WJ brake rotors - ongoing yearly replacement problem
 

I have the ongoing problem with Jeep Grand Cherokee 2001 brake rotors -
I was reading this page - http://www.wjjeeps.com/brakes.htm
about the TSB - and checked my service invoices -

TSB applied - 1/07/03 - 19k miles (19k usage)

rotors resurfaced 4/27/04 - 34k miles (15k usage)

shuddering again - 6/01/05 - 48k miles (14k usage)

I've never had a car that needs rotors replaced EVERY YEAR,
even after the TSB was done and the new calipers installed ??

Re: WJ brake rotors - ongoing yearly replacement problem
 

Phil Schuman wrote:
> I have the ongoing problem with Jeep Grand Cherokee 2001 brake rotors -
> I was reading this page - http://www.wjjeeps.com/brakes.htm
> about the TSB - and checked my service invoices -
>
> TSB applied - 1/07/03 - 19k miles (19k usage)
>
> rotors resurfaced 4/27/04 - 34k miles (15k usage)
>
> shuddering again - 6/01/05 - 48k miles (14k usage)
>
> I've never had a car that needs rotors replaced EVERY YEAR,
> even after the TSB was done and the new calipers installed ??

Exactly. Thou resurfacing was waste of money, unless the rotor and/or
wheels were unevenly and out-of-spec torqued.

I have now also TSB ('01 WJ) rotors replaced, TSB ones lasted roughly
20K miles. Replacement rotors are Stillen. Service made a mistake: TSB
ones were grinded before they noticed the new ones. At least my TSB
rotors had cracks in both rotor's inner blade, cracks were in inner and
outer edge. Stillen rotors have now some 5K miles on them, no studder yet.

Marko

Re: WJ brake rotors - ongoing yearly replacement problem
 

Phil Schuman wrote:
> I have the ongoing problem with Jeep Grand Cherokee 2001 brake rotors -
> I was reading this page - http://www.wjjeeps.com/brakes.htm
> about the TSB - and checked my service invoices -
>
> TSB applied - 1/07/03 - 19k miles (19k usage)
>
> rotors resurfaced 4/27/04 - 34k miles (15k usage)
>
> shuddering again - 6/01/05 - 48k miles (14k usage)
>
> I've never had a car that needs rotors replaced EVERY YEAR,
> even after the TSB was done and the new calipers installed ??

Exactly. Thou resurfacing was waste of money, unless the rotor and/or
wheels were unevenly and out-of-spec torqued.

I have now also TSB ('01 WJ) rotors replaced, TSB ones lasted roughly
20K miles. Replacement rotors are Stillen. Service made a mistake: TSB
ones were grinded before they noticed the new ones. At least my TSB
rotors had cracks in both rotor's inner blade, cracks were in inner and
outer edge. Stillen rotors have now some 5K miles on them, no studder yet.

Marko

Re: WJ brake rotors - ongoing yearly replacement problem
 

Phil Schuman wrote:
> I have the ongoing problem with Jeep Grand Cherokee 2001 brake rotors -
> I was reading this page - http://www.wjjeeps.com/brakes.htm
> about the TSB - and checked my service invoices -
>
> TSB applied - 1/07/03 - 19k miles (19k usage)
>
> rotors resurfaced 4/27/04 - 34k miles (15k usage)
>
> shuddering again - 6/01/05 - 48k miles (14k usage)
>
> I've never had a car that needs rotors replaced EVERY YEAR,
> even after the TSB was done and the new calipers installed ??

Exactly. Thou resurfacing was waste of money, unless the rotor and/or
wheels were unevenly and out-of-spec torqued.

I have now also TSB ('01 WJ) rotors replaced, TSB ones lasted roughly
20K miles. Replacement rotors are Stillen. Service made a mistake: TSB
ones were grinded before they noticed the new ones. At least my TSB
rotors had cracks in both rotor's inner blade, cracks were in inner and
outer edge. Stillen rotors have now some 5K miles on them, no studder yet.

Marko

Re: WJ brake rotors - ongoing yearly replacement problem
 

Phil Schuman wrote:
> I have the ongoing problem with Jeep Grand Cherokee 2001 brake rotors -
> I was reading this page - http://www.wjjeeps.com/brakes.htm
> about the TSB - and checked my service invoices -
>
> TSB applied - 1/07/03 - 19k miles (19k usage)
>
> rotors resurfaced 4/27/04 - 34k miles (15k usage)
>
> shuddering again - 6/01/05 - 48k miles (14k usage)
>
> I've never had a car that needs rotors replaced EVERY YEAR,
> even after the TSB was done and the new calipers installed ??

