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johnl 02-24-2006 05:37 PM

YJ mods
 
Not sure if what I just typed got posted (I'm somewhat challenged when
it comes to computer skills!), so I'm starting over. We (my wife and
I) have a '92 YJ that we flat tow behind our motorhome during summer
travel. It has a 4" Skyjacker plus a 1" +/- shackle lift. Tires are
32 x 11.5's. Will jump up to 35's when they are worn. We have tagged
along with a local Jeep club on a couple of local outings -- who, by
the way have an interesting definition of "beginner" runs, i.e.,
lockers recommended; body damage possible. We have considered
purchasing an '06 Rubicon, but have decided to keep and put a few bucks
into our YJ (really hate to dent/scratch/roll up a new, expensive,
vehicle!!). Right or wrong, we have comimtted to/ordered the following
modifications: replace the D35 with a ARB equiped (verses a Detroit
locker) D44 plus a SYE kit with a true neutral mod to the 231 xsfr case
(thus allowing, so I'm told, elimination of the existing 1" xsfr case
drop spacers and future installation of a D30 Super35 kit -- that
includes/requires getting rid of the vaccumm disconnect passenger side
2 pc inner axle. Question(s): Since I'm on a budget of sorts, what
should I do next. Install a Super30 kit with ARB or a 4:1 kit in the
xsfer case? Also, does anyone have any experience with/recommendations
for skid plates? Being somewhat new at this off-road/wheeling game, we
have already "mangled" the rear shock mounts. Any comments/advice
concerning mods we have committed to/are considering will be greatly
appreciated. Sorry for the somewhat long-winded verbage -- just wanted
to post the facts/background. Thanks for reading/your response.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 02-24-2006 06:23 PM

Re: YJ mods
 
Sounds like a plan to me.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

johnl wrote:
>
> Not sure if what I just typed got posted (I'm somewhat challenged when
> it comes to computer skills!), so I'm starting over. We (my wife and
> I) have a '92 YJ that we flat tow behind our motorhome during summer
> travel. It has a 4" Skyjacker plus a 1" +/- shackle lift. Tires are
> 32 x 11.5's. Will jump up to 35's when they are worn. We have tagged
> along with a local Jeep club on a couple of local outings -- who, by
> the way have an interesting definition of "beginner" runs, i.e.,
> lockers recommended; body damage possible. We have considered
> purchasing an '06 Rubicon, but have decided to keep and put a few bucks
> into our YJ (really hate to dent/scratch/roll up a new, expensive,
> vehicle!!). Right or wrong, we have comimtted to/ordered the following
> modifications: replace the D35 with a ARB equiped (verses a Detroit
> locker) D44 plus a SYE kit with a true neutral mod to the 231 xsfr case
> (thus allowing, so I'm told, elimination of the existing 1" xsfr case
> drop spacers and future installation of a D30 Super35 kit -- that
> includes/requires getting rid of the vaccumm disconnect passenger side
> 2 pc inner axle. Question(s): Since I'm on a budget of sorts, what
> should I do next. Install a Super30 kit with ARB or a 4:1 kit in the
> xsfer case? Also, does anyone have any experience with/recommendations
> for skid plates? Being somewhat new at this off-road/wheeling game, we
> have already "mangled" the rear shock mounts. Any comments/advice
> concerning mods we have committed to/are considering will be greatly
> appreciated. Sorry for the somewhat long-winded verbage -- just wanted
> to post the facts/background. Thanks for reading/your response.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 02-24-2006 06:23 PM

Re: YJ mods
 
Sounds like a plan to me.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

johnl wrote:
>
> Not sure if what I just typed got posted (I'm somewhat challenged when
> it comes to computer skills!), so I'm starting over. We (my wife and
> I) have a '92 YJ that we flat tow behind our motorhome during summer
> travel. It has a 4" Skyjacker plus a 1" +/- shackle lift. Tires are
> 32 x 11.5's. Will jump up to 35's when they are worn. We have tagged
> along with a local Jeep club on a couple of local outings -- who, by
> the way have an interesting definition of "beginner" runs, i.e.,
> lockers recommended; body damage possible. We have considered
> purchasing an '06 Rubicon, but have decided to keep and put a few bucks
> into our YJ (really hate to dent/scratch/roll up a new, expensive,
> vehicle!!). Right or wrong, we have comimtted to/ordered the following
> modifications: replace the D35 with a ARB equiped (verses a Detroit
> locker) D44 plus a SYE kit with a true neutral mod to the 231 xsfr case
> (thus allowing, so I'm told, elimination of the existing 1" xsfr case
> drop spacers and future installation of a D30 Super35 kit -- that
> includes/requires getting rid of the vaccumm disconnect passenger side
> 2 pc inner axle. Question(s): Since I'm on a budget of sorts, what
> should I do next. Install a Super30 kit with ARB or a 4:1 kit in the
> xsfer case? Also, does anyone have any experience with/recommendations
> for skid plates? Being somewhat new at this off-road/wheeling game, we
> have already "mangled" the rear shock mounts. Any comments/advice
> concerning mods we have committed to/are considering will be greatly
> appreciated. Sorry for the somewhat long-winded verbage -- just wanted
> to post the facts/background. Thanks for reading/your response.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 02-24-2006 06:23 PM

