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YKPAIHA 01-19-2009 01:40 PM

How to winter-proof TJ’s hard top
 
Ok, I got my Jeep few weeks ago, and the first thing I did I almost froze my brain. Does anybody have an idea how to “winterize” the hard top without making it extremely ugly? I thought of gluing Velcro to the roof and second part to some piece of cloth and stick it to the roof during winter time and remove it when it is not as cold as it is right now.
PS: hate to run my heater on high since its making lots of noise.

RiponredTJ 01-19-2009 07:43 PM

Re: How to winter-proof TJ’s hard top
 
I run the heater in my '98 at the 1st or 2nd blower setting with the window cracked open a couple of inches and I'm nice and warm after a few minutes driving. Maybe you have a heating problem.

If you don't have heat, insulation won't do you much good. If you've got proper heat, you really shouldn't need insulation.

YKPAIHA 01-19-2009 09:26 PM

Re: How to winter-proof TJ’s hard top
 
I never thought of that, I am a little low on engine coolant though, thats where the heat is coming from right?

Rubiconmike 01-19-2009 10:20 PM

Re: How to winter-proof TJ’s hard top
 
If there's not much heat you might want to try a heater core back flush.
Just like it sounds Flush the heater core buy it's self to get rid of sediment.

Let's not get into what it takes to remove one.

All you tj owners might want to take very good care of you're heater cores.

Trust me.

YKPAIHA 01-22-2009 11:35 PM

Re: How to winter-proof TJ’s hard top
 
Well, extreem cold outside is over for now - not so cold inside. But still i strongly believe that there are ways to make it more sealed to keep the heat inside. I mean there is raw metal showing up all over the interior, am i the only one concerned about it?lol

kazmonator 01-24-2009 09:54 PM

Re: How to winter-proof TJ’s hard top
 
Hi , i live way up North in Timmins , i,m on my 4th Jeep now , had a TJ , YJ , Liberty and now on a 4 door Wrangler . We have some pretty severe weather up here . With wind chills down to the -50 . The past few days here have been down in the -35 to -40 again. I can say that there has never been any time where the heater is insufficient in warming the inside of any of these that i,ve had .I had some other issues due to the cold but heat wasn,t one of them .Do as the others suggest and check your heater core . It may be that simple .

Mr White 01-24-2009 10:54 PM

Re: How to winter-proof TJ’s hard top
 
If you have a 4 cy you might want to look into buying a winter front. Cdn tire used to carry them now I know that national4wd has them and probably other offroading stores there ard $50. If its a 6 cy same thing or I find it not necessary for the 6 cy it heats really well.

jaygee 01-26-2009 02:50 PM

Re: How to winter-proof TJ’s hard top
 
Check out this site: OFFROAD HEROS - Top Liner.
You could also buy pieces of Armaflex (foam insulation that was once used on beer cooolies) and create your own barrier. Check out an industrial supply store.

RiponredTJ 01-26-2009 08:05 PM

Re: How to winter-proof TJ’s hard top
 
Ya gotta be kidding, right?
Like previously posted, the guy needs to fix his heating system.
Adding all kinds of insulation to the hardtop won't do anything if the heater don't work.
It'll still be cold.
If he fixes his heater, he won't need insulation.
PT Barnum was right.

jaygee 01-26-2009 09:14 PM

Re: How to winter-proof TJ’s hard top
 

Originally Posted by YKPAIHA (Post 518336)
Ok, I got my Jeep few weeks ago, and the first thing I did I almost froze my brain. [B]Does anybody have an idea how to “winterize” the hard top without making it extremely ugly?[/B] I thought of gluing Velcro to the roof and second part to some piece of cloth and stick it to the roof during winter time and remove it when it is not as cold as it is right now.
PS: hate to run my heater on high since its making lots of noise.


Well RIPONRED I was replying to the above reply, it states 'Does anybody have an idea how to “winterize” the hard top without making it extremely ugly? If I'm not mistaken I don't see anything about a heater issue.
Was PT Barnum refering someone who responds to an imaginary post?

