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Re: Weeping gear oil (rear diff)
jerryg wrote:
> Well took it back to the lube place. They do not remove the cover to > replace the oil. So they put new expensive oil in a filthy housing. > Nice huh? Well its cleaned up now and has 80w90 gear oil in it now. I > hope this takes care of it!! Anyway no more trips to that place again! > Thanks guys for all the input. As well I am going to pick up this > afternoon a 2006 Grand Cherokee. Thanks again to all!! Hmmm. Let me see if I heard this all straight: 1. Skippy Lube puts incorrect/cheap lube in differential case without performing the service properly, and most likely just did a 'pump-n-dump' with a suction gun. 2. You discover that they used incorrect/cheap lube when it all comes foaming out the overflow tube. 3. You then take it BACK to Skippy Lube. 4. After hearing the complaint, Skippy Lube Illiterates tell you they will: a. Not remove the housing cover, clean, inspect and reseal. b. Replace the incorrect/cheap lube with MORE incorrect/cheap lube. c. Send you on your way, presumably fixing the problem. Interesting. I would bet you a week's-pay that they also underfilled it this time around so that the incorrect/cheap lube won't find its way out of the overflow so easiliy, fooling you into thinking they suddendly grew a conscience and were regretful at having performed such deficient service. My advice mirror's others here: do it yourself if you want it done right. It takes about an hour of your time to slide under, disassemble, clean, seal and fill a differential. I would * NEVER * trust Skippy Lube morons with any of my equipment. |
Re: Weeping gear oil (rear diff)
jerryg wrote:
> Well took it back to the lube place. They do not remove the cover to > replace the oil. So they put new expensive oil in a filthy housing. > Nice huh? Well its cleaned up now and has 80w90 gear oil in it now. I > hope this takes care of it!! Anyway no more trips to that place again! > Thanks guys for all the input. As well I am going to pick up this > afternoon a 2006 Grand Cherokee. Thanks again to all!! Hmmm. Let me see if I heard this all straight: 1. Skippy Lube puts incorrect/cheap lube in differential case without performing the service properly, and most likely just did a 'pump-n-dump' with a suction gun. 2. You discover that they used incorrect/cheap lube when it all comes foaming out the overflow tube. 3. You then take it BACK to Skippy Lube. 4. After hearing the complaint, Skippy Lube Illiterates tell you they will: a. Not remove the housing cover, clean, inspect and reseal. b. Replace the incorrect/cheap lube with MORE incorrect/cheap lube. c. Send you on your way, presumably fixing the problem. Interesting. I would bet you a week's-pay that they also underfilled it this time around so that the incorrect/cheap lube won't find its way out of the overflow so easiliy, fooling you into thinking they suddendly grew a conscience and were regretful at having performed such deficient service. My advice mirror's others here: do it yourself if you want it done right. It takes about an hour of your time to slide under, disassemble, clean, seal and fill a differential. I would * NEVER * trust Skippy Lube morons with any of my equipment. |
Re: Weeping gear oil (rear diff)
jerryg wrote:
> Well took it back to the lube place. They do not remove the cover to > replace the oil. So they put new expensive oil in a filthy housing. > Nice huh? Well its cleaned up now and has 80w90 gear oil in it now. I > hope this takes care of it!! Anyway no more trips to that place again! > Thanks guys for all the input. As well I am going to pick up this > afternoon a 2006 Grand Cherokee. Thanks again to all!! Hmmm. Let me see if I heard this all straight: 1. Skippy Lube puts incorrect/cheap lube in differential case without performing the service properly, and most likely just did a 'pump-n-dump' with a suction gun. 2. You discover that they used incorrect/cheap lube when it all comes foaming out the overflow tube. 3. You then take it BACK to Skippy Lube. 4. After hearing the complaint, Skippy Lube Illiterates tell you they will: a. Not remove the housing cover, clean, inspect and reseal. b. Replace the incorrect/cheap lube with MORE incorrect/cheap lube. c. Send you on your way, presumably fixing the problem. Interesting. I would bet you a week's-pay that they also underfilled it this time around so that the incorrect/cheap lube won't find its way out of the overflow so easiliy, fooling you into thinking they suddendly grew a conscience and were regretful at having performed such deficient service. My advice mirror's others here: do it yourself if you want it done right. It takes about an hour of your time to slide under, disassemble, clean, seal and fill a differential. I would * NEVER * trust Skippy Lube morons with any of my equipment. |
Re: Weeping gear oil (rear diff)
Just out of curiosity .... what do these places charge?
"jerryg" <Gregginn7@msn.com> wrote in message news:1166641160.403284.208920@48g2000cwx.googlegro ups.com... > Well took it back to the lube place. They do not remove the cover to > replace the oil. So they put new expensive oil in a filthy housing. > Nice huh? Well its cleaned up now and has 80w90 gear oil in it now. I > hope this takes care of it!! Anyway no more trips to that place again! > Thanks guys for all the input. As well I am going to pick up this > afternoon a 2006 Grand Cherokee. Thanks again to all!! > > Greg > Mike Romain wrote: >> Wrong stuff leaking? >> >> Mike >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! >> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) >> >> jerryg wrote: >> > >> > Still no answer to the question of why does gear oil travel up the vent >> > tube, and leak all over the garage floor. The level in the diff housing >> > is quarter inch below fill hole. Bad oil? bad rear end? pressure? heat? >> > abscense of gravity in that region? >> > >> > Greg > |
Re: Weeping gear oil (rear diff)
Just out of curiosity .... what do these places charge?