Re: YJ mods
 
Sounds like a plan to me.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

johnl wrote:
>
> Not sure if what I just typed got posted (I'm somewhat challenged when
> it comes to computer skills!), so I'm starting over. We (my wife and
> I) have a '92 YJ that we flat tow behind our motorhome during summer
> travel. It has a 4" Skyjacker plus a 1" +/- shackle lift. Tires are
> 32 x 11.5's. Will jump up to 35's when they are worn. We have tagged
> along with a local Jeep club on a couple of local outings -- who, by
> the way have an interesting definition of "beginner" runs, i.e.,
> lockers recommended; body damage possible. We have considered
> purchasing an '06 Rubicon, but have decided to keep and put a few bucks
> into our YJ (really hate to dent/scratch/roll up a new, expensive,
> vehicle!!). Right or wrong, we have comimtted to/ordered the following
> modifications: replace the D35 with a ARB equiped (verses a Detroit
> locker) D44 plus a SYE kit with a true neutral mod to the 231 xsfr case
> (thus allowing, so I'm told, elimination of the existing 1" xsfr case
> drop spacers and future installation of a D30 Super35 kit -- that
> includes/requires getting rid of the vaccumm disconnect passenger side
> 2 pc inner axle. Question(s): Since I'm on a budget of sorts, what
> should I do next. Install a Super30 kit with ARB or a 4:1 kit in the
> xsfer case? Also, does anyone have any experience with/recommendations
> for skid plates? Being somewhat new at this off-road/wheeling game, we
> have already "mangled" the rear shock mounts. Any comments/advice
> concerning mods we have committed to/are considering will be greatly
> appreciated. Sorry for the somewhat long-winded verbage -- just wanted
> to post the facts/background. Thanks for reading/your response.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 02-24-2006 06:23 PM

Re: YJ mods
 
Sounds like a plan to me.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

johnl wrote:
>
> Not sure if what I just typed got posted (I'm somewhat challenged when
> it comes to computer skills!), so I'm starting over. We (my wife and
> I) have a '92 YJ that we flat tow behind our motorhome during summer
> travel. It has a 4" Skyjacker plus a 1" +/- shackle lift. Tires are
> 32 x 11.5's. Will jump up to 35's when they are worn. We have tagged
> along with a local Jeep club on a couple of local outings -- who, by
> the way have an interesting definition of "beginner" runs, i.e.,
> lockers recommended; body damage possible. We have considered
> purchasing an '06 Rubicon, but have decided to keep and put a few bucks
> into our YJ (really hate to dent/scratch/roll up a new, expensive,
> vehicle!!). Right or wrong, we have comimtted to/ordered the following
> modifications: replace the D35 with a ARB equiped (verses a Detroit
> locker) D44 plus a SYE kit with a true neutral mod to the 231 xsfr case
> (thus allowing, so I'm told, elimination of the existing 1" xsfr case
> drop spacers and future installation of a D30 Super35 kit -- that
> includes/requires getting rid of the vaccumm disconnect passenger side
> 2 pc inner axle. Question(s): Since I'm on a budget of sorts, what
> should I do next. Install a Super30 kit with ARB or a 4:1 kit in the
> xsfer case? Also, does anyone have any experience with/recommendations
> for skid plates? Being somewhat new at this off-road/wheeling game, we
> have already "mangled" the rear shock mounts. Any comments/advice
> concerning mods we have committed to/are considering will be greatly
> appreciated. Sorry for the somewhat long-winded verbage -- just wanted
> to post the facts/background. Thanks for reading/your response.


Carl 02-24-2006 09:40 PM

Re: YJ mods
 
I would say get a front gears and locker before you get t-case gears. You
will be very lucky not to break a D30 front axle shaft with 35's.

