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What's the difference between a 4" Lift and a 2 1/2" lift with 1 1/2" Shackles?
What would be the difference in quality, ride, performance and just plain
jeep "correctness" between these two lift configurations? Why would I want one over the other and would I still have 4" of lift in each case? Thanks in advance, Bill |
Re: What's the difference between a 4" Lift and a 2 1/2" lift with 1 1/2" Shackles?
If you have been reading anything here you would know the problem with
shackle lifts. From a previous post: "On the front, it throws your steering (caster) way off. It can affect your pinion angles on the front and the back. Longer shackle tend to make for more sway, the springs may shift from sided to side. It also reduces your departure and approach angles... the extended rear shackle is usually what drags (or hangs up) coming off the rocks." Go with the 4" suspension lift. Alternate and acceptable is a combination suspension and body lift (no more that 2" on the body). -- JimG 80' CJ-7 258 CID 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message news:bqurab$26d723$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de... > What would be the difference in quality, ride, performance and just plain > jeep "correctness" between these two lift configurations? > > Why would I want one over the other and would I still have 4" of lift in > each case? > > > Thanks in advance, > > Bill > > |
Re: What's the difference between a 4" Lift and a 2 1/2" lift with 1 1/2" Shackles?
If you have been reading anything here you would know the problem with
shackle lifts. From a previous post: "On the front, it throws your steering (caster) way off. It can affect your pinion angles on the front and the back. Longer shackle tend to make for more sway, the springs may shift from sided to side. It also reduces your departure and approach angles... the extended rear shackle is usually what drags (or hangs up) coming off the rocks." Go with the 4" suspension lift. Alternate and acceptable is a combination suspension and body lift (no more that 2" on the body). -- JimG 80' CJ-7 258 CID 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message news:bqurab$26d723$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de... > What would be the difference in quality, ride, performance and just plain > jeep "correctness" between these two lift configurations? > > Why would I want one over the other and would I still have 4" of lift in > each case? > > > Thanks in advance, > > Bill > > |
Re: What's the difference between a 4" Lift and a 2 1/2" lift with 1 1/2" Shackles?
If you have been reading anything here you would know the problem with
shackle lifts. From a previous post: "On the front, it throws your steering (caster) way off. It can affect your pinion angles on the front and the back. Longer shackle tend to make for more sway, the springs may shift from sided to side. It also reduces your departure and approach angles... the extended rear shackle is usually what drags (or hangs up) coming off the rocks." Go with the 4" suspension lift. Alternate and acceptable is a combination suspension and body lift (no more that 2" on the body). -- JimG 80' CJ-7 258 CID 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message news:bqurab$26d723$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de... > What would be the difference in quality, ride, performance and just plain > jeep "correctness" between these two lift configurations? > > Why would I want one over the other and would I still have 4" of lift in > each case? > > > Thanks in advance, > > Bill > > |
Re: What's the difference between a 4" Lift and a 2 1/2" lift with 1 1/2" Shackles?
Thanks guys,
This is for a CJ7, 83 year. Thanks for the responses. I get the picture and understand. Thanks again, Bill "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message news:bqurab$26d723$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de... > What would be the difference in quality, ride, performance and just plain > jeep "correctness" between these two lift configurations? > > Why would I want one over the other and would I still have 4" of lift in > each case? > > > Thanks in advance, > > Bill > > |
Re: What's the difference between a 4" Lift and a 2 1/2" lift with 1 1/2" Shackles?
Thanks guys,
This is for a CJ7, 83 year. Thanks for the responses. I get the picture and understand. Thanks again, Bill "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message news:bqurab$26d723$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de... > What would be the difference in quality, ride, performance and just plain > jeep "correctness" between these two lift configurations? > > Why would I want one over the other and would I still have 4" of lift in > each case? > > > Thanks in advance, > > Bill > > |
Re: What's the difference between a 4" Lift and a 2 1/2" lift with 1 1/2" Shackles?
