Re: XJ rear main seal: replace or leave alone?
 

Jeff, I will remind you, I used the term "seamed" which is like
guessing, right? Anyway, the mechanic set him up for the kill, as I did
in those days.
What it actually takes and the Flat Rate, are two different things.
Guess which one will be used.
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CRWLR wrote:
>
> This is not a confirmation that the rear main in fact IS LEAKING. All it is,
> is a statement that if it is leaking, it can leak for a long time before it
> completely fails.
>
> Despite all of this, we all know that the Valve Cover Gasket does a very
> good imitation of a rear main that has gone south. Before anything else is
> done on the rear main, it must be confirmed that the VC gasket isn't the
> real problem.
>
> Then, if the rear main is gone, the repair should take about 2 or 3 hours
> for a shop, and 3 or 4 hours at home.

Re: XJ rear main seal: replace or leave alone?
 

>Don't know what dealer you used but there's a place in Burnsville off
>Hwy 13 called Burnsville Off road that really knows there stuff about
>Jeeps and you can trust them. As you might guess I'm not real thrilled
>with the local Jeep dealers, Especially Park Jeep.

JD,
I did indeed go to Park Jeep, not because I like them but because they were
offering free vehicle inspections and I had the day off, so I figured I'd
take it in and see if they turned up anything that needed to be dealt with
before winter, having no intention of paying them to do the actual work.
They quoted:
1. Replace Front differential fluid (contaminated by water) : $75
2. Replace missing exhaust clamp: $58
3. Replace rear main seal: $550

My regular mechanic, (the one I emailed you his name and address) wasn't
available that day, so against my better judgement I called another place I
was familiar with- an inner city outfit, and they quoted $45 for both 1 &
2. They're the ones that said the seal might suddenly fail, and quoted
$350-$400 to replace it. Previously this place had tried to tell me my
drive chain needed replacement. My regular mechanic, who opened the
transfer case in order to replace the seals, found nothing wrong with it.

Thanks for the recommendation. Might be good to see what someone who works
on 4wd stuff all the time but is not a dealer has to say.

Everyone,
I'm pretty sure it's not the valve cover gasket, since that was replaced a
few months ago- It was obviously leaking oil on top of the engine. (Also
replaced the O-rings on the filter adapter). I've not washed the bottom of
the jeep since then, but the oil does appear to be fairly fresh, and looks
like it might be coming from between the engine and the tranny. It's
leaking enough to give the bottom of the tranny a good coat of lubrication,
but is not really enough to drip onto the ground yet.

Why might the dealer think water got into the differential when it hadn't,
or were they just putting me on? The fluid needed to be changed anyway, but
I don't like being lied to.


Monte Castleman, <<Spamfilter in Use>>
Bloomington, MN to email, remove the "q" from my address

Re: XJ rear main seal: replace or leave alone?
 

>Don't know what dealer you used but there's a place in Burnsville off
>Hwy 13 called Burnsville Off road that really knows there stuff about
>Jeeps and you can trust them. As you might guess I'm not real thrilled
>with the local Jeep dealers, Especially Park Jeep.

JD,
I did indeed go to Park Jeep, not because I like them but because they were
offering free vehicle inspections and I had the day off, so I figured I'd
take it in and see if they turned up anything that needed to be dealt with
before winter, having no intention of paying them to do the actual work.
They quoted:
1. Replace Front differential fluid (contaminated by water) : $75
2. Replace missing exhaust clamp: $58
3. Replace rear main seal: $550

My regular mechanic, (the one I emailed you his name and address) wasn't
available that day, so against my better judgement I called another place I
was familiar with- an inner city outfit, and they quoted $45 for both 1 &
2. They're the ones that said the seal might suddenly fail, and quoted
$350-$400 to replace it. Previously this place had tried to tell me my
drive chain needed replacement. My regular mechanic, who opened the
transfer case in order to replace the seals, found nothing wrong with it.

Thanks for the recommendation. Might be good to see what someone who works
on 4wd stuff all the time but is not a dealer has to say.

Everyone,
I'm pretty sure it's not the valve cover gasket, since that was replaced a
few months ago- It was obviously leaking oil on top of the engine. (Also
replaced the O-rings on the filter adapter). I've not washed the bottom of
the jeep since then, but the oil does appear to be fairly fresh, and looks
like it might be coming from between the engine and the tranny. It's
leaking enough to give the bottom of the tranny a good coat of lubrication,
but is not really enough to drip onto the ground yet.

Why might the dealer think water got into the differential when it hadn't,
or were they just putting me on? The fluid needed to be changed anyway, but
I don't like being lied to.


Monte Castleman, <<Spamfilter in Use>>
Bloomington, MN to email, remove the "q" from my address

Re: XJ rear main seal: replace or leave alone?
 

>Don't know what dealer you used but there's a place in Burnsville off
>Hwy 13 called Burnsville Off road that really knows there stuff about
>Jeeps and you can trust them. As you might guess I'm not real thrilled
>with the local Jeep dealers, Especially Park Jeep.

