Re: wiring a XJ hitch
 

Unless the OP wants to add another pair of lamps to his trailer, then he
can simply use a 6-pin trailer connector and wire it direct. One pair
for turn, one pair for stop and tail, just like his XJ.

I recently finished up my 1948 utility trailer and _wanted_ separate
stop and turn signals on it. I used an after-market in-line connector
on my `96 XJ to get into the wiring harness and then broke into that
upstream of the converter box to get the seperate terminals. I left the
4 pin connector in place in case I ever tow something that uses that
connector.



philthy wrote:
> yes
>
> AWantz wrote:
>
>
>>I've got a 88 XJ and I'm wiring a hitch. Do I Need a converter since
>>the tail lights and brake lights are operated with 2 different wires??
>
>


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Re: wiring a XJ hitch
 

Unless the OP wants to add another pair of lamps to his trailer, then he
can simply use a 6-pin trailer connector and wire it direct. One pair
for turn, one pair for stop and tail, just like his XJ.

I recently finished up my 1948 utility trailer and _wanted_ separate
stop and turn signals on it. I used an after-market in-line connector
on my `96 XJ to get into the wiring harness and then broke into that
upstream of the converter box to get the seperate terminals. I left the
4 pin connector in place in case I ever tow something that uses that
connector.



philthy wrote:
> yes
>
> AWantz wrote:
>
>
>>I've got a 88 XJ and I'm wiring a hitch. Do I Need a converter since
>>the tail lights and brake lights are operated with 2 different wires??
>
>


--

Re: wiring a XJ hitch
 

Unless the OP wants to add another pair of lamps to his trailer, then he
can simply use a 6-pin trailer connector and wire it direct. One pair
for turn, one pair for stop and tail, just like his XJ.

I recently finished up my 1948 utility trailer and _wanted_ separate
stop and turn signals on it. I used an after-market in-line connector
on my `96 XJ to get into the wiring harness and then broke into that
upstream of the converter box to get the seperate terminals. I left the
4 pin connector in place in case I ever tow something that uses that
connector.



philthy wrote:
> yes
>
> AWantz wrote:
>
>
>>I've got a 88 XJ and I'm wiring a hitch. Do I Need a converter since
>>the tail lights and brake lights are operated with 2 different wires??
>
>


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Re: wiring a XJ hitch
 

Do they sell one for his `88? I ask because I never could find one for
my `89 XJ. I didn't look but I suspect that there was no easy-to-get-to
connector to plug into.



Jeff Strickland wrote:
> WalMart sells the harness the guy needs complete with color codes for a
> fraction of the prices listed in your link.
>
> And "they" include the needed converter in the connection kit, so it is
> difficult to determine if a converter is needed or not unless one
> assumes the over priced $45.00 kit includes a converter while the over
> priced $25.00 kit does not. The ONLY reason to buy this product is to
> avoid splicing wires. The company provides a simple connector that plugs
> into the existing wire harness.
>
> <quote>
> Taillight converter included with kits when needed.
> </quote>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:44D900E4.21ACAA76@cox.net...
>
>> Oh Jeffy,
>> Maybe if you thought a while you would agree it's nice to have the
>> color codes, and the fact that they don't sell a converter for his
>> truck, should answer the question whether one was needed. Understand?
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> Jeff Strickland wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> OUCH! Those are expensive.
>>>
>>> I can get a flat 4-pin for a Wrangler/CJ for about $5.00, AND that
>>> includes
>>> both sides of the connector and several feet of wire.
>>>
>>> PS
>>> That link does not clear up the OP's question because several of the
>>> high
>>> priced units they list have the converter built in. All that link
>>> shows is
>>> that one can get a trailer harness that is easy to connect.
>
>

Re: wiring a XJ hitch
 

Do they sell one for his `88? I ask because I never could find one for
my `89 XJ. I didn't look but I suspect that there was no easy-to-get-to
connector to plug into.



Jeff Strickland wrote:
> WalMart sells the harness the guy needs complete with color codes for a
> fraction of the prices listed in your link.
>
> And "they" include the needed converter in the connection kit, so it is
> difficult to determine if a converter is needed or not unless one
> assumes the over priced $45.00 kit includes a converter while the over
> priced $25.00 kit does not. The ONLY reason to buy this product is to
> avoid splicing wires. The company provides a simple connector that plugs
> into the existing wire harness.
>
> <quote>
> Taillight converter included with kits when needed.
> </quote>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:44D900E4.21ACAA76@cox.net...
>
>> Oh Jeffy,
>> Maybe if you thought a while you would agree it's nice to have the
>> color codes, and the fact that they don't sell a converter for his
>> truck, should answer the question whether one was needed. Understand?
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> Jeff Strickland wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> OUCH! Those are expensive.
>>>
>>> I can get a flat 4-pin for a Wrangler/CJ for about $5.00, AND that
>>> includes
>>> both sides of the connector and several feet of wire.
>>>
>>> PS
>>> That link does not clear up the OP's question because several of the
>>> high
>>> priced units they list have the converter built in. All that link
>>> shows is
>>> that one can get a trailer harness that is easy to connect.
>
>

Re: wiring a XJ hitch
 

Do they sell one for his `88? I ask because I never could find one for
my `89 XJ. I didn't look but I suspect that there was no easy-to-get-to
connector to plug into.



