Snowmobiles, ATVs, and motorcycles are far more susceptible than cars to
bad things happening to the small jets, floats etc. from bad gas.

How in the world did a piston melt???

FrankW wrote:

> Bad advice Mike!
> I guess you were lucky.
> Gas doesn't last as long as the old days
> If the gas is going to sit for more than a month
> you MUST add fuel stabilizer.
>
> Ask any Marine mechanic or even read a marine
> owners manual on winter storage issues.
>
> Some other good advice when storing for winter
> is to change the oil in the diff's tranny etc.
> This ensures there is no moisture to damage said components.
>
>
> I store my Argo 6X6 every winter and I store my
> snowmobile every summer. Been there........
> A friend stored his snowmobile one summer
> without stabilizer and varnish built up in
> the carb....plugged a jet.....melted a piston
> Fuel stabilizer is cheap insurance. :-)
> Cheers
> Frank
>
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
>> I have never done that and have never had any 'old gas' issues. One
>> winter isn't long. My CJ7 was parked for a year and a half while I did
>> the frame up and the gas was still fine.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> FrankW wrote:
>>
>>> If your going to fill the tank
>>> You better add fuel stabilizer to the gas.
>>>
>>> twaldron wrote:
>>>
>>>> A partially full gas tank will produce condensation from moisture in
>>>> the
>>>> air, which in turn can freeze.
>>>>
>>>> griffin wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Gas in the tank? Why's that? I was thinking to empty it but then again
>>>>> I had
>>>>> no idea one way or the other ...
>>>>>
>>>>> griffin
>>>>> '85 CJ7
>>>>>
>>>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>>>> news:41295D14.41C737A9@sympatico.ca...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Good antifreeze, full tank of gas with some gas line deicer in 'just
>>>>>> because', proper antifreeze through the windshield washer system
>>>>>> and the
>>>>>> battery disconnected comes to mind.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>>>>
>>>>>> griffin wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think I'm going to park the CJ7 for the winter but I'm
>>>>>>> wondering what
>>>>>>> preparations I can make to help prevent any problems next spring. It
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> gets
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> very cold here (-35C or -30F approx) and it will be parked
>>>>>>> outside on a
>>>>>>> gravel driveway. It's pretty much stock with some growing amounts of
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> body
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> rust (some all the way through).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> griffin
>>>>>>> '85 CJ7
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw

03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________

 

Ok, no argument from me on that.

I only had gas in the tank, no lines or engine was attached.

Where do you get gas stabilizer? I have never seen or really heard of
it besides here.

I always ran my 2 strokes out of fuel in the system before winter
storage so I guess I never had the varnish issue, but do remember it
now.

Mike

FrankW wrote:
>
> Bad advice Mike!
> I guess you were lucky.
> Gas doesn't last as long as the old days
> If the gas is going to sit for more than a month
> you MUST add fuel stabilizer.
>
> Ask any Marine mechanic or even read a marine
> owners manual on winter storage issues.
>
> Some other good advice when storing for winter
> is to change the oil in the diff's tranny etc.
> This ensures there is no moisture to damage said components.
>
> I store my Argo 6X6 every winter and I store my
> snowmobile every summer. Been there........
> A friend stored his snowmobile one summer
> without stabilizer and varnish built up in
> the carb....plugged a jet.....melted a piston
> Fuel stabilizer is cheap insurance. :-)
> Cheers
> Frank
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
> > I have never done that and have never had any 'old gas' issues. One
> > winter isn't long. My CJ7 was parked for a year and a half while I did
> > the frame up and the gas was still fine.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > FrankW wrote:
> >
> >>If your going to fill the tank
> >>You better add fuel stabilizer to the gas.
> >>
> >>twaldron wrote:
> >>
> >>>A partially full gas tank will produce condensation from moisture in the
> >>>air, which in turn can freeze.
> >>>
> >>>griffin wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Gas in the tank? Why's that? I was thinking to empty it but then again
> >>>>I had
> >>>>no idea one way or the other ...
> >>>>
> >>>>griffin
> >>>>'85 CJ7
> >>>>
> >>>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >>>>news:41295D14.41C737A9@sympatico.ca...
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Good antifreeze, full tank of gas with some gas line deicer in 'just
> >>>>>because', proper antifreeze through the windshield washer system and the
> >>>>>battery disconnected comes to mind.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Mike
> >>>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>>>>
> >>>>>griffin wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>I think I'm going to park the CJ7 for the winter but I'm wondering what
> >>>>>>preparations I can make to help prevent any problems next spring. It
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>gets
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>very cold here (-35C or -30F approx) and it will be parked outside on a
> >>>>>>gravel driveway. It's pretty much stock with some growing amounts of
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>body
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>rust (some all the way through).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Thanks!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>griffin
> >>>>>>'85 CJ7
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>

 

Ok, no argument from me on that.