"jerryg" <Gregginn7@msn.com> wrote in message news:1166641160.403284.208920@48g2000cwx.googlegro ups.com... > Well took it back to the lube place. They do not remove the cover to > replace the oil. So they put new expensive oil in a filthy housing. > Nice huh? Well its cleaned up now and has 80w90 gear oil in it now. I > hope this takes care of it!! Anyway no more trips to that place again! > Thanks guys for all the input. As well I am going to pick up this > afternoon a 2006 Grand Cherokee. Thanks again to all!! > > Greg > Mike Romain wrote: >> Wrong stuff leaking? >> >> Mike >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! >> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) >> >> jerryg wrote: >> > >> > Still no answer to the question of why does gear oil travel up the vent >> > tube, and leak all over the garage floor. The level in the diff housing >> > is quarter inch below fill hole. Bad oil? bad rear end? pressure? heat? >> > abscense of gravity in that region? >> > >> > Greg > |
Re: Weeping gear oil (rear diff)
Just out of curiosity .... what do these places charge?
"jerryg" <Gregginn7@msn.com> wrote in message news:1166641160.403284.208920@48g2000cwx.googlegro ups.com... > Well took it back to the lube place. They do not remove the cover to > replace the oil. So they put new expensive oil in a filthy housing. > Nice huh? Well its cleaned up now and has 80w90 gear oil in it now. I > hope this takes care of it!! Anyway no more trips to that place again! > Thanks guys for all the input. As well I am going to pick up this > afternoon a 2006 Grand Cherokee. Thanks again to all!! > > Greg > Mike Romain wrote: >> Wrong stuff leaking? >> >> Mike >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! >> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) >> >> jerryg wrote: >> > >> > Still no answer to the question of why does gear oil travel up the vent >> > tube, and leak all over the garage floor. The level in the diff housing >> > is quarter inch below fill hole. Bad oil? bad rear end? pressure? heat? >> > abscense of gravity in that region? >> > >> > Greg > |
Re: Weeping gear oil (rear diff)
I watched them take it apart, clean it and put the proper oil in it.
They did use valvoline oil both times. I wont be going back Outatime wrote: > jerryg wrote: > > > Well took it back to the lube place. They do not remove the cover to > > replace the oil. So they put new expensive oil in a filthy housing. > > Nice huh? Well its cleaned up now and has 80w90 gear oil in it now. I > > hope this takes care of it!! Anyway no more trips to that place again! > > Thanks guys for all the input. As well I am going to pick up this > > afternoon a 2006 Grand Cherokee. Thanks again to all!! > > Hmmm. Let me see if I heard this all straight: > > 1. Skippy Lube puts incorrect/cheap lube in differential case without > performing the service properly, and most likely just did a > 'pump-n-dump' with a suction gun. > > 2. You discover that they used incorrect/cheap lube when it all comes > foaming out the overflow tube. > > 3. You then take it BACK to Skippy Lube. > > 4. After hearing the complaint, Skippy Lube Illiterates tell you they will: > > a. Not remove the housing cover, clean, inspect and reseal. > > b. Replace the incorrect/cheap lube with MORE incorrect/cheap lube. > > c. Send you on your way, presumably fixing the problem. > > Interesting. I would bet you a week's-pay that they also underfilled it > this time around so that the incorrect/cheap lube won't find its way out > of the overflow so easiliy, fooling you into thinking they suddendly > grew a conscience and were regretful at having performed such deficient > service. > > My advice mirror's others here: do it yourself if you want it done > right. It takes about an hour of your time to slide under, disassemble, > clean, seal and fill a differential. I would * NEVER * trust Skippy > Lube morons with any of my equipment. |
Re: Weeping gear oil (rear diff)
I watched them take it apart, clean it and put the proper oil in it.
They did use valvoline oil both times. I wont be going back Outatime wrote: > jerryg wrote: > > > Well took it back to the lube place. They do not remove the cover to > > replace the oil. So they put new expensive oil in a filthy housing. > > Nice huh? Well its cleaned up now and has 80w90 gear oil in it now. I > > hope this takes care of it!! Anyway no more trips to that place again! > > Thanks guys for all the input. As well I am going to pick up this > > afternoon a 2006 Grand Cherokee. Thanks again to all!! > > Hmmm. Let me see if I heard this all straight: > > 1. Skippy Lube puts incorrect/cheap lube in differential case without > performing the service properly, and most likely just did a > 'pump-n-dump' with a suction gun. > > 2. You discover that they used incorrect/cheap lube when it all comes > foaming out the overflow tube. > > 3. You then take it BACK to Skippy Lube. > > 4. After hearing the complaint, Skippy Lube Illiterates tell you they will: > > a. Not remove the housing cover, clean, inspect and reseal. > > b. Replace the incorrect/cheap lube with MORE incorrect/cheap lube. > > c. Send you on your way, presumably fixing the problem. > > Interesting. I would bet you a week's-pay that they also underfilled it > this time around so that the incorrect/cheap lube won't find its way out > of the overflow so easiliy, fooling you into thinking they suddendly > grew a conscience and were regretful at having performed such deficient > service. > > My advice mirror's others here: do it yourself if you want it done > right. It takes about an hour of your time to slide under, disassemble, > clean, seal and fill a differential. I would * NEVER * trust Skippy > Lube morons with any of my equipment. |
Re: Weeping gear oil (rear diff)
I watched them take it apart, clean it and put the proper oil in it.
