What springs do I have.....
 

I have an 85 CJ7 - the darned thing has leaned since I bought it several
years ago. It is finally bugging me enough that I want to fix it.

The current spring has a 'part number' of JN3-11 stamped on it. Any idea
what springs I have ?

I know it's a long shot but figured it's worth asking.....I figure there 4in
lift springs but want to verify and see if I can get the maker. I've
checked several web sites but am striking out.

THANKS for the help

John

Re: What springs do I have.....
 

I need to loose some weight too.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"John B. Parisi" wrote:
>
> I have an 85 CJ7 - the darned thing has leaned since I bought it several
> years ago. It is finally bugging me enough that I want to fix it.
>
> The current spring has a 'part number' of JN3-11 stamped on it. Any idea
> what springs I have ?
>
> I know it's a long shot but figured it's worth asking.....I figure there 4in
> lift springs but want to verify and see if I can get the maker. I've
> checked several web sites but am striking out.
>
> THANKS for the help
>
> John

Re: What springs do I have.....
 

been sittin' in it for a long time?????

--
Carlo F. Serusa, Jr. RPh
carlo.jr@comcast.net
'98 Sahara TJ - '89 YJ - '79 Scout II
O|||||||O
'92 Explorer '65 Mustang


"John B. Parisi" <jbparisi@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Tsj%a.123775$cF.33287@rwcrnsc53...
> yea -- yea --- me too
>
> but that does not explain why it leans when I'm **NOT** in the vehicle :-)
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:3F3DA0C3.32608056@cox.net...
> > I need to loose some weight too.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > "John B. Parisi" wrote:
> > >
> > > I have an 85 CJ7 - the darned thing has leaned since I bought it
several
> > > years ago. It is finally bugging me enough that I want to fix it.
> > >
> > > The current spring has a 'part number' of JN3-11 stamped on it. Any
> idea
> > > what springs I have ?
> > >
> > > I know it's a long shot but figured it's worth asking.....I figure
there
> 4in
> > > lift springs but want to verify and see if I can get the maker. I've
> > > checked several web sites but am striking out.
> > >
> > > THANKS for the help
> > >
> > > John
>
>

Re: What springs do I have.....
 

Thanks Mike --

Yep, it does lean to the drivers side. I look through the archives to see
if I can find the last thread.

When I measure the rear shackle - the left side is just about an inch lower
than the right side. I have a tough time believing this is
'normal' though. In fact, I think it may be getting worse over time as I do
not remember it leaning this much in the past - although I have not measured
it in the past either.

John
85 CJ7
258 w/ Howell inj
T-18 with AMC20 4:10s, Somer Bros one piece & Detroit lockers in rear
Trak Lok in with stock front end
4in spring lift (I think), extended greasable shackles with Rancho 9000s
BFG Muds 33s


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3F3E3F4A.9E4543F@sympatico.ca...
> Does it lean to the drivers side?
>
> For some strange reason CJ7's seem to do that.
>
> I figured my lean would be fixed with new springs, nope, it still has a
> lean on the drivers side.
>
> Have heard of a lot of others the same, there was a thread about it a
> short while ago.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> "John B. Parisi" wrote:
> >
> > I have an 85 CJ7 - the darned thing has leaned since I bought it several
> > years ago. It is finally bugging me enough that I want to fix it.
> >
> > The current spring has a 'part number' of JN3-11 stamped on it. Any
idea
> > what springs I have ?
> >
> > I know it's a long shot but figured it's worth asking.....I figure there
4in
> > lift springs but want to verify and see if I can get the maker. I've
> > checked several web sites but am striking out.
> >
> > THANKS for the help
> >
> > John

Re: What springs do I have.....
 

Yup, that is my thought too.

Sounds like one side has lost it's arch, a spring shop can fix that
easy.

Go to a place that does big trucks, they like playing with the 'little'
trucks and usually give great prices.

I had a truck shop arch new stock springs 2.5" for my rear and re-arch
my 1986 front springs to match. They added a 'keeper' spring by
replacing the top pack spring with a heavier one already temper arched
in the right lift and it has all stayed stable for over two years of
serious bouncing.

Cost me about $400.00 total.

A 4x4 specialty shop will likely be double the price.