I only had gas in the tank, no lines or engine was attached.

Where do you get gas stabilizer? I have never seen or really heard of
it besides here.

I always ran my 2 strokes out of fuel in the system before winter
storage so I guess I never had the varnish issue, but do remember it
now.

Mike

FrankW wrote:
>
> Bad advice Mike!
> I guess you were lucky.
> Gas doesn't last as long as the old days
> If the gas is going to sit for more than a month
> you MUST add fuel stabilizer.
>
> Ask any Marine mechanic or even read a marine
> owners manual on winter storage issues.
>
> Some other good advice when storing for winter
> is to change the oil in the diff's tranny etc.
> This ensures there is no moisture to damage said components.
>
> I store my Argo 6X6 every winter and I store my
> snowmobile every summer. Been there........
> A friend stored his snowmobile one summer
> without stabilizer and varnish built up in
> the carb....plugged a jet.....melted a piston
> Fuel stabilizer is cheap insurance. :-)
> Cheers
> Frank
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
> > I have never done that and have never had any 'old gas' issues. One
> > winter isn't long. My CJ7 was parked for a year and a half while I did
> > the frame up and the gas was still fine.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > FrankW wrote:
> >
> >>If your going to fill the tank
> >>You better add fuel stabilizer to the gas.
> >>
> >>twaldron wrote:
> >>
> >>>A partially full gas tank will produce condensation from moisture in the
> >>>air, which in turn can freeze.
> >>>
> >>>griffin wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Gas in the tank? Why's that? I was thinking to empty it but then again
> >>>>I had
> >>>>no idea one way or the other ...
> >>>>
> >>>>griffin
> >>>>'85 CJ7
> >>>>
> >>>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >>>>news:41295D14.41C737A9@sympatico.ca...
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Good antifreeze, full tank of gas with some gas line deicer in 'just
> >>>>>because', proper antifreeze through the windshield washer system and the
> >>>>>battery disconnected comes to mind.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Mike
> >>>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>>>>
> >>>>>griffin wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>I think I'm going to park the CJ7 for the winter but I'm wondering what
> >>>>>>preparations I can make to help prevent any problems next spring. It
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>gets
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>very cold here (-35C or -30F approx) and it will be parked outside on a
> >>>>>>gravel driveway. It's pretty much stock with some growing amounts of
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>body
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>rust (some all the way through).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Thanks!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>griffin
> >>>>>>'85 CJ7
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>

 

Ok, no argument from me on that.

I only had gas in the tank, no lines or engine was attached.

Where do you get gas stabilizer? I have never seen or really heard of
it besides here.

I always ran my 2 strokes out of fuel in the system before winter
storage so I guess I never had the varnish issue, but do remember it
now.

Mike

FrankW wrote:
>
> Bad advice Mike!
> I guess you were lucky.
> Gas doesn't last as long as the old days
> If the gas is going to sit for more than a month
> you MUST add fuel stabilizer.
>
> Ask any Marine mechanic or even read a marine
> owners manual on winter storage issues.
>
> Some other good advice when storing for winter
> is to change the oil in the diff's tranny etc.
> This ensures there is no moisture to damage said components.
>
> I store my Argo 6X6 every winter and I store my
> snowmobile every summer. Been there........
> A friend stored his snowmobile one summer
> without stabilizer and varnish built up in
> the carb....plugged a jet.....melted a piston
> Fuel stabilizer is cheap insurance. :-)
> Cheers
> Frank
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
> > I have never done that and have never had any 'old gas' issues. One
> > winter isn't long. My CJ7 was parked for a year and a half while I did
> > the frame up and the gas was still fine.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > FrankW wrote:
> >
> >>If your going to fill the tank
> >>You better add fuel stabilizer to the gas.
> >>
> >>twaldron wrote:
> >>
> >>>A partially full gas tank will produce condensation from moisture in the
> >>>air, which in turn can freeze.
> >>>
> >>>griffin wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Gas in the tank? Why's that? I was thinking to empty it but then again
> >>>>I had
> >>>>no idea one way or the other ...
> >>>>
> >>>>griffin
> >>>>'85 CJ7
> >>>>
> >>>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >>>>news:41295D14.41C737A9@sympatico.ca...
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Good antifreeze, full tank of gas with some gas line deicer in 'just
> >>>>>because', proper antifreeze through the windshield washer system and the
> >>>>>battery disconnected comes to mind.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Mike
> >>>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>>>>
> >>>>>griffin wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>I think I'm going to park the CJ7 for the winter but I'm wondering what
> >>>>>>preparations I can make to help prevent any problems next spring. It
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>gets
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>very cold here (-35C or -30F approx) and it will be parked outside on a
> >>>>>>gravel driveway. It's pretty much stock with some growing amounts of
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>body
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>rust (some all the way through).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Thanks!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>griffin
> >>>>>>'85 CJ7
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>

 

Ok, no argument from me on that.