JD,
I did indeed go to Park Jeep, not because I like them but because they were
offering free vehicle inspections and I had the day off, so I figured I'd
take it in and see if they turned up anything that needed to be dealt with
before winter, having no intention of paying them to do the actual work.
They quoted:
1. Replace Front differential fluid (contaminated by water) : $75
2. Replace missing exhaust clamp: $58
3. Replace rear main seal: $550

My regular mechanic, (the one I emailed you his name and address) wasn't
available that day, so against my better judgement I called another place I
was familiar with- an inner city outfit, and they quoted $45 for both 1 &
2. They're the ones that said the seal might suddenly fail, and quoted
$350-$400 to replace it. Previously this place had tried to tell me my
drive chain needed replacement. My regular mechanic, who opened the
transfer case in order to replace the seals, found nothing wrong with it.

Thanks for the recommendation. Might be good to see what someone who works
on 4wd stuff all the time but is not a dealer has to say.

Everyone,
I'm pretty sure it's not the valve cover gasket, since that was replaced a
few months ago- It was obviously leaking oil on top of the engine. (Also
replaced the O-rings on the filter adapter). I've not washed the bottom of
the jeep since then, but the oil does appear to be fairly fresh, and looks
like it might be coming from between the engine and the tranny. It's
leaking enough to give the bottom of the tranny a good coat of lubrication,
but is not really enough to drip onto the ground yet.

Why might the dealer think water got into the differential when it hadn't,
or were they just putting me on? The fluid needed to be changed anyway, but
I don't like being lied to.


Monte Castleman, <<Spamfilter in Use>>
Bloomington, MN to email, remove the "q" from my address

Re: XJ rear main seal: replace or leave alone?
 

> It's leaking enough to give the bottom of the tranny a good coat of
lubrication, but is not really enough to drip onto the ground yet.>

Then it's not worth worrying about. A certian amount of seepage is normal.
The split main seal is is a rather weak design and can require frequent
attention on some Jeeps, virtually none on others. ( My '94 YJ gets a new
seal about every 20k miles.)

Re: XJ rear main seal: replace or leave alone?
 

> It's leaking enough to give the bottom of the tranny a good coat of
lubrication, but is not really enough to drip onto the ground yet.>

Then it's not worth worrying about. A certian amount of seepage is normal.
The split main seal is is a rather weak design and can require frequent
attention on some Jeeps, virtually none on others. ( My '94 YJ gets a new
seal about every 20k miles.)

Re: XJ rear main seal: replace or leave alone?
 

> It's leaking enough to give the bottom of the tranny a good coat of
lubrication, but is not really enough to drip onto the ground yet.>

Then it's not worth worrying about. A certian amount of seepage is normal.
The split main seal is is a rather weak design and can require frequent
attention on some Jeeps, virtually none on others. ( My '94 YJ gets a new
seal about every 20k miles.)

Re: XJ rear main seal: replace or leave alone?
 

As I pointed out above, mine would leave a puddle when parked after a drive.
If yours is just a wet tranny... don't worry about it.

JimG

"Monte Castleman" <qmdcastle@skypoint.com> wrote in message
news:vsasplmae0mme6@corp.supernews.com...
> >Don't know what dealer you used but there's a place in Burnsville off
> >Hwy 13 called Burnsville Off road that really knows there stuff about
> >Jeeps and you can trust them. As you might guess I'm not real thrilled
> >with the local Jeep dealers, Especially Park Jeep.
>
> JD,
> I did indeed go to Park Jeep, not because I like them but because they
were
> offering free vehicle inspections and I had the day off, so I figured I'd
> take it in and see if they turned up anything that needed to be dealt with
> before winter, having no intention of paying them to do the actual work.
> They quoted:
> 1. Replace Front differential fluid (contaminated by water) : $75
> 2. Replace missing exhaust clamp: $58
> 3. Replace rear main seal: $550
>
> My regular mechanic, (the one I emailed you his name and address) wasn't
> available that day, so against my better judgement I called another place
I
> was familiar with- an inner city outfit, and they quoted $45 for both 1 &
> 2. They're the ones that said the seal might suddenly fail, and quoted
> $350-$400 to replace it. Previously this place had tried to tell me my
> drive chain needed replacement. My regular mechanic, who opened the
> transfer case in order to replace the seals, found nothing wrong with it.
>
> Thanks for the recommendation. Might be good to see what someone who works
> on 4wd stuff all the time but is not a dealer has to say.
>
> Everyone,
> I'm pretty sure it's not the valve cover gasket, since that was replaced a
> few months ago- It was obviously leaking oil on top of the engine. (Also
> replaced the O-rings on the filter adapter). I've not washed the bottom of
> the jeep since then, but the oil does appear to be fairly fresh, and looks
> like it might be coming from between the engine and the tranny. It's
> leaking enough to give the bottom of the tranny a good coat of
lubrication,
> but is not really enough to drip onto the ground yet.
>
> Why might the dealer think water got into the differential when it hadn't,
> or were they just putting me on? The fluid needed to be changed anyway,
but
> I don't like being lied to.
>
>
> Monte Castleman, <<Spamfilter in Use>>
> Bloomington, MN to email, remove the "q" from my address
>
>

Re: XJ rear main seal: replace or leave alone?
 

