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Carl Saiyed 11-20-2004 08:55 PM

XJ Park lights
 
The driver's side (DS) "light out" indicator has been out on my 89 XJ since
I bought it. However, the passenger side (PS) parking light is the one that
was out. The PS indicator was not on. Both turn signals work.

In an effort to remedy the problem, I changed both bulbs. No luck. It seemed
that sometimes everything would work and then would instantly stop. I
thought the pins in the sockets may have been flattened and thus not
reaching the bulb to make contact, so I pulled them out and re-bent them to
fit properly. One broke, the rest had no luck in solving the problem. (This
was in a 1 hour period last night)

Today I put on new/used sockets from the junkyard. At first, the DS park
light and turn signal worked, the PS signal only. I switched the bulbs and
both turn signals only work. Brand new bulbs make no difference.

Now I only have turn signals with no park lights up front. Irritating. All
other bulbs/lights are operational. All fuses are good and the flash
canister is recent.

TIA,

Carl



Jeff Strickland 11-20-2004 10:00 PM

Re: XJ Park lights
 
You have a grounding issue with the affected lamp assembly. The turn signals
are either completely different lamps, or they are different filiments of
the same lamp. The Running Lamps are a filiment, the brake lamps are another
filiment in the same bulb. The turn signals are an entirely different lamp,
or they are the same filiment as the brake lamps. If you have amber turn
signals, they are different bulbs, if the turn signals are red, they are the
same filiment as the brake lamps. (I drive a CJ, so the configuration of the
XJ is a little fuzzy to me.)






"Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:419ff64d$1_5@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> The driver's side (DS) "light out" indicator has been out on my 89 XJ
> since
> I bought it. However, the passenger side (PS) parking light is the one
> that
> was out. The PS indicator was not on. Both turn signals work.
>
> In an effort to remedy the problem, I changed both bulbs. No luck. It
> seemed
> that sometimes everything would work and then would instantly stop. I
> thought the pins in the sockets may have been flattened and thus not
> reaching the bulb to make contact, so I pulled them out and re-bent them
> to
> fit properly. One broke, the rest had no luck in solving the problem.
> (This
> was in a 1 hour period last night)
>
> Today I put on new/used sockets from the junkyard. At first, the DS park
> light and turn signal worked, the PS signal only. I switched the bulbs and
> both turn signals only work. Brand new bulbs make no difference.
>
> Now I only have turn signals with no park lights up front. Irritating. All
> other bulbs/lights are operational. All fuses are good and the flash
> canister is recent.
>
> TIA,
>
> Carl
>
>




Jeff Strickland 11-20-2004 10:00 PM

Re: XJ Park lights
 
You have a grounding issue with the affected lamp assembly. The turn signals
are either completely different lamps, or they are different filiments of
the same lamp. The Running Lamps are a filiment, the brake lamps are another
filiment in the same bulb. The turn signals are an entirely different lamp,
or they are the same filiment as the brake lamps. If you have amber turn
signals, they are different bulbs, if the turn signals are red, they are the
same filiment as the brake lamps. (I drive a CJ, so the configuration of the
XJ is a little fuzzy to me.)






"Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:419ff64d$1_5@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> The driver's side (DS) "light out" indicator has been out on my 89 XJ
> since
> I bought it. However, the passenger side (PS) parking light is the one
> that
> was out. The PS indicator was not on. Both turn signals work.
>
> In an effort to remedy the problem, I changed both bulbs. No luck. It
> seemed
> that sometimes everything would work and then would instantly stop. I
> thought the pins in the sockets may have been flattened and thus not
> reaching the bulb to make contact, so I pulled them out and re-bent them
> to
> fit properly. One broke, the rest had no luck in solving the problem.
> (This
> was in a 1 hour period last night)
>
> Today I put on new/used sockets from the junkyard. At first, the DS park
> light and turn signal worked, the PS signal only. I switched the bulbs and
> both turn signals only work. Brand new bulbs make no difference.
>
> Now I only have turn signals with no park lights up front. Irritating. All
> other bulbs/lights are operational. All fuses are good and the flash
> canister is recent.
>
> TIA,
>
> Carl
>
>




Jeff Strickland 11-20-2004 10:00 PM

Re: XJ Park lights
 
You have a grounding issue with the affected lamp assembly. The turn signals
are either completely different lamps, or they are different filiments of
the same lamp. The Running Lamps are a filiment, the brake lamps are another
filiment in the same bulb. The turn signals are an entirely different lamp,
or they are the same filiment as the brake lamps. If you have amber turn
signals, they are different bulbs, if the turn signals are red, they are the
same filiment as the brake lamps. (I drive a CJ, so the configuration of the
XJ is a little fuzzy to me.)






"Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:419ff64d$1_5@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> The driver's side (DS) "light out" indicator has been out on my 89 XJ
> since
> I bought it. However, the passenger side (PS) parking light is the one
> that
> was out. The PS indicator was not on. Both turn signals work.
>
> In an effort to remedy the problem, I changed both bulbs. No luck. It
> seemed
> that sometimes everything would work and then would instantly stop. I
> thought the pins in the sockets may have been flattened and thus not
> reaching the bulb to make contact, so I pulled them out and re-bent them
> to
> fit properly. One broke, the rest had no luck in solving the problem.
> (This
> was in a 1 hour period last night)
>
> Today I put on new/used sockets from the junkyard. At first, the DS park
> light and turn signal worked, the PS signal only. I switched the bulbs and
> both turn signals only work. Brand new bulbs make no difference.
>
> Now I only have turn signals with no park lights up front. Irritating. All
> other bulbs/lights are operational. All fuses are good and the flash
> canister is recent.
>
> TIA,
>
> Carl
>
>




Carl Saiyed 11-21-2004 03:39 AM

Re: XJ Park lights
 
On the XJ front lamps the turn signal and park light are in the same bulb,
different filiments. There are three wires eminating from the socket. I
assume two are for +12v (one for park, one for signal) and the third is for
a ground.

Thanks,

Carl

"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:10q016fr4a1vd07@corp.supernews.com...
> You have a grounding issue with the affected lamp assembly. The turn

signals
> are either completely different lamps, or they are different filiments of
> the same lamp. The Running Lamps are a filiment, the brake lamps are

another
> filiment in the same bulb. The turn signals are an entirely different

lamp,
> or they are the same filiment as the brake lamps. If you have amber turn
> signals, they are different bulbs, if the turn signals are red, they are

the
> same filiment as the brake lamps. (I drive a CJ, so the configuration of

the
> XJ is a little fuzzy to me.)
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:419ff64d$1_5@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> > The driver's side (DS) "light out" indicator has been out on my 89 XJ
> > since
> > I bought it. However, the passenger side (PS) parking light is the one
> > that
> > was out. The PS indicator was not on. Both turn signals work.
> >
> > In an effort to remedy the problem, I changed both bulbs. No luck. It
> > seemed
> > that sometimes everything would work and then would instantly stop. I
> > thought the pins in the sockets may have been flattened and thus not
> > reaching the bulb to make contact, so I pulled them out and re-bent them
> > to
> > fit properly. One broke, the rest had no luck in solving the problem.
> > (This
> > was in a 1 hour period last night)
> >
> > Today I put on new/used sockets from the junkyard. At first, the DS park
> > light and turn signal worked, the PS signal only. I switched the bulbs

and
> > both turn signals only work. Brand new bulbs make no difference.
> >
> > Now I only have turn signals with no park lights up front. Irritating.

All
> > other bulbs/lights are operational. All fuses are good and the flash
> > canister is recent.
> >
> > TIA,
> >
> > Carl
> >
> >

>
>




Carl Saiyed 11-21-2004 03:39 AM

Re: XJ Park lights
 
On the XJ front lamps the turn signal and park light are in the same bulb,
different filiments. There are three wires eminating from the socket. I
assume two are for +12v (one for park, one for signal) and the third is for
a ground.

Thanks,

Carl

"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:10q016fr4a1vd07@corp.supernews.com...
> You have a grounding issue with the affected lamp assembly. The turn

signals
> are either completely different lamps, or they are different filiments of
> the same lamp. The Running Lamps are a filiment, the brake lamps are

another
> filiment in the same bulb. The turn signals are an entirely different

lamp,
> or they are the same filiment as the brake lamps. If you have amber turn
> signals, they are different bulbs, if the turn signals are red, they are

the
> same filiment as the brake lamps. (I drive a CJ, so the configuration of

the
> XJ is a little fuzzy to me.)
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:419ff64d$1_5@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> > The driver's side (DS) "light out" indicator has been out on my 89 XJ
> > since
> > I bought it. However, the passenger side (PS) parking light is the one
> > that
> > was out. The PS indicator was not on. Both turn signals work.
> >
> > In an effort to remedy the problem, I changed both bulbs. No luck. It
> > seemed
> > that sometimes everything would work and then would instantly stop. I
> > thought the pins in the sockets may have been flattened and thus not
> > reaching the bulb to make contact, so I pulled them out and re-bent them
> > to
> > fit properly. One broke, the rest had no luck in solving the problem.
> > (This
> > was in a 1 hour period last night)
> >
> > Today I put on new/used sockets from the junkyard. At first, the DS park
> > light and turn signal worked, the PS signal only. I switched the bulbs

and
> > both turn signals only work. Brand new bulbs make no difference.
> >
> > Now I only have turn signals with no park lights up front. Irritating.

