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big95yj 05-05-2005 09:36 PM

Ways around emssion laws???
 
Hi there. I have a '95 YJ that I am planning an engine conversion for.
I purchased an '88 wrecked Ford Bronco with a 351W fuel injected for
$250. I am planning the engine for the Jeep. While I am ripping all the
wiring and emissions components out of the Bronco, I am seriously
considering ditching the fuel injection and emissions stuff and going
carbuerated. The only problem is I live in Joliet, IL where emissions
testing catches up with you every couple of years. I would like to
still be able to cruise around in the converted Jeep, but not have the
hastle of emissions testing. Does anyone know a legitemet way to avoid
such testing? (such as insuring the vehicle as a recreational vehicle
or something) I would appreciate any help I could get. Thanks.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 05-05-2005 10:39 PM

Re: Ways around emssion laws???
 
Nope, when this smog stuff first started, I tried to license an
engine less van as a trailer, to no avail, would have been neat,
lockable five door access.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

big95yj wrote:
>
> Hi there. I have a '95 YJ that I am planning an engine conversion for.
> I purchased an '88 wrecked Ford Bronco with a 351W fuel injected for
> $250. I am planning the engine for the Jeep. While I am ripping all the
> wiring and emissions components out of the Bronco, I am seriously
> considering ditching the fuel injection and emissions stuff and going
> carbuerated. The only problem is I live in Joliet, IL where emissions
> testing catches up with you every couple of years. I would like to
> still be able to cruise around in the converted Jeep, but not have the
> hastle of emissions testing. Does anyone know a legitemet way to avoid
> such testing? (such as insuring the vehicle as a recreational vehicle
> or something) I would appreciate any help I could get. Thanks.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 05-05-2005 10:39 PM

Re: Ways around emssion laws???
 
Nope, when this smog stuff first started, I tried to license an
engine less van as a trailer, to no avail, would have been neat,
lockable five door access.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

big95yj wrote:
>
> Hi there. I have a '95 YJ that I am planning an engine conversion for.
> I purchased an '88 wrecked Ford Bronco with a 351W fuel injected for
> $250. I am planning the engine for the Jeep. While I am ripping all the
> wiring and emissions components out of the Bronco, I am seriously
> considering ditching the fuel injection and emissions stuff and going
> carbuerated. The only problem is I live in Joliet, IL where emissions
> testing catches up with you every couple of years. I would like to
> still be able to cruise around in the converted Jeep, but not have the
> hastle of emissions testing. Does anyone know a legitemet way to avoid
> such testing? (such as insuring the vehicle as a recreational vehicle
> or something) I would appreciate any help I could get. Thanks.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 05-05-2005 10:39 PM

Re: Ways around emssion laws???
 
Nope, when this smog stuff first started, I tried to license an
engine less van as a trailer, to no avail, would have been neat,
lockable five door access.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

big95yj wrote:
>
> Hi there. I have a '95 YJ that I am planning an engine conversion for.
> I purchased an '88 wrecked Ford Bronco with a 351W fuel injected for
> $250. I am planning the engine for the Jeep. While I am ripping all the
> wiring and emissions components out of the Bronco, I am seriously
> considering ditching the fuel injection and emissions stuff and going
> carbuerated. The only problem is I live in Joliet, IL where emissions
> testing catches up with you every couple of years. I would like to
> still be able to cruise around in the converted Jeep, but not have the
> hastle of emissions testing. Does anyone know a legitemet way to avoid
> such testing? (such as insuring the vehicle as a recreational vehicle
> or something) I would appreciate any help I could get. Thanks.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 05-05-2005 10:39 PM

Re: Ways around emssion laws???
 