What gears do you intend to run in the axles? If you get 4.88's when you do
the lockers, you will be able to properly turn your 35's without the t-case
gears.

Carl


"johnl" <hjl@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:1140820657.000344.80930@j33g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> Not sure if what I just typed got posted (I'm somewhat challenged when
> it comes to computer skills!), so I'm starting over. We (my wife and
> I) have a '92 YJ that we flat tow behind our motorhome during summer
> travel. It has a 4" Skyjacker plus a 1" +/- shackle lift. Tires are
> 32 x 11.5's. Will jump up to 35's when they are worn. We have tagged
> along with a local Jeep club on a couple of local outings -- who, by
> the way have an interesting definition of "beginner" runs, i.e.,
> lockers recommended; body damage possible. We have considered
> purchasing an '06 Rubicon, but have decided to keep and put a few bucks
> into our YJ (really hate to dent/scratch/roll up a new, expensive,
> vehicle!!). Right or wrong, we have comimtted to/ordered the following
> modifications: replace the D35 with a ARB equiped (verses a Detroit
> locker) D44 plus a SYE kit with a true neutral mod to the 231 xsfr case
> (thus allowing, so I'm told, elimination of the existing 1" xsfr case
> drop spacers and future installation of a D30 Super35 kit -- that
> includes/requires getting rid of the vaccumm disconnect passenger side
> 2 pc inner axle. Question(s): Since I'm on a budget of sorts, what
> should I do next. Install a Super30 kit with ARB or a 4:1 kit in the
> xsfer case? Also, does anyone have any experience with/recommendations
> for skid plates? Being somewhat new at this off-road/wheeling game, we
> have already "mangled" the rear shock mounts. Any comments/advice
> concerning mods we have committed to/are considering will be greatly
> appreciated. Sorry for the somewhat long-winded verbage -- just wanted
> to post the facts/background. Thanks for reading/your response.
>




Carl 02-24-2006 09:40 PM

Re: YJ mods
 
I would say get a front gears and locker before you get t-case gears. You
will be very lucky not to break a D30 front axle shaft with 35's.

What gears do you intend to run in the axles? If you get 4.88's when you do
the lockers, you will be able to properly turn your 35's without the t-case
gears.

Carl


"johnl" <hjl@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:1140820657.000344.80930@j33g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> Not sure if what I just typed got posted (I'm somewhat challenged when
> it comes to computer skills!), so I'm starting over. We (my wife and
> I) have a '92 YJ that we flat tow behind our motorhome during summer
> travel. It has a 4" Skyjacker plus a 1" +/- shackle lift. Tires are
> 32 x 11.5's. Will jump up to 35's when they are worn. We have tagged
> along with a local Jeep club on a couple of local outings -- who, by
> the way have an interesting definition of "beginner" runs, i.e.,
> lockers recommended; body damage possible. We have considered
> purchasing an '06 Rubicon, but have decided to keep and put a few bucks
> into our YJ (really hate to dent/scratch/roll up a new, expensive,
> vehicle!!). Right or wrong, we have comimtted to/ordered the following
> modifications: replace the D35 with a ARB equiped (verses a Detroit
> locker) D44 plus a SYE kit with a true neutral mod to the 231 xsfr case
> (thus allowing, so I'm told, elimination of the existing 1" xsfr case
> drop spacers and future installation of a D30 Super35 kit -- that
> includes/requires getting rid of the vaccumm disconnect passenger side
> 2 pc inner axle. Question(s): Since I'm on a budget of sorts, what
> should I do next. Install a Super30 kit with ARB or a 4:1 kit in the
> xsfer case? Also, does anyone have any experience with/recommendations
> for skid plates? Being somewhat new at this off-road/wheeling game, we
> have already "mangled" the rear shock mounts. Any comments/advice
> concerning mods we have committed to/are considering will be greatly
> appreciated. Sorry for the somewhat long-winded verbage -- just wanted
> to post the facts/background. Thanks for reading/your response.
>




Carl 02-24-2006 09:40 PM

Re: YJ mods
 
I would say get a front gears and locker before you get t-case gears. You
will be very lucky not to break a D30 front axle shaft with 35's.

What gears do you intend to run in the axles? If you get 4.88's when you do
the lockers, you will be able to properly turn your 35's without the t-case
gears.

