Re: Why is the highest Octane in California only 91?
Not sure but I don't think Av-gas is taxed at the same rate as regular pump
gas is. Buddy of mine tells me it might be hard to get Av-gas because of this. Greg "Grumman-581" <grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM.houston.rr.com> wrote in message news:oQSib.22548$3A6.13443@twister.austin.rr.com.. . > "Lon Stowell" wrote ... > > No, but there just doesn't seem to be a market for Sunoco 260 > > or SuperShell 120 any more. It may be because nobody is > > running Kieth Black Ram/Hemi's on the street any more and > > the fuel management systems on modern cars can handle up > > to about 12:1 with the current brew. > > > > There *may* be some technical issue with that high of an octane > > and the Kalifornia air resources board, but don't know of any. > > It's easier to increase octane by adding lead, so we don't see any really > high octane unleaded gasolines... Here in Houston, we have some stations > that sell 91 octane whereas others sell 93 octane... I don't know of any of > the production cars that need more than 91 octane although there might be a > couple that do... If you need more than 93 octane, your choices are one of > the octane booster formulations in a bottle that you can buy at the auto > parts stores or if 100 octane is acceptable, you can buy it from your local > airport... It's called 100LL (Low Lead), but in reality, it should be Lotta > Lead since it had more lead in it that the old 80 octane leaded avgas... The > really nice thing about 100LL is that if you get it on something, it > evaporates and doesn't leave a gasoline smell to it... You'll pay anywhere > from $2.00 to $3.50 per gallon for 100LL, depending upon the airport that > you get it from... > > |
Re: Why is the highest Octane in California only 91?
I guess I should read the whole thread before I post... This is twice
tonight... Greg "Bob Casanova" <nospam@buzz.off> wrote in message news:pfooovktq7imvfnafr6if2ng1v4k6s4q4l@4ax.com... > On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 13:26:44 GMT, the following appeared in > rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys, posted by "Grumman-581" > <grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM.houston.rr.com>: > > >"Lon Stowell" wrote ... > >> No, but there just doesn't seem to be a market for Sunoco 260 > >> or SuperShell 120 any more. It may be because nobody is > >> running Kieth Black Ram/Hemi's on the street any more and > >> the fuel management systems on modern cars can handle up > >> to about 12:1 with the current brew. > >> > >> There *may* be some technical issue with that high of an octane > >> and the Kalifornia air resources board, but don't know of any. > > > >It's easier to increase octane by adding lead, so we don't see any really > >high octane unleaded gasolines... Here in Houston, we have some stations > >that sell 91 octane whereas others sell 93 octane... I don't know of any of > >the production cars that need more than 91 octane although there might be a > >couple that do... If you need more than 93 octane, your choices are one of > >the octane booster formulations in a bottle that you can buy at the auto > >parts stores or if 100 octane is acceptable, you can buy it from your local > >airport... It's called 100LL (Low Lead), but in reality, it should be Lotta > >Lead since it had more lead in it that the old 80 octane leaded avgas... The > >really nice thing about 100LL is that if you get it on something, it > >evaporates and doesn't leave a gasoline smell to it... You'll pay anywhere > >from $2.00 to $3.50 per gallon for 100LL, depending upon the airport that > >you get it from... > > Don't get caught. In addition to the issue of illegal use of > leaded gas in a vehicle designed for unleaded, there's also > the minor issue of tax evasion, both state and Federal > (since IIRC no road tax is collected on avgas). Sorta like > using #2 fuel oil in your on-road diesel. > > -- > > Bob C. > > Reply to Bob-Casanova @ worldnet.att.net > (without the spaces, of course) > > "The most exciting phrase to hear in science, > the one that heralds new discoveries, is not > 'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'" > - Isaac Asimov |
Re: Why is the highest Octane in California only 91?
I guess I should read the whole thread before I post... This is twice
tonight... Greg "Bob Casanova" <nospam@buzz.off> wrote in message news:pfooovktq7imvfnafr6if2ng1v4k6s4q4l@4ax.com... > On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 13:26:44 GMT, the following appeared in > rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys, posted by "Grumman-581" > <grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM.houston.rr.com>: > > >"Lon Stowell" wrote ... > >> No, but there just doesn't seem to be a market for Sunoco 260 > >> or SuperShell 120 any more. It may be because nobody is > >> running Kieth Black Ram/Hemi's on the street any more and > >> the fuel management systems on modern cars can handle up > >> to about 12:1 with the current brew. > >> > >> There *may* be some technical issue with that high of an octane > >> and the Kalifornia air resources board, but don't know of any. > > > >It's easier to increase octane by adding lead, so we don't see any really > >high octane unleaded gasolines... Here in Houston, we have some stations > >that sell 91 octane whereas others sell 93 octane... I don't know of any of > >the production cars that need more than 91 octane although there might be a > >couple that do... If you need more than 93 octane, your choices are one of > >the octane booster formulations in a bottle that you can buy at the auto > >parts stores or if 100 octane is acceptable, you can buy it from your local > >airport... It's called 100LL (Low Lead), but in reality, it should be Lotta > >Lead since it had more lead in it that the old 80 octane leaded avgas... The > >really nice thing about 100LL is that if you get it on something, it > >evaporates and doesn't leave a gasoline smell to it... You'll pay anywhere > >from $2.00 to $3.50 per gallon for 100LL, depending upon the airport that > >you get it from... > > Don't get caught. In addition to the issue of illegal use of > leaded gas in a vehicle designed for unleaded, there's also > the minor issue of tax evasion, both state and Federal > (since IIRC no road tax is collected on avgas). Sorta like > using #2 fuel oil in your on-road diesel. > > -- > > Bob C. > > Reply to Bob-Casanova @ worldnet.att.net > (without the spaces, of course) > > "The most exciting phrase to hear in science, > the one that heralds new discoveries, is not > 'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'" > - Isaac Asimov |
Re: Why is the highest Octane in California only 91?
