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L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 06-23-2004 08:23 PM

Re: Why do Wranglers cost so much (compared to liberty)
 
No, I have even more money, I own a Real Jeep:
http://www.----------.com/46jeep.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

j carter wrote:
>
> Does that mean you own a TJ. Bill? Maybe two?


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 06-23-2004 08:23 PM

Re: Why do Wranglers cost so much (compared to liberty)
 
No, I have even more money, I own a Real Jeep:
http://www.----------.com/46jeep.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

j carter wrote:
>
> Does that mean you own a TJ. Bill? Maybe two?


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 06-23-2004 08:23 PM

Re: Why do Wranglers cost so much (compared to liberty)
 
No, I have even more money, I own a Real Jeep:
http://www.----------.com/46jeep.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

j carter wrote:
>
> Does that mean you own a TJ. Bill? Maybe two?


Brian Hippel 07-01-2004 07:50 PM

Re: Why do Wranglers cost so much (compared to liberty)
 
Just a side note: I owned a Œ98 TJ, loved it..left the country for a year,
sold it. Bought a Œ03 Liberty Limited, loaded, with leather, sunroof, the
whole nine yards...it was okay...missed the 5-speed and feel of a
Wrangler...just bought a Œ04 X, Yellow...loving it!

They get the same gas mileage, by the way.



From: Charlie Dellacona <cdellacona@yahoo.com>
Organization: Comcast Online
Newsgroups: rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 03:26:49 GMT
Subject: Why do Wranglers cost so much (compared to liberty)


Thinking about a new vehicle.

I went to carsdirect.com and priced a pretty loaded
liberty limited (auto). All options but chrome wheels,
engine block heater and u-connect blue tooth phone
thingy.

MSRP/Invoice/Buy prices = $29,955/28,240/26,640

Did same thing with a Sahara TJ auto. Hard top
only, no ABS (can't seem to get them with auto),
no block heater.

MSRP/Invoice/Buy prices = $28,035/25,805/25,205

For about $1400 the liberty gives you:

Modern SOHC V-6 Engine (Better MPG/HP Same Torque)
Same Transmission
Select-Trac (vs Command-Trac)

Side Air Bags
6 CD Changer
Heated Seats
Leather Seats
6 way power seats
Power heated folding mirrors
Overhead Console
(Homelink,tire pressure monitor, trip computer)
Anti-Lock 4 wheel disks
Power Sunroof
Power Windows
Power Locks

The Sahara wins with stronger rear axle D44 vs
8.25" corporate axle (god that sounds awful)
Better tires/wheels.

My questions is: if DC can give me all that *stuff*
on a liberty, why does a sahara cost so much without
any modern features?

Sure I like the wrangler better, but it seems like DC
is screwing us badly with the price. Am I missing
something here?

BTW, any changes to Wranglers for '05? (Other than
the Unlimited thing)






Brian Hippel 07-01-2004 07:50 PM

Re: Why do Wranglers cost so much (compared to liberty)
 
Just a side note: I owned a Œ98 TJ, loved it..left the country for a year,
sold it. Bought a Œ03 Liberty Limited, loaded, with leather, sunroof, the
whole nine yards...it was okay...missed the 5-speed and feel of a
Wrangler...just bought a Œ04 X, Yellow...loving it!

They get the same gas mileage, by the way.



From: Charlie Dellacona <cdellacona@yahoo.com>
Organization: Comcast Online
Newsgroups: rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 03:26:49 GMT
Subject: Why do Wranglers cost so much (compared to liberty)


Thinking about a new vehicle.

I went to carsdirect.com and priced a pretty loaded
liberty limited (auto). All options but chrome wheels,
engine block heater and u-connect blue tooth phone
thingy.

MSRP/Invoice/Buy prices = $29,955/28,240/26,640

Did same thing with a Sahara TJ auto. Hard top
only, no ABS (can't seem to get them with auto),
no block heater.

MSRP/Invoice/Buy prices = $28,035/25,805/25,205

For about $1400 the liberty gives you:

Modern SOHC V-6 Engine (Better MPG/HP Same Torque)
Same Transmission
Select-Trac (vs Command-Trac)

Side Air Bags
6 CD Changer
Heated Seats
Leather Seats
6 way power seats
Power heated folding mirrors
Overhead Console
(Homelink,tire pressure monitor, trip computer)
Anti-Lock 4 wheel disks
Power Sunroof
Power Windows
Power Locks

The Sahara wins with stronger rear axle D44 vs
8.25" corporate axle (god that sounds awful)
Better tires/wheels.