Thanks guys,
This is for a CJ7, 83 year. Thanks for the responses. I get the picture and understand. Thanks again, Bill "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message news:bqurab$26d723$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de... > What would be the difference in quality, ride, performance and just plain > jeep "correctness" between these two lift configurations? > > Why would I want one over the other and would I still have 4" of lift in > each case? > > > Thanks in advance, > > Bill > > |
Re: What's the difference between a 4" Lift and a 2 1/2" lift with1 1/2" Shackles?
You said shackle lift so that means CJ or YJ, not TJ. It would
help to know which one we are talking about as well as what kind of driving you do. A shackle lift that gave you a true 2-1/2" of lift would mean that the new shackles were 5" longer than the stock ones. These will stress the mounts and collapse sideways. Not to mention the squirrely handling in the meantime because of the change in caster. (And Jeeps are not great in that department to start with!) In other words "NO!" The reinforced shackles that gie you an inch or so of lift are about all that you can safely use, even these are not reccomended. A spring lift will lift the frame and body up the full 4", lots more tire clearance, lots more ground clearance under the middle. Downside is that you still have to clear the axle pumkins (bigger tires) and the driveshaft angle gets pretty wierd. The high angle on the u-joints will cause early and regular u-joint failure, may need a slip yoke eliminator with CV style U-joints. While we are talking your other choice is a body lift. More tire cleanance, no change in frame clearance. They come in 1" (easy), 2" (ok but you will need some tweaking of the radiator and the shift lever), and 3" (don't do it, stresses the body mounts and it tends to collapse!) William Oliveri wrote: > What would be the difference in quality, ride, performance and just plain > jeep "correctness" between these two lift configurations? > > Why would I want one over the other and would I still have 4" of lift in > each case? > > > Thanks in advance, > > Bill > > |
Re: What's the difference between a 4" Lift and a 2 1/2" lift with1 1/2" Shackles?
You said shackle lift so that means CJ or YJ, not TJ. It would
help to know which one we are talking about as well as what kind of driving you do. A shackle lift that gave you a true 2-1/2" of lift would mean that the new shackles were 5" longer than the stock ones. These will stress the mounts and collapse sideways. Not to mention the squirrely handling in the meantime because of the change in caster. (And Jeeps are not great in that department to start with!) In other words "NO!" The reinforced shackles that gie you an inch or so of lift are about all that you can safely use, even these are not reccomended. A spring lift will lift the frame and body up the full 4", lots more tire clearance, lots more ground clearance under the middle. Downside is that you still have to clear the axle pumkins (bigger tires) and the driveshaft angle gets pretty wierd. The high angle on the u-joints will cause early and regular u-joint failure, may need a slip yoke eliminator with CV style U-joints. While we are talking your other choice is a body lift. More tire cleanance, no change in frame clearance. They come in 1" (easy), 2" (ok but you will need some tweaking of the radiator and the shift lever), and 3" (don't do it, stresses the body mounts and it tends to collapse!) William Oliveri wrote: > What would be the difference in quality, ride, performance and just plain > jeep "correctness" between these two lift configurations? > > Why would I want one over the other and would I still have 4" of lift in > each case? > > > Thanks in advance, > > Bill > > |
Re: What's the difference between a 4" Lift and a 2 1/2" lift with1 1/2" Shackles?
You said shackle lift so that means CJ or YJ, not TJ. It would
help to know which one we are talking about as well as what kind of driving you do. A shackle lift that gave you a true 2-1/2" of lift would mean that the new shackles were 5" longer than the stock ones. These will stress the mounts and collapse sideways. Not to mention the squirrely handling in the meantime because of the change in caster. (And Jeeps are not great in that department to start with!) In other words "NO!" The reinforced shackles that gie you an inch or so of lift are about all that you can safely use, even these are not reccomended. A spring lift will lift the frame and body up the full 4", lots more tire clearance, lots more ground clearance under the middle. Downside is that you still have to clear the axle pumkins (bigger tires) and the driveshaft angle gets pretty wierd. The high angle on the u-joints will cause early and regular u-joint failure, may need a slip yoke eliminator with CV style U-joints. While we are talking your other choice is a body lift. More tire cleanance, no change in frame clearance. They come in 1" (easy), 2" (ok but you will need some tweaking of the radiator and the shift lever), and 3" (don't do it, stresses the body mounts and it tends to collapse!) William Oliveri wrote: > What would be the difference in quality, ride, performance and just plain > jeep "correctness" between these two lift configurations? > > Why would I want one over the other and would I still have 4" of lift in > each case? > > > Thanks in advance, > > Bill > > |
Re: What's the difference between a 4" Lift and a 2 1/2" lift with 1 1/2" Shackles?