Carl


"johnl" <hjl@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:1140820657.000344.80930@j33g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> Not sure if what I just typed got posted (I'm somewhat challenged when
> it comes to computer skills!), so I'm starting over. We (my wife and
> I) have a '92 YJ that we flat tow behind our motorhome during summer
> travel. It has a 4" Skyjacker plus a 1" +/- shackle lift. Tires are
> 32 x 11.5's. Will jump up to 35's when they are worn. We have tagged
> along with a local Jeep club on a couple of local outings -- who, by
> the way have an interesting definition of "beginner" runs, i.e.,
> lockers recommended; body damage possible. We have considered
> purchasing an '06 Rubicon, but have decided to keep and put a few bucks
> into our YJ (really hate to dent/scratch/roll up a new, expensive,
> vehicle!!). Right or wrong, we have comimtted to/ordered the following
> modifications: replace the D35 with a ARB equiped (verses a Detroit
> locker) D44 plus a SYE kit with a true neutral mod to the 231 xsfr case
> (thus allowing, so I'm told, elimination of the existing 1" xsfr case
> drop spacers and future installation of a D30 Super35 kit -- that
> includes/requires getting rid of the vaccumm disconnect passenger side
> 2 pc inner axle. Question(s): Since I'm on a budget of sorts, what
> should I do next. Install a Super30 kit with ARB or a 4:1 kit in the
> xsfer case? Also, does anyone have any experience with/recommendations
> for skid plates? Being somewhat new at this off-road/wheeling game, we
> have already "mangled" the rear shock mounts. Any comments/advice
> concerning mods we have committed to/are considering will be greatly
> appreciated. Sorry for the somewhat long-winded verbage -- just wanted
> to post the facts/background. Thanks for reading/your response.
>




Carl 02-24-2006 09:40 PM

Re: YJ mods
 
I would say get a front gears and locker before you get t-case gears. You
will be very lucky not to break a D30 front axle shaft with 35's.

What gears do you intend to run in the axles? If you get 4.88's when you do
the lockers, you will be able to properly turn your 35's without the t-case
gears.

Carl


"johnl" <hjl@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:1140820657.000344.80930@j33g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> Not sure if what I just typed got posted (I'm somewhat challenged when
> it comes to computer skills!), so I'm starting over. We (my wife and
> I) have a '92 YJ that we flat tow behind our motorhome during summer
> travel. It has a 4" Skyjacker plus a 1" +/- shackle lift. Tires are
> 32 x 11.5's. Will jump up to 35's when they are worn. We have tagged
> along with a local Jeep club on a couple of local outings -- who, by
> the way have an interesting definition of "beginner" runs, i.e.,
> lockers recommended; body damage possible. We have considered
> purchasing an '06 Rubicon, but have decided to keep and put a few bucks
> into our YJ (really hate to dent/scratch/roll up a new, expensive,
> vehicle!!). Right or wrong, we have comimtted to/ordered the following
> modifications: replace the D35 with a ARB equiped (verses a Detroit
> locker) D44 plus a SYE kit with a true neutral mod to the 231 xsfr case
> (thus allowing, so I'm told, elimination of the existing 1" xsfr case
> drop spacers and future installation of a D30 Super35 kit -- that
> includes/requires getting rid of the vaccumm disconnect passenger side
> 2 pc inner axle. Question(s): Since I'm on a budget of sorts, what
> should I do next. Install a Super30 kit with ARB or a 4:1 kit in the
> xsfer case? Also, does anyone have any experience with/recommendations
> for skid plates? Being somewhat new at this off-road/wheeling game, we
> have already "mangled" the rear shock mounts. Any comments/advice
> concerning mods we have committed to/are considering will be greatly
> appreciated. Sorry for the somewhat long-winded verbage -- just wanted
> to post the facts/background. Thanks for reading/your response.
>




johnl 02-26-2006 02:54 AM

Re: YJ mods
 
Carl, the Super30 kit has hardened/chromoly, 30 spline axles with
larger u-joints. Given these specs, do you think I'll still be pushing
my luck with 35's? Maybe I should limit tire size to 33's? I will be
using 4.10's both front and rear. Anything lower will result in to
high an rpm at 60+ mph with my existing 32's -- which still have 75 +/-
pct tread left. Right now gearing is 3.55 with the 32's. 4.0 with
130K miles and auto seems to pull ok -- so, I'm thinking that 33's with
the 4.10's should probably be ok. If you feel that the Super30 might
still be a little week with 35's, do you think it will hold up with
33's? What do you/others think? Thanks for your thoughts/input.

Bill, I know you love D35's. I'll give you a killer deal on mine when
it's swapped out for the D44. Interested??!



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