. your gonna be apart of my zombie defense team haha

NathanM 06-15-2013 08:42 PM

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Hahaha for sure. It's pretty funny how many of my friends bug me about my preparedness.. Then when we're stuck in the woods or camping who do they come to for food and fire! Lol

coryhnatiuk 09-11-2013 12:48 AM

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This is pretty left field. Never really factored in a post apocalyptic environment in my decision making when shopping for my Wrangler.

So for mods... I dunno... Maybe a gatling gun or something that goes boom? (does that void the warranty?) :laugh:

AutoJunkieMan 09-11-2013 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by coryhnatiuk (Post 568463)
This is pretty left field. Never really factored in a post apocalyptic environment in my decision making when shopping for my Wrangler.

So for mods... I dunno... Maybe a gatling gun or something that goes boom? (does that void the warranty?) :laugh:

Make fun if you like, but it's good to be prepared sometimes. Not saying buy a bunker just saying it's good to have a plan even if it's only little. Could be something as big as solar flare, asteroid or a nuke. Or as small as a flood or other weather phenomena, the flood Toronto had not that long ago happend. Alot of cars got stuck and hydro locked, having a snorkel would have been very usful. So that's a good basic prep to look into.

coryhnatiuk 09-11-2013 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by AutoJunkieMan (Post 568464)
Make fun if you like, but it's good to be prepared sometimes. Not saying buy a bunker just saying it's good to have a plan even if it's only little. Could be something as big as solar flare, asteroid or a nuke. Or as small as a flood or other weather phenomena, the flood Toronto had not that long ago happend. Alot of cars got stuck and hydro locked, having a snorkel would have been very usful. So that's a good basic prep to look into.

I didn't mean to poke fun and meant no offense. I just never thought of this type of scenario before. This topic has made me start researching survivalism in the Canadian wilderness. It is good to be prepared for anything.

If you ever end up being stuck somewhere out of civilization, check this list for viable food sources. http://www.pawgi.org/resources/guide...ood_Canada.pdf

AutoJunkieMan 09-11-2013 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by coryhnatiuk (Post 568465)
I didn't mean to poke fun and meant no offense. I just never thought of this type of scenario before. This topic has made me start researching survivalism in the Canadian wilderness. It is good to be prepared for anything.

If you ever end up being stuck somewhere out of civilization, check this list for viable food sources. http://www.pawgi.org/resources/guide...ood_Canada.pdf

Thats a good PDF to keep around for sure, I like to keep alternate ways of producing fire with me also. Used to have a flint stick but I found out that steel wool catches on fire when you touch it with a battery, or any electrical source. So I will be keeping a small amount of steel wool with me.

Good knife, rope and duct tape go a long way also.

trigger 09-11-2013 03:54 PM

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anyone who thinks that they shouldn't be prepping needs to shake their head. one should have at least a 3 month supply of food & water for every member of their house. meds too. if the SHTF, remember the grocery stores will be EMPTY within 72 hours. what will you do then?

AutoJunkieMan 09-11-2013 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by trigger (Post 568471)
anyone who thinks that they shouldn't be prepping needs to shake their head. one should have at least a 3 month supply of food & water for every member of their house. meds too. if the SHTF, remember the grocery stores will be EMPTY within 72 hours. what will you do then?

I'll be hitting a Canadian Tire on my way out of the city that's for sure. I don't need to stock up on food from a grocery store, tools are more important to me. Equipment i can use to get food is more valuable then food itself.

trigger 09-11-2013 06:51 PM

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i can be loaded up and out the door within 15 minutes should the need arise. my golden rule for preparedness is EVERYTHING in my bag must have at least 2 uses or it doesn't go in the bag.

within a few hours i can basically disappear and be self reliant for at least 2 months. hopefully that would be enough time for the dust to settle. the city is the last place i would want to be in an emergency situation.

AutoJunkieMan 09-11-2013 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by trigger (Post 568474)
i can be loaded up and out the door within 15 minutes should the need arise. my golden rule for preparedness is EVERYTHING in my bag must have at least 2 uses or it doesn't go in the bag.

within a few hours i can basically disappear and be self reliant for at least 2 months. hopefully that would be enough time for the dust to settle. the city is the last place i would want to be in an emergency situation.

Sounds like your very fortunate.

Unfortunately I don't have a choice, as I only work 24 hours a week and only a few bucks over minimum wage for my hourly. (not by choice) So if I had the choice I would have my own property out of the city and would have a stock pile of tools but I need a better job for that haha.

I like your idea, if you can't use it for more then one thing it's not worth bringing.

trigger 09-11-2013 07:31 PM

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thanks. i am very fortunate. also my career provides me with plenty of tools and a trailer to carry them in. i am considering an overland/expedition trailer with a roof top tent as the final piece of the puzzle. they're awful pricey though... may have to build my own.

btw- in your earlier post you mentioned hitting crappy tire on your way out of town... i would not suggest that. almost every other person in your area will be thinking the same thing. while you all are fighting over the last pack of spark plugs or tent or whatever, i'm already miles down the road. the trick is not having lots of $ at your disposal when the SHTF. a massive solar flare or EMP would knock out the grid making credit cards and cash virtually useless anyways... i would suggest scouring kijiji (like i do, lol) well ahead of time for the items you need, and prep what you can, when you can. and on that note, hit your local wreckers and secure a few things for your vehicle that are sensitive to EMP's, like your on board computer and such. buy a steel garbage can and build a faraday cage to store them in. ( i have detailed instructions for this, pm me if interested.)

it doesn't have to cost a lot to be prepared.

