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John Welch 11-28-2003 06:57 PM

Wet braking performance of Procomp tires
 
Looked at a set of 31x10.5 15 Procomp ATs. Salesman said that they
probablly did better at wet stopping than the BFG ATs. I hydroplaned
through an intersection again last time it rained which reminded me
that I need to replace the factory Goodyears which are pretty old by
now. Also, looked at Michelin XCX/APT which are reviewed to be
excellent at resisting hydropalining. I will be taking this tj out
into muddy pasture and down logging roads on a semi-regular basis, but
on the other hand I will be driving it 50 miles a day on freeway.

I don't mind the thought of slowing down and being more careful and
going with a more agressive tread, but I think that since I am going
with 'AT's instead of 'MT's I want to go with the best wet braking
performance. This rig has been rebuilt once after a hydroplane
induced wreck and I would rather not go through that again. So, after
all that thinking out loud what I am really fishing for is any first
hand experiences with the Procomp.
Thanks in advance.
>/<


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 11-28-2003 10:03 PM

Re: Wet braking performance of Procomp tires
 
Out here we have the "Basic Speed Law" which supposed to apply
common sense to the idiot that won't slow down for traffic conditions:
http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/hdbk/pgs6...adjustingspeed So if you
drive 45 MPH in a 55 MPH zone and it's raining, you will get a ticket.
You can't beat the water channels in the BFG AT:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/BigPic...+White+Letters
And quit blaming your driving ability on others:
http://www.----------.com/blame/
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

John Welch wrote:
>
> Looked at a set of 31x10.5 15 Procomp ATs. Salesman said that they
> probablly did better at wet stopping than the BFG ATs. I hydroplaned
> through an intersection again last time it rained which reminded me
> that I need to replace the factory Goodyears which are pretty old by
> now. Also, looked at Michelin XCX/APT which are reviewed to be
> excellent at resisting hydropalining. I will be taking this tj out
> into muddy pasture and down logging roads on a semi-regular basis, but
> on the other hand I will be driving it 50 miles a day on freeway.
>
> I don't mind the thought of slowing down and being more careful and
> going with a more agressive tread, but I think that since I am going
> with 'AT's instead of 'MT's I want to go with the best wet braking
> performance. This rig has been rebuilt once after a hydroplane
> induced wreck and I would rather not go through that again. So, after
> all that thinking out loud what I am really fishing for is any first
> hand experiences with the Procomp.
> Thanks in advance.
> >/<


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 11-28-2003 10:03 PM

Re: Wet braking performance of Procomp tires
 
Out here we have the "Basic Speed Law" which supposed to apply
common sense to the idiot that won't slow down for traffic conditions:
http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/hdbk/pgs6...adjustingspeed So if you
drive 45 MPH in a 55 MPH zone and it's raining, you will get a ticket.
You can't beat the water channels in the BFG AT:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/BigPic...+White+Letters
And quit blaming your driving ability on others:
http://www.----------.com/blame/
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

John Welch wrote:
>
> Looked at a set of 31x10.5 15 Procomp ATs. Salesman said that they
> probablly did better at wet stopping than the BFG ATs. I hydroplaned
> through an intersection again last time it rained which reminded me
> that I need to replace the factory Goodyears which are pretty old by
> now. Also, looked at Michelin XCX/APT which are reviewed to be
> excellent at resisting hydropalining. I will be taking this tj out
> into muddy pasture and down logging roads on a semi-regular basis, but
> on the other hand I will be driving it 50 miles a day on freeway.
>
> I don't mind the thought of slowing down and being more careful and
> going with a more agressive tread, but I think that since I am going
> with 'AT's instead of 'MT's I want to go with the best wet braking
> performance. This rig has been rebuilt once after a hydroplane
> induced wreck and I would rather not go through that again. So, after
> all that thinking out loud what I am really fishing for is any first
> hand experiences with the Procomp.
> Thanks in advance.
> >/<


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 11-28-2003 10:03 PM

Re: Wet braking performance of Procomp tires
 
Out here we have the "Basic Speed Law" which supposed to apply
common sense to the idiot that won't slow down for traffic conditions:
http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/hdbk/pgs6...adjustingspeed So if you
drive 45 MPH in a 55 MPH zone and it's raining, you will get a ticket.
You can't beat the water channels in the BFG AT:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/BigPic...+White+Letters
And quit blaming your driving ability on others:
http://www.----------.com/blame/
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