Nope, when this smog stuff first started, I tried to license an
engine less van as a trailer, to no avail, would have been neat,
lockable five door access.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

big95yj wrote:
>
> Hi there. I have a '95 YJ that I am planning an engine conversion for.
> I purchased an '88 wrecked Ford Bronco with a 351W fuel injected for
> $250. I am planning the engine for the Jeep. While I am ripping all the
> wiring and emissions components out of the Bronco, I am seriously
> considering ditching the fuel injection and emissions stuff and going
> carbuerated. The only problem is I live in Joliet, IL where emissions
> testing catches up with you every couple of years. I would like to
> still be able to cruise around in the converted Jeep, but not have the
> hastle of emissions testing. Does anyone know a legitemet way to avoid
> such testing? (such as insuring the vehicle as a recreational vehicle
> or something) I would appreciate any help I could get. Thanks.


Lee Ayrton 05-06-2005 11:22 AM

Re: Ways around emssion laws???
 
Don't you think you'll get better performance and fuel economy out of
the existing fuel injection system? Carbs are, evolution-wise, not much
more than one generation away from a gas-soaked rag stuffed into a
section of drain pipe, optimized for one engine speed, road condition
and weather.

As for legit ways of avoiding emissions testing, no, I don't think that
there are any. Individual state laws vary but what little about that
that I know suggests that your vehicle /must/ comply. You could wait
until the year 2020, when your YJ becomes an antique and (in some states
but not all) is no longer subject to testing, but I'm guessing that that
isn't what you wanted to hear.

Or you could not register the vehicle and simply trailer it everywhere.


big95yj wrote:
> Hi there. I have a '95 YJ that I am planning an engine conversion for.
> I purchased an '88 wrecked Ford Bronco with a 351W fuel injected for
> $250. I am planning the engine for the Jeep. While I am ripping all the
> wiring and emissions components out of the Bronco, I am seriously
> considering ditching the fuel injection and emissions stuff and going
> carbuerated. The only problem is I live in Joliet, IL where emissions
> testing catches up with you every couple of years. I would like to
> still be able to cruise around in the converted Jeep, but not have the
> hastle of emissions testing. Does anyone know a legitemet way to avoid
> such testing? (such as insuring the vehicle as a recreational vehicle
> or something) I would appreciate any help I could get. Thanks.
>



Lee Ayrton 05-06-2005 11:22 AM

Re: Ways around emssion laws???
 
Don't you think you'll get better performance and fuel economy out of
the existing fuel injection system? Carbs are, evolution-wise, not much
more than one generation away from a gas-soaked rag stuffed into a
section of drain pipe, optimized for one engine speed, road condition
and weather.

As for legit ways of avoiding emissions testing, no, I don't think that
there are any. Individual state laws vary but what little about that
that I know suggests that your vehicle /must/ comply. You could wait
until the year 2020, when your YJ becomes an antique and (in some states
but not all) is no longer subject to testing, but I'm guessing that that
isn't what you wanted to hear.

Or you could not register the vehicle and simply trailer it everywhere.


big95yj wrote:
> Hi there. I have a '95 YJ that I am planning an engine conversion for.
> I purchased an '88 wrecked Ford Bronco with a 351W fuel injected for
> $250. I am planning the engine for the Jeep. While I am ripping all the
> wiring and emissions components out of the Bronco, I am seriously
> considering ditching the fuel injection and emissions stuff and going
> carbuerated. The only problem is I live in Joliet, IL where emissions
> testing catches up with you every couple of years. I would like to
> still be able to cruise around in the converted Jeep, but not have the
> hastle of emissions testing. Does anyone know a legitemet way to avoid
> such testing? (such as insuring the vehicle as a recreational vehicle
> or something) I would appreciate any help I could get. Thanks.
>



Lee Ayrton 05-06-2005 11:22 AM

Re: Ways around emssion laws???
 
Don't you think you'll get better performance and fuel economy out of
the existing fuel injection system? Carbs are, evolution-wise, not much
more than one generation away from a gas-soaked rag stuffed into a
section of drain pipe, optimized for one engine speed, road condition
and weather.

