Re: WATER IN BREATHER ASSY
You may want to check and see if water has gotten into the oil.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:456DC7E1.B4C926B9@sympatico.ca... > The crack in the line will mess with the idle when that circuit turns on > as the engine warms up and cause the condensation by blowing the PCV > valve's suction. > > I think you likely have found the cause. > > Mike > > jeepr wrote: >> >> I was looking under the hood and the line that goes from the canister >> drivers side to the T fitting at back of carb was split at the T so I >> cut it off and reinstalled it . The ball in the PVC valves rattles like >> a charm. >> The heat pipe is there small crack so I taped it. >> >> Will this water mess with the idle, it has been stalling when warm. >> >> Mike Romain wrote: >> > Ahh, nice sunny day (for this second anyway) here just down the lake a >> > bit in Toronto. It is supposed to hit 15+ C today. >> > >> > Apparently raining cats and dogs in Brampton. >> > >> > Our weather has been humid and hot/cold and foggy. The best for >> > condensation... >> > >> > The reason I mentioned rain is because some YJ's have a ram air scoop >> > just under the headlight for the intake. This can get water into the >> > air filter. >> > >> > Other than that you are describing an amazing amount of condensation >> > which can and will happen in these low temps. The condensation or the >> > high humid air in the crankcase is supposed to get sucked into the >> > intake manifold via the PCV line at the back of the carb. >> > >> > I would first pull the PCV valve out and shake it to make sure it >> > rattles. >> > >> > There are known issues with the solenoid unit at the back of the carb >> > that splits the PCV line into a T with another that goes to the >> > charcoal >> > canister. This thing fails and apparently never did work right. It >> > can >> > be replaced with a T fitting. >> > >> > If this unit is staying closed when the engine is cold and you never >> > warm the engine up fully, the condensation just builds up in the >> > crankcase and can get sucked into the air filter via the valve cover >> > breather tube. >> > >> > You also are supposed to have a flexible heat pipe that comes from the >> > bottom of the air filter snout and goes down to the heat stove on the >> > exhaust manifold. This is a tin box on the front of the manifold. >> > This >> > is for cold weather starts and running and sucks warm air into the air >> > filter. If this isn't working or the carb vacuum flaps aren't hooked >> > up, then cold humid air gets sucked in direct. >> > >> > A 195 thermostat is also best for avoiding condensation. >> > >> > Meanwhile a good run on the highway to fully heat it up and cook off >> > any >> > water left in the oil would be a good idea. >> > >> > You aren't missing any antifreeze right? >> > >> > Mike >> > >> > jeepr wrote: >> >> the engine is the 258 and the weather is southeren ontario quinte area >> >> . >> >> No rain since i last dried out the breather >> >> >> >> Mike Romain wrote: >> >>> What engine? >> >>> >> >>> How's the weather? >> >>> >> >>> Mike >> >>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 >> >>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's >> >>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! >> >>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 >> >>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> jeepr wrote: >> >>>> have a 88yj >> >>>> >> >>>> I'm getting water in the breather assembly. It is a considerable >> >>>> amount >> >>>> in 2 days of driving, probably 1/3 cup. I have dumped a large >> >>>> bottle of >> >>>> stuff that is supposed to absorb the water into gas tank. Other >> >>>> than >> >>>> that no idea how it is getting in there. Causing jeep to idle >> >>>> erratically from sometimes 0 to other times 2500 |
Re: WATER IN BREATHER ASSY
You may want to check and see if water has gotten into the oil.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:456DC7E1.B4C926B9@sympatico.ca... > The crack in the line will mess with the idle when that circuit turns on > as the engine warms up and cause the condensation by blowing the PCV > valve's suction. > > I think you likely have found the cause. > > Mike > > jeepr wrote: >> >> I was looking under the hood and the line that goes from the canister >> drivers side to the T fitting at back of carb was split at the T so I >> cut it off and reinstalled it . The ball in the PVC valves rattles like >> a charm. >> The heat pipe is there small crack so I taped it. >> >> Will this water mess with the idle, it has been stalling when warm. >> >> Mike Romain wrote: >> > Ahh, nice sunny day (for this second anyway) here just down the lake a >> > bit in Toronto. It is supposed to hit 15+ C today. >> > >> > Apparently raining cats and dogs in Brampton. >> > >> > Our weather has been humid and hot/cold and foggy. The best for >> > condensation... >> > >> > The reason I mentioned rain is because some YJ's have a ram air scoop >> > just under the headlight for the intake. This can get water into the >> > air filter. >> > >> > Other than that you are describing an amazing amount of condensation >> > which can and will happen in these low temps. The condensation or the >> > high humid air in the crankcase is supposed to get sucked into the >> > intake manifold via the PCV line at the back of the carb. >> > >> > I would first pull the PCV valve out and shake it to make sure it >> > rattles. >> > >> > There are known issues with the solenoid unit at the back of the carb >> > that splits the PCV line into a T with another that goes to the >> > charcoal >> > canister. This thing fails and apparently never did work right. It >> > can >> > be replaced with a T fitting. >> > >> > If this unit is staying closed when the engine is cold and you never >> > warm the engine up fully, the condensation just builds up in the >> > crankcase and can get sucked into the air filter via the valve cover >> > breather tube. >> > >> > You also are supposed to have a flexible heat pipe that comes from the >> > bottom of the air filter snout and goes down to the heat stove on the >> > exhaust manifold. This is a tin box on the front of the manifold. >> > This >> > is for cold weather starts and running and sucks warm air into the air >> > filter. If this isn't working or the carb vacuum flaps aren't hooked >> > up, then cold humid air gets sucked in direct. >> > >> > A 195 thermostat is also best for avoiding condensation. >> > >> > Meanwhile a good run on the highway to fully heat it up and cook off >> > any >> > water left in the oil would be a good idea. >> > >> > You aren't missing any antifreeze right? >> > >> > Mike >> > >> > jeepr wrote: >> >> the engine is the 258 and the weather is southeren ontario quinte area >> >> . >> >> No rain since i last dried out the breather >> >> >> >> Mike Romain wrote: >> >>> What engine? >> >>> >> >>> How's the weather? >> >>> >> >>> Mike >> >>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 >> >>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's >> >>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! >> >>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 >> >>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> jeepr wrote: >> >>>> have a 88yj >> >>>> >> >>>> I'm getting water in the breather assembly. It is a considerable >> >>>> amount >> >>>> in 2 days of driving, probably 1/3 cup. I have dumped a large >> >>>> bottle of >> >>>> stuff that is supposed to absorb the water into gas tank. Other >> >>>> than >> >>>> that no idea how it is getting in there. Causing jeep to idle >> >>>> erratically from sometimes 0 to other times 2500 |
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