They did use valvoline oil both times. I wont be going back Outatime wrote: > jerryg wrote: > > > Well took it back to the lube place. They do not remove the cover to > > replace the oil. So they put new expensive oil in a filthy housing. > > Nice huh? Well its cleaned up now and has 80w90 gear oil in it now. I > > hope this takes care of it!! Anyway no more trips to that place again! > > Thanks guys for all the input. As well I am going to pick up this > > afternoon a 2006 Grand Cherokee. Thanks again to all!! > > Hmmm. Let me see if I heard this all straight: > > 1. Skippy Lube puts incorrect/cheap lube in differential case without > performing the service properly, and most likely just did a > 'pump-n-dump' with a suction gun. > > 2. You discover that they used incorrect/cheap lube when it all comes > foaming out the overflow tube. > > 3. You then take it BACK to Skippy Lube. > > 4. After hearing the complaint, Skippy Lube Illiterates tell you they will: > > a. Not remove the housing cover, clean, inspect and reseal. > > b. Replace the incorrect/cheap lube with MORE incorrect/cheap lube. > > c. Send you on your way, presumably fixing the problem. > > Interesting. I would bet you a week's-pay that they also underfilled it > this time around so that the incorrect/cheap lube won't find its way out > of the overflow so easiliy, fooling you into thinking they suddendly > grew a conscience and were regretful at having performed such deficient > service. > > My advice mirror's others here: do it yourself if you want it done > right. It takes about an hour of your time to slide under, disassemble, > clean, seal and fill a differential. I would * NEVER * trust Skippy > Lube morons with any of my equipment. |
Re: Weeping gear oil (rear diff)
jerryg wrote:
> I watched them take it apart, clean it and put the proper oil in it. > They did use valvoline oil both times. I wont be going back Oh, they actually popped the cover and cleaned everything up first? Good deal. I doubt they do this unless you're watching AND complain when they do a typical pump-n-dump. True story: my late Father-in-law watched a Skippy Lube outfit change the oil filter then add one quart of oil to top off. THAT is what they consider an "Oil Change" around here. I've seen worse. Much worse. You'd do well to avoid them altogether. |
Re: Weeping gear oil (rear diff)
jerryg wrote:
> I watched them take it apart, clean it and put the proper oil in it. > They did use valvoline oil both times. I wont be going back Oh, they actually popped the cover and cleaned everything up first? Good deal. I doubt they do this unless you're watching AND complain when they do a typical pump-n-dump. True story: my late Father-in-law watched a Skippy Lube outfit change the oil filter then add one quart of oil to top off. THAT is what they consider an "Oil Change" around here. I've seen worse. Much worse. You'd do well to avoid them altogether. |
Re: Weeping gear oil (rear diff)
jerryg wrote:
> I watched them take it apart, clean it and put the proper oil in it. > They did use valvoline oil both times. I wont be going back Oh, they actually popped the cover and cleaned everything up first? Good deal. I doubt they do this unless you're watching AND complain when they do a typical pump-n-dump. True story: my late Father-in-law watched a Skippy Lube outfit change the oil filter then add one quart of oil to top off. THAT is what they consider an "Oil Change" around here. I've seen worse. Much worse. You'd do well to avoid them altogether. |
Re: Weeping gear oil (rear diff)
On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 22:06:25 -0700, "Earle Horton"
<anglocapitalista@usa.com> wrote: >Heh, I am thinking that there is a chance they put engine oil in there by >mistake. I think you want to calmly explain to the lube shop service >manager what you told us, and that it started when you had them service the >vehicle. Then maybe he can figure something out. All he has to do is smell it. Engine oil and gear oil smell differently. And good gear oil has a strong odor. Dan > >Earle > >"jerryg" <Gregginn7@msn.com> wrote in message >news:1166590154.153606.319970@73g2000cwn.googlegr oups.com... >> As well, in the last three weeks, we have had no precipitation, and I >> don't drive it through any water. I don't get it!! >> >> Greg >> jerryg wrote: >> > It was just changed three weeks ago, could it be that bad?? >> > >> > Thanks guys, >> > >> > Greg >> > Earle Horton wrote: >> > > That's what I'm thinking too. The fix is to remove the cover, clean >the >> > > contaminated fluid out, and put fresh fluid of the correct type in >there. >> > > Removing all of the contaminated fluid can be a problem, depending on >what >> > > is actually in it. I think the real question is, "What did the local >quick >> > > lube place do to this poor fellow's vehicle?" >> > > >> > > It's messy to change your own fluids, but then again this sort of >thing >> > > hardly ever happens when you do. >> > > >> > > Earle >> > > >> > > "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message >> > > news:4588BC31.1D8E3ADC@cox.net... >> > > > It is contaminated, usually from water. >> > > > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O >> > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ >> > > > >> > > > jerryg wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > > Still no answer to the question of why does gear oil travel up the >vent >> > > > > tube, and leak all over the garage floor. The level in the diff >housing >> > > > > is quarter inch below fill hole. Bad oil? bad rear end? pressure? >heat? >> > > > > abscense of gravity in that region? >> > > > > >> > > > > Greg >> > |
