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Allen 01-15-2004 05:51 PM

Welding Question
 
I'm buying a used pair of nerf bars for my 83CJ. ..this is over the
internet. "IF" for some unseen reason there are no holes to match up on the
frame...is welding an option or would you drill new holes? I hate to weaking
the frame by drilling...but not sure if welding on to a rusty frame is a
good idea. Not to say the frame is ready to fall apart even in the next 5
years...it's fairly solid...possibly average for an 83..maybe a bit better.
So what would you guys suggest??
Allen




Nathan Collier 01-15-2004 05:57 PM

Re: Welding Question
 
i like the welding option, but if youre going to weld it you first need to
relieve the stress off the frame by using multiple jack stands along the
frame rail. people weld them on every day without doing that, but if im
going to weld it im going to do it right. if done properly the bars can
strengthen your frame. if done improperly, they can weaken it worse than
drilling a few holes can.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com


"Allen" <abanks1@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
news:6QENb.2809$Gs2.2008@fe1.columbus.rr.com...
> I'm buying a used pair of nerf bars for my 83CJ. ..this is over the
> internet. "IF" for some unseen reason there are no holes to match up on

the
> frame...is welding an option or would you drill new holes? I hate to

weaking
> the frame by drilling...but not sure if welding on to a rusty frame is a
> good idea. Not to say the frame is ready to fall apart even in the next 5
> years...it's fairly solid...possibly average for an 83..maybe a bit

better.
> So what would you guys suggest??
> Allen
>
>
>




Nathan Collier 01-15-2004 05:57 PM

Re: Welding Question
 
i like the welding option, but if youre going to weld it you first need to
relieve the stress off the frame by using multiple jack stands along the
frame rail. people weld them on every day without doing that, but if im
going to weld it im going to do it right. if done properly the bars can
strengthen your frame. if done improperly, they can weaken it worse than
drilling a few holes can.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com


"Allen" <abanks1@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
news:6QENb.2809$Gs2.2008@fe1.columbus.rr.com...
> I'm buying a used pair of nerf bars for my 83CJ. ..this is over the
> internet. "IF" for some unseen reason there are no holes to match up on

the
> frame...is welding an option or would you drill new holes? I hate to

weaking
> the frame by drilling...but not sure if welding on to a rusty frame is a
> good idea. Not to say the frame is ready to fall apart even in the next 5
> years...it's fairly solid...possibly average for an 83..maybe a bit

better.
> So what would you guys suggest??
> Allen
>
>
>




Nathan Collier 01-15-2004 05:57 PM

Re: Welding Question
 
i like the welding option, but if youre going to weld it you first need to
relieve the stress off the frame by using multiple jack stands along the
frame rail. people weld them on every day without doing that, but if im
going to weld it im going to do it right. if done properly the bars can
strengthen your frame. if done improperly, they can weaken it worse than
drilling a few holes can.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com


"Allen" <abanks1@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
news:6QENb.2809$Gs2.2008@fe1.columbus.rr.com...
> I'm buying a used pair of nerf bars for my 83CJ. ..this is over the
> internet. "IF" for some unseen reason there are no holes to match up on

the
> frame...is welding an option or would you drill new holes? I hate to

weaking
> the frame by drilling...but not sure if welding on to a rusty frame is a
> good idea. Not to say the frame is ready to fall apart even in the next 5
> years...it's fairly solid...possibly average for an 83..maybe a bit

better.
> So what would you guys suggest??
> Allen
>
>
>




JimG 01-15-2004 05:59 PM

Re: Welding Question
 
IMO... You would do more damage to the frame by welding on it. Drill and
bolt on if possible.

--
JimG
80' CJ-7 258 CID
35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries

"Allen" <abanks1@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
news:6QENb.2809$Gs2.2008@fe1.columbus.rr.com...
> I'm buying a used pair of nerf bars for my 83CJ. ..this is over the
> internet. "IF" for some unseen reason there are no holes to match up on

the
> frame...is welding an option or would you drill new holes? I hate to

weaking
> the frame by drilling...but not sure if welding on to a rusty frame is a
> good idea. Not to say the frame is ready to fall apart even in the next 5
> years...it's fairly solid...possibly average for an 83..maybe a bit

better.
> So what would you guys suggest??
> Allen
>
>
>




JimG 01-15-2004 05:59 PM

Re: Welding Question
 
IMO... You would do more damage to the frame by welding on it. Drill and
bolt on if possible.

--
JimG
80' CJ-7 258 CID
35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries

"Allen" <abanks1@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
news:6QENb.2809$Gs2.2008@fe1.columbus.rr.com...
> I'm buying a used pair of nerf bars for my 83CJ. ..this is over the
> internet. "IF" for some unseen reason there are no holes to match up on

the
> frame...is welding an option or would you drill new holes? I hate to

weaking
> the frame by drilling...but not sure if welding on to a rusty frame is a
> good idea. Not to say the frame is ready to fall apart even in the next 5
> years...it's fairly solid...possibly average for an 83..maybe a bit

better.
> So what would you guys suggest??
> Allen
>
>
>




JimG 01-15-2004 05:59 PM

Re: Welding Question
 
IMO... You would do more damage to the frame by welding on it. Drill and
bolt on if possible.