John Welch wrote:
>
> Looked at a set of 31x10.5 15 Procomp ATs. Salesman said that they
> probablly did better at wet stopping than the BFG ATs. I hydroplaned
> through an intersection again last time it rained which reminded me
> that I need to replace the factory Goodyears which are pretty old by
> now. Also, looked at Michelin XCX/APT which are reviewed to be
> excellent at resisting hydropalining. I will be taking this tj out
> into muddy pasture and down logging roads on a semi-regular basis, but
> on the other hand I will be driving it 50 miles a day on freeway.
>
> I don't mind the thought of slowing down and being more careful and
> going with a more agressive tread, but I think that since I am going
> with 'AT's instead of 'MT's I want to go with the best wet braking
> performance. This rig has been rebuilt once after a hydroplane
> induced wreck and I would rather not go through that again. So, after
> all that thinking out loud what I am really fishing for is any first
> hand experiences with the Procomp.
> Thanks in advance.
> >/<


John Welch 11-29-2003 02:41 PM

Re: Wet braking performance of Procomp tires
 
L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:<3FC80C81.DBA14EA5@cox.net>...
> Out here we have the "Basic Speed Law" which supposed to apply
> common sense to the idiot that won't slow down for traffic conditions:
> http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/hdbk/pgs6...adjustingspeed So if you
> drive 45 MPH in a 55 MPH zone and it's raining, you will get a ticket.

Right. I was doing 45 in a 55, the rain was just enough to have the
wipers on 'delay'. I hit the brakes when the light went yellow and
came to rest square in the middle of the intersection. If I was doing
58 in the 55 I might would have punched it and tried to make through,
but since I was already going slow I decided to risk it and try to
stop.

> You can't beat the water channels in the BFG AT:
> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/BigPic...+White+Letters

This is a cool site. I really like the way it has ratings for the
performance of tires under different conditions so you can compare one
tire to another. Alas, this site does not have carry Pro Comp. I
know that a lot of people in this news group run them so I want to ask
for first hand accounts.

> And quit blaming your driving ability on others:
> http://www.----------.com/blame/

Someone lent me a CD that had a routine by a stand-up named 'Larry the
Cable Guy' who opined that since cigarettes have a warning on the pack
saying that smoking will kill you and people are still suing cigarette
makers that he thought he would file suit against Hustler Magazine for
giving him carparel tunnel syndrome.

John Welch 11-29-2003 02:41 PM

Re: Wet braking performance of Procomp tires
 
L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:<3FC80C81.DBA14EA5@cox.net>...
> Out here we have the "Basic Speed Law" which supposed to apply
> common sense to the idiot that won't slow down for traffic conditions:
> http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/hdbk/pgs6...adjustingspeed So if you
> drive 45 MPH in a 55 MPH zone and it's raining, you will get a ticket.

Right. I was doing 45 in a 55, the rain was just enough to have the
wipers on 'delay'. I hit the brakes when the light went yellow and
came to rest square in the middle of the intersection. If I was doing
58 in the 55 I might would have punched it and tried to make through,
but since I was already going slow I decided to risk it and try to
stop.

> You can't beat the water channels in the BFG AT:
> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/BigPic...+White+Letters

This is a cool site. I really like the way it has ratings for the
performance of tires under different conditions so you can compare one
tire to another. Alas, this site does not have carry Pro Comp. I
know that a lot of people in this news group run them so I want to ask
for first hand accounts.

> And quit blaming your driving ability on others:
> http://www.----------.com/blame/

Someone lent me a CD that had a routine by a stand-up named 'Larry the
Cable Guy' who opined that since cigarettes have a warning on the pack
saying that smoking will kill you and people are still suing cigarette
makers that he thought he would file suit against Hustler Magazine for
giving him carparel tunnel syndrome.

John Welch 11-29-2003 02:41 PM

Re: Wet braking performance of Procomp tires
 
L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:<3FC80C81.DBA14EA5@cox.net>...
> Out here we have the "Basic Speed Law" which supposed to apply
> common sense to the idiot that won't slow down for traffic conditions:
> http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/hdbk/pgs6...adjustingspeed So if you
> drive 45 MPH in a 55 MPH zone and it's raining, you will get a ticket.