Re: Weeping gear oil (rear diff)
On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 22:06:25 -0700, "Earle Horton"
<anglocapitalista@usa.com> wrote: >Heh, I am thinking that there is a chance they put engine oil in there by >mistake. I think you want to calmly explain to the lube shop service >manager what you told us, and that it started when you had them service the >vehicle. Then maybe he can figure something out. All he has to do is smell it. Engine oil and gear oil smell differently. And good gear oil has a strong odor. Dan > >Earle > >"jerryg" <Gregginn7@msn.com> wrote in message >news:1166590154.153606.319970@73g2000cwn.googlegr oups.com... >> As well, in the last three weeks, we have had no precipitation, and I >> don't drive it through any water. I don't get it!! >> >> Greg >> jerryg wrote: >> > It was just changed three weeks ago, could it be that bad?? >> > >> > Thanks guys, >> > >> > Greg >> > Earle Horton wrote: >> > > That's what I'm thinking too. The fix is to remove the cover, clean >the >> > > contaminated fluid out, and put fresh fluid of the correct type in >there. >> > > Removing all of the contaminated fluid can be a problem, depending on >what >> > > is actually in it. I think the real question is, "What did the local >quick >> > > lube place do to this poor fellow's vehicle?" >> > > >> > > It's messy to change your own fluids, but then again this sort of >thing >> > > hardly ever happens when you do. >> > > >> > > Earle >> > > >> > > "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message >> > > news:4588BC31.1D8E3ADC@cox.net... >> > > > It is contaminated, usually from water. >> > > > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O >> > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ >> > > > >> > > > jerryg wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > > Still no answer to the question of why does gear oil travel up the >vent >> > > > > tube, and leak all over the garage floor. The level in the diff >housing >> > > > > is quarter inch below fill hole. Bad oil? bad rear end? pressure? >heat? >> > > > > abscense of gravity in that region? >> > > > > >> > > > > Greg >> > |
Re: Weeping gear oil (rear diff)
On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 22:06:25 -0700, "Earle Horton"
<anglocapitalista@usa.com> wrote: >Heh, I am thinking that there is a chance they put engine oil in there by >mistake. I think you want to calmly explain to the lube shop service >manager what you told us, and that it started when you had them service the >vehicle. Then maybe he can figure something out. All he has to do is smell it. Engine oil and gear oil smell differently. And good gear oil has a strong odor. Dan > >Earle > >"jerryg" <Gregginn7@msn.com> wrote in message >news:1166590154.153606.319970@73g2000cwn.googlegr oups.com... >> As well, in the last three weeks, we have had no precipitation, and I >> don't drive it through any water. I don't get it!! >> >> Greg >> jerryg wrote: >> > It was just changed three weeks ago, could it be that bad?? >> > >> > Thanks guys, >> > >> > Greg >> > Earle Horton wrote: >> > > That's what I'm thinking too. The fix is to remove the cover, clean >the >> > > contaminated fluid out, and put fresh fluid of the correct type in >there. >> > > Removing all of the contaminated fluid can be a problem, depending on >what >> > > is actually in it. I think the real question is, "What did the local >quick >> > > lube place do to this poor fellow's vehicle?" >> > > >> > > It's messy to change your own fluids, but then again this sort of >thing >> > > hardly ever happens when you do. >> > > >> > > Earle >> > > >> > > "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message >> > > news:4588BC31.1D8E3ADC@cox.net... >> > > > It is contaminated, usually from water. >> > > > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O >> > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ >> > > > >> > > > jerryg wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > > Still no answer to the question of why does gear oil travel up the >vent >> > > > > tube, and leak all over the garage floor. The level in the diff >housing >> > > > > is quarter inch below fill hole. Bad oil? bad rear end? pressure? >heat? >> > > > > abscense of gravity in that region? >> > > > > >> > > > > Greg >> > |
Re: Weeping gear oil (rear diff)
On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 00:07:32 -0500, "billy ray"
<billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote: >I think what everyone is trying to tell you is either take it back to >quickie lube and have them do it correctly with gear lube that isn't derived >from Red Chinese recycled waste tractor oil or buy some American made gear >lube and do it correctly yourself. > >In either case you need to actually have the differential open. To do that >you have to remove the 10 bolts that hold the cover on so you can look >inside and see what is going on. You do not want to just drain and refill >through the fill hole. > >All you need is a wrench and a tube of RTV. > >If you do go to quickie lube take your lawn chair open it up and watch as >the tech works.... better yet take a video camera and film everything he >does and get close-ups of the labels on all the containers they use.... There probably isn't one he could see-they probably buy it in bulk, in barrels, and pump it in through a tube. Dan > > > >"jerryg" <Gregginn7@msn.com> wrote in message >news:1166590154.153606.319970@73g2000cwn.googlegr oups.com... >> As well, in the last three weeks, we have had no precipitation, and