Water in Breather
 

Jeep 88 YJ Standard 4.2

Getting a fair quantity of water in breather. Pvc valve rattles, have
changed oil and still getting water in breather. It is in the inner
section of the air filter. Is it possible it could be coming from pulse
air system, if so what is the cause and cure.

Any help would be deeply appreciated.

Re: Water in Breather
 

You are going to condensed water if all you do is short trips to
the Post Office, and Grocery. It's nice that's been converted over to a
Positive Ventilation Crankcase valve, but I'll bet it's still clogged at
the orifice just below the carburetor. Make sure all the hoses are
clear: http://jeep.off-road.com/jeep/articl....jsp?id=257985
Also replace the thermostat with a 195 degrees to get it as hot as
possible to evaporate the water and fuel from your system.
http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/list.htm
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jeepr wrote:
>
> Jeep 88 YJ Standard 4.2
>
> Getting a fair quantity of water in breather. Pvc valve rattles, have
> changed oil and still getting water in breather. It is in the inner
> section of the air filter. Is it possible it could be coming from pulse
> air system, if so what is the cause and cure.
>
> Any help would be deeply appreciated.

Re: Water in Breather
 

You are going to condensed water if all you do is short trips to
the Post Office, and Grocery. It's nice that's been converted over to a
Positive Ventilation Crankcase valve, but I'll bet it's still clogged at
the orifice just below the carburetor. Make sure all the hoses are
clear: http://jeep.off-road.com/jeep/articl....jsp?id=257985
Also replace the thermostat with a 195 degrees to get it as hot as
possible to evaporate the water and fuel from your system.
http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/list.htm
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

jeepr wrote:
>
> Jeep 88 YJ Standard 4.2
>
> Getting a fair quantity of water in breather. Pvc valve rattles, have
> changed oil and still getting water in breather. It is in the inner
> section of the air filter. Is it possible it could be coming from pulse
> air system, if so what is the cause and cure.
>
> Any help would be deeply appreciated.

Re: Water in Breather
 

You are going to condensed water if all you do is short trips to
the Post Office, and Grocery. It's nice that's been converted over to a
Positive Ventilation Crankcase valve, but I'll bet it's still clogged at
the orifice just below the carburetor. Make sure all the hoses are
clear: http://jeep.off-road.com/jeep/articl....jsp?id=257985
Also replace the thermostat with a 195 degrees to get it as hot as
possible to evaporate the water and fuel from your system.
http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/list.htm
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

jeepr wrote:
>
> Jeep 88 YJ Standard 4.2
>
> Getting a fair quantity of water in breather. Pvc valve rattles, have
> changed oil and still getting water in breather. It is in the inner
> section of the air filter. Is it possible it could be coming from pulse
> air system, if so what is the cause and cure.
>
> Any help would be deeply appreciated.

Re: Water in Breather
 

Any way pulse air system has something to do with it?

L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> You are going to condensed water if all you do is short trips to
> the Post Office, and Grocery. It's nice that's been converted over to a
> Positive Ventilation Crankcase valve, but I'll bet it's still clogged at
> the orifice just below the carburetor. Make sure all the hoses are
> clear: http://jeep.off-road.com/jeep/articl....jsp?id=257985
> Also replace the thermostat with a 195 degrees to get it as hot as
> possible to evaporate the water and fuel from your system.
> http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/list.htm
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> jeepr wrote:
>> Jeep 88 YJ Standard 4.2
>>
>> Getting a fair quantity of water in breather. Pvc valve rattles, have
>> changed oil and still getting water in breather. It is in the inner
>> section of the air filter. Is it possible it could be coming from pulse
>> air system, if so what is the cause and cure.
>>
>> Any help would be deeply appreciated.

Re: Water in Breather
 

Any way pulse air system has something to do with it?

L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> You are going to condensed water if all you do is short trips to
> the Post Office, and Grocery. It's nice that's been converted over to a
> Positive Ventilation Crankcase valve, but I'll bet it's still clogged at
> the orifice just below the carburetor. Make sure all the hoses are
> clear: http://jeep.off-road.com/jeep/articl....jsp?id=257985
> Also replace the thermostat with a 195 degrees to get it as hot as
> possible to evaporate the water and fuel from your system.
> http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/list.htm
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> jeepr wrote:
>> Jeep 88 YJ Standard 4.2
>>
>> Getting a fair quantity of water in breather. Pvc valve rattles, have
>> changed oil and still getting water in breather. It is in the inner
>> section of the air filter. Is it possible it could be coming from pulse
>> air system, if so what is the cause and cure.
>>
>> Any help would be deeply appreciated.

