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Stupendous Man 12-08-2006 11:23 AM

XJ steps?
 
I have (OK my wife has) an 89 Cherokee that came with a 4 inch lift. She
already loosened the tilt-wheel attachment bolts using the wheel to climb
in. That's a bitch to fix! This isn't an offroader, just her snow car. I
have priced steps, and decided I should just make some. After examining the
underside of the vehicle it looks like an elaborate project to attach it so
it will be strong enough, by my standards. It would require threaded inserts
both in the semi-frame and the rockers to handle the lever forces reliably,
and will still tear away if high-centered on something.
I have not seen how the "tailor made" units attach. Do any of you have them,
and if so, can you send me a photo or 5 of the attachment points and tell me
if threaded riv-nuts were installed into the rockers?
Here's an email, change the capitalized words into symbols. This keeps
machines from harvesting it.
arborigine AT yahoo DOT com
Thanks

--
Stupendous Man,
Defender of Freedom, Advocate of Liberty



Earle Horton 12-08-2006 11:44 AM

Re: XJ steps?
 
I would be very surprised if any aftermarket step manufacturer used
technology as advanced as riv-nuts.

Earle

"Stupendous Man" <spam@trap.com> wrote in message
news:4tthr0F15ng3dU1@mid.individual.net...
> I have (OK my wife has) an 89 Cherokee that came with a 4 inch lift. She
> already loosened the tilt-wheel attachment bolts using the wheel to climb
> in. That's a bitch to fix! This isn't an offroader, just her snow car. I
> have priced steps, and decided I should just make some. After examining

the
> underside of the vehicle it looks like an elaborate project to attach it

so
> it will be strong enough, by my standards. It would require threaded

inserts
> both in the semi-frame and the rockers to handle the lever forces

reliably,
> and will still tear away if high-centered on something.
> I have not seen how the "tailor made" units attach. Do any of you have

them,
> and if so, can you send me a photo or 5 of the attachment points and tell

me
> if threaded riv-nuts were installed into the rockers?
> Here's an email, change the capitalized words into symbols. This keeps
> machines from harvesting it.
> arborigine AT yahoo DOT com
> Thanks
>
> --
> Stupendous Man,
> Defender of Freedom, Advocate of Liberty
>
>




Earle Horton 12-08-2006 11:44 AM

Re: XJ steps?
 
I would be very surprised if any aftermarket step manufacturer used
technology as advanced as riv-nuts.

Earle

"Stupendous Man" <spam@trap.com> wrote in message
news:4tthr0F15ng3dU1@mid.individual.net...
> I have (OK my wife has) an 89 Cherokee that came with a 4 inch lift. She
> already loosened the tilt-wheel attachment bolts using the wheel to climb
> in. That's a bitch to fix! This isn't an offroader, just her snow car. I
> have priced steps, and decided I should just make some. After examining

the
> underside of the vehicle it looks like an elaborate project to attach it

so
> it will be strong enough, by my standards. It would require threaded

inserts
> both in the semi-frame and the rockers to handle the lever forces

reliably,
> and will still tear away if high-centered on something.
> I have not seen how the "tailor made" units attach. Do any of you have

them,
> and if so, can you send me a photo or 5 of the attachment points and tell

me
> if threaded riv-nuts were installed into the rockers?
> Here's an email, change the capitalized words into symbols. This keeps
> machines from harvesting it.
> arborigine AT yahoo DOT com
> Thanks
>
> --
> Stupendous Man,
> Defender of Freedom, Advocate of Liberty
>
>




Earle Horton 12-08-2006 11:44 AM

Re: XJ steps?
 
I would be very surprised if any aftermarket step manufacturer used
technology as advanced as riv-nuts.

Earle

"Stupendous Man" <spam@trap.com> wrote in message
news:4tthr0F15ng3dU1@mid.individual.net...
> I have (OK my wife has) an 89 Cherokee that came with a 4 inch lift. She
> already loosened the tilt-wheel attachment bolts using the wheel to climb
> in. That's a bitch to fix! This isn't an offroader, just her snow car. I
> have priced steps, and decided I should just make some. After examining

the
> underside of the vehicle it looks like an elaborate project to attach it

so
> it will be strong enough, by my standards. It would require threaded

inserts
> both in the semi-frame and the rockers to handle the lever forces

reliably,
> and will still tear away if high-centered on something.
> I have not seen how the "tailor made" units attach. Do any of you have

them,
> and if so, can you send me a photo or 5 of the attachment points and tell

me
> if threaded riv-nuts were installed into the rockers?
> Here's an email, change the capitalized words into symbols. This keeps
> machines from harvesting it.
> arborigine AT yahoo DOT com
> Thanks
>
> --
> Stupendous Man,
> Defender of Freedom, Advocate of Liberty
>
>




Mike Romain 12-08-2006 12:12 PM

Re: XJ steps?
 
I took the stock ones off due to them being rust collectors that came on
our 87 and 88 Cherokees.

These each have a half dozen nuts and bolts that go through the bottom
flange of the rocker panel with gussets up into the front and rear wheel
wells for horizontal stability. They each then have 2 C channel pieces
that run across to the frame rails and bolt on there.

