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habbi 12-08-2003 09:10 AM

Winter tires, studs...
 
Has anyone ever tried the new tires with steel wire embedded into the tread.
It runs perpendicular to the steel belts and as the tire wears it keep
protruding through. Also there are some new tires with some sort of diamond
grit substance embedded into the tread. How do either of these compare to
studed winter tires .


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John Davies 12-08-2003 11:47 AM

Re: Winter tires, studs...
 
On Mon, 08 Dec 2003 14:10:53 GMT, "habbi" <habbi@islandtelecom.com>
wrote:

>Has anyone ever tried the new tires with steel wire embedded into the tread.
>It runs perpendicular to the steel belts and as the tire wears it keep
>protruding through. Also there are some new tires with some sort of diamond
>grit substance embedded into the tread. How do either of these compare to
>studed winter tires .


I have a new set of Yokohama Geolander I/T+ tires that are phenominal.
They aren't quite as good as studs on glare ice, but they stick like
glue in all other situations during severe winter driving. I strongly
recommend them. They sure beat my siped MT/Rs.

http://www.yokohamatire.com/TireIntro.asp?TireID=13

http://www.yokohamatire.com/pdf/geoit.pdf

John Davies
Spokane WA USA


John Davies 12-08-2003 11:47 AM

Re: Winter tires, studs...
 
On Mon, 08 Dec 2003 14:10:53 GMT, "habbi" <habbi@islandtelecom.com>
wrote:

>Has anyone ever tried the new tires with steel wire embedded into the tread.
>It runs perpendicular to the steel belts and as the tire wears it keep
>protruding through. Also there are some new tires with some sort of diamond
>grit substance embedded into the tread. How do either of these compare to
>studed winter tires .


I have a new set of Yokohama Geolander I/T+ tires that are phenominal.
They aren't quite as good as studs on glare ice, but they stick like
glue in all other situations during severe winter driving. I strongly
recommend them. They sure beat my siped MT/Rs.

http://www.yokohamatire.com/TireIntro.asp?TireID=13

http://www.yokohamatire.com/pdf/geoit.pdf

John Davies
Spokane WA USA


John Davies 12-08-2003 11:47 AM

Re: Winter tires, studs...
 
On Mon, 08 Dec 2003 14:10:53 GMT, "habbi" <habbi@islandtelecom.com>
wrote:

>Has anyone ever tried the new tires with steel wire embedded into the tread.
>It runs perpendicular to the steel belts and as the tire wears it keep
>protruding through. Also there are some new tires with some sort of diamond
>grit substance embedded into the tread. How do either of these compare to
>studed winter tires .


I have a new set of Yokohama Geolander I/T+ tires that are phenominal.
They aren't quite as good as studs on glare ice, but they stick like
glue in all other situations during severe winter driving. I strongly
recommend them. They sure beat my siped MT/Rs.

http://www.yokohamatire.com/TireIntro.asp?TireID=13

http://www.yokohamatire.com/pdf/geoit.pdf

John Davies
Spokane WA USA


Lon Stowell 12-08-2003 12:20 PM

Re: Winter tires, studs...
 
Roughly 12/8/03 06:10, habbi's monkeys randomly typed:

> Has anyone ever tried the new tires with steel wire embedded into the tread.
> It runs perpendicular to the steel belts and as the tire wears it keep
> protruding through. Also there are some new tires with some sort of diamond
> grit substance embedded into the tread. How do either of these compare to
> studed winter tires .


The diamond like substance is silica, or purified common sand.
The advantage of both of these is that they can be run at higher
speed than a studded, with a bit of superhardcore traction loss
at very low speed compared to studs--which is why chains will
fit over them.


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Lon Stowell 12-08-2003 12:20 PM

Re: Winter tires, studs...
 
Roughly 12/8/03 06:10, habbi's monkeys randomly typed:

> Has anyone ever tried the new tires with steel wire embedded into the tread.
> It runs perpendicular to the steel belts and as the tire wears it keep
> protruding through. Also there are some new tires with some sort of diamond
> grit substance embedded into the tread. How do either of these compare to
> studed winter tires .


The diamond like substance is silica, or purified common sand.
The advantage of both of these is that they can be run at higher
speed than a studded, with a bit of superhardcore traction loss
at very low speed compared to studs--which is why chains will
fit over them.


--
Still a Raiders fan, but no longer sure why.


Lon Stowell 12-08-2003 12:20 PM

Re: Winter tires, studs...
 
Roughly 12/8/03 06:10, habbi's monkeys randomly typed:

> Has anyone ever tried the new tires with steel wire embedded into the tread.
> It runs perpendicular to the steel belts and as the tire wears it keep
> protruding through. Also there are some new tires with some sort of diamond
> grit substance embedded into the tread. How do either of these compare to
> studed winter tires .


The diamond like substance is silica, or purified common sand.
The advantage of both of these is that they can be run at higher
speed than a studded, with a bit of superhardcore traction loss
at very low speed compared to studs--which is why chains will
fit over them.