Re: Water in Breather
 

Any way pulse air system has something to do with it?

L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> You are going to condensed water if all you do is short trips to
> the Post Office, and Grocery. It's nice that's been converted over to a
> Positive Ventilation Crankcase valve, but I'll bet it's still clogged at
> the orifice just below the carburetor. Make sure all the hoses are
> clear: http://jeep.off-road.com/jeep/articl....jsp?id=257985
> Also replace the thermostat with a 195 degrees to get it as hot as
> possible to evaporate the water and fuel from your system.
> http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/list.htm
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> jeepr wrote:
>> Jeep 88 YJ Standard 4.2
>>
>> Getting a fair quantity of water in breather. Pvc valve rattles, have
>> changed oil and still getting water in breather. It is in the inner
>> section of the air filter. Is it possible it could be coming from pulse
>> air system, if so what is the cause and cure.
>>
>> Any help would be deeply appreciated.

Re: Water in Breather
 

Why don't you replace it and find out, if pumping air into your
exhaust system make water in your air filter box:
http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/pulseair.htm
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

jeepr wrote:
>
> Any way pulse air system has something to do with it?

Re: Water in Breather
 

Why don't you replace it and find out, if pumping air into your
exhaust system make water in your air filter box:
http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/pulseair.htm
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

jeepr wrote:
>
> Any way pulse air system has something to do with it?

Re: Water in Breather
 

Why don't you replace it and find out, if pumping air into your
exhaust system make water in your air filter box:
http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/pulseair.htm
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

jeepr wrote:
>
> Any way pulse air system has something to do with it?

Re: Water in Breather
 

On Sat, 09 Dec 2006 23:15:42 -0500, jeepr <jeeprnospam@canada.com>
wrote:

>Any way pulse air system has something to do with it?

Yes. You are getting condensation from the exhaust into the air
cleaner. The pulse air valves are designed to allow air from the air
cleaner into the exhaust system, but not let exhaust into the air
cleaner. One or both of those valves have failed causing your
problem.



>
>L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
>> You are going to condensed water if all you do is short trips to
>> the Post Office, and Grocery. It's nice that's been converted over to a
>> Positive Ventilation Crankcase valve, but I'll bet it's still clogged at
>> the orifice just below the carburetor. Make sure all the hoses are
>> clear: http://jeep.off-road.com/jeep/articl....jsp?id=257985
>> Also replace the thermostat with a 195 degrees to get it as hot as
>> possible to evaporate the water and fuel from your system.
>> http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/list.htm
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> jeepr wrote:
>>> Jeep 88 YJ Standard 4.2
>>>
>>> Getting a fair quantity of water in breather. Pvc valve rattles, have
>>> changed oil and still getting water in breather. It is in the inner
>>> section of the air filter. Is it possible it could be coming from pulse
>>> air system, if so what is the cause and cure.
>>>
>>> Any help would be deeply appreciated.

Re: Water in Breather
 

On Sat, 09 Dec 2006 23:15:42 -0500, jeepr <jeeprnospam@canada.com>
wrote:

>Any way pulse air system has something to do with it?

Yes. You are getting condensation from the exhaust into the air
cleaner. The pulse air valves are designed to allow air from the air
cleaner into the exhaust system, but not let exhaust into the air
cleaner. One or both of those valves have failed causing your
problem.



>
>L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
>> You are going to condensed water if all you do is short trips to
>> the Post Office, and Grocery. It's nice that's been converted over to a
>> Positive Ventilation Crankcase valve, but I'll bet it's still clogged at
>> the orifice just below the carburetor. Make sure all the hoses are
>> clear: http://jeep.off-road.com/jeep/articl....jsp?id=257985
>> Also replace the thermostat with a 195 degrees to get it as hot as
>> possible to evaporate the water and fuel from your system.
>> http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/list.htm
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> jeepr wrote:
>>> Jeep 88 YJ Standard 4.2
>>>
>>> Getting a fair quantity of water in breather. Pvc valve rattles, have
>>> changed oil and still getting water in breather. It is in the inner
>>> section of the air filter. Is it possible it could be coming from pulse
>>> air system, if so what is the cause and cure.
>>>
>>> Any help would be deeply appreciated.

