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Eric 06-12-2005 09:53 PM

Re: What brand of gears should I use?
 
C'mon Bill... not everyone can afford a "new" axle AND gears (good luck
finding a D44 already geared to 4.88). I'm not looking to compete here, and
I'm pretty easy on the throttle. Not looking to build a monster, but trying
to improve my daily driving and get a lower first gear.

Besides, I wheel with a number of guys who have the D35c w/4.88s. Some of
them for years. And no one has had any problems. Yes, I know they break.
I know they're a terrible axle. When I break it, I'll upgrade to a D44 or
8.8. Until then...

Eric
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:42ABC8D6.44A0C824@cox.net...
> Hi Eric,
> A Freudian Slip wouldn't allow you to write in the cost of a Dana
> 35c 4.88 as you know with less the eight teeth on the pinion, it's
> explode if you look cross-eyed at it:
> http://www.quadratec.com/cgi-bin/sgi...M=00&checked=Y
> Be looking for an old Dana 44.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Eric wrote:
>>
>> I'm getting ready to regear my TJ. I do rock crawling at least once a
>> month -- maybe more. It is my daily driver. It's a 2.5L, 5spd. I have
>> 33"
>> tires. It has 59k miles. I can't think of any other facts that matter
>> here...
>>
>> So, I'm going with 4.88s. No question. The question is, what brand do I
>> buy?? I've heard great things about Yukon, but haven't heard anything
>> about
>> any other brands -- good or bad. A fellow club member sells parts and I
>> asked him for a quote. Here's what I got. The parts would all be
>> Genuine
>> Gear or Precision Gear:
>>
>> Dana 35 Mater Install Kit is $83.95
>> Dana 30 Mater Install Kit is $65.79
>> Dana 30 4.88 R & P TJ is $139.40
>> Air Down Guage is $12.99 ( Filler for Free Frt)
>>
>> Total Part is $302.13
>> Free Shipping over $300
>> Uncle Sam is $ 24.17
>> ________________
>> Grand Total $326.30
>>
>> By the way -- I'm getting the rears for free (buddy of mine won a gift
>> certificate he isn't going to use, so he gave it to me for my b-day).
>>
>> Should I spend more for Yukons? Are these OK? Thoughts, suggestions?
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Eric
>> 99 TJ SE




Eric 06-12-2005 09:53 PM

Re: What brand of gears should I use?
 
C'mon Bill... not everyone can afford a "new" axle AND gears (good luck
finding a D44 already geared to 4.88). I'm not looking to compete here, and
I'm pretty easy on the throttle. Not looking to build a monster, but trying
to improve my daily driving and get a lower first gear.

Besides, I wheel with a number of guys who have the D35c w/4.88s. Some of
them for years. And no one has had any problems. Yes, I know they break.
I know they're a terrible axle. When I break it, I'll upgrade to a D44 or
8.8. Until then...

Eric
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:42ABC8D6.44A0C824@cox.net...
> Hi Eric,
> A Freudian Slip wouldn't allow you to write in the cost of a Dana
> 35c 4.88 as you know with less the eight teeth on the pinion, it's
> explode if you look cross-eyed at it:
> http://www.quadratec.com/cgi-bin/sgi...M=00&checked=Y
> Be looking for an old Dana 44.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Eric wrote:
>>
>> I'm getting ready to regear my TJ. I do rock crawling at least once a
>> month -- maybe more. It is my daily driver. It's a 2.5L, 5spd. I have
>> 33"
>> tires. It has 59k miles. I can't think of any other facts that matter
>> here...
>>
>> So, I'm going with 4.88s. No question. The question is, what brand do I
>> buy?? I've heard great things about Yukon, but haven't heard anything
>> about
>> any other brands -- good or bad. A fellow club member sells parts and I
>> asked him for a quote. Here's what I got. The parts would all be
>> Genuine
>> Gear or Precision Gear:
>>
>> Dana 35 Mater Install Kit is $83.95
>> Dana 30 Mater Install Kit is $65.79
>> Dana 30 4.88 R & P TJ is $139.40
>> Air Down Guage is $12.99 ( Filler for Free Frt)
>>
>> Total Part is $302.13
>> Free Shipping over $300
>> Uncle Sam is $ 24.17
>> ________________
>> Grand Total $326.30
>>
>> By the way -- I'm getting the rears for free (buddy of mine won a gift
>> certificate he isn't going to use, so he gave it to me for my b-day).
>>
>> Should I spend more for Yukons? Are these OK? Thoughts, suggestions?
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Eric
>> 99 TJ SE




Eric 06-12-2005 09:53 PM

Re: What brand of gears should I use?
 