I only had gas in the tank, no lines or engine was attached.

Where do you get gas stabilizer? I have never seen or really heard of
it besides here.

I always ran my 2 strokes out of fuel in the system before winter
storage so I guess I never had the varnish issue, but do remember it
now.

Mike

FrankW wrote:
>
> Bad advice Mike!
> I guess you were lucky.
> Gas doesn't last as long as the old days
> If the gas is going to sit for more than a month
> you MUST add fuel stabilizer.
>
> Ask any Marine mechanic or even read a marine
> owners manual on winter storage issues.
>
> Some other good advice when storing for winter
> is to change the oil in the diff's tranny etc.
> This ensures there is no moisture to damage said components.
>
> I store my Argo 6X6 every winter and I store my
> snowmobile every summer. Been there........
> A friend stored his snowmobile one summer
> without stabilizer and varnish built up in
> the carb....plugged a jet.....melted a piston
> Fuel stabilizer is cheap insurance. :-)
> Cheers
> Frank
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
> > I have never done that and have never had any 'old gas' issues. One
> > winter isn't long. My CJ7 was parked for a year and a half while I did
> > the frame up and the gas was still fine.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > FrankW wrote:
> >
> >>If your going to fill the tank
> >>You better add fuel stabilizer to the gas.
> >>
> >>twaldron wrote:
> >>
> >>>A partially full gas tank will produce condensation from moisture in the
> >>>air, which in turn can freeze.
> >>>
> >>>griffin wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Gas in the tank? Why's that? I was thinking to empty it but then again
> >>>>I had
> >>>>no idea one way or the other ...
> >>>>
> >>>>griffin
> >>>>'85 CJ7
> >>>>
> >>>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >>>>news:41295D14.41C737A9@sympatico.ca...
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Good antifreeze, full tank of gas with some gas line deicer in 'just
> >>>>>because', proper antifreeze through the windshield washer system and the
> >>>>>battery disconnected comes to mind.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Mike
> >>>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>>>>
> >>>>>griffin wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>I think I'm going to park the CJ7 for the winter but I'm wondering what
> >>>>>>preparations I can make to help prevent any problems next spring. It
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>gets
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>very cold here (-35C or -30F approx) and it will be parked outside on a
> >>>>>>gravel driveway. It's pretty much stock with some growing amounts of
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>body
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>rust (some all the way through).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Thanks!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>griffin
> >>>>>>'85 CJ7
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>

 

Thinking about it, I got lucky. I had only gas in the tank, no lines or
engine attached.

Mike

twaldron wrote:
>
> While I don't think a couple of months of winter will age the gas
> significantly, a year and a half it too long for gas without Stabil or
> some other additive. Either the reseller had something in it already, or
> your climate is cold enough to keep it fresh all year [ :) ] but more
> likely, you got lucky and just burned up the bad gas without significant
> penalty. I'm sure it must've smelled old if you had stuck your nose in
> the tank's portal. I don't know how long the OP's winter is, but if it's
> more than 3 mos. I'd definitely put Stabil in it. It's cheap.
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
> > I have never done that and have never had any 'old gas' issues. One
> > winter isn't long. My CJ7 was parked for a year and a half while I did
> > the frame up and the gas was still fine.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > FrankW wrote:
> >
> >>If your going to fill the tank
> >>You better add fuel stabilizer to the gas.
> >>
> >>twaldron wrote:
> >>
> >>>A partially full gas tank will produce condensation from moisture in the
> >>>air, which in turn can freeze.
> >>>
> >>>griffin wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Gas in the tank? Why's that? I was thinking to empty it but then again
> >>>>I had
> >>>>no idea one way or the other ...
> >>>>
> >>>>griffin
> >>>>'85 CJ7
> >>>>
> >>>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >>>>news:41295D14.41C737A9@sympatico.ca...
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Good antifreeze, full tank of gas with some gas line deicer in 'just
> >>>>>because', proper antifreeze through the windshield washer system and the
> >>>>>battery disconnected comes to mind.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Mike
> >>>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>>>>
> >>>>>griffin wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>I think I'm going to park the CJ7 for the winter but I'm wondering what
> >>>>>>preparations I can make to help prevent any problems next spring. It
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>gets
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>very cold here (-35C or -30F approx) and it will be parked outside on a
> >>>>>>gravel driveway. It's pretty much stock with some growing amounts of
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>body
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>rust (some all the way through).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Thanks!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>griffin
> >>>>>>'85 CJ7
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________

 

Thinking about it, I got lucky. I had only gas in the tank, no lines or
engine attached.