Re: Water in Breather
 

On Sat, 09 Dec 2006 23:15:42 -0500, jeepr <jeeprnospam@canada.com>
wrote:

>Any way pulse air system has something to do with it?

Yes. You are getting condensation from the exhaust into the air
cleaner. The pulse air valves are designed to allow air from the air
cleaner into the exhaust system, but not let exhaust into the air
cleaner. One or both of those valves have failed causing your
problem.



>
>L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
>> You are going to condensed water if all you do is short trips to
>> the Post Office, and Grocery. It's nice that's been converted over to a
>> Positive Ventilation Crankcase valve, but I'll bet it's still clogged at
>> the orifice just below the carburetor. Make sure all the hoses are
>> clear: http://jeep.off-road.com/jeep/articl....jsp?id=257985
>> Also replace the thermostat with a 195 degrees to get it as hot as
>> possible to evaporate the water and fuel from your system.
>> http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/list.htm
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> jeepr wrote:
>>> Jeep 88 YJ Standard 4.2
>>>
>>> Getting a fair quantity of water in breather. Pvc valve rattles, have
>>> changed oil and still getting water in breather. It is in the inner
>>> section of the air filter. Is it possible it could be coming from pulse
>>> air system, if so what is the cause and cure.
>>>
>>> Any help would be deeply appreciated.

Re: Water in Breather
 

Besides a possible failure in the pulse air system, I would be wanting
to verify the PCV valve has suction. I would test for suction on a
warm/hot engine at various throttle positions. On the last bunch of
carb engines, they put a solenoid at the back of the carb to regulate
the PCV flow and the charcoal canister flow. This was a bad part from
the get go and the fix is to bypass it with a T fitting.

You could test the pulse air system by removing the hoses one at a time
to see if the water stops. This would let you know which valve is bad
if any. I don't know what the factory test is for those valves, but
elimination sure would narrow it down. A wine cork will block the hole
in the air filter.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

jeepr wrote:
>
> Jeep 88 YJ Standard 4.2
>
> Getting a fair quantity of water in breather. Pvc valve rattles, have
> changed oil and still getting water in breather. It is in the inner
> section of the air filter. Is it possible it could be coming from pulse
> air system, if so what is the cause and cure.
>
> Any help would be deeply appreciated.

Re: Water in Breather
 

Besides a possible failure in the pulse air system, I would be wanting
to verify the PCV valve has suction. I would test for suction on a
warm/hot engine at various throttle positions. On the last bunch of
carb engines, they put a solenoid at the back of the carb to regulate
the PCV flow and the charcoal canister flow. This was a bad part from
the get go and the fix is to bypass it with a T fitting.

You could test the pulse air system by removing the hoses one at a time
to see if the water stops. This would let you know which valve is bad
if any. I don't know what the factory test is for those valves, but
elimination sure would narrow it down. A wine cork will block the hole
in the air filter.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

jeepr wrote:
>
> Jeep 88 YJ Standard 4.2
>
> Getting a fair quantity of water in breather. Pvc valve rattles, have
> changed oil and still getting water in breather. It is in the inner
> section of the air filter. Is it possible it could be coming from pulse
> air system, if so what is the cause and cure.
>
> Any help would be deeply appreciated.

Re: Water in Breather
 

Besides a possible failure in the pulse air system, I would be wanting
to verify the PCV valve has suction. I would test for suction on a
warm/hot engine at various throttle positions. On the last bunch of
carb engines, they put a solenoid at the back of the carb to regulate
the PCV flow and the charcoal canister flow. This was a bad part from
the get go and the fix is to bypass it with a T fitting.

You could test the pulse air system by removing the hoses one at a time
to see if the water stops. This would let you know which valve is bad
if any. I don't know what the factory test is for those valves, but
elimination sure would narrow it down. A wine cork will block the hole
in the air filter.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

jeepr wrote:
>
> Jeep 88 YJ Standard 4.2
>
> Getting a fair quantity of water in breather. Pvc valve rattles, have
> changed oil and still getting water in breather. It is in the inner
> section of the air filter. Is it possible it could be coming from pulse
> air system, if so what is the cause and cure.
>
> Any help would be deeply appreciated.