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Brian French 08-12-2003 12:53 PM

WARNING Re: Faked 1946 Willys Army Jeep on eBay
 
There is a very faked Jeep on ebay being advertised as being "all original".
This is one of the most slapped together mish-mash of parts from several jeep
models and decades I have ever seen! The crime is he has labeled it so
incorrectly - fraud I say - and some poor dopes that don't know any better are
bidding it up to the $10,000 range.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...1&category=647
0&item=2427443462

This is a homebuilt jeep, not a factory Army jeep as purported.
There are so many things wrong with this "only 571 miles on it" jeep I don't
know where to begin.

The Top Bows are not even correct for an MB/GPW, nor for a CJ-2a. They are
M-38 (1950-51), as is the windshield frame.
The rear Top Bow mounting brackets are home made, not factory. The Front winch
is not military, not Willys factory. The CJ-2a did not come with 4 grab
handles; they are incorrect on a 1946 jeep. The blackout lights are a mess.
The Front B/O lights are not in the grill where they should be IF it were a
real military vehicle. The rear B/O Lights are mounted upside down and not in
the correct position for a military jeep. Civilian Jeeps did not come with
Pre-War Dodge King-Bee Marble reflectors. There is a muffler clamp holding the
Carb elbow to the top of the carb - YIKES!!!
There are muffler clamps holding the non-military Ax & shovel to the wrong side
of the vehicle. CJs don't have Ax & Shovel, MB/GPWs did, but on the driver's
side, not the passenger side as this cobble-job has been done up.
The wire harness is homemade, and a bad one at that. Where did the hood welting
go over the grill? It should still be there with only 571 original miles on
the jeep.

CJ's don't have the spare tire & gas can mounted to the tailgate. Military
Jeeps don't have tailgates. Military jeeps don't have locking wheel hubs
either.

It has had a WWII glove box cut into the CJ-2A dashboard on the body. The glove
box door looks homemade. It has the long 1pc data plate instead of the 3-piece
data plate set.

The rear bumperettes are mounted upside down. What is up with the black
reversed painted star? And the aftermarket taillight?
It has a postwar pintle hook, probably from a Vietnam era M151. It has a
3-stud spare tire mount - that was discontinued at Willys in 1943!

What a mess, any other knowledgeable jeepers want to send this guy an email
'correcting' his listing?

<a href="http://members.aol.com/brimiljeep/WebPages/wwwDriveToWWII.html">
Brian's Military Jeeps of WWII www.Drive.To/WWII </a>
<a href="http://members.aol.com:/brimiljeep/WebPages/SquadronPatchPage.html">
Squadron Patches of WWII </a>

aGraham 08-12-2003 01:33 PM

Re: WARNING Re: Faked 1946 Willys Army Jeep on eBay
 
I like the fact that on 8/11 he says it is "NOT a reproduction" then on
8/12 he says "All the extras where added".


In article <3F391EAE.DEBF43CC@sympatico.ca>,
Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:

> You should send this to ebay or at least to the poor suckers bidding on
> it...
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Brian French wrote:
> >
> > There is a very faked Jeep on ebay being advertised as being "all
> > original".
> > This is one of the most slapped together mish-mash of parts from several
> > jeep
> > models and decades I have ever seen! The crime is he has labeled it so
> > incorrectly - fraud I say - and some poor dopes that don't know any better
> > are
> > bidding it up to the $10,000 range.
> >
> > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...1&category=647
> > 0&item=2427443462
> >
> > This is a homebuilt jeep, not a factory Army jeep as purported.
> > There are so many things wrong with this "only 571 miles on it" jeep I
> > don't
> > know where to begin.
> >
> > The Top Bows are not even correct for an MB/GPW, nor for a CJ-2a. They are
> > M-38 (1950-51), as is the windshield frame.
> > The rear Top Bow mounting brackets are home made, not factory. The Front
> > winch
> > is not military, not Willys factory. The CJ-2a did not come with 4 grab
> > handles; they are incorrect on a 1946 jeep. The blackout lights are a
> > mess.
> > The Front B/O lights are not in the grill where they should be IF it were a
> > real military vehicle. The rear B/O Lights are mounted upside down and not
> > in
> > the correct position for a military jeep. Civilian Jeeps did not come with
> > Pre-War Dodge King-Bee Marble reflectors. There is a muffler clamp holding
> > the
> > Carb elbow to the top of the carb - YIKES!!!
> > There are muffler clamps holding the non-military Ax & shovel to the wrong
> > side
> > of the vehicle. CJs don't have Ax & Shovel, MB/GPWs did, but on the
> > driver's
> > side, not the passenger side as this cobble-job has been done up.
> > The wire harness is homemade, and a bad one at that. Where did the hood
> > welting
> > go over the grill? It should still be there with only 571 original miles
> > on
> > the jeep.
> >
> > CJ's don't have the spare tire & gas can mounted to the tailgate. Military
> > Jeeps don't have tailgates. Military jeeps don't have locking wheel hubs
> > either.
> >
> > It has had a WWII glove box cut into the CJ-2A dashboard on the body. The
> > glove
> > box door looks homemade. It has the long 1pc data plate instead of the
> > 3-piece
> > data plate set.
> >
> > The rear bumperettes are mounted upside down. What is up with the black
> > reversed painted star? And the aftermarket taillight?
> > It has a postwar pintle hook, probably from a Vietnam era M151. It has a
> > 3-stud spare tire mount - that was discontinued at Willys in 1943!
> >
> > What a mess, any other knowledgeable jeepers want to send this guy an email
> > 'correcting' his listing?
> >
> > <a href="http://members.aol.com/brimiljeep/WebPages/wwwDriveToWWII.html">
> > Brian's Military Jeeps of WWII www.Drive.To/WWII </a>
> > <a
> > href="http://members.aol.com:/brimiljeep/WebPages/SquadronPatchPage.html">
> > Squadron Patches of WWII </a>


Earle Horton 08-12-2003 01:42 PM

Re: WARNING Re: Faked 1946 Willys Army Jeep on eBay
 
This guy can't even spell and appears to know absolutely nothing about
Jeeps. Some of his most amazing utterances are:

"it has the brass I think there called warren hubs"

"Every thing about this jeep and its accessories are real and original
except the paint."

"All the extras where added to this jeep. It has been a life long project."

It's located in Courtenay, .B.C. too. Maybe it's actually a Canadian
version. ;o)

I conclude that the seller is not the original owner or collector, and
probably knows next to nothing about the vehicle that he did not look up in
a book or catalog. Conspicuous for its absence is history of this
particular vehicle. That should be a red flag for any buyer.

Despite the historical inaccuracy, this is a nice vehicle and the new owner
will probably be very happy with it. That is, until he tries to donate it
to a museum and the curator says he doesn't want it...

Earle

"Brian French" <brimiljeep@aol.comnospam> wrote in message
news:20030812125318.28762.00000245@mb-m26.aol.com...
> There is a very faked Jeep on ebay being advertised as being "all

original".
> This is one of the most slapped together mish-mash of parts from several

jeep
> models and decades I have ever seen! The crime is he has labeled it so
> incorrectly - fraud I say - and some poor dopes that don't know any better

are
> bidding it up to the $10,000 range.
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...1&category=647
> 0&item=2427443462
>
> This is a homebuilt jeep, not a factory Army jeep as purported.
> There are so many things wrong with this "only 571 miles on it" jeep I

don't
> know where to begin.
>
> The Top Bows are not even correct for an MB/GPW, nor for a CJ-2a. They

are
> M-38 (1950-51), as is the windshield frame.
> The rear Top Bow mounting brackets are home made, not factory. The Front

winch
> is not military, not Willys factory. The CJ-2a did not come with 4 grab
> handles; they are incorrect on a 1946 jeep. The blackout lights are a

mess.
> The Front B/O lights are not in the grill where they should be IF it were

a
> real military vehicle. The rear B/O Lights are mounted upside down and

not in
> the correct position for a military jeep. Civilian Jeeps did not come

with
> Pre-War Dodge King-Bee Marble reflectors. There is a muffler clamp holding

the
> Carb elbow to the top of the carb - YIKES!!!
> There are muffler clamps holding the non-military Ax & shovel to the wrong

side
> of the vehicle. CJs don't have Ax & Shovel, MB/GPWs did, but on the

driver's
> side, not the passenger side as this cobble-job has been done up.
> The wire harness is homemade, and a bad one at that. Where did the hood

welting
> go over the grill? It should still be there with only 571 original miles

on
> the jeep.
>
> CJ's don't have the spare tire & gas can mounted to the tailgate.