C'mon Bill... not everyone can afford a "new" axle AND gears (good luck
finding a D44 already geared to 4.88). I'm not looking to compete here, and
I'm pretty easy on the throttle. Not looking to build a monster, but trying
to improve my daily driving and get a lower first gear.

Besides, I wheel with a number of guys who have the D35c w/4.88s. Some of
them for years. And no one has had any problems. Yes, I know they break.
I know they're a terrible axle. When I break it, I'll upgrade to a D44 or
8.8. Until then...

Eric
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:42ABC8D6.44A0C824@cox.net...
> Hi Eric,
> A Freudian Slip wouldn't allow you to write in the cost of a Dana
> 35c 4.88 as you know with less the eight teeth on the pinion, it's
> explode if you look cross-eyed at it:
> http://www.quadratec.com/cgi-bin/sgi...M=00&checked=Y
> Be looking for an old Dana 44.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Eric wrote:
>>
>> I'm getting ready to regear my TJ. I do rock crawling at least once a
>> month -- maybe more. It is my daily driver. It's a 2.5L, 5spd. I have
>> 33"
>> tires. It has 59k miles. I can't think of any other facts that matter
>> here...
>>
>> So, I'm going with 4.88s. No question. The question is, what brand do I
>> buy?? I've heard great things about Yukon, but haven't heard anything
>> about
>> any other brands -- good or bad. A fellow club member sells parts and I
>> asked him for a quote. Here's what I got. The parts would all be
>> Genuine
>> Gear or Precision Gear:
>>
>> Dana 35 Mater Install Kit is $83.95
>> Dana 30 Mater Install Kit is $65.79
>> Dana 30 4.88 R & P TJ is $139.40
>> Air Down Guage is $12.99 ( Filler for Free Frt)
>>
>> Total Part is $302.13
>> Free Shipping over $300
>> Uncle Sam is $ 24.17
>> ________________
>> Grand Total $326.30
>>
>> By the way -- I'm getting the rears for free (buddy of mine won a gift
>> certificate he isn't going to use, so he gave it to me for my b-day).
>>
>> Should I spend more for Yukons? Are these OK? Thoughts, suggestions?
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Eric
>> 99 TJ SE




Eric 06-12-2005 09:57 PM

Re: What brand of gears should I use?
 
Two problems:

1. I have no clue who's installing the gears.

2. I'm buying the gears at two places -- the free set is coming from a shop
that hasn't gotten the highest ratings from folks in my club. But I'm just
getting the R&P from them anyway. My wife is buying the other R&P and
install kit for my B-day. She said she can't afford the install, but would
help me by buying a couple of pieces.

I'm really hoping I can get a specific person to install them -- but not
sure yet. If I waited until I had all the cash, I'd never get it done.
I've been talking about gears for quite a while now... if all I have to save
up for is the install, that's easier. Otherwise, SOMETHING is always coming
up.