I >> don't drive it through any water. I don't get it!! >> >> Greg >> jerryg wrote: >>> It was just changed three weeks ago, could it be that bad?? >>> >>> Thanks guys, >>> >>> Greg >>> Earle Horton wrote: >>> > That's what I'm thinking too. The fix is to remove the cover, clean >>> > the >>> > contaminated fluid out, and put fresh fluid of the correct type in >>> > there. >>> > Removing all of the contaminated fluid can be a problem, depending on >>> > what >>> > is actually in it. I think the real question is, "What did the local >>> > quick >>> > lube place do to this poor fellow's vehicle?" >>> > >>> > It's messy to change your own fluids, but then again this sort of thing >>> > hardly ever happens when you do. >>> > >>> > Earle >>> > >>> > "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message >>> > news:4588BC31.1D8E3ADC@cox.net... >>> > > It is contaminated, usually from water. >>> > > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O >>> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ >>> > > >>> > > jerryg wrote: >>> > > > >>> > > > Still no answer to the question of why does gear oil travel up the >>> > > > vent >>> > > > tube, and leak all over the garage floor. The level in the diff >>> > > > housing >>> > > > is quarter inch below fill hole. Bad oil? bad rear end? pressure? >>> > > > heat? >>> > > > abscense of gravity in that region? >>> > > > >>> > > > Greg >> > |
Re: Weeping gear oil (rear diff)
On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 00:07:32 -0500, "billy ray"
<billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote: >I think what everyone is trying to tell you is either take it back to >quickie lube and have them do it correctly with gear lube that isn't derived >from Red Chinese recycled waste tractor oil or buy some American made gear >lube and do it correctly yourself. > >In either case you need to actually have the differential open. To do that >you have to remove the 10 bolts that hold the cover on so you can look >inside and see what is going on. You do not want to just drain and refill >through the fill hole. > >All you need is a wrench and a tube of RTV. > >If you do go to quickie lube take your lawn chair open it up and watch as >the tech works.... better yet take a video camera and film everything he >does and get close-ups of the labels on all the containers they use.... There probably isn't one he could see-they probably buy it in bulk, in barrels, and pump it in through a tube. Dan > > > >"jerryg" <Gregginn7@msn.com> wrote in message >news:1166590154.153606.319970@73g2000cwn.googlegr oups.com... >> As well, in the last three weeks, we have had no precipitation, and I >> don't drive it through any water. I don't get it!! >> >> Greg >> jerryg wrote: >>> It was just changed three weeks ago, could it be that bad?? >>> >>> Thanks guys, >>> >>> Greg >>> Earle Horton wrote: >>> > That's what I'm thinking too. The fix is to remove the cover, clean >>> > the >>> > contaminated fluid out, and put fresh fluid of the correct type in >>> > there. >>> > Removing all of the contaminated fluid can be a problem, depending on >>> > what >>> > is actually in it. I think the real question is, "What did the local >>> > quick >>> > lube place do to this poor fellow's vehicle?" >>> > >>> > It's messy to change your own fluids, but then again this sort of thing >>> > hardly ever happens when you do. >>> > >>> > Earle >>> > >>> > "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message >>> > news:4588BC31.1D8E3ADC@cox.net... >>> > > It is contaminated, usually from water. >>> > > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O >>> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ >>> > > >>> > > jerryg wrote: >>> > > > >>> > > > Still no answer to the question of why does gear oil travel up the >>> > > > vent >>> > > > tube, and leak all over the garage floor. The level in the diff >>> > > > housing >>> > > > is quarter inch below fill hole. Bad oil? bad rear end? pressure? >>> > > > heat? >>> > > > abscense of gravity in that region? >>> > > > >>> > > > Greg >> > |
Re: Weeping gear oil (rear diff)
On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 00:07:32 -0500, "billy ray"
<billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote: >I think what everyone is trying to tell you is either take it back to >quickie lube and have them do it correctly with gear lube that isn't derived >from Red Chinese recycled waste tractor oil or buy some American made gear >lube and do it correctly yourself. > >In either case you need to actually have the differential open. To do that >you have to remove the 10 bolts that hold the cover on so you can look >inside and see what is going on. You do not want to just drain and refill >through the fill hole. > >All you need is a wrench and a tube of RTV. > >If you do go to quickie lube take your lawn chair open it up and watch as >the tech works.... better yet take a video camera and film everything he >does and get close-ups of the labels on all the containers they use.... There probably isn't one he could see-they probably buy it in bulk, in barrels, and pump it in through a tube. Dan > > > >"jerryg" <Gregginn7@msn.com> wrote in message >news:1166590154.153606.319970@73g2000cwn.googlegr oups.com... >> As well, in the last three weeks, we have had no precipitation, and I >> don't drive it through any water. I don't get it!! >> >> Greg >> jerryg wrote: >>> It was just changed three weeks ago, could it be that bad?? >>> >>> Thanks guys, >>> >>> Greg >>> Earle Horton wrote: >>> > That's what I'm thinking too. The fix is to remove the