Military
> Jeeps don't have tailgates. Military jeeps don't have locking wheel hubs
> either.
>
> It has had a WWII glove box cut into the CJ-2A dashboard on the body. The

glove
> box door looks homemade. It has the long 1pc data plate instead of the

3-piece
> data plate set.
>
> The rear bumperettes are mounted upside down. What is up with the black
> reversed painted star? And the aftermarket taillight?
> It has a postwar pintle hook, probably from a Vietnam era M151. It has a
> 3-stud spare tire mount - that was discontinued at Willys in 1943!
>
> What a mess, any other knowledgeable jeepers want to send this guy an

email
> 'correcting' his listing?
>
> <a href="http://members.aol.com/brimiljeep/WebPages/wwwDriveToWWII.html">
> Brian's Military Jeeps of WWII www.Drive.To/WWII </a>
> <a

href="http://members.aol.com:/brimiljeep/WebPages/SquadronPatchPage.html">
> Squadron Patches of WWII </a>




Earle Horton 08-12-2003 01:44 PM

Re: WARNING Re: Faked 1946 Willys Army Jeep on eBay
 
Here's another one: "Money makes you stupid..."

Earle

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:3F3927E0.8D58B0DC@cox.net...
> A fool and their money will soon part.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Brian French wrote:
> >
> > There is a very faked Jeep on ebay being advertised as being "all

original".
> > This is one of the most slapped together mish-mash of parts from several

jeep
> > models and decades I have ever seen! The crime is he has labeled it so
> > incorrectly - fraud I say - and some poor dopes that don't know any

better are
> > bidding it up to the $10,000 range.
> >
> >

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...1&category=647
> > 0&item=2427443462
> >
> > This is a homebuilt jeep, not a factory Army jeep as purported.
> > There are so many things wrong with this "only 571 miles on it" jeep I

don't
> > know where to begin.
> >
> > The Top Bows are not even correct for an MB/GPW, nor for a CJ-2a. They

are
> > M-38 (1950-51), as is the windshield frame.
> > The rear Top Bow mounting brackets are home made, not factory. The Front

winch
> > is not military, not Willys factory. The CJ-2a did not come with 4 grab
> > handles; they are incorrect on a 1946 jeep. The blackout lights are a

mess.
> > The Front B/O lights are not in the grill where they should be IF it

were a
> > real military vehicle. The rear B/O Lights are mounted upside down and

not in
> > the correct position for a military jeep. Civilian Jeeps did not come

with
> > Pre-War Dodge King-Bee Marble reflectors. There is a muffler clamp

holding the
> > Carb elbow to the top of the carb - YIKES!!!
> > There are muffler clamps holding the non-military Ax & shovel to the

wrong side
> > of the vehicle. CJs don't have Ax & Shovel, MB/GPWs did, but on the

driver's
> > side, not the passenger side as this cobble-job has been done up.
> > The wire harness is homemade, and a bad one at that. Where did the hood

welting
> > go over the grill? It should still be there with only 571 original

miles on
> > the jeep.
> >
> > CJ's don't have the spare tire & gas can mounted to the tailgate.

Military
> > Jeeps don't have tailgates. Military jeeps don't have locking wheel hubs
> > either.
> >
> > It has had a WWII glove box cut into the CJ-2A dashboard on the body.

The glove
> > box door looks homemade. It has the long 1pc data plate instead of the

3-piece
> > data plate set.
> >
> > The rear bumperettes are mounted upside down. What is up with the black
> > reversed painted star? And the aftermarket taillight?
> > It has a postwar pintle hook, probably from a Vietnam era M151. It has

a
> > 3-stud spare tire mount - that was discontinued at Willys in 1943!
> >
> > What a mess, any other knowledgeable jeepers want to send this guy an

email
> > 'correcting' his listing?
> >
> > <a

href="http://members.aol.com/brimiljeep/WebPages/wwwDriveToWWII.html">
> > Brian's Military Jeeps of WWII www.Drive.To/WWII </a>
> > <a

href="http://members.aol.com:/brimiljeep/WebPages/SquadronPatchPage.html">
> > Squadron Patches of WWII </a>