Eric


"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message
news:PKYqe.2768$Cr.1295@fed1read07...
> If you're not installing the gears yourself, and I strongly recommend
> against you doing so unless you already know how to do so, I would have
> the installer provide the gears. You can request a particular brand and
> he will probably use that brand unless he has had too many bad experiences
> with it, but just make sure he provides the gears. If you buy them
> yourself to save a few bucks and there is any problem, the installer will
> just point fingers at the gears YOU provided him and then YOU will be the
> one to sort through who pays what. If he provides the gears, then there
> will be no finger-pointing.
>
> I'd say go with all Spicer gearing but Spicer doesn't make 4.88 for both
> of your axles. I'm no fan of Yukon because they're an import but then
> most (aside from Spicer) are today. And no matter what a few old guys who
> are out of touch with what really works, don't worry about 4.88 gears
> being too weak. They hold up just fine, even my 4.88 gearing with 35"
> tires and plenty of rock crawling are doing just fine. :)
>
> Jerry
>
> Eric wrote:
>> I'm getting ready to regear my TJ. I do rock crawling at least once a
>> month -- maybe more. It is my daily driver. It's a 2.5L, 5spd. I have
>> 33" tires. It has 59k miles. I can't think of any other facts that
>> matter here...
>>
>> So, I'm going with 4.88s. No question. The question is, what brand do I
>> buy?? I've heard great things about Yukon, but haven't heard anything
>> about any other brands -- good or bad. A fellow club member sells parts
>> and I asked him for a quote. Here's what I got. The parts would all be
>> Genuine Gear or Precision Gear:
>>
>> Dana 35 Mater Install Kit is $83.95
>> Dana 30 Mater Install Kit is $65.79
>> Dana 30 4.88 R & P TJ is $139.40
>> Air Down Guage is $12.99 ( Filler for Free Frt)
>>
>> Total Part is $302.13
>> Free Shipping over $300
>> Uncle Sam is $ 24.17
>> ________________
>> Grand Total $326.30
>>
>> By the way -- I'm getting the rears for free (buddy of mine won a gift
>> certificate he isn't going to use, so he gave it to me for my b-day).
>>
>> Should I spend more for Yukons? Are these OK? Thoughts, suggestions?
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Eric
>> 99 TJ SE
>>
>>

>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/




Eric 06-12-2005 09:57 PM

Re: What brand of gears should I use?
 
Two problems:

1. I have no clue who's installing the gears.

2. I'm buying the gears at two places -- the free set is coming from a shop
that hasn't gotten the highest ratings from folks in my club. But I'm just
getting the R&P from them anyway. My wife is buying the other R&P and
install kit for my B-day. She said she can't afford the install, but would
help me by buying a couple of pieces.

I'm really hoping I can get a specific person to install them -- but not
sure yet. If I waited until I had all the cash, I'd never get it done.
I've been talking about gears for quite a while now... if all I have to save
up for is the install, that's easier. Otherwise, SOMETHING is always coming
up.

Eric


"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message
news:PKYqe.2768$Cr.1295@fed1read07...
> If you're not installing the gears yourself, and I strongly recommend
> against you doing so unless you already know how to do so, I would have
> the installer provide the gears. You can request a particular brand and
> he will probably use that brand unless he has had too many bad experiences
> with it, but just make sure he provides the gears. If you buy them
> yourself to save a few bucks and there is any problem, the installer will
> just point fingers at the gears YOU provided him and then YOU will be the
> one to sort through who pays what. If he provides the gears, then there
> will be no finger-pointing.
>
> I'd say go with all Spicer gearing but Spicer doesn't make 4.88 for both
> of your axles. I'm no fan of Yukon because they're an import but then
> most (aside from Spicer) are today. And no matter what a few old guys who
> are out of touch with what really works, don't worry about 4.88 gears
> being too weak. They hold up just fine, even my 4.88 gearing with 35"
> tires and plenty of rock crawling are doing just fine. :)
>
> Jerry
>
> Eric wrote:
>> I'm getting ready to regear my TJ. I do rock crawling at least once a
>> month -- maybe more. It is my daily driver. It's a 2.5L, 5spd. I have
>> 33" tires. It has 59k miles. I can't think of any other facts that
>> matter here...
>>
>> So, I'm going with 4.88s. No question. The question is, what brand do I
>> buy?? I've heard great things about Yukon, but haven't heard anything
>> about any other brands -- good or bad. A fellow club member sells parts
>> and I asked him for a quote. Here's what I got. The parts would all be
>> Genuine Gear or Precision Gear:
>>
>> Dana 35 Mater Install Kit is $83.95
>> Dana 30 Mater Install Kit is $65.79
>> Dana 30 4.88 R & P TJ is $139.40
>> Air Down Guage is $12.99 ( Filler for Free Frt)
>>
>> Total Part is $302.13
>> Free Shipping over $300
>> Uncle Sam is $ 24.17
>> ________________
>> Grand Total $326.30
>>
>> By the way -- I'm getting the rears for free (buddy of mine won a gift
>> certificate he isn't going to use, so he gave it to me for my b-day).
>>
>> Should I spend more for Yukons? Are these OK? Thoughts, suggestions?
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Eric
>> 99 TJ SE
>>
>>

>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/




Eric 06-12-2005 09:57 PM

Re: What brand of gears should I use?
 