Exactly. Thou resurfacing was waste of money, unless the rotor and/or
wheels were unevenly and out-of-spec torqued.

I have now also TSB ('01 WJ) rotors replaced, TSB ones lasted roughly
20K miles. Replacement rotors are Stillen. Service made a mistake: TSB
ones were grinded before they noticed the new ones. At least my TSB
rotors had cracks in both rotor's inner blade, cracks were in inner and
outer edge. Stillen rotors have now some 5K miles on them, no studder yet.

Marko

Re: WJ brake rotors - ongoing yearly replacement problem
 

what i have found is the way tires are rotated after the rotors have been
replaced to help minimize rotor issues they should be torque with a torque
wench and not torque. sticks

Phil Schuman wrote:

> I have the ongoing problem with Jeep Grand Cherokee 2001 brake rotors -
> I was reading this page - http://www.wjjeeps.com/brakes.htm
> about the TSB - and checked my service invoices -
>
> TSB applied - 1/07/03 - 19k miles (19k usage)
>
> rotors resurfaced 4/27/04 - 34k miles (15k usage)
>
> shuddering again - 6/01/05 - 48k miles (14k usage)
>
> I've never had a car that needs rotors replaced EVERY YEAR,
> even after the TSB was done and the new calipers installed ??

Re: WJ brake rotors - ongoing yearly replacement problem
 

what i have found is the way tires are rotated after the rotors have been
replaced to help minimize rotor issues they should be torque with a torque
wench and not torque. sticks

Phil Schuman wrote:

> I have the ongoing problem with Jeep Grand Cherokee 2001 brake rotors -
> I was reading this page - http://www.wjjeeps.com/brakes.htm
> about the TSB - and checked my service invoices -
>
> TSB applied - 1/07/03 - 19k miles (19k usage)
>
> rotors resurfaced 4/27/04 - 34k miles (15k usage)
>
> shuddering again - 6/01/05 - 48k miles (14k usage)
>
> I've never had a car that needs rotors replaced EVERY YEAR,
> even after the TSB was done and the new calipers installed ??

Re: WJ brake rotors - ongoing yearly replacement problem
 

what i have found is the way tires are rotated after the rotors have been
replaced to help minimize rotor issues they should be torque with a torque
wench and not torque. sticks

Phil Schuman wrote:

> I have the ongoing problem with Jeep Grand Cherokee 2001 brake rotors -
> I was reading this page - http://www.wjjeeps.com/brakes.htm
> about the TSB - and checked my service invoices -
>
> TSB applied - 1/07/03 - 19k miles (19k usage)
>
> rotors resurfaced 4/27/04 - 34k miles (15k usage)
>
> shuddering again - 6/01/05 - 48k miles (14k usage)
>
> I've never had a car that needs rotors replaced EVERY YEAR,
> even after the TSB was done and the new calipers installed ??

Re: WJ brake rotors - ongoing yearly replacement problem
 

what i have found is the way tires are rotated after the rotors have been
replaced to help minimize rotor issues they should be torque with a torque
wench and not torque. sticks

Phil Schuman wrote:

> I have the ongoing problem with Jeep Grand Cherokee 2001 brake rotors -
> I was reading this page - http://www.wjjeeps.com/brakes.htm
> about the TSB - and checked my service invoices -
>
> TSB applied - 1/07/03 - 19k miles (19k usage)
>
> rotors resurfaced 4/27/04 - 34k miles (15k usage)
>
> shuddering again - 6/01/05 - 48k miles (14k usage)
>
> I've never had a car that needs rotors replaced EVERY YEAR,
> even after the TSB was done and the new calipers installed ??

Re: WJ brake rotors - ongoing yearly replacement problem
 

"tim bur" wrote...
>what i have found is the way tires are rotated after
>the rotors have been replaced to help minimize rotor
>issues they should be torque with a torque wench and
>not torque. sticks

html.. ick. :(

Agreed, that and factory rotors are simply the cheapest
lightest things they can put on there.

Here is another bit of advice on turning rotors.
You simply can not turn the warp out of a rotor, period.

Turning is only for when the rotor has suffered
a gouge large enough to cause problems or to remove
the edge some pads leave on the face before setting a
new pair on. Sure, a warped rotor can be turned flat
again, but the next time it gets hot the warp will come
right back.

I'm amazed how many times folks at work have not listened
and had Midas turn the brakes. Every time the warp comes
back and every time Midas refuses to stand behind the claim.
It's nothing more than a money maker for them.
</soapbox>

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DougW