Mike

twaldron wrote:
>
> While I don't think a couple of months of winter will age the gas
> significantly, a year and a half it too long for gas without Stabil or
> some other additive. Either the reseller had something in it already, or
> your climate is cold enough to keep it fresh all year [ :) ] but more
> likely, you got lucky and just burned up the bad gas without significant
> penalty. I'm sure it must've smelled old if you had stuck your nose in
> the tank's portal. I don't know how long the OP's winter is, but if it's
> more than 3 mos. I'd definitely put Stabil in it. It's cheap.
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
> > I have never done that and have never had any 'old gas' issues. One
> > winter isn't long. My CJ7 was parked for a year and a half while I did
> > the frame up and the gas was still fine.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > FrankW wrote:
> >
> >>If your going to fill the tank
> >>You better add fuel stabilizer to the gas.
> >>
> >>twaldron wrote:
> >>
> >>>A partially full gas tank will produce condensation from moisture in the
> >>>air, which in turn can freeze.
> >>>
> >>>griffin wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Gas in the tank? Why's that? I was thinking to empty it but then again
> >>>>I had
> >>>>no idea one way or the other ...
> >>>>
> >>>>griffin
> >>>>'85 CJ7
> >>>>
> >>>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >>>>news:41295D14.41C737A9@sympatico.ca...
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Good antifreeze, full tank of gas with some gas line deicer in 'just
> >>>>>because', proper antifreeze through the windshield washer system and the
> >>>>>battery disconnected comes to mind.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Mike
> >>>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>>>>
> >>>>>griffin wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>I think I'm going to park the CJ7 for the winter but I'm wondering what
> >>>>>>preparations I can make to help prevent any problems next spring. It
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>gets
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>very cold here (-35C or -30F approx) and it will be parked outside on a
> >>>>>>gravel driveway. It's pretty much stock with some growing amounts of
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>body
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>rust (some all the way through).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Thanks!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>griffin
> >>>>>>'85 CJ7
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________

 

Thinking about it, I got lucky. I had only gas in the tank, no lines or
engine attached.

Mike

twaldron wrote:
>
> While I don't think a couple of months of winter will age the gas
> significantly, a year and a half it too long for gas without Stabil or
> some other additive. Either the reseller had something in it already, or
> your climate is cold enough to keep it fresh all year [ :) ] but more
> likely, you got lucky and just burned up the bad gas without significant
> penalty. I'm sure it must've smelled old if you had stuck your nose in
> the tank's portal. I don't know how long the OP's winter is, but if it's
> more than 3 mos. I'd definitely put Stabil in it. It's cheap.
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
> > I have never done that and have never had any 'old gas' issues. One
> > winter isn't long. My CJ7 was parked for a year and a half while I did
> > the frame up and the gas was still fine.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > FrankW wrote:
> >
> >>If your going to fill the tank
> >>You better add fuel stabilizer to the gas.
> >>
> >>twaldron wrote:
> >>
> >>>A partially full gas tank will produce condensation from moisture in the
> >>>air, which in turn can freeze.
> >>>
> >>>griffin wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Gas in the tank? Why's that? I was thinking to empty it but then again
> >>>>I had
> >>>>no idea one way or the other ...
> >>>>
> >>>>griffin
> >>>>'85 CJ7
> >>>>
> >>>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >>>>news:41295D14.41C737A9@sympatico.ca...
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Good antifreeze, full tank of gas with some gas line deicer in 'just
> >>>>>because', proper antifreeze through the windshield washer system and the
> >>>>>battery disconnected comes to mind.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Mike
> >>>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>>>>
> >>>>>griffin wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>I think I'm going to park the CJ7 for the winter but I'm wondering what
> >>>>>>preparations I can make to help prevent any problems next spring. It
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>gets
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>very cold here (-35C or -30F approx) and it will be parked outside on a
> >>>>>>gravel driveway. It's pretty much stock with some growing amounts of
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>body
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>rust (some all the way through).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Thanks!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>griffin
> >>>>>>'85 CJ7
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
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Thinking about it, I got lucky. I had only gas in the tank, no lines or
engine attached.