I could take a digital photo of them if you would like. They are
sitting in the side yard.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Stupendous Man wrote:
>
> I have (OK my wife has) an 89 Cherokee that came with a 4 inch lift. She
> already loosened the tilt-wheel attachment bolts using the wheel to climb
> in. That's a bitch to fix! This isn't an offroader, just her snow car. I
> have priced steps, and decided I should just make some. After examining the
> underside of the vehicle it looks like an elaborate project to attach it so
> it will be strong enough, by my standards. It would require threaded inserts
> both in the semi-frame and the rockers to handle the lever forces reliably,
> and will still tear away if high-centered on something.
> I have not seen how the "tailor made" units attach. Do any of you have them,
> and if so, can you send me a photo or 5 of the attachment points and tell me
> if threaded riv-nuts were installed into the rockers?
> Here's an email, change the capitalized words into symbols. This keeps
> machines from harvesting it.
> arborigine AT yahoo DOT com
> Thanks
>
> --
> Stupendous Man,
> Defender of Freedom, Advocate of Liberty


Mike Romain 12-08-2006 12:12 PM

Re: XJ steps?
 
I took the stock ones off due to them being rust collectors that came on
our 87 and 88 Cherokees.

These each have a half dozen nuts and bolts that go through the bottom
flange of the rocker panel with gussets up into the front and rear wheel
wells for horizontal stability. They each then have 2 C channel pieces
that run across to the frame rails and bolt on there.

I could take a digital photo of them if you would like. They are
sitting in the side yard.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Stupendous Man wrote:
>
> I have (OK my wife has) an 89 Cherokee that came with a 4 inch lift. She
> already loosened the tilt-wheel attachment bolts using the wheel to climb
> in. That's a bitch to fix! This isn't an offroader, just her snow car. I
> have priced steps, and decided I should just make some. After examining the
> underside of the vehicle it looks like an elaborate project to attach it so
> it will be strong enough, by my standards. It would require threaded inserts
> both in the semi-frame and the rockers to handle the lever forces reliably,
> and will still tear away if high-centered on something.
> I have not seen how the "tailor made" units attach. Do any of you have them,
> and if so, can you send me a photo or 5 of the attachment points and tell me
> if threaded riv-nuts were installed into the rockers?
> Here's an email, change the capitalized words into symbols. This keeps
> machines from harvesting it.
> arborigine AT yahoo DOT com
> Thanks
>
> --
> Stupendous Man,
> Defender of Freedom, Advocate of Liberty


Mike Romain 12-08-2006 12:12 PM

Re: XJ steps?
 
I took the stock ones off due to them being rust collectors that came on
our 87 and 88 Cherokees.

These each have a half dozen nuts and bolts that go through the bottom
flange of the rocker panel with gussets up into the front and rear wheel
wells for horizontal stability. They each then have 2 C channel pieces
that run across to the frame rails and bolt on there.

I could take a digital photo of them if you would like. They are
sitting in the side yard.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Stupendous Man wrote:
>
> I have (OK my wife has) an 89 Cherokee that came with a 4 inch lift. She
> already loosened the tilt-wheel attachment bolts using the wheel to climb
> in. That's a bitch to fix! This isn't an offroader, just her snow car. I
> have priced steps, and decided I should just make some. After examining the
> underside of the vehicle it looks like an elaborate project to attach it so
> it will be strong enough, by my standards. It would require threaded inserts
> both in the semi-frame and the rockers to handle the lever forces reliably,
> and will still tear away if high-centered on something.
> I have not seen how the "tailor made" units attach. Do any of you have them,
> and if so, can you send me a photo or 5 of the attachment points and tell me
> if threaded riv-nuts were installed into the rockers?
> Here's an email, change the capitalized words into symbols. This keeps
> machines from harvesting it.
> arborigine AT yahoo DOT com
> Thanks
>
> --
> Stupendous Man,
> Defender of Freedom, Advocate of Liberty


Stupendous Man 12-08-2006 10:19 PM

Re: XJ steps?
 
The description works, I don't think pics will add anything. It seems weak
to hang them from the rocker seam, but ------ing it out over a foot with a
bunch of small bolts or pop-rivets should handle it, then one big one to the
subframe will keep it aligned as the force there will be up. I'm just going
to bend them from tube and weld some expanded steel on for grip, then drop
them off at a powder coater.
Thanks
--
Stupendous Man,
Defender of Freedom, Advocate of Liberty



Stupendous Man 12-08-2006 10:19 PM

Re: XJ steps?
 
The description works, I don't think pics will add anything. It seems weak
to hang them from the rocker seam, but ------ing it out over a foot with a
bunch of small bolts or pop-rivets should handle it, then one big one to the
subframe will keep it aligned as the force there will be up. I'm just going
to bend them from tube and weld some expanded steel on for grip, then drop
them off at a powder coater.
Thanks
--
Stupendous Man,
Defender of Freedom, Advocate of Liberty



Stupendous Man 12-08-2006 10:19 PM

Re: XJ steps?
 
The description works, I don't think pics will add anything. It seems weak
to hang them from the rocker seam, but ------ing it out over a foot with a
bunch of small bolts or pop-rivets should handle it, then one big one to the
subframe will keep it aligned as the force there will be up. I'm just going
to bend them from tube and weld some expanded steel on for grip, then drop
them off at a powder coater.
Thanks
--
Stupendous Man,
Defender of Freedom, Advocate of Liberty




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