All
> > other bulbs/lights are operational. All fuses are good and the flash
> > canister is recent.
> >
> > TIA,
> >
> > Carl
> >
> >

>
>




Carl Saiyed 11-21-2004 03:39 AM

Re: XJ Park lights
 
On the XJ front lamps the turn signal and park light are in the same bulb,
different filiments. There are three wires eminating from the socket. I
assume two are for +12v (one for park, one for signal) and the third is for
a ground.

Thanks,

Carl

"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:10q016fr4a1vd07@corp.supernews.com...
> You have a grounding issue with the affected lamp assembly. The turn

signals
> are either completely different lamps, or they are different filiments of
> the same lamp. The Running Lamps are a filiment, the brake lamps are

another
> filiment in the same bulb. The turn signals are an entirely different

lamp,
> or they are the same filiment as the brake lamps. If you have amber turn
> signals, they are different bulbs, if the turn signals are red, they are

the
> same filiment as the brake lamps. (I drive a CJ, so the configuration of

the
> XJ is a little fuzzy to me.)
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:419ff64d$1_5@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> > The driver's side (DS) "light out" indicator has been out on my 89 XJ
> > since
> > I bought it. However, the passenger side (PS) parking light is the one
> > that
> > was out. The PS indicator was not on. Both turn signals work.
> >
> > In an effort to remedy the problem, I changed both bulbs. No luck. It
> > seemed
> > that sometimes everything would work and then would instantly stop. I
> > thought the pins in the sockets may have been flattened and thus not
> > reaching the bulb to make contact, so I pulled them out and re-bent them
> > to
> > fit properly. One broke, the rest had no luck in solving the problem.
> > (This
> > was in a 1 hour period last night)
> >
> > Today I put on new/used sockets from the junkyard. At first, the DS park
> > light and turn signal worked, the PS signal only. I switched the bulbs

and
> > both turn signals only work. Brand new bulbs make no difference.
> >
> > Now I only have turn signals with no park lights up front. Irritating.

All
> > other bulbs/lights are operational. All fuses are good and the flash
> > canister is recent.
> >
> > TIA,
> >
> > Carl
> >
> >

>
>




qiq 11-21-2004 04:08 AM

Re: XJ Park lights
 
> On the XJ front lamps the turn signal and park light are in the same bulb,
> different filiments. There are three wires eminating from the socket. I
> assume two are for +12v (one for park, one for signal) and the third is

for
> a ground.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Carl

It seems front park/turn lamps have no ground connection. If You turn on
park lights a power will go from +12v ("park" wire) to bulb, then to ....
ground?- not because "ground" wire has no connection (I think); to....
"turn" wire? - not because this wire ends on open relay (turn relay).
I may be wrong, but try to test by Ohmometer "ground" wire from socket to
chassis or other srcow-head.
Sorry for english

regards
Qiq.pl
XJ 4.0'89



qiq 11-21-2004 04:08 AM

Re: XJ Park lights
 
> On the XJ front lamps the turn signal and park light are in the same bulb,
> different filiments. There are three wires eminating from the socket. I
> assume two are for +12v (one for park, one for signal) and the third is

for
> a ground.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Carl

It seems front park/turn lamps have no ground connection. If You turn on
park lights a power will go from +12v ("park" wire) to bulb, then to ....
ground?- not because "ground" wire has no connection (I think); to....
"turn" wire? - not because this wire ends on open relay (turn relay).
I may be wrong, but try to test by Ohmometer "ground" wire from socket to
chassis or other srcow-head.
Sorry for english

regards
Qiq.pl
XJ 4.0'89



qiq 11-21-2004 04:08 AM

Re: XJ Park lights
 
> On the XJ front lamps the turn signal and park light are in the same bulb,
> different filiments. There are three wires eminating from the socket. I
> assume two are for +12v (one for park, one for signal) and the third is

for
> a ground.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Carl

It seems front park/turn lamps have no ground connection. If You turn on
park lights a power will go from +12v ("park" wire) to bulb, then to ....
ground?- not because "ground" wire has no connection (I think); to....
"turn" wire? - not because this wire ends on open relay (turn relay).
I may be wrong, but try to test by Ohmometer "ground" wire from socket to
chassis or other srcow-head.
Sorry for english

regards
Qiq.pl
XJ 4.0'89




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