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SoK66 03-19-2006 11:51 PM

WJ Brakes Class Action Approved in Florida
 
Just thought I'd pass on some info from the Automotive News. A judge in
Florida has allowed a class action suit against Daimler Chrysler to proceed.
The plaintiff is the owner of an '02 WJ Grand Cherokee with the infamous
front brake judder problem. He and his attorney claim DC notified dealers
via TSB of the problem but has tried to avoid helping consumers by denying
there is a design issue, and by reducing warranty coverage. (DC reduced
brakes warranty coverage to 12 months / 12k miles a few years ago.)

Anyway, if you're among the many that have had this issue pop up on your WJ
you may want to do some searches and stay abreast of this issue. FWIW, I had
an '01 with the problem. In '03 DC replaced the front calipers and rotors
FOC under warranty with '02 & later spec units. However, DC has denied
coverage for many other folks who have gotten stuck with big bills to fix
this issue. The problem seems to stem from the composite rotor design DC
used on these & other vehicles to save weight & cost. One fix has been to
throw the factory composite rotors away and replace them with NAPA or other
aftermarket full cast rotors. Not sure how the lawsuit will handle this.



L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 03-20-2006 12:42 AM

Re: WJ Brakes Class Action Approved in Florida
 
Calipers already replaced: http://www.----------.com/WJCaliber.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

SoK66 wrote:
>
> Just thought I'd pass on some info from the Automotive News. A judge in
> Florida has allowed a class action suit against Daimler Chrysler to proceed.
> The plaintiff is the owner of an '02 WJ Grand Cherokee with the infamous
> front brake judder problem. He and his attorney claim DC notified dealers
> via TSB of the problem but has tried to avoid helping consumers by denying
> there is a design issue, and by reducing warranty coverage. (DC reduced
> brakes warranty coverage to 12 months / 12k miles a few years ago.)
>
> Anyway, if you're among the many that have had this issue pop up on your WJ
> you may want to do some searches and stay abreast of this issue. FWIW, I had
> an '01 with the problem. In '03 DC replaced the front calipers and rotors
> FOC under warranty with '02 & later spec units. However, DC has denied
> coverage for many other folks who have gotten stuck with big bills to fix
> this issue. The problem seems to stem from the composite rotor design DC
> used on these & other vehicles to save weight & cost. One fix has been to
> throw the factory composite rotors away and replace them with NAPA or other
> aftermarket full cast rotors. Not sure how the lawsuit will handle this.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 03-20-2006 12:42 AM

Re: WJ Brakes Class Action Approved in Florida
 
Calipers already replaced: http://www.----------.com/WJCaliber.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

SoK66 wrote:
>
> Just thought I'd pass on some info from the Automotive News. A judge in
> Florida has allowed a class action suit against Daimler Chrysler to proceed.
> The plaintiff is the owner of an '02 WJ Grand Cherokee with the infamous
> front brake judder problem. He and his attorney claim DC notified dealers
> via TSB of the problem but has tried to avoid helping consumers by denying
> there is a design issue, and by reducing warranty coverage. (DC reduced
> brakes warranty coverage to 12 months / 12k miles a few years ago.)
>
> Anyway, if you're among the many that have had this issue pop up on your WJ
> you may want to do some searches and stay abreast of this issue. FWIW, I had
> an '01 with the problem. In '03 DC replaced the front calipers and rotors
> FOC under warranty with '02 & later spec units. However, DC has denied
> coverage for many other folks who have gotten stuck with big bills to fix
> this issue. The problem seems to stem from the composite rotor design DC
> used on these & other vehicles to save weight & cost. One fix has been to
> throw the factory composite rotors away and replace them with NAPA or other
> aftermarket full cast rotors. Not sure how the lawsuit will handle this.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 03-20-2006 12:42 AM

Re: WJ Brakes Class Action Approved in Florida
 
Calipers already replaced: http://www.----------.com/WJCaliber.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