Two problems:

1. I have no clue who's installing the gears.

2. I'm buying the gears at two places -- the free set is coming from a shop
that hasn't gotten the highest ratings from folks in my club. But I'm just
getting the R&P from them anyway. My wife is buying the other R&P and
install kit for my B-day. She said she can't afford the install, but would
help me by buying a couple of pieces.

I'm really hoping I can get a specific person to install them -- but not
sure yet. If I waited until I had all the cash, I'd never get it done.
I've been talking about gears for quite a while now... if all I have to save
up for is the install, that's easier. Otherwise, SOMETHING is always coming
up.

Eric


"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message
news:PKYqe.2768$Cr.1295@fed1read07...
> If you're not installing the gears yourself, and I strongly recommend
> against you doing so unless you already know how to do so, I would have
> the installer provide the gears. You can request a particular brand and
> he will probably use that brand unless he has had too many bad experiences
> with it, but just make sure he provides the gears. If you buy them
> yourself to save a few bucks and there is any problem, the installer will
> just point fingers at the gears YOU provided him and then YOU will be the
> one to sort through who pays what. If he provides the gears, then there
> will be no finger-pointing.
>
> I'd say go with all Spicer gearing but Spicer doesn't make 4.88 for both
> of your axles. I'm no fan of Yukon because they're an import but then
> most (aside from Spicer) are today. And no matter what a few old guys who
> are out of touch with what really works, don't worry about 4.88 gears
> being too weak. They hold up just fine, even my 4.88 gearing with 35"
> tires and plenty of rock crawling are doing just fine. :)
>
> Jerry
>
> Eric wrote:
>> I'm getting ready to regear my TJ. I do rock crawling at least once a
>> month -- maybe more. It is my daily driver. It's a 2.5L, 5spd. I have
>> 33" tires. It has 59k miles. I can't think of any other facts that
>> matter here...
>>
>> So, I'm going with 4.88s. No question. The question is, what brand do I
>> buy?? I've heard great things about Yukon, but haven't heard anything
>> about any other brands -- good or bad. A fellow club member sells parts
>> and I asked him for a quote. Here's what I got. The parts would all be
>> Genuine Gear or Precision Gear:
>>
>> Dana 35 Mater Install Kit is $83.95
>> Dana 30 Mater Install Kit is $65.79
>> Dana 30 4.88 R & P TJ is $139.40
>> Air Down Guage is $12.99 ( Filler for Free Frt)
>>
>> Total Part is $302.13
>> Free Shipping over $300
>> Uncle Sam is $ 24.17
>> ________________
>> Grand Total $326.30
>>
>> By the way -- I'm getting the rears for free (buddy of mine won a gift
>> certificate he isn't going to use, so he gave it to me for my b-day).
>>
>> Should I spend more for Yukons? Are these OK? Thoughts, suggestions?
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Eric
>> 99 TJ SE
>>
>>

>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/




Eric 06-12-2005 09:57 PM

Re: What brand of gears should I use?
 
Two problems:

1. I have no clue who's installing the gears.

2. I'm buying the gears at two places -- the free set is coming from a shop
that hasn't gotten the highest ratings from folks in my club. But I'm just
getting the R&P from them anyway. My wife is buying the other R&P and
install kit for my B-day. She said she can't afford the install, but would
help me by buying a couple of pieces.

I'm really hoping I can get a specific person to install them -- but not
sure yet. If I waited until I had all the cash, I'd never get it done.
I've been talking about gears for quite a while now... if all I have to save
up for is the install, that's easier. Otherwise, SOMETHING is always coming
up.