My questions is: if DC can give me all that *stuff*
on a liberty, why does a sahara cost so much without
any modern features?

Sure I like the wrangler better, but it seems like DC
is screwing us badly with the price. Am I missing
something here?

BTW, any changes to Wranglers for '05? (Other than
the Unlimited thing)






Brian Hippel 07-01-2004 07:50 PM

Re: Why do Wranglers cost so much (compared to liberty)
 
Just a side note: I owned a Œ98 TJ, loved it..left the country for a year,
sold it. Bought a Œ03 Liberty Limited, loaded, with leather, sunroof, the
whole nine yards...it was okay...missed the 5-speed and feel of a
Wrangler...just bought a Œ04 X, Yellow...loving it!

They get the same gas mileage, by the way.



From: Charlie Dellacona <cdellacona@yahoo.com>
Organization: Comcast Online
Newsgroups: rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 03:26:49 GMT
Subject: Why do Wranglers cost so much (compared to liberty)


Thinking about a new vehicle.

I went to carsdirect.com and priced a pretty loaded
liberty limited (auto). All options but chrome wheels,
engine block heater and u-connect blue tooth phone
thingy.

MSRP/Invoice/Buy prices = $29,955/28,240/26,640

Did same thing with a Sahara TJ auto. Hard top
only, no ABS (can't seem to get them with auto),
no block heater.

MSRP/Invoice/Buy prices = $28,035/25,805/25,205

For about $1400 the liberty gives you:

Modern SOHC V-6 Engine (Better MPG/HP Same Torque)
Same Transmission
Select-Trac (vs Command-Trac)

Side Air Bags
6 CD Changer
Heated Seats
Leather Seats
6 way power seats
Power heated folding mirrors
Overhead Console
(Homelink,tire pressure monitor, trip computer)
Anti-Lock 4 wheel disks
Power Sunroof
Power Windows
Power Locks

The Sahara wins with stronger rear axle D44 vs
8.25" corporate axle (god that sounds awful)
Better tires/wheels.

My questions is: if DC can give me all that *stuff*
on a liberty, why does a sahara cost so much without
any modern features?

Sure I like the wrangler better, but it seems like DC
is screwing us badly with the price. Am I missing
something here?

BTW, any changes to Wranglers for '05? (Other than
the Unlimited thing)






Brian Hippel 07-01-2004 07:50 PM

Re: Why do Wranglers cost so much (compared to liberty)
 
Just a side note: I owned a Œ98 TJ, loved it..left the country for a year,
sold it. Bought a Œ03 Liberty Limited, loaded, with leather, sunroof, the
whole nine yards...it was okay...missed the 5-speed and feel of a
Wrangler...just bought a Œ04 X, Yellow...loving it!

They get the same gas mileage, by the way.



From: Charlie Dellacona <cdellacona@yahoo.com>
Organization: Comcast Online
Newsgroups: rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 03:26:49 GMT
Subject: Why do Wranglers cost so much (compared to liberty)


Thinking about a new vehicle.

I went to carsdirect.com and priced a pretty loaded
liberty limited (auto). All options but chrome wheels,
engine block heater and u-connect blue tooth phone
thingy.

MSRP/Invoice/Buy prices = $29,955/28,240/26,640

Did same thing with a Sahara TJ auto. Hard top
only, no ABS (can't seem to get them with auto),
no block heater.

MSRP/Invoice/Buy prices = $28,035/25,805/25,205

For about $1400 the liberty gives you:

Modern SOHC V-6 Engine (Better MPG/HP Same Torque)
Same Transmission
Select-Trac (vs Command-Trac)

Side Air Bags
6 CD Changer
Heated Seats
Leather Seats
6 way power seats
Power heated folding mirrors
Overhead Console
(Homelink,tire pressure monitor, trip computer)
Anti-Lock 4 wheel disks
Power Sunroof
Power Windows
Power Locks

The Sahara wins with stronger rear axle D44 vs
8.25" corporate axle (god that sounds awful)
Better tires/wheels.

My questions is: if DC can give me all that *stuff*
on a liberty, why does a sahara cost so much without
any modern features?

Sure I like the wrangler better, but it seems like DC
is screwing us badly with the price. Am I missing
something here?

BTW, any changes to Wranglers for '05? (Other than
the Unlimited thing)







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