Jeff Strickland wrote:
> WalMart sells the harness the guy needs complete with color codes for a
> fraction of the prices listed in your link.
>
> And "they" include the needed converter in the connection kit, so it is
> difficult to determine if a converter is needed or not unless one
> assumes the over priced $45.00 kit includes a converter while the over
> priced $25.00 kit does not. The ONLY reason to buy this product is to
> avoid splicing wires. The company provides a simple connector that plugs
> into the existing wire harness.
>
> <quote>
> Taillight converter included with kits when needed.
> </quote>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:44D900E4.21ACAA76@cox.net...
>
>> Oh Jeffy,
>> Maybe if you thought a while you would agree it's nice to have the
>> color codes, and the fact that they don't sell a converter for his
>> truck, should answer the question whether one was needed. Understand?
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> Jeff Strickland wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> OUCH! Those are expensive.
>>>
>>> I can get a flat 4-pin for a Wrangler/CJ for about $5.00, AND that
>>> includes
>>> both sides of the connector and several feet of wire.
>>>
>>> PS
>>> That link does not clear up the OP's question because several of the
>>> high
>>> priced units they list have the converter built in. All that link
>>> shows is
>>> that one can get a trailer harness that is easy to connect.
>
>

Re: wiring a XJ hitch
 

Do they sell one for his `88? I ask because I never could find one for
my `89 XJ. I didn't look but I suspect that there was no easy-to-get-to
connector to plug into.



Jeff Strickland wrote:
> WalMart sells the harness the guy needs complete with color codes for a
> fraction of the prices listed in your link.
>
> And "they" include the needed converter in the connection kit, so it is
> difficult to determine if a converter is needed or not unless one
> assumes the over priced $45.00 kit includes a converter while the over
> priced $25.00 kit does not. The ONLY reason to buy this product is to
> avoid splicing wires. The company provides a simple connector that plugs
> into the existing wire harness.
>
> <quote>
> Taillight converter included with kits when needed.
> </quote>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:44D900E4.21ACAA76@cox.net...
>
>> Oh Jeffy,
>> Maybe if you thought a while you would agree it's nice to have the
>> color codes, and the fact that they don't sell a converter for his
>> truck, should answer the question whether one was needed. Understand?
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> Jeff Strickland wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> OUCH! Those are expensive.
>>>
>>> I can get a flat 4-pin for a Wrangler/CJ for about $5.00, AND that
>>> includes
>>> both sides of the connector and several feet of wire.
>>>
>>> PS
>>> That link does not clear up the OP's question because several of the
>>> high
>>> priced units they list have the converter built in. All that link
>>> shows is
>>> that one can get a trailer harness that is easy to connect.
>
>

Re: wiring a XJ hitch
 

I just read that again and have no clue what I was babbling on about,
It sure didn't come out like it was meant, please disregard....

Mike

Mike Romain wrote:
>
> The Cherokee has separate bulbs for the brake and turn signals unlike
> the Wrangler or CJ that use one bulb element and wire for both.
>
> If his trailer uses a dual element bulb like an 1157 bulb instead of two
> 1034's I could see the need for a diode in there.... If the trailer has
> fixtures like the Cherokee then straight wiring would be ok.
>
> I don't know if mine have a diode inside the plug or not, but mine are
> just crimped onto the existing wires. After thinking on it, I would
> suspect mine does have diodes.
>
> Yup, there are things to be said for a 'kit', that's for sure.
>
> Mike
>
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
> >
> > Okay. One more time.
> >
> > You have turn and brakes for the left. This is one wire.
> >
> > You have turn and brakes for the right. This is another wire.
> >
> > You have running lights for both left and right. This is the third wire.
> >
> > You have ground for the entire system. This is the fourth wire. It's also a
> > white wire on the flat 4-pin.
> >
> > The flat 4-pin has all of the colors you need to know about, one of which is
> > white. I do not recall where the brown, red, and yellow wires go, but the
> > directions are very clear.
> >
> > You do not need a converter, but apparently you couls use one of the
> > overpriced plug-n-pray kits from Bill's first post.
> >
> > "AWantz" <AjwVpr@aol.com> wrote in message
> > news:1155221826.064155.157110@i42g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> > > OK the problem is there is a ground wire, left turn wire, auxiliary
> > > power wire, electric brake wire, reverse wire, tail light wire, and
> > > right turn wire on the on the back of a 7-pin. Well I have the turn
> > > signal wires, the reverse wire, and the ground but I have 2 wires for
> > > the tail lights the wire for the brake lights and a wire for tail
> > > lights which power 2 different bulbs. Well I didn't realize this until
> > > I was down to 2 wire that I need and only 1 wire on the 7-pin. Which
> > > means I either have brake lights and no tail lights or tail lights and
> > > no brake lights I've tried it. If you connect them both to the wire
> > > your headlights come on when you hit the brakes its kinda funny.
> > >

Re: wiring a XJ hitch
 

I just read that again and have no clue what I was babbling on about,
It sure didn't come out like it was meant, please disregard....