Mike

twaldron wrote:
>
> While I don't think a couple of months of winter will age the gas
> significantly, a year and a half it too long for gas without Stabil or
> some other additive. Either the reseller had something in it already, or
> your climate is cold enough to keep it fresh all year [ :) ] but more
> likely, you got lucky and just burned up the bad gas without significant
> penalty. I'm sure it must've smelled old if you had stuck your nose in
> the tank's portal. I don't know how long the OP's winter is, but if it's
> more than 3 mos. I'd definitely put Stabil in it. It's cheap.
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
> > I have never done that and have never had any 'old gas' issues. One
> > winter isn't long. My CJ7 was parked for a year and a half while I did
> > the frame up and the gas was still fine.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > FrankW wrote:
> >
> >>If your going to fill the tank
> >>You better add fuel stabilizer to the gas.
> >>
> >>twaldron wrote:
> >>
> >>>A partially full gas tank will produce condensation from moisture in the
> >>>air, which in turn can freeze.
> >>>
> >>>griffin wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Gas in the tank? Why's that? I was thinking to empty it but then again
> >>>>I had
> >>>>no idea one way or the other ...
> >>>>
> >>>>griffin
> >>>>'85 CJ7
> >>>>
> >>>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >>>>news:41295D14.41C737A9@sympatico.ca...
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Good antifreeze, full tank of gas with some gas line deicer in 'just
> >>>>>because', proper antifreeze through the windshield washer system and the
> >>>>>battery disconnected comes to mind.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Mike
> >>>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>>>>
> >>>>>griffin wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>I think I'm going to park the CJ7 for the winter but I'm wondering what
> >>>>>>preparations I can make to help prevent any problems next spring. It
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>gets
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>very cold here (-35C or -30F approx) and it will be parked outside on a
> >>>>>>gravel driveway. It's pretty much stock with some growing amounts of
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>body
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>rust (some all the way through).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Thanks!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>griffin
> >>>>>>'85 CJ7
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
>
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From what he told me
Some gas varnished up in the carb
came loose, then partially plugged a high speed jet.
Cylinder ran lean and melted the piston.
Cheers
Frank

twaldron wrote:

> Snowmobiles, ATVs, and motorcycles are far more susceptible than cars to
> bad things happening to the small jets, floats etc. from bad gas.
>
> How in the world did a piston melt???
>
> FrankW wrote:
>
>> Bad advice Mike!
>> I guess you were lucky.
>> Gas doesn't last as long as the old days
>> If the gas is going to sit for more than a month
>> you MUST add fuel stabilizer.
>>
>> Ask any Marine mechanic or even read a marine
>> owners manual on winter storage issues.
>>
>> Some other good advice when storing for winter
>> is to change the oil in the diff's tranny etc.
>> This ensures there is no moisture to damage said components.
>>
>>
>> I store my Argo 6X6 every winter and I store my
>> snowmobile every summer. Been there........
>> A friend stored his snowmobile one summer
>> without stabilizer and varnish built up in
>> the carb....plugged a jet.....melted a piston
>> Fuel stabilizer is cheap insurance. :-)
>> Cheers
>> Frank
>>
>>
>> Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>>> I have never done that and have never had any 'old gas' issues. One
>>> winter isn't long. My CJ7 was parked for a year and a half while I did
>>> the frame up and the gas was still fine.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> FrankW wrote:
>>>
>>>> If your going to fill the tank
>>>> You better add fuel stabilizer to the gas.
>>>>
>>>> twaldron wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> A partially full gas tank will produce condensation from moisture
>>>>> in the
>>>>> air, which in turn can freeze.
>>>>>
>>>>> griffin wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Gas in the tank? Why's that? I was thinking to empty it but then
>>>>>> again
>>>>>> I had
>>>>>> no idea one way or the other ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> griffin
>>>>>> '85 CJ7
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:41295D14.41C737A9@sympatico.ca...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Good antifreeze, full tank of gas with some gas line deicer in 'just
>>>>>>> because', proper antifreeze through the windshield washer system
>>>>>>> and the
>>>>>>> battery disconnected comes to mind.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>>>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> griffin wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think I'm going to park the CJ7 for the winter but I'm
>>>>>>>> wondering what
>>>>>>>> preparations I can make to help prevent any problems next
>>>>>>>> spring. It
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> gets
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> very cold here (-35C or -30F approx) and it will be parked
>>>>>>>> outside on a
>>>>>>>> gravel driveway. It's pretty much stock with some growing
>>>>>>>> amounts of
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> body
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> rust (some all the way through).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> griffin
>>>>>>>> '85 CJ7
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>
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