Right. I was doing 45 in a 55, the rain was just enough to have the
wipers on 'delay'. I hit the brakes when the light went yellow and
came to rest square in the middle of the intersection. If I was doing
58 in the 55 I might would have punched it and tried to make through,
but since I was already going slow I decided to risk it and try to
stop.

> You can't beat the water channels in the BFG AT:
> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/BigPic...+White+Letters

This is a cool site. I really like the way it has ratings for the
performance of tires under different conditions so you can compare one
tire to another. Alas, this site does not have carry Pro Comp. I
know that a lot of people in this news group run them so I want to ask
for first hand accounts.

> And quit blaming your driving ability on others:
> http://www.----------.com/blame/

Someone lent me a CD that had a routine by a stand-up named 'Larry the
Cable Guy' who opined that since cigarettes have a warning on the pack
saying that smoking will kill you and people are still suing cigarette
makers that he thought he would file suit against Hustler Magazine for
giving him carparel tunnel syndrome.

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 11-29-2003 03:48 PM

Re: Off Topic to assessing blame
 
Or Hustler Magazine for giving him the masturbation syndrome:
http://www.----------.com/masturba.jpeg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

John Welch wrote:
>
> Right. I was doing 45 in a 55, the rain was just enough to have the
> wipers on 'delay'. I hit the brakes when the light went yellow and
> came to rest square in the middle of the intersection. If I was doing
> 58 in the 55 I might would have punched it and tried to make through,
> but since I was already going slow I decided to risk it and try to
> stop.
>
> This is a cool site. I really like the way it has ratings for the
> performance of tires under different conditions so you can compare one
> tire to another. Alas, this site does not have carry Pro Comp. I
> know that a lot of people in this news group run them so I want to ask
> for first hand accounts.
>
> Someone lent me a CD that had a routine by a stand-up named 'Larry the
> Cable Guy' who opined that since cigarettes have a warning on the pack
> saying that smoking will kill you and people are still suing cigarette
> makers that he thought he would file suit against Hustler Magazine for
> giving him carparel tunnel syndrome.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 11-29-2003 03:48 PM

Re: Off Topic to assessing blame
 
Or Hustler Magazine for giving him the masturbation syndrome:
http://www.----------.com/masturba.jpeg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

John Welch wrote:
>
> Right. I was doing 45 in a 55, the rain was just enough to have the
> wipers on 'delay'. I hit the brakes when the light went yellow and
> came to rest square in the middle of the intersection. If I was doing
> 58 in the 55 I might would have punched it and tried to make through,
> but since I was already going slow I decided to risk it and try to
> stop.
>
> This is a cool site. I really like the way it has ratings for the
> performance of tires under different conditions so you can compare one
> tire to another. Alas, this site does not have carry Pro Comp. I
> know that a lot of people in this news group run them so I want to ask
> for first hand accounts.
>
> Someone lent me a CD that had a routine by a stand-up named 'Larry the
> Cable Guy' who opined that since cigarettes have a warning on the pack
> saying that smoking will kill you and people are still suing cigarette
> makers that he thought he would file suit against Hustler Magazine for
> giving him carparel tunnel syndrome.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 11-29-2003 03:48 PM

Re: Off Topic to assessing blame
 
Or Hustler Magazine for giving him the masturbation syndrome:
http://www.----------.com/masturba.jpeg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

John Welch wrote:
>
> Right. I was doing 45 in a 55, the rain was just enough to have the
> wipers on 'delay'. I hit the brakes when the light went yellow and
> came to rest square in the middle of the intersection. If I was doing
> 58 in the 55 I might would have punched it and tried to make through,
> but since I was already going slow I decided to risk it and try to
> stop.
>
> This is a cool site. I really like the way it has ratings for the
> performance of tires under different conditions so you can compare one
> tire to another. Alas, this site does not have carry Pro Comp. I
> know that a lot of people in this news group run them so I want to ask
> for first hand accounts.
>
> Someone lent me a CD that had a routine by a stand-up named 'Larry the
> Cable Guy' who opined that since cigarettes have a warning on the pack
> saying that smoking will kill you and people are still suing cigarette
> makers that he thought he would file suit against Hustler Magazine for
> giving him carparel tunnel syndrome.



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