You would prefer the short shackels that you will use with the 4" lift over
the longer shackles that you will use with the 2.5" lift. The shackles are just another flex point that you should try to avoid if you can. "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message news:bqurab$26d723$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de... > What would be the difference in quality, ride, performance and just plain > jeep "correctness" between these two lift configurations? > > Why would I want one over the other and would I still have 4" of lift in > each case? > > > Thanks in advance, > > Bill > > |
Re: What's the difference between a 4" Lift and a 2 1/2" lift with 1 1/2" Shackles?
You would prefer the short shackels that you will use with the 4" lift over
the longer shackles that you will use with the 2.5" lift. The shackles are just another flex point that you should try to avoid if you can. "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message news:bqurab$26d723$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de... > What would be the difference in quality, ride, performance and just plain > jeep "correctness" between these two lift configurations? > > Why would I want one over the other and would I still have 4" of lift in > each case? > > > Thanks in advance, > > Bill > > |
Re: What's the difference between a 4" Lift and a 2 1/2" lift with 1 1/2" Shackles?
You would prefer the short shackels that you will use with the 4" lift over
the longer shackles that you will use with the 2.5" lift. The shackles are just another flex point that you should try to avoid if you can. "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message news:bqurab$26d723$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de... > What would be the difference in quality, ride, performance and just plain > jeep "correctness" between these two lift configurations? > > Why would I want one over the other and would I still have 4" of lift in > each case? > > > Thanks in advance, > > Bill > > |
Re: What's the difference between a 4" Lift and a 2 1/2" lift with 1 1/2" Shackles?
Can you use a 1" body lift on a 98 TJ (manual w/AC) ?
Cost and suppliers please. Thanks |
Re: What's the difference between a 4" Lift and a 2 1/2" lift with 1 1/2" Shackles?
Can you use a 1" body lift on a 98 TJ (manual w/AC) ?
Cost and suppliers please. Thanks |
Re: What's the difference between a 4" Lift and a 2 1/2" lift with 1 1/2" Shackles?
Can you use a 1" body lift on a 98 TJ (manual w/AC) ?
Cost and suppliers please. Thanks |
Re: What's the difference between a 4" Lift and a 2 1/2" lift with 1 1/2" Shackles?
Yes.
Try places like 4WheelParts Wholesalers and Off Road Warehouse. I don't know the price off the top of my head, but I would think that $75 ought to cover the entire tab. "OU812" <xqoozeme@aol.comSpamSux> wrote in message news:20031210181534.11201.00000533@mb-m11.aol.com... > Can you use a 1" body lift on a 98 TJ (manual w/AC) ? > Cost and suppliers please. > Thanks |
Re: What's the difference between a 4" Lift and a 2 1/2" lift with 1 1/2" Shackles?
Yes.
Try places like 4WheelParts Wholesalers and Off Road Warehouse. I don't know the price off the top of my head, but I would think that $75 ought to cover the entire tab. "OU812" <xqoozeme@aol.comSpamSux> wrote in message news:20031210181534.11201.00000533@mb-m11.aol.com... > Can you use a 1" body lift on a 98 TJ (manual w/AC) ? > Cost and suppliers please. > Thanks |
Re: What's the difference between a 4" Lift and a 2 1/2" lift with 1 1/2" Shackles?
Yes.
Try places like 4WheelParts Wholesalers and Off Road Warehouse. I don't know the price off the top of my head, but I would think that $75 ought to cover the entire tab. "OU812" <xqoozeme@aol.comSpamSux> wrote in message news:20031210181534.11201.00000533@mb-m11.aol.com... > Can you use a 1" body lift on a 98 TJ (manual w/AC) ? > Cost and suppliers please. > Thanks |
Re: What's the difference between a 4" Lift and a 2 1/2" lift with 1 1/2" Shackles?