As I pointed out above, mine would leave a puddle when parked after a drive.
If yours is just a wet tranny... don't worry about it.

JimG

"Monte Castleman" <qmdcastle@skypoint.com> wrote in message
news:vsasplmae0mme6@corp.supernews.com...
> >Don't know what dealer you used but there's a place in Burnsville off
> >Hwy 13 called Burnsville Off road that really knows there stuff about
> >Jeeps and you can trust them. As you might guess I'm not real thrilled
> >with the local Jeep dealers, Especially Park Jeep.
>
> JD,
> I did indeed go to Park Jeep, not because I like them but because they
were
> offering free vehicle inspections and I had the day off, so I figured I'd
> take it in and see if they turned up anything that needed to be dealt with
> before winter, having no intention of paying them to do the actual work.
> They quoted:
> 1. Replace Front differential fluid (contaminated by water) : $75
> 2. Replace missing exhaust clamp: $58
> 3. Replace rear main seal: $550
>
> My regular mechanic, (the one I emailed you his name and address) wasn't
> available that day, so against my better judgement I called another place
I
> was familiar with- an inner city outfit, and they quoted $45 for both 1 &
> 2. They're the ones that said the seal might suddenly fail, and quoted
> $350-$400 to replace it. Previously this place had tried to tell me my
> drive chain needed replacement. My regular mechanic, who opened the
> transfer case in order to replace the seals, found nothing wrong with it.
>
> Thanks for the recommendation. Might be good to see what someone who works
> on 4wd stuff all the time but is not a dealer has to say.
>
> Everyone,
> I'm pretty sure it's not the valve cover gasket, since that was replaced a
> few months ago- It was obviously leaking oil on top of the engine. (Also
> replaced the O-rings on the filter adapter). I've not washed the bottom of
> the jeep since then, but the oil does appear to be fairly fresh, and looks
> like it might be coming from between the engine and the tranny. It's
> leaking enough to give the bottom of the tranny a good coat of
lubrication,
> but is not really enough to drip onto the ground yet.
>
> Why might the dealer think water got into the differential when it hadn't,
> or were they just putting me on? The fluid needed to be changed anyway,
but
> I don't like being lied to.
>
>
> Monte Castleman, <<Spamfilter in Use>>
> Bloomington, MN to email, remove the "q" from my address
>
>

Re: XJ rear main seal: replace or leave alone?
 

As I pointed out above, mine would leave a puddle when parked after a drive.
If yours is just a wet tranny... don't worry about it.

JimG

"Monte Castleman" <qmdcastle@skypoint.com> wrote in message
news:vsasplmae0mme6@corp.supernews.com...
> >Don't know what dealer you used but there's a place in Burnsville off
> >Hwy 13 called Burnsville Off road that really knows there stuff about
> >Jeeps and you can trust them. As you might guess I'm not real thrilled
> >with the local Jeep dealers, Especially Park Jeep.
>
> JD,
> I did indeed go to Park Jeep, not because I like them but because they
were
> offering free vehicle inspections and I had the day off, so I figured I'd
> take it in and see if they turned up anything that needed to be dealt with
> before winter, having no intention of paying them to do the actual work.
> They quoted:
> 1. Replace Front differential fluid (contaminated by water) : $75
> 2. Replace missing exhaust clamp: $58
> 3. Replace rear main seal: $550
>
> My regular mechanic, (the one I emailed you his name and address) wasn't
> available that day, so against my better judgement I called another place
I
> was familiar with- an inner city outfit, and they quoted $45 for both 1 &
> 2. They're the ones that said the seal might suddenly fail, and quoted
> $350-$400 to replace it. Previously this place had tried to tell me my
> drive chain needed replacement. My regular mechanic, who opened the
> transfer case in order to replace the seals, found nothing wrong with it.
>
> Thanks for the recommendation. Might be good to see what someone who works
> on 4wd stuff all the time but is not a dealer has to say.
>
> Everyone,
> I'm pretty sure it's not the valve cover gasket, since that was replaced a
> few months ago- It was obviously leaking oil on top of the engine. (Also
> replaced the O-rings on the filter adapter). I've not washed the bottom of
> the jeep since then, but the oil does appear to be fairly fresh, and looks
> like it might be coming from between the engine and the tranny. It's
> leaking enough to give the bottom of the tranny a good coat of
lubrication,
> but is not really enough to drip onto the ground yet.
>
> Why might the dealer think water got into the differential when it hadn't,
> or were they just putting me on? The fluid needed to be changed anyway,
but
> I don't like being lied to.
>
>
> Monte Castleman, <<Spamfilter in Use>>
> Bloomington, MN to email, remove the "q" from my address
>
>