YKPAIHA 01-26-2009 10:44 PM

Re: How to winter-proof TJ’s hard top
 

Originally Posted by jaygee (Post 519117)
Check out this site: OFFROAD HEROS - Top Liner.
You could also buy pieces of Armaflex (foam insulation that was once used on beer cooolies) and create your own barrier. Check out an industrial supply store.

wow that looks perfect(hate the price though). Ok, so I followed advices above(as well as my maintenance book) - I flushed the system, but nothing changed I get enough heat to heat up my jeep only on the 3rd blower speed, so I guess if it is not common for other jeeps to have the same low "blowing power" as I have - I will check the blower. Also I think there is nothing wrong to insulate the car a little bit anyways. I mean if there are commercial products available for it, way not make it cheaper myself))

Rubiconmike 01-27-2009 12:19 AM

Re: How to winter-proof TJ’s hard top
 

Originally Posted by jaygee (Post 519117)
Check out this site: OFFROAD HEROS - Top Liner.
You could also buy pieces of Armaflex (foam insulation that was once used on beer cooolies) and create your own barrier. Check out an industrial supply store.

Hey that stuffs kinda cool
The price if it's CDN isn't so bad.
It whould help with sound and insulate in all weather.
Not for me though but cool non the less i think.

Rubiconmike 01-27-2009 12:34 AM

Re: How to winter-proof TJ’s hard top
 

Originally Posted by YKPAIHA (Post 519169)
wow that looks perfect(hate the price though). Ok, so I followed advices above(as well as my maintenance book) - I flushed the system, but nothing changed I get enough heat to heat up my jeep only on the 3rd blower speed, so I guess if it is not common for other jeeps to have the same low "blowing power" as I have - I will check the blower. Also I think there is nothing wrong to insulate the car a little bit anyways. I mean if there are commercial products available for it, way not make it cheaper myself))

The blower problem sounds to me like the problem i went threw a little while back.
The blower only blows in the high switch seting right?
It a pice called a blower resistor. You'll finde it behinde the glove box.
One screw and un plug the wire harness.
You get them at the dealer for 25 bucks or so.
Funny here is the invoice.
Part# 05139719-AA Resistor 08-035-022.

The blower runs on full 12v all the time the switch switches between resistors
to nock the power to the fan down each click.
with out it it only runs on high.aka the last seting.
testing the switch only meses with you're head cus it works just fine.

Ask the parts guy hell say we sell them all the time.
you'll have to get on you're back to look up and under the glove box.

Hope that helps:urbuddy:

RiponredTJ 01-27-2009 07:19 AM

Re: How to winter-proof TJ’s hard top
 

Originally Posted by jaygee (Post 519167)
Well RIPONRED I was replying to the above reply, it states 'Does anybody have an idea how to “winterize” the hard top without making it extremely ugly? If I'm not mistaken I don't see anything about a heater issue.
Was PT Barnum refering someone who responds to an imaginary post?

Hey, I wasn't flaming you. I just didn't like the look or the price of that liner. But if the OP is cold, it is a heater issue and any amount of insulation won't fix the problem.

Instead of that pricey liner, I'd fix my heating issue first and then do something similar to this:

Hard Top Paint and Carpeting - 1

One of the best Jeep sites around BTW.

jaygee 01-27-2009 10:35 AM

Re: How to winter-proof TJ’s hard top
 

Originally Posted by RiponredTJ (Post 519223)
Hey, I wasn't flaming you. I just didn't like the look or the price of that liner. But if the OP is cold, it is a heater issue and any amount of insulation won't fix the problem.

Instead of that pricey liner, I'd fix my heating issue first and then do something similar to this:

Hard Top Paint and Carpeting - 1

One of the best Jeep sites around BTW.

Look good. I figure poor gas mileage and cold interior are the price you pay for no top in the summer and hitting the hills

Rubiconmike 01-27-2009 07:26 PM

Re: How to winter-proof TJ’s hard top
 

Originally Posted by RiponredTJ (Post 519223)
Hey, I wasn't flaming you. I just didn't like the look or the price of that liner. But if the OP is cold, it is a heater issue and any amount of insulation won't fix the problem.

Instead of that pricey liner, I'd fix my heating issue first and then do something similar to this:

Hard Top Paint and Carpeting - 1

One of the best Jeep sites around BTW.