I am planing on going with a belly up kit for my TJ. is it better to get a
1" or 2" body lift?? Jeremy "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:vthqna7ta6in50@corp.supernews.com... > Yes. > > Try places like 4WheelParts Wholesalers and Off Road Warehouse. I don't know > the price off the top of my head, but I would think that $75 ought to cover > the entire tab. > > > > > "OU812" <xqoozeme@aol.comSpamSux> wrote in message > news:20031210181534.11201.00000533@mb-m11.aol.com... > > Can you use a 1" body lift on a 98 TJ (manual w/AC) ? > > Cost and suppliers please. > > Thanks > |
Re: What's the difference between a 4" Lift and a 2 1/2" lift with 1 1/2" Shackles?
I am planing on going with a belly up kit for my TJ. is it better to get a
1" or 2" body lift?? Jeremy "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:vthqna7ta6in50@corp.supernews.com... > Yes. > > Try places like 4WheelParts Wholesalers and Off Road Warehouse. I don't know > the price off the top of my head, but I would think that $75 ought to cover > the entire tab. > > > > > "OU812" <xqoozeme@aol.comSpamSux> wrote in message > news:20031210181534.11201.00000533@mb-m11.aol.com... > > Can you use a 1" body lift on a 98 TJ (manual w/AC) ? > > Cost and suppliers please. > > Thanks > |
Re: What's the difference between a 4" Lift and a 2 1/2" lift with 1 1/2" Shackles?
I am planing on going with a belly up kit for my TJ. is it better to get a
1" or 2" body lift?? Jeremy "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:vthqna7ta6in50@corp.supernews.com... > Yes. > > Try places like 4WheelParts Wholesalers and Off Road Warehouse. I don't know > the price off the top of my head, but I would think that $75 ought to cover > the entire tab. > > > > > "OU812" <xqoozeme@aol.comSpamSux> wrote in message > news:20031210181534.11201.00000533@mb-m11.aol.com... > > Can you use a 1" body lift on a 98 TJ (manual w/AC) ? > > Cost and suppliers please. > > Thanks > |
Re: What's the difference between a 4" Lift and a 2 1/2" lift with 1 1/2" Shackles?
1" should be all you need. You will probably want to get the transfer case
shifter pivot bracket kit (I think quadratec has them). You will probably need a SYE, also. The belly up kit increases your drive line angle considerably. The 1" taller motor mounts might not hurt, too. While you're at it, get a Kilby gas tank skid plate and raise your gas tank up a bit, too. :-) (You can't change "one thing".) (I'm sure I'll be corrected if I'm wrong.) -- Jim -- 98 TJ SE 90 SJ GW http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98 "You can do any job in the world with the wrong tool if you try hard enough..." "4x4" in caps is "$X$" "Jeremy Hupe" <jhupe@cableone.net> wrote in message news:vv23scaqe2670a@corp.supernews.com... > I am planing on going with a belly up kit for my TJ. is it better to get a > 1" or 2" body lift?? > > Jeremy > > > "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:vthqna7ta6in50@corp.supernews.com... > > Yes. > > > > Try places like 4WheelParts Wholesalers and Off Road Warehouse. I don't > know > > the price off the top of my head, but I would think that $75 ought to > cover > > the entire tab. > > > > > > > > > > "OU812" <xqoozeme@aol.comSpamSux> wrote in message > > news:20031210181534.11201.00000533@mb-m11.aol.com... > > > Can you use a 1" body lift on a 98 TJ (manual w/AC) ? > > > Cost and suppliers please. > > > Thanks > > > > |
Re: What's the difference between a 4" Lift and a 2 1/2" lift with 1 1/2" Shackles?