Eric


"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message
news:PKYqe.2768$Cr.1295@fed1read07...
> If you're not installing the gears yourself, and I strongly recommend
> against you doing so unless you already know how to do so, I would have
> the installer provide the gears. You can request a particular brand and
> he will probably use that brand unless he has had too many bad experiences
> with it, but just make sure he provides the gears. If you buy them
> yourself to save a few bucks and there is any problem, the installer will
> just point fingers at the gears YOU provided him and then YOU will be the
> one to sort through who pays what. If he provides the gears, then there
> will be no finger-pointing.
>
> I'd say go with all Spicer gearing but Spicer doesn't make 4.88 for both
> of your axles. I'm no fan of Yukon because they're an import but then
> most (aside from Spicer) are today. And no matter what a few old guys who
> are out of touch with what really works, don't worry about 4.88 gears
> being too weak. They hold up just fine, even my 4.88 gearing with 35"
> tires and plenty of rock crawling are doing just fine. :)
>
> Jerry
>
> Eric wrote:
>> I'm getting ready to regear my TJ. I do rock crawling at least once a
>> month -- maybe more. It is my daily driver. It's a 2.5L, 5spd. I have
>> 33" tires. It has 59k miles. I can't think of any other facts that
>> matter here...
>>
>> So, I'm going with 4.88s. No question. The question is, what brand do I
>> buy?? I've heard great things about Yukon, but haven't heard anything
>> about any other brands -- good or bad. A fellow club member sells parts
>> and I asked him for a quote. Here's what I got. The parts would all be
>> Genuine Gear or Precision Gear:
>>
>> Dana 35 Mater Install Kit is $83.95
>> Dana 30 Mater Install Kit is $65.79
>> Dana 30 4.88 R & P TJ is $139.40
>> Air Down Guage is $12.99 ( Filler for Free Frt)
>>
>> Total Part is $302.13
>> Free Shipping over $300
>> Uncle Sam is $ 24.17
>> ________________
>> Grand Total $326.30
>>
>> By the way -- I'm getting the rears for free (buddy of mine won a gift
>> certificate he isn't going to use, so he gave it to me for my b-day).
>>
>> Should I spend more for Yukons? Are these OK? Thoughts, suggestions?
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Eric
>> 99 TJ SE
>>
>>

>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/




L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 06-12-2005 10:51 PM

Re: What brand of gears should I use?
 
Can you afford not to? I mean look at that puny thing:
http://www.4x4wire.com/jeep/reviews/488/Dcp01459.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Eric wrote:
>
> C'mon Bill... not everyone can afford a "new" axle AND gears (good luck
> finding a D44 already geared to 4.88). I'm not looking to compete here, and
> I'm pretty easy on the throttle. Not looking to build a monster, but trying
> to improve my daily driving and get a lower first gear.
>
> Besides, I wheel with a number of guys who have the D35c w/4.88s. Some of
> them for years. And no one has had any problems. Yes, I know they break.
> I know they're a terrible axle. When I break it, I'll upgrade to a D44 or
> 8.8. Until then...
>
> Eric


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 06-12-2005 10:51 PM

Re: What brand of gears should I use?
 
Can you afford not to? I mean look at that puny thing:
http://www.4x4wire.com/jeep/reviews/488/Dcp01459.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Eric wrote:
>
> C'mon Bill... not everyone can afford a "new" axle AND gears (good luck
> finding a D44 already geared to 4.88). I'm not looking to compete here, and
> I'm pretty easy on the throttle. Not looking to build a monster, but trying
> to improve my daily driving and get a lower first gear.
>
> Besides, I wheel with a number of guys who have the D35c w/4.88s. Some of
> them for years. And no one has had any problems. Yes, I know they break.
> I know they're a terrible axle. When I break it, I'll upgrade to a D44 or
> 8.8. Until then...
>
> Eric


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 06-12-2005 10:51 PM

Re: What brand of gears should I use?
 
Can you afford not to? I mean look at that puny thing:
http://www.4x4wire.com/jeep/reviews/488/Dcp01459.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Eric wrote:
>
> C'mon Bill... not everyone can afford a "new" axle AND gears (good luck
> finding a D44 already geared to 4.88). I'm not looking to compete here, and
> I'm pretty easy on the throttle. Not looking to build a monster, but trying
> to improve my daily driving and get a lower first gear.
>
> Besides, I wheel with a number of guys who have the D35c w/4.88s. Some of
> them for years. And no one has had any problems. Yes, I know they break.
> I know they're a terrible axle. When I break it, I'll upgrade to a D44 or
> 8.8. Until then...
>
> Eric



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