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Les 11-06-2006 05:47 PM

Re: ZJ Tranny or TC whine?
 



On 11/6/06 4:27 PM, in article FHO3h.26002$IJ1.24288@newsfe15.lga, "DougW"
<post.replies@invalid.address> wrote:

> Les wrote:
>> Ended up buying the rig. The gear whine is definitely coming from the
>> tranny, in first gear. Once it shifts into second, it's quiet. When
>> slowing down to a stop you can hear the whine as soon as the tranny
>> downshifts back into first. Also it shifts a little hard into second,
>> kinda like it has a shift kit in it, but It was a 1 owner and I know
>> that the PO didn't do anything like that.
>>
>> So what could I be looking at? Possible problems? I Plan on dropping
>> the pan and changing the fluid, and checking for metal shaving etc,
>> but haven't had the chance yet.
>>
>> If it ends up being a major issue, or if replacement is needed, can I
>> swap in an AW4. I hear these are bulletproof compared to the 42RE.

>
> How's the fluid level and color?


Full and decent but needs changed.

>
> Check the shift cable first. on some there is a button you can use
> to adjust the tension. Can't remember exactly how to set it but you
> don't want slack when the throttle is at idle and you don't want it
> topping out at wide open throttle.


You talking about the kickdown cable? Would that affect the hard shift?


>
> Could also be the bands need adjusting.


What exactly does that involve? Cracking open an auto tranny is one of the
few things I have yet to experience.


Les 11-06-2006 05:47 PM

Re: ZJ Tranny or TC whine?
 



On 11/6/06 4:27 PM, in article FHO3h.26002$IJ1.24288@newsfe15.lga, "DougW"
<post.replies@invalid.address> wrote:

> Les wrote:
>> Ended up buying the rig. The gear whine is definitely coming from the
>> tranny, in first gear. Once it shifts into second, it's quiet. When
>> slowing down to a stop you can hear the whine as soon as the tranny
>> downshifts back into first. Also it shifts a little hard into second,
>> kinda like it has a shift kit in it, but It was a 1 owner and I know
>> that the PO didn't do anything like that.
>>
>> So what could I be looking at? Possible problems? I Plan on dropping
>> the pan and changing the fluid, and checking for metal shaving etc,
>> but haven't had the chance yet.
>>
>> If it ends up being a major issue, or if replacement is needed, can I
>> swap in an AW4. I hear these are bulletproof compared to the 42RE.

>
> How's the fluid level and color?


Full and decent but needs changed.

>
> Check the shift cable first. on some there is a button you can use
> to adjust the tension. Can't remember exactly how to set it but you
> don't want slack when the throttle is at idle and you don't want it
> topping out at wide open throttle.


You talking about the kickdown cable? Would that affect the hard shift?


>
> Could also be the bands need adjusting.


What exactly does that involve? Cracking open an auto tranny is one of the
few things I have yet to experience.


Les 11-06-2006 05:47 PM

Re: ZJ Tranny or TC whine?
 



On 11/6/06 4:27 PM, in article FHO3h.26002$IJ1.24288@newsfe15.lga, "DougW"
<post.replies@invalid.address> wrote:

> Les wrote:
>> Ended up buying the rig. The gear whine is definitely coming from the
>> tranny, in first gear. Once it shifts into second, it's quiet. When
>> slowing down to a stop you can hear the whine as soon as the tranny
>> downshifts back into first. Also it shifts a little hard into second,
>> kinda like it has a shift kit in it, but It was a 1 owner and I know
>> that the PO didn't do anything like that.
>>
>> So what could I be looking at? Possible problems? I Plan on dropping
>> the pan and changing the fluid, and checking for metal shaving etc,
>> but haven't had the chance yet.
>>
>> If it ends up being a major issue, or if replacement is needed, can I
>> swap in an AW4. I hear these are bulletproof compared to the 42RE.

>
> How's the fluid level and color?


Full and decent but needs changed.

>
> Check the shift cable first. on some there is a button you can use
> to adjust the tension. Can't remember exactly how to set it but you
> don't want slack when the throttle is at idle and you don't want it
> topping out at wide open throttle.


You talking about the kickdown cable? Would that affect the hard shift?


>
> Could also be the bands need adjusting.


What exactly does that involve? Cracking open an auto tranny is one of the
few things I have yet to experience.


DougW 11-06-2006 06:15 PM

Re: ZJ Tranny or TC whine?
 