1" should be all you need. You will probably want to get the transfer case
shifter pivot bracket kit (I think quadratec has them). You will probably need a SYE, also. The belly up kit increases your drive line angle considerably. The 1" taller motor mounts might not hurt, too. While you're at it, get a Kilby gas tank skid plate and raise your gas tank up a bit, too. :-) (You can't change "one thing".) (I'm sure I'll be corrected if I'm wrong.) -- Jim -- 98 TJ SE 90 SJ GW http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98 "You can do any job in the world with the wrong tool if you try hard enough..." "4x4" in caps is "$X$" "Jeremy Hupe" <jhupe@cableone.net> wrote in message news:vv23scaqe2670a@corp.supernews.com... > I am planing on going with a belly up kit for my TJ. is it better to get a > 1" or 2" body lift?? > > Jeremy > > > "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:vthqna7ta6in50@corp.supernews.com... > > Yes. > > > > Try places like 4WheelParts Wholesalers and Off Road Warehouse. I don't > know > > the price off the top of my head, but I would think that $75 ought to > cover > > the entire tab. > > > > > > > > > > "OU812" <xqoozeme@aol.comSpamSux> wrote in message > > news:20031210181534.11201.00000533@mb-m11.aol.com... > > > Can you use a 1" body lift on a 98 TJ (manual w/AC) ? > > > Cost and suppliers please. > > > Thanks > > > > |
Re: What's the difference between a 4" Lift and a 2 1/2" lift with 1 1/2" Shackles?
1" should be all you need. You will probably want to get the transfer case
shifter pivot bracket kit (I think quadratec has them). You will probably need a SYE, also. The belly up kit increases your drive line angle considerably. The 1" taller motor mounts might not hurt, too. While you're at it, get a Kilby gas tank skid plate and raise your gas tank up a bit, too. :-) (You can't change "one thing".) (I'm sure I'll be corrected if I'm wrong.) -- Jim -- 98 TJ SE 90 SJ GW http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98 "You can do any job in the world with the wrong tool if you try hard enough..." "4x4" in caps is "$X$" "Jeremy Hupe" <jhupe@cableone.net> wrote in message news:vv23scaqe2670a@corp.supernews.com... > I am planing on going with a belly up kit for my TJ. is it better to get a > 1" or 2" body lift?? > > Jeremy > > > "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:vthqna7ta6in50@corp.supernews.com... > > Yes. > > > > Try places like 4WheelParts Wholesalers and Off Road Warehouse. I don't > know > > the price off the top of my head, but I would think that $75 ought to > cover > > the entire tab. > > > > > > > > > > "OU812" <xqoozeme@aol.comSpamSux> wrote in message > > news:20031210181534.11201.00000533@mb-m11.aol.com... > > > Can you use a 1" body lift on a 98 TJ (manual w/AC) ? > > > Cost and suppliers please. > > > Thanks > > > > |
Re: What's the difference between a 4" Lift and a 2 1/2" lift with 1 1/2" Shackles?
Too true, always a work in progress. I am also going with a 1" coil spacers
for now then later I will get a 3" lift kit for a total of 5" of lift :) BTW I saw a SYE on RubiconExpress.com that taped into the origional output shaft of the transfer case. http://www.rubiconexpress.com/dynami...p?folderid=208 Is that strong enough for easy to moderate crawling or is it much more recomended to get the HD version that also reduces the driveline angle?? Jeremy "TJim" <jim@ranlet.nospam.com> wrote in message news:Q8-dnbvKOO7y4WyiRVn-hQ@comcast.com... > 1" should be all you need. You will probably want to get the transfer case > shifter pivot bracket kit (I think quadratec has them). You will probably > need a SYE, also. The belly up kit increases your drive line angle > considerably. The 1" taller motor mounts might not hurt, too. While you're > at it, get a Kilby gas tank skid plate and raise your gas tank up a bit, > too. :-) > > (You can't change "one thing".) > > (I'm sure I'll be corrected if I'm wrong.) > > -- > Jim > -- > 98 TJ SE > 90 SJ GW > http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98 > "You can do any job in the world with the wrong tool if you try hard > enough..." > "4x4" in caps is "$X$" > > > "Jeremy Hupe" <jhupe@cableone.net> wrote in message > news:vv23scaqe2670a@corp.supernews.com... > > I am planing on going with a belly up kit for my TJ. is it better to get > a > > 1" or 2" body lift?? > > > > Jeremy > > > > > > "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > news:vthqna7ta6in50@corp.supernews.com... > > > Yes. > > > > > > Try places like 4WheelParts Wholesalers and Off Road Warehouse. I don't > > know > > > the price off the top of my head, but I would think that $75 ought to > > cover > > > the entire tab. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "OU812" <xqoozeme@aol.comSpamSux> wrote in message > > > news:20031210181534.11201.00000533@mb-m11.aol.com... > > > > Can you use a 1" body lift on a 98 TJ (manual w/AC) ? > > > > Cost and suppliers please. > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > |
Re: What's the difference between a 4" Lift and a 2 1/2" lift with 1 1/2" Shackles?
