"mabar" <mabar@NoooSpamgrbonline.com> wrote in message
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> Oops, sorry. I mistakenly thought you were the nasty original poster. My
> appologies.
>
> What I should have said is the original poster's attitude didn't test very
> well either.
>

Understood.


<mabar@NoooSpamgrbonline.com> wrote in message
> news:4dKdnVz5uKvz_S3cRVn-jw@gbronline.com...
>> Your attitude didn't test market well either.
>>
>>
>> "SoK66" <SoK66@frontier.net> wrote in message
>> news:cooper0vc4@enews4.newsguy.com...
>> > Which is a good point. The friggin' thing's been on the market for
>> > weeks
>> and
>> > I've yet to see one of the ugly bastards on the road anywhere. My local
>> > dealer had one, then two, now he's got a lot full of them and it looks
>> like
>
>

 

"mabar" <mabar@NoooSpamgrbonline.com> wrote in message
news:wYednc4DFtWg_C3cRVn-1w@gbronline.com...
> Oops, sorry. I mistakenly thought you were the nasty original poster. My
> appologies.
>
> What I should have said is the original poster's attitude didn't test very
> well either.
>

Understood.


<mabar@NoooSpamgrbonline.com> wrote in message
> news:4dKdnVz5uKvz_S3cRVn-jw@gbronline.com...
>> Your attitude didn't test market well either.
>>
>>
>> "SoK66" <SoK66@frontier.net> wrote in message
>> news:cooper0vc4@enews4.newsguy.com...
>> > Which is a good point. The friggin' thing's been on the market for
>> > weeks
>> and
>> > I've yet to see one of the ugly bastards on the road anywhere. My local
>> > dealer had one, then two, now he's got a lot full of them and it looks
>> like
>
>

 

On 2 Dec 2004 19:30:53 -0800, kblitz9@yahoo.com (Kev) wrote:

<snip newbies tirade>

Well group, it begins all over again, <sigh> This is exactly the same thing
that happened when the Liberty came out. Bunches of newbies came here expecting
the regulars to be all excited about Jeep's latest mall runner. Newbies
"should" read the group before posting. They would quickly find that nobody
talks about Jeeps with independent front suspensions. However being newbies to
this group they probably don't even know what a front suspension is. <lol>

I just wish the newbie and the regulars would be nice to one another, cause
during the Liberty period it got pretty ugly IMHO. Common decency would have
the newbies reading and understanding the group before posting and then not
getting their feelings hurt when the regulars don't care about the mall runner.
The new Grand Cherokee might be a perfectly fine car, don't know, don't care.

So lets begin this tired old thread again, is the new Grand Cherokee a Jeep
because it says Jeep on the side? <ducking and running lol>

Dean
http://home.comcast.net/~1redcreek/


>> Hi all...I just test drove the 2005 Grand Cherokee. Very nice.
>> I was hoping I can hear of some good deals that people paid for there
>> new Jeep.
>> I live on the east coast in NYC.
>> Did you receive any incentives, cash back. What are the current
>> incentives, etc.
>> How much over invoice did you pay?
>>
>> Has anyone has leased or "smart-buyed"? I'm looking into that as
>> well, so please share your buying experience/advice, etc.
>>
>> Thanks so much

 

On 2 Dec 2004 19:30:53 -0800, kblitz9@yahoo.com (Kev) wrote:

<snip newbies tirade>

Well group, it begins all over again, <sigh> This is exactly the same thing
that happened when the Liberty came out. Bunches of newbies came here expecting
the regulars to be all excited about Jeep's latest mall runner. Newbies
"should" read the group before posting. They would quickly find that nobody
talks about Jeeps with independent front suspensions. However being newbies to
this group they probably don't even know what a front suspension is. <lol>

I just wish the newbie and the regulars would be nice to one another, cause
during the Liberty period it got pretty ugly IMHO. Common decency would have
the newbies reading and understanding the group before posting and then not
getting their feelings hurt when the regulars don't care about the mall runner.
The new Grand Cherokee might be a perfectly fine car, don't know, don't care.

So lets begin this tired old thread again, is the new Grand Cherokee a Jeep
because it says Jeep on the side? <ducking and running lol>

Dean
http://home.comcast.net/~1redcreek/


>> Hi all...I just test drove the 2005 Grand Cherokee. Very nice.
>> I was hoping I can hear of some good deals that people paid for there
>> new Jeep.
>> I live on the east coast in NYC.
>> Did you receive any incentives, cash back. What are the current
>> incentives, etc.
>> How much over invoice did you pay?
>>
>> Has anyone has leased or "smart-buyed"? I'm looking into that as
>> well, so please share your buying experience/advice, etc.
>>
>> Thanks so much

 

On 2 Dec 2004 19:30:53 -0800, kblitz9@yahoo.com (Kev) wrote:

<snip newbies tirade>

Well group, it begins all over again, <sigh> This is exactly the same thing
that happened when the Liberty came out. Bunches of newbies came here expecting
the regulars to be all excited about Jeep's latest mall runner. Newbies
"should" read the group before posting. They would quickly find that nobody
talks about Jeeps with independent front suspensions. However being newbies to
this group they probably don't even know what a front suspension is. <lol>

I just wish the newbie and the regulars would be nice to one another, cause
during the Liberty period it got pretty ugly IMHO. Common decency would have
the newbies reading and understanding the group before posting and then not
getting their feelings hurt when the regulars don't care about the mall runner.
The new Grand Cherokee might be a perfectly fine car, don't know, don't care.