As for legit ways of avoiding emissions testing, no, I don't think that
there are any. Individual state laws vary but what little about that
that I know suggests that your vehicle /must/ comply. You could wait
until the year 2020, when your YJ becomes an antique and (in some states
but not all) is no longer subject to testing, but I'm guessing that that
isn't what you wanted to hear.

Or you could not register the vehicle and simply trailer it everywhere.


big95yj wrote:
> Hi there. I have a '95 YJ that I am planning an engine conversion for.
> I purchased an '88 wrecked Ford Bronco with a 351W fuel injected for
> $250. I am planning the engine for the Jeep. While I am ripping all the
> wiring and emissions components out of the Bronco, I am seriously
> considering ditching the fuel injection and emissions stuff and going
> carbuerated. The only problem is I live in Joliet, IL where emissions
> testing catches up with you every couple of years. I would like to
> still be able to cruise around in the converted Jeep, but not have the
> hastle of emissions testing. Does anyone know a legitemet way to avoid
> such testing? (such as insuring the vehicle as a recreational vehicle
> or something) I would appreciate any help I could get. Thanks.
>



Lee Ayrton 05-06-2005 11:22 AM

Re: Ways around emssion laws???
 
Don't you think you'll get better performance and fuel economy out of
the existing fuel injection system? Carbs are, evolution-wise, not much
more than one generation away from a gas-soaked rag stuffed into a
section of drain pipe, optimized for one engine speed, road condition
and weather.

As for legit ways of avoiding emissions testing, no, I don't think that
there are any. Individual state laws vary but what little about that
that I know suggests that your vehicle /must/ comply. You could wait
until the year 2020, when your YJ becomes an antique and (in some states
but not all) is no longer subject to testing, but I'm guessing that that
isn't what you wanted to hear.

Or you could not register the vehicle and simply trailer it everywhere.


big95yj wrote:
> Hi there. I have a '95 YJ that I am planning an engine conversion for.
> I purchased an '88 wrecked Ford Bronco with a 351W fuel injected for
> $250. I am planning the engine for the Jeep. While I am ripping all the
> wiring and emissions components out of the Bronco, I am seriously
> considering ditching the fuel injection and emissions stuff and going
> carbuerated. The only problem is I live in Joliet, IL where emissions
> testing catches up with you every couple of years. I would like to
> still be able to cruise around in the converted Jeep, but not have the
> hastle of emissions testing. Does anyone know a legitemet way to avoid
> such testing? (such as insuring the vehicle as a recreational vehicle
> or something) I would appreciate any help I could get. Thanks.
>



Jeff Strickland 05-06-2005 02:47 PM

Re: Ways around emssion laws???
 
In the Peoples Republic of California, you will be REQUIRED to bring the
older engine up to the standards for the year of your vehicle.

Basically, you have to use the emissions system for the newer of the engine
or the make of the vehicle. If you put in a motor from a 2000 into your
1995, then you would have to carry the smog stuff over to retain the 2000
emission system. If you put in an older motor, then you have to bring it up
to the smog standards in effect for 1995.

This is only true, as I understand the rules, if you plan to use the vehicle
on the highway. If you are making a machine strictly for offroading, then
you don't need to worry about smogging it.

Your reality may vary.



"big95yj" <shewy14@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1115343380.772418.40800@g14g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> Hi there. I have a '95 YJ that I am planning an engine conversion for.
> I purchased an '88 wrecked Ford Bronco with a 351W fuel injected for
> $250. I am planning the engine for the Jeep. While I am ripping all the
> wiring and emissions components out of the Bronco, I am seriously
> considering ditching the fuel injection and emissions stuff and going
> carbuerated. The only problem is I live in Joliet, IL where emissions
> testing catches up with you every couple of years. I would like to
> still be able to cruise around in the converted Jeep, but not have the
> hastle of emissions testing. Does anyone know a legitemet way to avoid
> such testing? (such as insuring the vehicle as a recreational vehicle
> or something) I would appreciate any help I could get. Thanks.
>





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