Too true, always a work in progress. I am also going with a 1" coil spacers
for now then later I will get a 3" lift kit for a total of 5" of lift :) BTW I saw a SYE on RubiconExpress.com that taped into the origional output shaft of the transfer case. http://www.rubiconexpress.com/dynami...p?folderid=208 Is that strong enough for easy to moderate crawling or is it much more recomended to get the HD version that also reduces the driveline angle?? Jeremy "TJim" <jim@ranlet.nospam.com> wrote in message news:Q8-dnbvKOO7y4WyiRVn-hQ@comcast.com... > 1" should be all you need. You will probably want to get the transfer case > shifter pivot bracket kit (I think quadratec has them). You will probably > need a SYE, also. The belly up kit increases your drive line angle > considerably. The 1" taller motor mounts might not hurt, too. While you're > at it, get a Kilby gas tank skid plate and raise your gas tank up a bit, > too. :-) > > (You can't change "one thing".) > > (I'm sure I'll be corrected if I'm wrong.) > > -- > Jim > -- > 98 TJ SE > 90 SJ GW > http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98 > "You can do any job in the world with the wrong tool if you try hard > enough..." > "4x4" in caps is "$X$" > > > "Jeremy Hupe" <jhupe@cableone.net> wrote in message > news:vv23scaqe2670a@corp.supernews.com... > > I am planing on going with a belly up kit for my TJ. is it better to get > a > > 1" or 2" body lift?? > > > > Jeremy > > > > > > "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > news:vthqna7ta6in50@corp.supernews.com... > > > Yes. > > > > > > Try places like 4WheelParts Wholesalers and Off Road Warehouse. I don't > > know > > > the price off the top of my head, but I would think that $75 ought to > > cover > > > the entire tab. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "OU812" <xqoozeme@aol.comSpamSux> wrote in message > > > news:20031210181534.11201.00000533@mb-m11.aol.com... > > > > Can you use a 1" body lift on a 98 TJ (manual w/AC) ? > > > > Cost and suppliers please. > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > |
Re: What's the difference between a 4" Lift and a 2 1/2" lift with 1 1/2" Shackles?
Too true, always a work in progress. I am also going with a 1" coil spacers
for now then later I will get a 3" lift kit for a total of 5" of lift :) BTW I saw a SYE on RubiconExpress.com that taped into the origional output shaft of the transfer case. http://www.rubiconexpress.com/dynami...p?folderid=208 Is that strong enough for easy to moderate crawling or is it much more recomended to get the HD version that also reduces the driveline angle?? Jeremy "TJim" <jim@ranlet.nospam.com> wrote in message news:Q8-dnbvKOO7y4WyiRVn-hQ@comcast.com... > 1" should be all you need. You will probably want to get the transfer case > shifter pivot bracket kit (I think quadratec has them). You will probably > need a SYE, also. The belly up kit increases your drive line angle > considerably. The 1" taller motor mounts might not hurt, too. While you're > at it, get a Kilby gas tank skid plate and raise your gas tank up a bit, > too. :-) > > (You can't change "one thing".) > > (I'm sure I'll be corrected if I'm wrong.) > > -- > Jim > -- > 98 TJ SE > 90 SJ GW > http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98 > "You can do any job in the world with the wrong tool if you try hard > enough..." > "4x4" in caps is "$X$" > > > "Jeremy Hupe" <jhupe@cableone.net> wrote in message > news:vv23scaqe2670a@corp.supernews.com... > > I am planing on going with a belly up kit for my TJ. is it better to get > a > > 1" or 2" body lift?? > > > > Jeremy > > > > > > "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > news:vthqna7ta6in50@corp.supernews.com... > > > Yes. > > > > > > Try places like 4WheelParts Wholesalers and Off Road Warehouse. I don't > > know > > > the price off the top of my head, but I would think that $75 ought to > > cover > > > the entire tab. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "OU812" <xqoozeme@aol.comSpamSux> wrote in message > > > news:20031210181534.11201.00000533@mb-m11.aol.com... > > > > Can you use a 1" body lift on a 98 TJ (manual w/AC) ? > > > > Cost and suppliers please. > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > |
Re: What's the difference between a 4" Lift and a 2 1/2" lift with 11/2" Shackles?