cover, clean >>> > the >>> > contaminated fluid out, and put fresh fluid of the correct type in >>> > there. >>> > Removing all of the contaminated fluid can be a problem, depending on >>> > what >>> > is actually in it. I think the real question is, "What did the local >>> > quick >>> > lube place do to this poor fellow's vehicle?" >>> > >>> > It's messy to change your own fluids, but then again this sort of thing >>> > hardly ever happens when you do. >>> > >>> > Earle >>> > >>> > "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message >>> > news:4588BC31.1D8E3ADC@cox.net... >>> > > It is contaminated, usually from water. >>> > > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O >>> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ >>> > > >>> > > jerryg wrote: >>> > > > >>> > > > Still no answer to the question of why does gear oil travel up the >>> > > > vent >>> > > > tube, and leak all over the garage floor. The level in the diff >>> > > > housing >>> > > > is quarter inch below fill hole. Bad oil? bad rear end? pressure? >>> > > > heat? >>> > > > abscense of gravity in that region? >>> > > > >>> > > > Greg >> > |
Re: Weeping gear oil (rear diff)
"Hootowl" <ELN/zooo@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:7fnjo2h85oi5jvamgjddrtil4hdg0q618f@4ax.com... > On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 00:07:32 -0500, "billy ray" > <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote: .... > >If you do go to quickie lube take your lawn chair open it up and > >watch as the tech works.... better yet take a video camera and > >film everything he does and get close-ups of the labels on all the > >containers they use.... > > There probably isn't one he could see-they probably buy it in bulk, in > barrels, and pump it in through a tube. > This is true even if they use the good stuff. Earle |
Re: Weeping gear oil (rear diff)
"Hootowl" <ELN/zooo@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:7fnjo2h85oi5jvamgjddrtil4hdg0q618f@4ax.com... > On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 00:07:32 -0500, "billy ray" > <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote: .... > >If you do go to quickie lube take your lawn chair open it up and > >watch as the tech works.... better yet take a video camera and > >film everything he does and get close-ups of the labels on all the > >containers they use.... > > There probably isn't one he could see-they probably buy it in bulk, in > barrels, and pump it in through a tube. > This is true even if they use the good stuff. Earle |
Re: Weeping gear oil (rear diff)
"Hootowl" <ELN/zooo@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:7fnjo2h85oi5jvamgjddrtil4hdg0q618f@4ax.com... > On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 00:07:32 -0500, "billy ray" > <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote: .... > >If you do go to quickie lube take your lawn chair open it up and > >watch as the tech works.... better yet take a video camera and > >film everything he does and get close-ups of the labels on all the > >containers they use.... > > There probably isn't one he could see-they probably buy it in bulk, in > barrels, and pump it in through a tube. > This is true even if they use the good stuff. Earle |
Re: Weeping gear oil (rear diff)
I worked at jiffy lube in a Northeastern PA city a long time ago
(1988) and can say honestly "NONE" of that went on way back then. Also the same franchise here is run by the same family since then. I am hoping the url is just LA. On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 00:28:06 -0500, "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote: >This is how the Quickie Lubes do business. Unfortunately this behavior is >not the exception, it is the norm..... > >http://www.nbc4.tv/mechanicinvestiga...04/detail.html > >I understand you may not want to do some maintenance work yourself. Find >yourself an honest mechanic in your neighborhood and have him do it... > >"jerryg" <Gregginn7@msn.com> wrote in message >news:1166591391.592653.278300@80g2000cwy.googlegr oups.com... >> Wow thats good news! >> billy ray wrote: >>> I think what everyone is trying to tell you is either take it back to >>> quickie lube and have them do it correctly with gear lube that isn't >>> derived >>> from Red Chinese recycled waste tractor oil or buy some American made >>> gear >>> lube and do it correctly yourself. >>> >>> In either case you need to actually have the differential open. To do >>> that >>> you have to remove the 10 bolts that hold the cover on so you can look >>> inside and see what is going on. You do not want to just drain and >>> refill >>> through the fill hole. >>> >>> All you need is a wrench and a tube of RTV. >>> >>> If you do go to quickie lube take your lawn chair open it up and watch as >>> the tech works.... better yet take a video camera and film everything he >>> does and get close-ups of the labels on all the containers they use.... >>> >>> >>> >>> "jerryg" <Gregginn7@msn.com> wrote in message >>> news:1166590154.153606.319970@73g2000cwn.googlegro ups.com... >>> > As well, in the last three weeks, we have had no precipitation, and I >>> > don't drive it through any water. I don't get it!! >>> > >>> > Greg >>> > jerryg wrote: >>> >> It was just changed three weeks ago, could it be that bad?? >>> >> >>> >> Thanks guys, >>> >> >>> >> Greg >>> >> Earle Horton wrote: >>> >> > That's what I'm thinking too. The fix is to remove the cover, clean >>> >> > the >>> >> > contaminated fluid out, and put fresh fluid of the correct type in >>> >> > there. >>> >> > Removing all of the contaminated