AutoJunkieMan 09-11-2013 07:45 PM

Re: Is Your Jeep Prepaired?
 

Originally Posted by trigger (Post 568476)
thanks. i am very fortunate. also my career provides me with plenty of tools and a trailer to carry them in. i am considering an overland/expedition trailer with a roof top tent as the final piece of the puzzle. they're awful pricey though... may have to build my own.

btw- in your earlier post you mentioned hitting crappy tire on your way out of town... i would not suggest that. almost every other person in your area will be thinking the same thing. while you all are fighting over the last pack of spark plugs or tent or whatever, i'm already miles down the road. the trick is not having lots of $ at your disposal when the SHTF. a massive solar flare or EMP would knock out the grid making credit cards and cash virtually useless anyways... i would suggest scouring kijiji (like i do, lol) well ahead of time for the items you need, and prep what you can, when you can. and on that note, hit your local wreckers and secure a few things for your vehicle that are sensitive to EMP's, like your on board computer and such. buy a steel garbage can and build a faraday cage to store them in. ( i have detailed instructions for this, pm me if interested.)

it doesn't have to cost a lot to be prepared.

Not only cost it's also space, I've no where to put anything.

I never said I was going to canadian tire to pay for stuff, I have one less then 2 blocks away from me. I'm driving my jeep into the garage and loading up on supplies and running. I literally have nowhere to put anything, I have enough "stuff" in my tiny 1 bedroom apartment as it is. Right now my best prep is my brain, I have a few tools i keep in my truck so worst comes to worst I'm just heading for the hills as is.

One thing i really wanted to get was some way for my jeep to hold extra water and fuel with some rudimentary filtration system to restock at open sources. Also want to lift and all that to make it more capable when i do find a spot out in the middle of nowhere to go.

trigger 09-11-2013 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by AutoJunkieMan (Post 568477)
Not only cost it's also space, I've no where to put anything.

I never said I was going to canadian tire to pay for stuff, I have one less then 2 blocks away from me. I'm driving my jeep into the garage and loading up on supplies and running. I literally have nowhere to put anything, I have enough "stuff" in my tiny 1 bedroom apartment as it is. Right now my best prep is my brain, I have a few tools i keep in my truck so worst comes to worst I'm just heading for the hills as is.

One thing i really wanted to get was some way for my jeep to hold extra water and fuel with some rudimentary filtration system to restock at open sources. Also want to lift and all that to make it more capable when i do find a spot out in the middle of nowhere to go.

there's always options. a family member may allow you to store some things in the garage, or a friend's place, etc. and there's always the art of geocaching...

your right though, your best prep is your brain.

my solution for water filtration was to buy a platypus gravity fed water filter. i can filter 4 liters in under 2 minutes. with the dromedary bag and dirty bag full, i can carry 8L at a time.

the fuel issue is a little more difficult... storing fuel for any length of time is a challenge, and you wouldn't want to waste time waiting in a lineup for gas, just to have them run out. one option could be a small "tidy tank" mounted to one of those racks that fit your receiver... rig up a 12v reversible pump, (or one of those fuel pump riggins that goes in your cordless drill). there are also poly fuel tanks for
boats that store a fair amount of fuel, and are relatively easy to handle...

AutoJunkieMan 09-12-2013 05:15 PM

Re: Is Your Jeep Prepaired?
 

Originally Posted by trigger (Post 568479)
there's always options. a family member may allow you to store some things in the garage, or a friend's place, etc. and there's always the art of geocaching...

your right though, your best prep is your brain.

my solution for water filtration was to buy a platypus gravity fed water filter. i can filter 4 liters in under 2 minutes. with the dromedary bag and dirty bag full, i can carry 8L at a time.

the fuel issue is a little more difficult... storing fuel for any length of time is a challenge, and you wouldn't want to waste time waiting in a lineup for gas, just to have them run out. one option could be a small "tidy tank" mounted to one of those racks that fit your receiver... rig up a 12v reversible pump, (or one of those fuel pump riggins that goes in your cordless drill). there are also poly fuel tanks for
boats that store a fair amount of fuel, and are relatively easy to handle...

I really wanted to get a rack for my spare wheel, but i can't find one anywhere.

http://project-jk.com/gallery2/main....serialNumber=2

Something like this, but with locks on the fuel cans that lock them to the rack. I am thinking if I can get 2 20L cans that would give me quite a bit of distance. As for water, not sure but I did see a really cool video with a fire fighter that put water in his bumper.


trigger 09-12-2013 05:50 PM

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that's frikkin' awesome! lol

i had an idea for making something that will fit in my spare tire pocket (below the back floor) in my grand cherokee... once i get my new tires, that will all be wasted space.

that video is seriously cool though! it's amazing what you can do with a little ingenuity. if you are handy at all with a welder, you could easily make up a fuel can rack similar to the one you pictured above. fabricating it yourself will save you money as opposed to purchasing one...

AutoJunkieMan 09-12-2013 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by trigger (Post 568487)
that's frikkin' awesome! lol

i had an idea for making something that will fit in my spare tire pocket (below the back floor) in my grand cherokee... once i get my new tires, that will all be wasted space.

that video is seriously cool though! it's amazing what you can do with a little ingenuity. if you are handy at all with a welder, you could easily make up a fuel can rack similar to the one you pictured above. fabricating it yourself will save you money as opposed to purchasing one...

I havn't done any welding in years, but I am pretty good at it. It's an interesting idea, maybe if I had my own welder and property to kinda work on it I'm sure i could come up with some pretty solid designs. But then I would also get a mandrel and make my own bumpers tire carrier and rock rails


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