Mike

"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Hi John,
> I would just have a local shop re arc what you have.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "John B. Parisi" wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Mike --
> >
> > Yep, it does lean to the drivers side. I look through the archives to see
> > if I can find the last thread.
> >
> > When I measure the rear shackle - the left side is just about an inch lower
> > than the right side. I have a tough time believing this is
> > 'normal' though. In fact, I think it may be getting worse over time as I do
> > not remember it leaning this much in the past - although I have not measured
> > it in the past either.
> >
> > John
> > 85 CJ7
> > 258 w/ Howell inj
> > T-18 with AMC20 4:10s, Somer Bros one piece & Detroit lockers in rear
> > Trak Lok in with stock front end
> > 4in spring lift (I think), extended greasable shackles with Rancho 9000s
> > BFG Muds 33s
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:3F3E3F4A.9E4543F@sympatico.ca...
> > > Does it lean to the drivers side?
> > >
> > > For some strange reason CJ7's seem to do that.
> > >
> > > I figured my lean would be fixed with new springs, nope, it still has a
> > > lean on the drivers side.
> > >
> > > Have heard of a lot of others the same, there was a thread about it a
> > > short while ago.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > "John B. Parisi" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I have an 85 CJ7 - the darned thing has leaned since I bought it several
> > > > years ago. It is finally bugging me enough that I want to fix it.
> > > >
> > > > The current spring has a 'part number' of JN3-11 stamped on it. Any
> > idea
> > > > what springs I have ?
> > > >
> > > > I know it's a long shot but figured it's worth asking.....I figure there
> > 4in
> > > > lift springs but want to verify and see if I can get the maker. I've
> > > > checked several web sites but am striking out.
> > > >
> > > > THANKS for the help
> > > >
> > > > John

Re: What springs do I have.....
 

Just to let you know, the brand spring you have is a Trailmaster. They
discontinued that number a few years back, and replaced it with a different
design. Recently they sold to another company(ceo ala steelhorse). Hope
this helps, good luck.

Best,

Don




--

I never met a hill I didn't want to climb...or a pretty redhead either. --
i8tokyo







"John B. Parisi" <jbparisi@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:cYd%a.151282$o%2.64851@sccrnsc02...
> I have an 85 CJ7 - the darned thing has leaned since I bought it several
> years ago. It is finally bugging me enough that I want to fix it.
>
> The current spring has a 'part number' of JN3-11 stamped on it. Any idea
> what springs I have ?
>
> I know it's a long shot but figured it's worth asking.....I figure there
4in
> lift springs but want to verify and see if I can get the maker. I've
> checked several web sites but am striking out.
>
> THANKS for the help
>
> John
>
>

Re: What springs do I have.....
 

One other thing to think of John.
I had the same problem. About 3/4" or more difference between drivers
side and passengers side. I too thought it was the springs. I took careful
measurements of the springs, especially the distance from the frame to the
top of the axle. I found out the problem wasn't in the springs at all. The
frame was cracked and sagging on the drivers side.It was REAL hard to find
too. Never saw it until I had the fenders, grill and radiator off for a
complete engine rebuild. There they were, cracks near the front shock tower,
right behind the first body mount on the driver's side and all along the top
of the frame where the cold weld never joined the two c-channels between the
aforementioned cracks.
The fix was to weld up the cracks (if you don't know exactly what your
doing have a body shop do it for you or you can really screw it up) and use
reinforcement plates along the frame rails. I got my plates from M.O.R.E..
They clamped right in place and all the holes lined right up, real easy job.
Now my frame is stronger than factory and my jeep doesn't look like its been
carrying a 600 pound driver.
Now someone out there is going to say that it will take out the "flex"
in the frame. I say that's crap and most frame pros will agree. Suspension
is for flex, the frame is supposed to be stiff, so it doesn't crack and
break and so it holds everything where its supposed to be.
Rich


"John B. Parisi" <jbparisi@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:cYd%a.151282$o%2.64851@sccrnsc02...
> I have an 85 CJ7 - the darned thing has leaned since I bought it several
> years ago. It is finally bugging me enough that I want to fix it.
>
> The current spring has a 'part number' of JN3-11 stamped on it. Any idea
> what springs I have ?
>
> I know it's a long shot but figured it's worth asking.....I figure there
4in
> lift springs but want to verify and see if I can get the maker. I've
> checked several web sites but am striking out.
>
> THANKS for the help
>
> John
>
>

Re: What springs do I have.....
 