Les wrote:
> On 11/6/06 4:27 PM, in article "DougW" wrote:


>>
>> Check the shift cable first. on some there is a button you can use
>> to adjust the tension. Can't remember exactly how to set it but you
>> don't want slack when the throttle is at idle and you don't want it
>> topping out at wide open throttle.

>
> You talking about the kickdown cable? Would that affect the hard
> shift?


Yep. That cable controls the transmission shift points. Too taunt
or too lose and the tranny can drag or be harsh on shift. It's more
than just kickdown.

>> Could also be the bands need adjusting.

>
> What exactly does that involve? Cracking open an auto tranny is one
> of the few things I have yet to experience.


Fairly much it's dropping the pan and valve body. It's been a while
since I was in there and one of my friends was helping. Generally I
leave transmission work up to a good local garage when it goes beyond
fluid/filter. Too many fiddly bits.

--
DougW



DougW 11-06-2006 06:15 PM

Re: ZJ Tranny or TC whine?
 
Les wrote:
> On 11/6/06 4:27 PM, in article "DougW" wrote:


>>
>> Check the shift cable first. on some there is a button you can use
>> to adjust the tension. Can't remember exactly how to set it but you
>> don't want slack when the throttle is at idle and you don't want it
>> topping out at wide open throttle.

>
> You talking about the kickdown cable? Would that affect the hard
> shift?


Yep. That cable controls the transmission shift points. Too taunt
or too lose and the tranny can drag or be harsh on shift. It's more
than just kickdown.

>> Could also be the bands need adjusting.

>
> What exactly does that involve? Cracking open an auto tranny is one
> of the few things I have yet to experience.


Fairly much it's dropping the pan and valve body. It's been a while
since I was in there and one of my friends was helping. Generally I
leave transmission work up to a good local garage when it goes beyond
fluid/filter. Too many fiddly bits.

--
DougW



DougW 11-06-2006 06:15 PM

Re: ZJ Tranny or TC whine?
 
Les wrote:
> On 11/6/06 4:27 PM, in article "DougW" wrote:


>>
>> Check the shift cable first. on some there is a button you can use
>> to adjust the tension. Can't remember exactly how to set it but you
>> don't want slack when the throttle is at idle and you don't want it
>> topping out at wide open throttle.

>
> You talking about the kickdown cable? Would that affect the hard
> shift?


Yep. That cable controls the transmission shift points. Too taunt
or too lose and the tranny can drag or be harsh on shift. It's more
than just kickdown.

>> Could also be the bands need adjusting.

>
> What exactly does that involve? Cracking open an auto tranny is one
> of the few things I have yet to experience.


Fairly much it's dropping the pan and valve body. It's been a while
since I was in there and one of my friends was helping. Generally I
leave transmission work up to a good local garage when it goes beyond
fluid/filter. Too many fiddly bits.

--
DougW



billy ray 11-06-2006 07:22 PM

Re: ZJ Tranny or TC whine?
 
42re band adjustment

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n...adjustment.jpg


>
> >> Could also be the bands need adjusting.

>>
>> What exactly does that involve? Cracking open an auto tranny is one
>> of the few things I have yet to experience.

>




billy ray 11-06-2006 07:22 PM

Re: ZJ Tranny or TC whine?
 
42re band adjustment

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n...adjustment.jpg


>
> >> Could also be the bands need adjusting.

>>
>> What exactly does that involve? Cracking open an auto tranny is one
>> of the few things I have yet to experience.

>




billy ray 11-06-2006 07:22 PM

Re: ZJ Tranny or TC whine?
 
42re band adjustment

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n...adjustment.jpg


>
> >> Could also be the bands need adjusting.

>>
>> What exactly does that involve? Cracking open an auto tranny is one
>> of the few things I have yet to experience.

>




Les 11-07-2006 02:52 PM

Re: ZJ Tranny or TC whine?
 
I should be able to handle that. I'm assuming that that sheet is out of the
WJ's FSM? I've got one on the way for my 96. I also found the same info on
Jeepforums.com, but the only discrepancy is that they have listed to turn
back the Rear 2 7/8 turns, and the front back 2 turns compared to the 3 & 4
turns on your link. Could that just be the difference between model years?

I'll wait till I get my FSM before trying.


On 11/6/06 6:22 PM, in article 8fc00$454fd1e8$422afc51$8615@FUSE.NET, "billy
ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote:

> 42re band adjustment
>
> http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n...ansmission/42r
> ebandadjustment.jpg
>
>
>>
>>>> Could also be the bands need adjusting.
>>>
>>> What exactly does that involve? Cracking open an auto tranny is one
>>> of the few things I have yet to experience.

>>

>
>




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