SoK66 wrote:
>
> Just thought I'd pass on some info from the Automotive News. A judge in
> Florida has allowed a class action suit against Daimler Chrysler to proceed.
> The plaintiff is the owner of an '02 WJ Grand Cherokee with the infamous
> front brake judder problem. He and his attorney claim DC notified dealers
> via TSB of the problem but has tried to avoid helping consumers by denying
> there is a design issue, and by reducing warranty coverage. (DC reduced
> brakes warranty coverage to 12 months / 12k miles a few years ago.)
>
> Anyway, if you're among the many that have had this issue pop up on your WJ
> you may want to do some searches and stay abreast of this issue. FWIW, I had
> an '01 with the problem. In '03 DC replaced the front calipers and rotors
> FOC under warranty with '02 & later spec units. However, DC has denied
> coverage for many other folks who have gotten stuck with big bills to fix
> this issue. The problem seems to stem from the composite rotor design DC
> used on these & other vehicles to save weight & cost. One fix has been to
> throw the factory composite rotors away and replace them with NAPA or other
> aftermarket full cast rotors. Not sure how the lawsuit will handle this.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 03-20-2006 12:42 AM

Re: WJ Brakes Class Action Approved in Florida
 
Calipers already replaced: http://www.----------.com/WJCaliber.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

SoK66 wrote:
>
> Just thought I'd pass on some info from the Automotive News. A judge in
> Florida has allowed a class action suit against Daimler Chrysler to proceed.
> The plaintiff is the owner of an '02 WJ Grand Cherokee with the infamous
> front brake judder problem. He and his attorney claim DC notified dealers
> via TSB of the problem but has tried to avoid helping consumers by denying
> there is a design issue, and by reducing warranty coverage. (DC reduced
> brakes warranty coverage to 12 months / 12k miles a few years ago.)
>
> Anyway, if you're among the many that have had this issue pop up on your WJ
> you may want to do some searches and stay abreast of this issue. FWIW, I had
> an '01 with the problem. In '03 DC replaced the front calipers and rotors
> FOC under warranty with '02 & later spec units. However, DC has denied
> coverage for many other folks who have gotten stuck with big bills to fix
> this issue. The problem seems to stem from the composite rotor design DC
> used on these & other vehicles to save weight & cost. One fix has been to
> throw the factory composite rotors away and replace them with NAPA or other
> aftermarket full cast rotors. Not sure how the lawsuit will handle this.


billy ray 03-20-2006 03:47 AM

Re: WJ Brakes Class Action Approved in Florida
 
When my brakes were replaced last year the catalogues listed both the Teves
and Akebono calipers and gave the description that one was black and the
other silver to differentiate them.

The problem arose that my silver calipers appeared black as they had been
underneath the WJ covered in brake dust and grime for 3 years...

The first set had to be returned.....


"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:441E40B7.7E2F5CE2@cox.net...
> Calipers already replaced: http://www.----------.com/WJCaliber.jpg
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> SoK66 wrote:
>>
>> Just thought I'd pass on some info from the Automotive News. A judge in
>> Florida has allowed a class action suit against Daimler Chrysler to
>> proceed.
>> The plaintiff is the owner of an '02 WJ Grand Cherokee with the infamous
>> front brake judder problem. He and his attorney claim DC notified dealers
>> via TSB of the problem but has tried to avoid helping consumers by
>> denying
>> there is a design issue, and by reducing warranty coverage. (DC reduced
>> brakes warranty coverage to 12 months / 12k miles a few years ago.)
>>
>> Anyway, if you're among the many that have had this issue pop up on your
>> WJ
>> you may want to do some searches and stay abreast of this issue. FWIW, I
>> had
>> an '01 with the problem. In '03 DC replaced the front calipers and rotors
>> FOC under warranty with '02 & later spec units. However, DC has denied
>> coverage for many other folks who have gotten stuck with big bills to fix
>> this issue. The problem seems to stem from the composite rotor design DC
>> used on these & other vehicles to save weight & cost. One fix has been to
>> throw the factory composite rotors away and replace them with NAPA or
>> other
>> aftermarket full cast rotors. Not sure how the lawsuit will handle this.




billy ray 03-20-2006 03:47 AM

Re: WJ Brakes Class Action Approved in Florida
 
When my brakes were replaced last year the catalogues listed both the Teves
and Akebono calipers and gave the description that one was black and the
other silver to differentiate them.

The problem arose that my silver calipers appeared black as they had been
underneath the WJ covered in brake dust and grime for 3 years...

The first set had to be returned.....