--
Still a Raiders fan, but no longer sure why.


bowgus 12-08-2003 07:43 PM

Re: Winter tires, studs...
 
Hmmm ... seems to be 70R only ... no 225/75R15 ???

"John Davies" <johnedavies@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:4ja9tv89q6tb30qnlanj2tuds3qo73de8t@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 08 Dec 2003 14:10:53 GMT, "habbi" <habbi@islandtelecom.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Has anyone ever tried the new tires with steel wire embedded into the

tread.
> >It runs perpendicular to the steel belts and as the tire wears it keep
> >protruding through. Also there are some new tires with some sort of

diamond
> >grit substance embedded into the tread. How do either of these compare to
> >studed winter tires .

>
> I have a new set of Yokohama Geolander I/T+ tires that are phenominal.
> They aren't quite as good as studs on glare ice, but they stick like
> glue in all other situations during severe winter driving. I strongly
> recommend them. They sure beat my siped MT/Rs.
>
> http://www.yokohamatire.com/TireIntro.asp?TireID=13
>
> http://www.yokohamatire.com/pdf/geoit.pdf
>
> John Davies
> Spokane WA USA
>




bowgus 12-08-2003 07:43 PM

Re: Winter tires, studs...
 
Hmmm ... seems to be 70R only ... no 225/75R15 ???

"John Davies" <johnedavies@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:4ja9tv89q6tb30qnlanj2tuds3qo73de8t@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 08 Dec 2003 14:10:53 GMT, "habbi" <habbi@islandtelecom.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Has anyone ever tried the new tires with steel wire embedded into the

tread.
> >It runs perpendicular to the steel belts and as the tire wears it keep
> >protruding through. Also there are some new tires with some sort of

diamond
> >grit substance embedded into the tread. How do either of these compare to
> >studed winter tires .

>
> I have a new set of Yokohama Geolander I/T+ tires that are phenominal.
> They aren't quite as good as studs on glare ice, but they stick like
> glue in all other situations during severe winter driving. I strongly
> recommend them. They sure beat my siped MT/Rs.
>
> http://www.yokohamatire.com/TireIntro.asp?TireID=13
>
> http://www.yokohamatire.com/pdf/geoit.pdf
>
> John Davies
> Spokane WA USA
>




bowgus 12-08-2003 07:43 PM

Re: Winter tires, studs...
 
Hmmm ... seems to be 70R only ... no 225/75R15 ???

"John Davies" <johnedavies@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:4ja9tv89q6tb30qnlanj2tuds3qo73de8t@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 08 Dec 2003 14:10:53 GMT, "habbi" <habbi@islandtelecom.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Has anyone ever tried the new tires with steel wire embedded into the

tread.
> >It runs perpendicular to the steel belts and as the tire wears it keep
> >protruding through. Also there are some new tires with some sort of

diamond
> >grit substance embedded into the tread. How do either of these compare to
> >studed winter tires .

>
> I have a new set of Yokohama Geolander I/T+ tires that are phenominal.
> They aren't quite as good as studs on glare ice, but they stick like
> glue in all other situations during severe winter driving. I strongly
> recommend them. They sure beat my siped MT/Rs.
>
> http://www.yokohamatire.com/TireIntro.asp?TireID=13
>
> http://www.yokohamatire.com/pdf/geoit.pdf
>
> John Davies
> Spokane WA USA
>




John Davies 12-08-2003 08:04 PM

Re: Winter tires, studs...
 
On Tue, 09 Dec 2003 00:43:23 GMT, "bowgus" <Bowgus@rogers.com> wrote:

>Hmmm ... seems to be 70R only ... no 225/75R15 ???


>> http://www.yokohamatire.com/pdf/geoit.pdf


The pdf above shows more sizes than the main page does, but no,
apparently no 225/75R15 size offered. The 215/80R15 at 28.8 inches
should be about the same OD. Narrower is better in snow anyway...

John Davies
Spokane WA USA

John Davies 12-08-2003 08:04 PM

Re: Winter tires, studs...
 
On Tue, 09 Dec 2003 00:43:23 GMT, "bowgus" <Bowgus@rogers.com> wrote:

>Hmmm ... seems to be 70R only ... no 225/75R15 ???


>> http://www.yokohamatire.com/pdf/geoit.pdf


The pdf above shows more sizes than the main page does, but no,
apparently no 225/75R15 size offered. The 215/80R15 at 28.8 inches
should be about the same OD. Narrower is better in snow anyway...

John Davies
Spokane WA USA

John Davies 12-08-2003 08:04 PM

Re: Winter tires, studs...
 
On Tue, 09 Dec 2003 00:43:23 GMT, "bowgus" <Bowgus@rogers.com> wrote:

>Hmmm ... seems to be 70R only ... no 225/75R15 ???


>> http://www.yokohamatire.com/pdf/geoit.pdf


The pdf above shows more sizes than the main page does, but no,
apparently no 225/75R15 size offered. The 215/80R15 at 28.8 inches
should be about the same OD. Narrower is better in snow anyway...

John Davies
Spokane WA USA


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