--
JimG
80' CJ-7 258 CID
35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries

"Allen" <abanks1@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
news:6QENb.2809$Gs2.2008@fe1.columbus.rr.com...
> I'm buying a used pair of nerf bars for my 83CJ. ..this is over the
> internet. "IF" for some unseen reason there are no holes to match up on

the
> frame...is welding an option or would you drill new holes? I hate to

weaking
> the frame by drilling...but not sure if welding on to a rusty frame is a
> good idea. Not to say the frame is ready to fall apart even in the next 5
> years...it's fairly solid...possibly average for an 83..maybe a bit

better.
> So what would you guys suggest??
> Allen
>
>
>




JimG 01-15-2004 06:13 PM

Re: Welding Question
 
Hi Nathan,

I was never sure why, but I have always been told not to weld on the frame.
I thought it had something to do with it being hardened steel and the heat
would jeopardize it's integrity. Maybe someone like you can do it without
damage, but the average hobby welder could not.

JimG

"Nathan Collier" <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
news:0VENb.230251$Vu5.17040749@twister.southeast.r r.com...
> i like the welding option, but if youre going to weld it you first need to
> relieve the stress off the frame by using multiple jack stands along the
> frame rail. people weld them on every day without doing that, but if im
> going to weld it im going to do it right. if done properly the bars can
> strengthen your frame. if done improperly, they can weaken it worse than
> drilling a few holes can.
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
>
>
> "Allen" <abanks1@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:6QENb.2809$Gs2.2008@fe1.columbus.rr.com...
> > I'm buying a used pair of nerf bars for my 83CJ. ..this is over the
> > internet. "IF" for some unseen reason there are no holes to match up on

> the
> > frame...is welding an option or would you drill new holes? I hate to

> weaking
> > the frame by drilling...but not sure if welding on to a rusty frame is a
> > good idea. Not to say the frame is ready to fall apart even in the next

5
> > years...it's fairly solid...possibly average for an 83..maybe a bit

> better.
> > So what would you guys suggest??
> > Allen
> >
> >
> >

>
>




JimG 01-15-2004 06:13 PM

Re: Welding Question
 
Hi Nathan,

I was never sure why, but I have always been told not to weld on the frame.
I thought it had something to do with it being hardened steel and the heat
would jeopardize it's integrity. Maybe someone like you can do it without
damage, but the average hobby welder could not.

JimG

"Nathan Collier" <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
news:0VENb.230251$Vu5.17040749@twister.southeast.r r.com...
> i like the welding option, but if youre going to weld it you first need to
> relieve the stress off the frame by using multiple jack stands along the
> frame rail. people weld them on every day without doing that, but if im
> going to weld it im going to do it right. if done properly the bars can
> strengthen your frame. if done improperly, they can weaken it worse than
> drilling a few holes can.
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
>
>
> "Allen" <abanks1@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:6QENb.2809$Gs2.2008@fe1.columbus.rr.com...
> > I'm buying a used pair of nerf bars for my 83CJ. ..this is over the
> > internet. "IF" for some unseen reason there are no holes to match up on

> the
> > frame...is welding an option or would you drill new holes? I hate to

> weaking
> > the frame by drilling...but not sure if welding on to a rusty frame is a
> > good idea. Not to say the frame is ready to fall apart even in the next

5
> > years...it's fairly solid...possibly average for an 83..maybe a bit

> better.
> > So what would you guys suggest??
> > Allen
> >
> >
> >

>
>




JimG 01-15-2004 06:13 PM

Re: Welding Question
 
Hi Nathan,

I was never sure why, but I have always been told not to weld on the frame.
I thought it had something to do with it being hardened steel and the heat
would jeopardize it's integrity. Maybe someone like you can do it without
damage, but the average hobby welder could not.

JimG

"Nathan Collier" <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
news:0VENb.230251$Vu5.17040749@twister.southeast.r r.com...
> i like the welding option, but if youre going to weld it you first need to
> relieve the stress off the frame by using multiple jack stands along the
> frame rail. people weld them on every day without doing that, but if im
> going to weld it im going to do it right. if done properly the bars can
> strengthen your frame. if done improperly, they can weaken it worse than
> drilling a few holes can.
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
>
>
> "Allen" <abanks1@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:6QENb.2809$Gs2.2008@fe1.columbus.rr.com...
> > I'm buying a used pair of nerf bars for my 83CJ. ..this is over the
> > internet. "IF" for some unseen reason there are no holes to match up on

> the
> > frame...is welding an option or would you drill new holes? I hate to

> weaking
> > the frame by drilling...but not sure if welding on to a rusty frame is a
> > good idea. Not to say the frame is ready to fall apart even in the next

5
> > years...it's fairly solid...possibly average for an 83..maybe a bit

> better.
> > So what would you guys suggest??
> > Allen
> >
> >
> >

>
>





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