L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 08-12-2003 01:57 PM

Re: WARNING Re: Faked 1946 Willys Army Jeep on eBay
 
When it comes to cocaine.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Here's another one: "Money makes you stupid..."
>
> Earle


TJim 08-12-2003 04:23 PM

Re: WARNING Re: Faked 1946 Willys Army Jeep on eBay
 
Brian,
Send a copy of this to ebay customer service.
TJim

"Brian French" <brimiljeep@aol.comnospam> wrote in message
news:20030812125318.28762.00000245@mb-m26.aol.com...
> There is a very faked Jeep on ebay being advertised as being "all

original".
> This is one of the most slapped together mish-mash of parts from several

jeep
> models and decades I have ever seen! The crime is he has labeled it so
> incorrectly - fraud I say - and some poor dopes that don't know any better

are
> bidding it up to the $10,000 range.
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...1&category=647
> 0&item=2427443462
>
> This is a homebuilt jeep, not a factory Army jeep as purported.
> There are so many things wrong with this "only 571 miles on it" jeep I

don't
> know where to begin.
>
> The Top Bows are not even correct for an MB/GPW, nor for a CJ-2a. They

are
> M-38 (1950-51), as is the windshield frame.
> The rear Top Bow mounting brackets are home made, not factory. The Front

winch
> is not military, not Willys factory. The CJ-2a did not come with 4 grab
> handles; they are incorrect on a 1946 jeep. The blackout lights are a

mess.
> The Front B/O lights are not in the grill where they should be IF it were

a
> real military vehicle. The rear B/O Lights are mounted upside down and

not in
> the correct position for a military jeep. Civilian Jeeps did not come

with
> Pre-War Dodge King-Bee Marble reflectors. There is a muffler clamp holding

the
> Carb elbow to the top of the carb - YIKES!!!
> There are muffler clamps holding the non-military Ax & shovel to the wrong

side
> of the vehicle. CJs don't have Ax & Shovel, MB/GPWs did, but on the

driver's
> side, not the passenger side as this cobble-job has been done up.
> The wire harness is homemade, and a bad one at that. Where did the hood

welting
> go over the grill? It should still be there with only 571 original miles

on
> the jeep.
>
> CJ's don't have the spare tire & gas can mounted to the tailgate.

Military
> Jeeps don't have tailgates. Military jeeps don't have locking wheel hubs
> either.
>
> It has had a WWII glove box cut into the CJ-2A dashboard on the body. The

glove
> box door looks homemade. It has the long 1pc data plate instead of the

3-piece
> data plate set.
>
> The rear bumperettes are mounted upside down. What is up with the black
> reversed painted star? And the aftermarket taillight?
> It has a postwar pintle hook, probably from a Vietnam era M151. It has a
> 3-stud spare tire mount - that was discontinued at Willys in 1943!
>
> What a mess, any other knowledgeable jeepers want to send this guy an

email
> 'correcting' his listing?
>
> <a href="http://members.aol.com/brimiljeep/WebPages/wwwDriveToWWII.html">
> Brian's Military Jeeps of WWII www.Drive.To/WWII </a>
> <a

href="http://members.aol.com:/brimiljeep/WebPages/SquadronPatchPage.html">
> Squadron Patches of WWII </a>




Lon Stowell 08-12-2003 06:25 PM

Re: WARNING Re: Faked 1946 Willys Army Jeep on eBay
 

Don't work. Even with Netscape 7.1 and/or Mozilla, the worms crawl
in and the worms crawl out. Mainly because by default the Win/NT,
2000, XP variants leave their RPC services setting there wide open
whether or not they are needed, and have no protection against being
hit with N+1 bytes in a N byte buffer. And just to add fun, the
most obnoxious form of the DCOM RPC worm does a DoS against your
Microsoft Update so you have problems downloading the patch to
fix the buffer overflow issue. Coupla Netscape folks got hit
already.... see secnews.netscape.com/netscape.mozilla.user.win32
or netscape.netscape7.windows



Approximately 8/12/03 15:14, L.W.(ßill) ------ III uttered for posterity:

> Thanks.
> Another free clue, use Netscape and forget about the worms you're
> hearing about.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> DougW wrote:
>>
>> Free clue day.
>>
>> Put < and > around the URL to keep it from breaking.
>>
>> <http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&category=6470&item=242 7443462>
>>
>> --
>> DougW



jbjeep 08-12-2003 08:37 PM

Re: WARNING Re: Faked 1946 Willys Army Jeep on eBay
 
On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 11:42:31 -0600, "Earle Horton"
<enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote:

>>This guy can't even spell and appears to know absolutely nothing about
>>Jeeps. Some of his most amazing utterances are:
>>
>>"it has the brass I think there called warren hubs"
>>
>>"Every thing about this jeep and its accessories are real and original
>>except the paint."


Well, they are all real, and they are all originals. Just not for the Jeep he is
talking about. Deffinite jerk.



Rob Bottom 08-12-2003 10:08 PM

Re: WARNING Re: Faked 1946 Willys Army Jeep on eBay
 
I always thought it was " A fool and his money are soon partying"
:-)

Rob In Tucson

On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 17:48:28 GMT, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@cox.net> wrote:

> A fool and their money will soon part.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>Brian French wrote:
>>
>> There is a very faked Jeep on ebay being advertised as being "all original".
>> This is one of the most slapped together mish-mash of parts from several jeep
>> models and decades I have ever seen! The crime is he has labeled it so
>> incorrectly - fraud I say - and some poor dopes that don't know any better are
>> bidding it up to the $10,000 range.
>>
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...1&category=647
>> 0&item=2427443462
>>
>> This is a homebuilt jeep, not a factory Army jeep as purported.
>> There are so many things wrong with this "only 571 miles on it" jeep I don't
>> know where to begin.
>>
>> The Top Bows are not even correct for an MB/GPW, nor for a CJ-2a. They are
>> M-38 (1950-51), as is the windshield frame.
>> The rear Top Bow mounting brackets are home made, not factory. The Front winch
>> is not military, not Willys factory. The CJ-2a did not come with 4 grab
>> handles; they are incorrect on a 1946 jeep. The blackout lights are a mess.
>> The Front B/O lights are not in the grill where they should be IF it were a
>> real military vehicle. The rear B/O Lights are mounted upside down and not in
>> the correct position for a military jeep. Civilian Jeeps did not come with
>> Pre-War Dodge King-Bee Marble reflectors. There is a muffler clamp holding the
>> Carb elbow to the top of the carb - YIKES!!!
>> There are muffler clamps holding the non-military Ax & shovel to the wrong side
>> of the vehicle. CJs don't have Ax & Shovel, MB/GPWs did, but on the driver's
>> side, not the passenger side as this cobble-job has been done up.
>> The wire harness is homemade, and a bad one at that. Where did the hood welting
>> go over the grill? It should still be there with only 571 original miles on
>> the jeep.
>>
>> CJ's don't have the spare tire & gas can mounted to the tailgate. Military
>> Jeeps don't have tailgates. Military jeeps don't have locking wheel hubs
>> either.
>>
>> It has had a WWII glove box cut into the CJ-2A dashboard on the body. The glove
>> box door looks homemade. It has the long 1pc data plate instead of the 3-piece
>> data plate set.
>>
>> The rear bumperettes are mounted upside down. What is up with the black
>> reversed painted star? And the aftermarket taillight?
>> It has a postwar pintle hook, probably from a Vietnam era M151. It has a
>> 3-stud spare tire mount - that was discontinued at Willys in 1943!
>>
>> What a mess, any other knowledgeable jeepers want to send this guy an email
>> 'correcting' his listing?
>>
>> <a href="http://members.aol.com/brimiljeep/WebPages/wwwDriveToWWII.html">
>> Brian's Military Jeeps of WWII www.Drive.To/WWII </a>
>> <a href="http://members.aol.com:/brimiljeep/WebPages/SquadronPatchPage.html">
>> Squadron Patches of WWII </a>



Kenneth Garman 08-13-2003 02:33 PM

Re: WARNING Re: Faked 1946 Willys Army Jeep on eBay
 
> You should send this to ebay or at least to the poor suckers bidding on
> it...


HA! Ebay won't let you do that, they'll cancel your account for such
an infraction. Gotta keep the money flowin....


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