fluid can be a problem, depending >>> >> > on >>> >> > what >>> >> > is actually in it. I think the real question is, "What did the >>> >> > local >>> >> > quick >>> >> > lube place do to this poor fellow's vehicle?" >>> >> > >>> >> > It's messy to change your own fluids, but then again this sort of >>> >> > thing >>> >> > hardly ever happens when you do. >>> >> > >>> >> > Earle >>> >> > >>> >> > "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message >>> >> > news:4588BC31.1D8E3ADC@cox.net... >>> >> > > It is contaminated, usually from water. >>> >> > > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O >>> >> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ >>> >> > > >>> >> > > jerryg wrote: >>> >> > > > >>> >> > > > Still no answer to the question of why does gear oil travel up >>> >> > > > the >>> >> > > > vent >>> >> > > > tube, and leak all over the garage floor. The level in the diff >>> >> > > > housing >>> >> > > > is quarter inch below fill hole. Bad oil? bad rear end? >>> >> > > > pressure? >>> >> > > > heat? >>> >> > > > abscense of gravity in that region? >>> >> > > > >>> >> > > > Greg >>> > >> > |
Re: Weeping gear oil (rear diff)
I worked at jiffy lube in a Northeastern PA city a long time ago
(1988) and can say honestly "NONE" of that went on way back then. Also the same franchise here is run by the same family since then. I am hoping the url is just LA. On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 00:28:06 -0500, "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote: >This is how the Quickie Lubes do business. Unfortunately this behavior is >not the exception, it is the norm..... > >http://www.nbc4.tv/mechanicinvestiga...04/detail.html > >I understand you may not want to do some maintenance work yourself. Find >yourself an honest mechanic in your neighborhood and have him do it... > >"jerryg" <Gregginn7@msn.com> wrote in message >news:1166591391.592653.278300@80g2000cwy.googlegr oups.com... >> Wow thats good news! >> billy ray wrote: >>> I think what everyone is trying to tell you is either take it back to >>> quickie lube and have them do it correctly with gear lube that isn't >>> derived >>> from Red Chinese recycled waste tractor oil or buy some American made >>> gear >>> lube and do it correctly yourself. >>> >>> In either case you need to actually have the differential open. To do >>> that >>> you have to remove the 10 bolts that hold the cover on so you can look >>> inside and see what is going on. You do not want to just drain and >>> refill >>> through the fill hole. >>> >>> All you need is a wrench and a tube of RTV. >>> >>> If you do go to quickie lube take your lawn chair open it up and watch as >>> the tech works.... better yet take a video camera and film everything he >>> does and get close-ups of the labels on all the containers they use.... >>> >>> >>> >>> "jerryg" <Gregginn7@msn.com> wrote in message >>> news:1166590154.153606.319970@73g2000cwn.googlegro ups.com... >>> > As well, in the last three weeks, we have had no precipitation, and I >>> > don't drive it through any water. I don't get it!! >>> > >>> > Greg >>> > jerryg wrote: >>> >> It was just changed three weeks ago, could it be that bad?? >>> >> >>> >> Thanks guys, >>> >> >>> >> Greg >>> >> Earle Horton wrote: >>> >> > That's what I'm thinking too. The fix is to remove the cover, clean >>> >> > the >>> >> > contaminated fluid out, and put fresh fluid of the correct type in >>> >> > there. >>> >> > Removing all of the contaminated fluid can be a problem, depending >>> >> > on >>> >> > what >>> >> > is actually in it. I think the real question is, "What did the >>> >> > local >>> >> > quick >>> >> > lube place do to this poor fellow's vehicle?" >>> >> > >>> >> > It's messy to change your own fluids, but then again this sort of >>> >> > thing >>> >> > hardly ever happens when you do. >>> >> > >>> >> > Earle >>> >> > >>> >> > "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message >>> >> > news:4588BC31.1D8E3ADC@cox.net... >>> >> > > It is contaminated, usually from water. >>> >> > > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O >>> >> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ >>> >> > > >>> >> > > jerryg wrote: >>> >> > > > >>> >> > > > Still no answer to the question of why does gear oil travel up >>> >> > > > the >>> >> > > > vent >>> >> > > > tube, and leak all over the garage floor. The level in the diff >>> >> > > > housing >>> >> > > > is quarter inch below fill hole. Bad oil? bad rear end? >>> >> > > > pressure? >>> >> > > > heat? >>> >> > > > abscense of gravity in that region? >>> >> > > > >>> >> > > > Greg >>> > >> > |
Re: Weeping gear oil (rear diff)
I worked at jiffy lube in a Northeastern PA city a long time ago
(1988) and can say honestly "NONE" of that went on way back then. Also the same franchise here is run by the same family since then. I am hoping the url is just LA. On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 00:28:06 -0500, "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote: >This is how the Quickie Lubes do business. Unfortunately this behavior is >not the exception, it is the norm..... > >http://www.nbc4.tv/mechanicinvestiga...04/detail.html > >I understand you may not want to do some maintenance work yourself. Find >yourself an honest mechanic in your neighborhood and have him do it... > >"jerryg" <Gregginn7@msn.com> wrote in message >news:1166591391.592653.278300@80g2000cwy.googlegr oups.com... >> Wow thats good news! >> billy ray wrote: >>> I think what everyone is trying to tell you is either take it back to >>> quickie lube and have them do it