"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:441E40B7.7E2F5CE2@cox.net...
> Calipers already replaced: http://www.----------.com/WJCaliber.jpg
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> SoK66 wrote:
>>
>> Just thought I'd pass on some info from the Automotive News. A judge in
>> Florida has allowed a class action suit against Daimler Chrysler to
>> proceed.
>> The plaintiff is the owner of an '02 WJ Grand Cherokee with the infamous
>> front brake judder problem. He and his attorney claim DC notified dealers
>> via TSB of the problem but has tried to avoid helping consumers by
>> denying
>> there is a design issue, and by reducing warranty coverage. (DC reduced
>> brakes warranty coverage to 12 months / 12k miles a few years ago.)
>>
>> Anyway, if you're among the many that have had this issue pop up on your
>> WJ
>> you may want to do some searches and stay abreast of this issue. FWIW, I
>> had
>> an '01 with the problem. In '03 DC replaced the front calipers and rotors
>> FOC under warranty with '02 & later spec units. However, DC has denied
>> coverage for many other folks who have gotten stuck with big bills to fix
>> this issue. The problem seems to stem from the composite rotor design DC
>> used on these & other vehicles to save weight & cost. One fix has been to
>> throw the factory composite rotors away and replace them with NAPA or
>> other
>> aftermarket full cast rotors. Not sure how the lawsuit will handle this.




billy ray 03-20-2006 03:47 AM

Re: WJ Brakes Class Action Approved in Florida
 
When my brakes were replaced last year the catalogues listed both the Teves
and Akebono calipers and gave the description that one was black and the
other silver to differentiate them.

The problem arose that my silver calipers appeared black as they had been
underneath the WJ covered in brake dust and grime for 3 years...

The first set had to be returned.....


"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:441E40B7.7E2F5CE2@cox.net...
> Calipers already replaced: http://www.----------.com/WJCaliber.jpg
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> SoK66 wrote:
>>
>> Just thought I'd pass on some info from the Automotive News. A judge in
>> Florida has allowed a class action suit against Daimler Chrysler to
>> proceed.
>> The plaintiff is the owner of an '02 WJ Grand Cherokee with the infamous
>> front brake judder problem. He and his attorney claim DC notified dealers
>> via TSB of the problem but has tried to avoid helping consumers by
>> denying
>> there is a design issue, and by reducing warranty coverage. (DC reduced
>> brakes warranty coverage to 12 months / 12k miles a few years ago.)
>>
>> Anyway, if you're among the many that have had this issue pop up on your
>> WJ
>> you may want to do some searches and stay abreast of this issue. FWIW, I
>> had
>> an '01 with the problem. In '03 DC replaced the front calipers and rotors
>> FOC under warranty with '02 & later spec units. However, DC has denied
>> coverage for many other folks who have gotten stuck with big bills to fix
>> this issue. The problem seems to stem from the composite rotor design DC
>> used on these & other vehicles to save weight & cost. One fix has been to
>> throw the factory composite rotors away and replace them with NAPA or
>> other
>> aftermarket full cast rotors. Not sure how the lawsuit will handle this.




billy ray 03-20-2006 03:47 AM

Re: WJ Brakes Class Action Approved in Florida
 
When my brakes were replaced last year the catalogues listed both the Teves
and Akebono calipers and gave the description that one was black and the
other silver to differentiate them.

The problem arose that my silver calipers appeared black as they had been
underneath the WJ covered in brake dust and grime for 3 years...

The first set had to be returned.....


"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:441E40B7.7E2F5CE2@cox.net...
> Calipers already replaced: http://www.----------.com/WJCaliber.jpg
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> SoK66 wrote:
>>
>> Just thought I'd pass on some info from the Automotive News. A judge in
>> Florida has allowed a class action suit against Daimler Chrysler to
>> proceed.
>> The plaintiff is the owner of an '02 WJ Grand Cherokee with the infamous
>> front brake judder problem. He and his attorney claim DC notified dealers
>> via TSB of the problem but has tried to avoid helping consumers by
>> denying
>> there is a design issue, and by reducing warranty coverage. (DC reduced
>> brakes warranty coverage to 12 months / 12k miles a few years ago.)
>>
>> Anyway, if you're among the many that have had this issue pop up on your
>> WJ
>> you may want to do some searches and stay abreast of this issue. FWIW, I
>> had
>> an '01 with the problem. In '03 DC replaced the front calipers and rotors
>> FOC under warranty with '02 & later spec units. However, DC has denied
>> coverage for many other folks who have gotten stuck with big bills to fix
>> this issue. The problem seems to stem from the composite rotor design DC
>> used on these & other vehicles to save weight & cost. One fix has been to
>> throw the factory composite rotors away and replace them with NAPA or
>> other
>> aftermarket full cast rotors. Not sure how the lawsuit will handle this.





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