Yes i agree.
Stue's web is awsome! He has spent so much time on it and has helped me out on all levels.

RiponredTJ 01-27-2009 09:22 PM

Re: How to winter-proof TJ’s hard top
 
Stu is to Jeeps like God like is to Religions. I always go there first. Have a good one out there on the waste coast Rubiconmike !

On another note, I didn't really like his choice of carpet, but I liked the idea. The concept being that you don't need a removable liner, because when it comes time to remove the liner, you'll be slapping on the soft top anyways. So why not just take your permanently insulated hardtop off in the spring and slap it back on in the fall.

I'd pick nicer material than the utility carpet in Stu's writeup though. Maybe some bold '60s shag :D or some material that's a little more advanced.

YKPAIHA 01-27-2009 09:40 PM

Re: How to winter-proof TJ’s hard top
 
ok on that write-up i didn't get why he painted the roof first? The rest looks fine,exept for the choice of color, i agree. I guess i'll do it for the next season since i dont want to remove my roof yet ))

RiponredTJ 01-28-2009 12:05 AM

Re: How to winter-proof TJ’s hard top
 

Originally Posted by YKPAIHA (Post 519282)
ok on that write-up i didn't get why he painted the roof first? The rest looks fine,exept for the choice of color, i agree. I guess i'll do it for the next season since i dont want to remove my roof yet ))

Just don't freeze your brain in the meantime :banana:

YKPAIHA 01-28-2009 04:45 PM

Re: How to winter-proof TJ’s hard top
 
PROBLEM is gone!!! RUBICONMIKE you were absolutely right it was the resistor. i got the part from dealership for 24.60(btw canadian tire was more expensive - $2 to be exact). Instalation was easy but it took me like hours to do it, there is not much space there. Thanks again!

Jazzer 01-29-2009 09:59 AM

Re: How to winter-proof TJ’s hard top
 
It is amazing that this many of us changed resistors at almost the same time.
All I did was take off the glove box,,,no tools....removed the one screw for the interior light, and from underneath and through to glove box opening take out the to screws holding it in, change took from start to finish under half hour and really convinced me what a great purchase and fun vehicle it was. It is hands down one of the easiest vehicles to work on and maintain.:)

Cheers

RiponredTJ 01-29-2009 08:50 PM

Re: How to winter-proof TJ’s hard top
 
So is anyone actually going to insulate or apply carpet to their hardtop? I really like my stock hardtop.

I think when I take mine off I might really clean it and give it a coat of white Krylon Fusion on the inside to freshen it up. Or maybe silver to reflect some heat in the winter :D

Jazzer 01-30-2009 10:44 AM

Re: How to winter-proof TJ’s hard top
 
Not touching mine, find it warm and fairly quite.

YKPAIHA 02-09-2009 08:15 PM

Re: How to winter-proof TJ’s hard top
 
I will, not for heat conseravation, just for fun. here is the material that i'm looking for
http://www.trendir.com/archives/jab-...asa-carpet.jpg
I will glue the Velcro to the roof (front part) and one to the carpet. So if i want to change it or clean it i will not have any problems. As soon as i find it will post picture before and after lol

RiponredTJ 02-09-2009 08:42 PM

Re: How to winter-proof TJ’s hard top
 

Originally Posted by YKPAIHA (Post 520079)
I will, not for heat conseravation, just for fun. here is the material that i'm looking for
http://www.trendir.com/archives/jab-...asa-carpet.jpg
I will glue the Velcro to the roof (front part) and one to the carpet. So if i want to change it or clean it i will not have any problems. As soon as i find it will post picture before and after lol

That's some scary stuff to be driving around with :D.
I'll stick with the Krylon though. White over the original white so that damage won't be too obvious.

And I'm not sure that velcro alone will do the job for you unless you want to live with sags, bulges and the hazards and headaches of always having your "liner" fall on your noggin while driving. Unless of course you go totally velcro crazy.

Jazzer 02-10-2009 06:56 AM

Re: How to winter-proof TJ’s hard top
 
This has GOT to be a joke..

YKPAIHA 02-16-2009 05:27 PM

Re: How to winter-proof TJ’s hard top
 
nope, not a joke. I've done it yesterday - i picked different material though. I'll start new thread to discuss it.


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