correctly with gear lube that isn't >>> derived >>> from Red Chinese recycled waste tractor oil or buy some American made >>> gear >>> lube and do it correctly yourself. >>> >>> In either case you need to actually have the differential open. To do >>> that >>> you have to remove the 10 bolts that hold the cover on so you can look >>> inside and see what is going on. You do not want to just drain and >>> refill >>> through the fill hole. >>> >>> All you need is a wrench and a tube of RTV. >>> >>> If you do go to quickie lube take your lawn chair open it up and watch as >>> the tech works.... better yet take a video camera and film everything he >>> does and get close-ups of the labels on all the containers they use.... >>> >>> >>> >>> "jerryg" <Gregginn7@msn.com> wrote in message >>> news:1166590154.153606.319970@73g2000cwn.googlegro ups.com... >>> > As well, in the last three weeks, we have had no precipitation, and I >>> > don't drive it through any water. I don't get it!! >>> > >>> > Greg >>> > jerryg wrote: >>> >> It was just changed three weeks ago, could it be that bad?? >>> >> >>> >> Thanks guys, >>> >> >>> >> Greg >>> >> Earle Horton wrote: >>> >> > That's what I'm thinking too. The fix is to remove the cover, clean >>> >> > the >>> >> > contaminated fluid out, and put fresh fluid of the correct type in >>> >> > there. >>> >> > Removing all of the contaminated fluid can be a problem, depending >>> >> > on >>> >> > what >>> >> > is actually in it. I think the real question is, "What did the >>> >> > local >>> >> > quick >>> >> > lube place do to this poor fellow's vehicle?" >>> >> > >>> >> > It's messy to change your own fluids, but then again this sort of >>> >> > thing >>> >> > hardly ever happens when you do. >>> >> > >>> >> > Earle >>> >> > >>> >> > "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message >>> >> > news:4588BC31.1D8E3ADC@cox.net... >>> >> > > It is contaminated, usually from water. >>> >> > > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O >>> >> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ >>> >> > > >>> >> > > jerryg wrote: >>> >> > > > >>> >> > > > Still no answer to the question of why does gear oil travel up >>> >> > > > the >>> >> > > > vent >>> >> > > > tube, and leak all over the garage floor. The level in the diff >>> >> > > > housing >>> >> > > > is quarter inch below fill hole. Bad oil? bad rear end? >>> >> > > > pressure? >>> >> > > > heat? >>> >> > > > abscense of gravity in that region? >>> >> > > > >>> >> > > > Greg >>> > >> > |
Re: Weeping gear oil (rear diff)
We have a local Canadian Tire 'fast' lube change place where the pit has
a glass wall and the waiting room is at this wall. You can watch everything. They offer two services for the diffs. One is a pump and dump for $25.00 I think and the other is the cover removal and clean and fill for $40.00 all including gear oil. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) Outatime wrote: > > jerryg wrote: > > > I watched them take it apart, clean it and put the proper oil in it. > > They did use valvoline oil both times. I wont be going back > > Oh, they actually popped the cover and cleaned everything up first? > Good deal. I doubt they do this unless you're watching AND complain > when they do a typical pump-n-dump. > > True story: my late Father-in-law watched a Skippy Lube outfit change > the oil filter then add one quart of oil to top off. THAT is what they > consider an "Oil Change" around here. I've seen worse. Much worse. > You'd do well to avoid them altogether. |
Re: Weeping gear oil (rear diff)
We have a local Canadian Tire 'fast' lube change place where the pit has
a glass wall and the waiting room is at this wall. You can watch everything. They offer two services for the diffs. One is a pump and dump for $25.00 I think and the other is the cover removal and clean and fill for $40.00 all including gear oil. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) Outatime wrote: > > jerryg wrote: > > > I watched them take it apart, clean it and put the proper oil in it. > > They did use valvoline oil both times. I wont be going back > > Oh, they actually popped the cover and cleaned everything up first? > Good deal. I doubt they do this unless you're watching AND complain > when they do a typical pump-n-dump. > > True story: my late Father-in-law watched a Skippy Lube outfit change > the oil filter then add one quart of oil to top off. THAT is what they > consider an "Oil Change" around here. I've seen worse. Much worse. > You'd do well to avoid them altogether. |
Re: Weeping gear oil (rear diff)
We have a local Canadian Tire 'fast' lube change place where the pit has
a glass wall and the waiting room is at this wall. You can watch everything. They offer two services for the diffs. One is a pump and dump for $25.00 I think and the other is the cover removal and clean and fill for $40.00 all including gear oil. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) Outatime wrote: > > jerryg wrote: > > > I watched them take it apart, clean it and put the proper oil in it. > > They did use valvoline oil both times. I wont be going back > > Oh, they actually popped the cover and cleaned everything up first? > Good deal. I doubt they do this unless you're watching AND complain > when they do a typical pump-n-dump. > > True story: my late Father-in-law watched a Skippy Lube outfit change > the oil filter then add one quart of oil to top off. THAT is what they > consider an "Oil Change" around here. I've seen worse. Much worse. > You'd do well to avoid them altogether. |
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