So lets begin this tired old thread again, is the new Grand Cherokee a Jeep
because it says Jeep on the side? <ducking and running lol>

Dean
http://home.comcast.net/~1redcreek/


>> Hi all...I just test drove the 2005 Grand Cherokee. Very nice.
>> I was hoping I can hear of some good deals that people paid for there
>> new Jeep.
>> I live on the east coast in NYC.
>> Did you receive any incentives, cash back. What are the current
>> incentives, etc.
>> How much over invoice did you pay?
>>
>> Has anyone has leased or "smart-buyed"? I'm looking into that as
>> well, so please share your buying experience/advice, etc.
>>
>> Thanks so much

 

This is admittedly off-topic, my only excuse is that the trailer will be
dragged^W towed behind my CJ and youse guys know stuff.

This is a small, all steel utility trailer. I bought it from the original
owner, he bought it new from Sears, Roebuck & Co in 1947. The data plate
only says Sears, Roebuck & Co., no manufacturer's name. It weighs about
600#.

First: I notice that the greasable(!) spring shackles don't have rubber
bushings around them, they have about 1/4" of slop all the way around in
the eye. I should put in spring bushings, yes? Otherwise there's no
reason to grease the things, right?

Second: A welding question. IANAWelder, but I can burn holes in stuff
with electricity and make ugly puddles of melted metal. One fender has a
1" long crack running up the center of the front edge of the fender, it
looks like it is simply fatigue from the fender being leaned on during
loading/unloading. I'm guessing that if I drag out my little wire welder
and run over the crack it'll just come back. Should I add a strip of
sheet metal behind the crack first to act as a stiffener?

Thanks.




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This is admittedly off-topic, my only excuse is that the trailer will be
dragged^W towed behind my CJ and youse guys know stuff.

This is a small, all steel utility trailer. I bought it from the original
owner, he bought it new from Sears, Roebuck & Co in 1947. The data plate
only says Sears, Roebuck & Co., no manufacturer's name. It weighs about
600#.

First: I notice that the greasable(!) spring shackles don't have rubber
bushings around them, they have about 1/4" of slop all the way around in
the eye. I should put in spring bushings, yes? Otherwise there's no
reason to grease the things, right?

Second: A welding question. IANAWelder, but I can burn holes in stuff
with electricity and make ugly puddles of melted metal. One fender has a
1" long crack running up the center of the front edge of the fender, it
looks like it is simply fatigue from the fender being leaned on during
loading/unloading. I'm guessing that if I drag out my little wire welder
and run over the crack it'll just come back. Should I add a strip of
sheet metal behind the crack first to act as a stiffener?

Thanks.




--
Some conditions apply. YMMV. This message was packed by weight, not
by volume. TWIAVBP, local variation may occur. Dramatization, not a real
authority. Do not induce vomiting. No user-serviceable words inside.

 

This is admittedly off-topic, my only excuse is that the trailer will be
dragged^W towed behind my CJ and youse guys know stuff.

This is a small, all steel utility trailer. I bought it from the original
owner, he bought it new from Sears, Roebuck & Co in 1947. The data plate
only says Sears, Roebuck & Co., no manufacturer's name. It weighs about
600#.

First: I notice that the greasable(!) spring shackles don't have rubber
bushings around them, they have about 1/4" of slop all the way around in
the eye. I should put in spring bushings, yes? Otherwise there's no
reason to grease the things, right?

Second: A welding question. IANAWelder, but I can burn holes in stuff
with electricity and make ugly puddles of melted metal. One fender has a
1" long crack running up the center of the front edge of the fender, it
looks like it is simply fatigue from the fender being leaned on during
loading/unloading. I'm guessing that if I drag out my little wire welder
and run over the crack it'll just come back. Should I add a strip of
sheet metal behind the crack first to act as a stiffener?

Thanks.




--
Some conditions apply. YMMV. This message was packed by weight, not
by volume. TWIAVBP, local variation may occur. Dramatization, not a real
authority. Do not induce vomiting. No user-serviceable words inside.

 

You're welcome.



"Kev" <kblitz9@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:467e28b2.0412021930.1305537e@posting.google.c om...
> Eat ----
>
>
> kblitz9@yahoo.com (Kev) wrote in message
news:<467e28b2.0412011032.16ed0053@posting.google. com>...
> > Hi all...I just test drove the 2005 Grand Cherokee. Very nice.
> > I was hoping I can hear of some good deals that people paid for there
> > new Jeep.
> > I live on the east coast in NYC.
> > Did you receive any incentives, cash back. What are the current
> > incentives, etc.
> > How much over invoice did you pay?
> >
> > Has anyone has leased or "smart-buyed"? I'm looking into that as
> > well, so please share your buying experience/advice, etc.
> >
> > Thanks so much

 

You're welcome.



"Kev" <kblitz9@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:467e28b2.0412021930.1305537e@posting.google.c om...
> Eat ----
>
>
> kblitz9@yahoo.com (Kev) wrote in message
news:<467e28b2.0412011032.16ed0053@posting.google. com>...
> > Hi all...I just test drove the 2005 Grand Cherokee. Very nice.
> > I was hoping I can hear of some good deals that people paid for there
> > new Jeep.
> > I live on the east coast in NYC.
> > Did you receive any incentives, cash back. What are the current
> > incentives, etc.
> > How much over invoice did you pay?
> >
> > Has anyone has leased or "smart-buyed"? I'm looking into that as
> > well, so please share your buying experience/advice, etc.
> >
> > Thanks so much