I guess I should read the whole thread before I post... This is twice
tonight... Greg "Bob Casanova" <nospam@buzz.off> wrote in message news:pfooovktq7imvfnafr6if2ng1v4k6s4q4l@4ax.com... > On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 13:26:44 GMT, the following appeared in > rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys, posted by "Grumman-581" > <grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM.houston.rr.com>: > > >"Lon Stowell" wrote ... > >> No, but there just doesn't seem to be a market for Sunoco 260 > >> or SuperShell 120 any more. It may be because nobody is > >> running Kieth Black Ram/Hemi's on the street any more and > >> the fuel management systems on modern cars can handle up > >> to about 12:1 with the current brew. > >> > >> There *may* be some technical issue with that high of an octane > >> and the Kalifornia air resources board, but don't know of any. > > > >It's easier to increase octane by adding lead, so we don't see any really > >high octane unleaded gasolines... Here in Houston, we have some stations > >that sell 91 octane whereas others sell 93 octane... I don't know of any of > >the production cars that need more than 91 octane although there might be a > >couple that do... If you need more than 93 octane, your choices are one of > >the octane booster formulations in a bottle that you can buy at the auto > >parts stores or if 100 octane is acceptable, you can buy it from your local > >airport... It's called 100LL (Low Lead), but in reality, it should be Lotta > >Lead since it had more lead in it that the old 80 octane leaded avgas... The > >really nice thing about 100LL is that if you get it on something, it > >evaporates and doesn't leave a gasoline smell to it... You'll pay anywhere > >from $2.00 to $3.50 per gallon for 100LL, depending upon the airport that > >you get it from... > > Don't get caught. In addition to the issue of illegal use of > leaded gas in a vehicle designed for unleaded, there's also > the minor issue of tax evasion, both state and Federal > (since IIRC no road tax is collected on avgas). Sorta like > using #2 fuel oil in your on-road diesel. > > -- > > Bob C. > > Reply to Bob-Casanova @ worldnet.att.net > (without the spaces, of course) > > "The most exciting phrase to hear in science, > the one that heralds new discoveries, is not > 'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'" > - Isaac Asimov |
Re: Why is the highest Octane in California only 91?
towing right?? heh heh
Greg "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:3F8DC5A8.AC3237A@cox.net... > I think we all know why heavy equipment operators buy diesel > pickups. > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > Bob Casanova wrote: > > > > All true, and all irrelevant. The tax law is what the gov > > says it is, and the excuse that you're paying aviation taxes > > won't mean a thing if you use it on-road. Check it out (use > > a pay phone if you're worried about being ID'd); the "nice" > > IRS people will tell you the same thing. > > > > -- > > > > Bob C. > > > > Reply to Bob-Casanova @ worldnet.att.net > > (without the spaces, of course) > > > > "The most exciting phrase to hear in science, > > the one that heralds new discoveries, is not > > 'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'" > > - Isaac Asimov |
Re: Why is the highest Octane in California only 91?
towing right?? heh heh
Greg "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:3F8DC5A8.AC3237A@cox.net... > I think we all know why heavy equipment operators buy diesel > pickups. > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > Bob Casanova wrote: > > > > All true, and all irrelevant. The tax law is what the gov > > says it is, and the excuse that you're paying aviation taxes > > won't mean a thing if you use it on-road. Check it out (use > > a pay phone if you're worried about being ID'd); the "nice" > > IRS people will tell you the same thing. > > > > -- > > > > Bob C. > > > > Reply to Bob-Casanova @ worldnet.att.net > > (without the spaces, of course) > > > > "The most exciting phrase to hear in science, > > the one that heralds new discoveries, is not > > 'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'" > > - Isaac Asimov |
Re: Why is the highest Octane in California only 91?
towing right?? heh heh
Greg "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:3F8DC5A8.AC3237A@cox.net... > I think we all know why heavy equipment operators buy diesel > pickups. > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > Bob Casanova wrote: > > > > All true, and all irrelevant. The tax law is what the gov > > says it is, and the excuse that you're paying aviation taxes > > won't mean a thing if you use it on-road. Check it out (use > > a pay phone if you're worried about being ID'd); the "nice" > > IRS people will tell you the same thing. > > > > -- > > > > Bob C. > > > > Reply to Bob-Casanova @ worldnet.att.net > > (without the spaces, of course) > > > > "The most exciting phrase to hear in science, > > the one that heralds new discoveries, is not > > 'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'" > > - Isaac Asimov |
Re: Why is the highest Octane in California only 91?
LOL
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ GMP News wrote: > > towing right?? heh heh > > Greg |
Re: Why is the highest Octane in California only 91?
LOL
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ GMP News wrote: > > towing right?? heh heh > > Greg |
Re: Why is the highest Octane in California only 91?
LOL
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ GMP News wrote: > > towing right?? heh heh > > Greg |
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