I wouldn't hack and tap: http://www.yuccaman.com/jeep/sye.html Do
the Slip Yoke Eliminator conversion once: http://www.rockcrawler.com/techrepor...iner/index.asp God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Jeremy Hupe wrote: > > Too true, always a work in progress. I am also going with a 1" coil spacers > for now then later I will get a 3" lift kit for a total of 5" of lift :) > > BTW I saw a SYE on RubiconExpress.com that taped into the origional output > shaft of the transfer case. > http://www.rubiconexpress.com/dynami...p?folderid=208 > Is that strong enough for easy to moderate crawling or is it much more > recomended to get the HD version that also reduces the driveline angle?? > > Jeremy |
Re: What's the difference between a 4" Lift and a 2 1/2" lift with 11/2" Shackles?
I wouldn't hack and tap: http://www.yuccaman.com/jeep/sye.html Do
the Slip Yoke Eliminator conversion once: http://www.rockcrawler.com/techrepor...iner/index.asp God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Jeremy Hupe wrote: > > Too true, always a work in progress. I am also going with a 1" coil spacers > for now then later I will get a 3" lift kit for a total of 5" of lift :) > > BTW I saw a SYE on RubiconExpress.com that taped into the origional output > shaft of the transfer case. > http://www.rubiconexpress.com/dynami...p?folderid=208 > Is that strong enough for easy to moderate crawling or is it much more > recomended to get the HD version that also reduces the driveline angle?? > > Jeremy |
Re: What's the difference between a 4" Lift and a 2 1/2" lift with 11/2" Shackles?
I wouldn't hack and tap: http://www.yuccaman.com/jeep/sye.html Do
the Slip Yoke Eliminator conversion once: http://www.rockcrawler.com/techrepor...iner/index.asp God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Jeremy Hupe wrote: > > Too true, always a work in progress. I am also going with a 1" coil spacers > for now then later I will get a 3" lift kit for a total of 5" of lift :) > > BTW I saw a SYE on RubiconExpress.com that taped into the origional output > shaft of the transfer case. > http://www.rubiconexpress.com/dynami...p?folderid=208 > Is that strong enough for easy to moderate crawling or is it much more > recomended to get the HD version that also reduces the driveline angle?? > > Jeremy |
Re: What's the difference between a 4" Lift and a 2 1/2" lift with 1 1/2" Shackles?
Just for the sake of numbers, remember that, since the shackle lifts only
at one end of the spring, the lift is roughly half the extended length at the axle tube. I think it'll help articulation a bit, though. Bump steer might be a problem when you get to lifts of higher numbers too. In my experience, uneven roads can leave you swerving like a drunk if you lift to wuthering heights. If you get froggy with some scrap steel and a drill press, you can make shackles all on your lonesome. But, I'd recommend against that and get some good braced ones aftermarket unless you're good at welding some yourself. If you don't have 'em braced, they tend to flex back and forth giving less than stellar handling and unnecessarily stressing the shackle bolts. Good Luck. o_o_o_o Best Regards, /| ,[_____], Jim, WP3JQ |¯¯¯L --O|||||||O- ()_)¯ ()_)¯¯¯¯¯ )_) EM60qk 30.447439N 086.628959W "Jeremy Hupe" <jhupe@cableone.net> wrote in message news:vv23scaqe2670a@corp.supernews.com... > I am planing on going with a belly up kit for my TJ. is it better to get a > 1" or 2" body lift?? > > Jeremy > > > "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:vthqna7ta6in50@corp.supernews.com... > > Yes. > > > > Try places like 4WheelParts Wholesalers and Off Road Warehouse. I don't > know > > the price off the top of my head, but I would think that $75 ought to > cover > > the entire tab. > > > > > > > > > > "OU812" <xqoozeme@aol.comSpamSux> wrote in message > > news:20031210181534.11201.00000533@mb-m11.aol.com... > > > Can you use a 1" body lift on a 98 TJ (manual w/AC) ? > > > Cost and suppliers please. > > > Thanks > > > > |
Re: What's the difference between a 4" Lift and a 2 1/2" lift with 1 1/2" Shackles?