Mike

Mike Romain wrote:
>
> The Cherokee has separate bulbs for the brake and turn signals unlike
> the Wrangler or CJ that use one bulb element and wire for both.
>
> If his trailer uses a dual element bulb like an 1157 bulb instead of two
> 1034's I could see the need for a diode in there.... If the trailer has
> fixtures like the Cherokee then straight wiring would be ok.
>
> I don't know if mine have a diode inside the plug or not, but mine are
> just crimped onto the existing wires. After thinking on it, I would
> suspect mine does have diodes.
>
> Yup, there are things to be said for a 'kit', that's for sure.
>
> Mike
>
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
> >
> > Okay. One more time.
> >
> > You have turn and brakes for the left. This is one wire.
> >
> > You have turn and brakes for the right. This is another wire.
> >
> > You have running lights for both left and right. This is the third wire.
> >
> > You have ground for the entire system. This is the fourth wire. It's also a
> > white wire on the flat 4-pin.
> >
> > The flat 4-pin has all of the colors you need to know about, one of which is
> > white. I do not recall where the brown, red, and yellow wires go, but the
> > directions are very clear.
> >
> > You do not need a converter, but apparently you couls use one of the
> > overpriced plug-n-pray kits from Bill's first post.
> >
> > "AWantz" <AjwVpr@aol.com> wrote in message
> > news:1155221826.064155.157110@i42g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> > > OK the problem is there is a ground wire, left turn wire, auxiliary
> > > power wire, electric brake wire, reverse wire, tail light wire, and
> > > right turn wire on the on the back of a 7-pin. Well I have the turn
> > > signal wires, the reverse wire, and the ground but I have 2 wires for
> > > the tail lights the wire for the brake lights and a wire for tail
> > > lights which power 2 different bulbs. Well I didn't realize this until
> > > I was down to 2 wire that I need and only 1 wire on the 7-pin. Which
> > > means I either have brake lights and no tail lights or tail lights and
> > > no brake lights I've tried it. If you connect them both to the wire
> > > your headlights come on when you hit the brakes its kinda funny.
> > >

Re: wiring a XJ hitch
 

I just read that again and have no clue what I was babbling on about,
It sure didn't come out like it was meant, please disregard....

Mike

Mike Romain wrote:
>
> The Cherokee has separate bulbs for the brake and turn signals unlike
> the Wrangler or CJ that use one bulb element and wire for both.
>
> If his trailer uses a dual element bulb like an 1157 bulb instead of two
> 1034's I could see the need for a diode in there.... If the trailer has
> fixtures like the Cherokee then straight wiring would be ok.
>
> I don't know if mine have a diode inside the plug or not, but mine are
> just crimped onto the existing wires. After thinking on it, I would
> suspect mine does have diodes.
>
> Yup, there are things to be said for a 'kit', that's for sure.
>
> Mike
>
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
> >
> > Okay. One more time.
> >
> > You have turn and brakes for the left. This is one wire.
> >
> > You have turn and brakes for the right. This is another wire.
> >
> > You have running lights for both left and right. This is the third wire.
> >
> > You have ground for the entire system. This is the fourth wire. It's also a
> > white wire on the flat 4-pin.
> >
> > The flat 4-pin has all of the colors you need to know about, one of which is
> > white. I do not recall where the brown, red, and yellow wires go, but the
> > directions are very clear.
> >
> > You do not need a converter, but apparently you couls use one of the
> > overpriced plug-n-pray kits from Bill's first post.
> >
> > "AWantz" <AjwVpr@aol.com> wrote in message
> > news:1155221826.064155.157110@i42g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> > > OK the problem is there is a ground wire, left turn wire, auxiliary
> > > power wire, electric brake wire, reverse wire, tail light wire, and
> > > right turn wire on the on the back of a 7-pin. Well I have the turn
> > > signal wires, the reverse wire, and the ground but I have 2 wires for
> > > the tail lights the wire for the brake lights and a wire for tail
> > > lights which power 2 different bulbs. Well I didn't realize this until
> > > I was down to 2 wire that I need and only 1 wire on the 7-pin. Which
> > > means I either have brake lights and no tail lights or tail lights and
> > > no brake lights I've tried it. If you connect them both to the wire
> > > your headlights come on when you hit the brakes its kinda funny.
> > >