I thought about going the re-arc route but have heard the re-arc typically
doesn't last very long and you end up in the same boat in a short amount of
time....



"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:3F3E8BC9.8FC950BC@cox.net...
> Hi John,
> I would just have a local shop re arc what you have.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "John B. Parisi" wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Mike --
> >
> > Yep, it does lean to the drivers side. I look through the archives to
see
> > if I can find the last thread.
> >
> > When I measure the rear shackle - the left side is just about an inch
lower
> > than the right side. I have a tough time believing this is
> > 'normal' though. In fact, I think it may be getting worse over time as
I do
> > not remember it leaning this much in the past - although I have not
measured
> > it in the past either.
> >
> > John
> > 85 CJ7
> > 258 w/ Howell inj
> > T-18 with AMC20 4:10s, Somer Bros one piece & Detroit lockers in rear
> > Trak Lok in with stock front end
> > 4in spring lift (I think), extended greasable shackles with Rancho 9000s
> > BFG Muds 33s
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:3F3E3F4A.9E4543F@sympatico.ca...
> > > Does it lean to the drivers side?
> > >
> > > For some strange reason CJ7's seem to do that.
> > >
> > > I figured my lean would be fixed with new springs, nope, it still has
a
> > > lean on the drivers side.
> > >
> > > Have heard of a lot of others the same, there was a thread about it a
> > > short while ago.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > "John B. Parisi" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I have an 85 CJ7 - the darned thing has leaned since I bought it
several
> > > > years ago. It is finally bugging me enough that I want to fix it.
> > > >
> > > > The current spring has a 'part number' of JN3-11 stamped on it. Any
> > idea
> > > > what springs I have ?
> > > >
> > > > I know it's a long shot but figured it's worth asking.....I figure
there
> > 4in
> > > > lift springs but want to verify and see if I can get the maker.
I've
> > > > checked several web sites but am striking out.
> > > >
> > > > THANKS for the help
> > > >
> > > > John

Re: What springs do I have.....
 

I had my front stock 86 springs re-arched to match my new 2.5" lift ones
and the arch has stayed stable.

They did replace the top of the pack spring with a 'keeper' leaf, a
heavier one already temper arched vs bent.

Mike

"John B. Parisi" wrote:
>
> I thought about going the re-arc route but have heard the re-arc typically
> doesn't last very long and you end up in the same boat in a short amount of
> time....
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:3F3E8BC9.8FC950BC@cox.net...
> > Hi John,
> > I would just have a local shop re arc what you have.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > "John B. Parisi" wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks Mike --
> > >
> > > Yep, it does lean to the drivers side. I look through the archives to
> see
> > > if I can find the last thread.
> > >
> > > When I measure the rear shackle - the left side is just about an inch
> lower
> > > than the right side. I have a tough time believing this is
> > > 'normal' though. In fact, I think it may be getting worse over time as
> I do
> > > not remember it leaning this much in the past - although I have not
> measured
> > > it in the past either.
> > >
> > > John
> > > 85 CJ7
> > > 258 w/ Howell inj
> > > T-18 with AMC20 4:10s, Somer Bros one piece & Detroit lockers in rear
> > > Trak Lok in with stock front end
> > > 4in spring lift (I think), extended greasable shackles with Rancho 9000s
> > > BFG Muds 33s
> > >
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:3F3E3F4A.9E4543F@sympatico.ca...
> > > > Does it lean to the drivers side?
> > > >
> > > > For some strange reason CJ7's seem to do that.
> > > >
> > > > I figured my lean would be fixed with new springs, nope, it still has
> a
> > > > lean on the drivers side.
> > > >
> > > > Have heard of a lot of others the same, there was a thread about it a
> > > > short while ago.
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > >
> > > > "John B. Parisi" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I have an 85 CJ7 - the darned thing has leaned since I bought it
> several
> > > > > years ago. It is finally bugging me enough that I want to fix it.
> > > > >
> > > > > The current spring has a 'part number' of JN3-11 stamped on it. Any
> > > idea
> > > > > what springs I have ?
> > > > >
> > > > > I know it's a long shot but figured it's worth asking.....I figure
> there
> > > 4in
> > > > > lift springs but want to verify and see if I can get the maker.
> I've
> > > > > checked several web sites but am striking out.
> > > > >
> > > > > THANKS for the help
> > > > >
> > > > > John