Just for the sake of numbers, remember that, since the shackle lifts only
at one end of the spring, the lift is roughly half the extended length at the axle tube. I think it'll help articulation a bit, though. Bump steer might be a problem when you get to lifts of higher numbers too. In my experience, uneven roads can leave you swerving like a drunk if you lift to wuthering heights. If you get froggy with some scrap steel and a drill press, you can make shackles all on your lonesome. But, I'd recommend against that and get some good braced ones aftermarket unless you're good at welding some yourself. If you don't have 'em braced, they tend to flex back and forth giving less than stellar handling and unnecessarily stressing the shackle bolts. Good Luck. o_o_o_o Best Regards, /| ,[_____], Jim, WP3JQ |¯¯¯L --O|||||||O- ()_)¯ ()_)¯¯¯¯¯ )_) EM60qk 30.447439N 086.628959W "Jeremy Hupe" <jhupe@cableone.net> wrote in message news:vv23scaqe2670a@corp.supernews.com... > I am planing on going with a belly up kit for my TJ. is it better to get a > 1" or 2" body lift?? > > Jeremy > > > "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:vthqna7ta6in50@corp.supernews.com... > > Yes. > > > > Try places like 4WheelParts Wholesalers and Off Road Warehouse. I don't > know > > the price off the top of my head, but I would think that $75 ought to > cover > > the entire tab. > > > > > > > > > > "OU812" <xqoozeme@aol.comSpamSux> wrote in message > > news:20031210181534.11201.00000533@mb-m11.aol.com... > > > Can you use a 1" body lift on a 98 TJ (manual w/AC) ? > > > Cost and suppliers please. > > > Thanks > > > > |
Re: What's the difference between a 4" Lift and a 2 1/2" lift with 1 1/2" Shackles?
Just for the sake of numbers, remember that, since the shackle lifts only
at one end of the spring, the lift is roughly half the extended length at the axle tube. I think it'll help articulation a bit, though. Bump steer might be a problem when you get to lifts of higher numbers too. In my experience, uneven roads can leave you swerving like a drunk if you lift to wuthering heights. If you get froggy with some scrap steel and a drill press, you can make shackles all on your lonesome. But, I'd recommend against that and get some good braced ones aftermarket unless you're good at welding some yourself. If you don't have 'em braced, they tend to flex back and forth giving less than stellar handling and unnecessarily stressing the shackle bolts. Good Luck. o_o_o_o Best Regards, /| ,[_____], Jim, WP3JQ |¯¯¯L --O|||||||O- ()_)¯ ()_)¯¯¯¯¯ )_) EM60qk 30.447439N 086.628959W "Jeremy Hupe" <jhupe@cableone.net> wrote in message news:vv23scaqe2670a@corp.supernews.com... > I am planing on going with a belly up kit for my TJ. is it better to get a > 1" or 2" body lift?? > > Jeremy > > > "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:vthqna7ta6in50@corp.supernews.com... > > Yes. > > > > Try places like 4WheelParts Wholesalers and Off Road Warehouse. I don't > know > > the price off the top of my head, but I would think that $75 ought to > cover > > the entire tab. > > > > > > > > > > "OU812" <xqoozeme@aol.comSpamSux> wrote in message > > news:20031210181534.11201.00000533@mb-m11.aol.com... > > > Can you use a 1" body lift on a 98 TJ (manual w/AC) ? > > > Cost and suppliers please. > > > Thanks > > > > |
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