Want to buy my first Jeep Wrangler.
 

Hello Everybody,

I'm looking to purchase my first Jeep Wrangler.

Don't want to get anything too fancy, or too tricked up. My wife and I
will use it for hiking and camping trips, and for driving on snow covered
roads and skiiing trips.

I went to my local Jeep dealer and they had a nice new model with minimal
bells and whistles for about $20K. Too much for me to afford, so I'll
probably have to get a used Wrangler.

I've seen them advertised on Craigslist, etc., in my price range.
Usually these are mid- to late-nineties.

Most of these seem to have about 100K miles. What is the life expectancy
of a Wrangler?

A lot of the Wranglers have been lifted. Does lifting the Wrangler
reduce its life, or cause other problems?

If anyone has any comments, I'd sure appreciate hearing them.

Also, I think I'd rather get the 4 cylinder engine because I'm in no
hurry to get anywhere, and hopefully the 4 cyl. engine gets better
mileage. Any comments on 4 vs. 6 cylinder. (My favorite engine is a
straight six, like in my Dodge Ram diesel.)

Thanks in advance.

The Rocket Man

Re: Want to buy my first Jeep Wrangler.
 

Treated well, 200,000 miles plus.
Got for the 6 cylinder 4 litre; the gas mileage isn't that different and the
4 cylinder can't get out its own way. Plus the engine is remarkably durable
and torquey.
A lifted Wrangler will have more wear on the drivetrain, hubs, steering
components most likely.

For your requirements, I'd be looking at an XJ (Cherokee) to be honest - you
can't fit much in a Wrangler. Certainly not skis, and I guess you would
struggle a bit to attach them outside with a soft-top.

Dave Milne, Scotland

"Giskard Reventlov" <Tokaloo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns999DA443CE103GiskardReventlov@216.196.97.1 36...
> Hello Everybody,
>
> I'm looking to purchase my first Jeep Wrangler.
>
> Don't want to get anything too fancy, or too tricked up. My wife and I
> will use it for hiking and camping trips, and for driving on snow covered
> roads and skiiing trips.
>
> I went to my local Jeep dealer and they had a nice new model with minimal
> bells and whistles for about $20K. Too much for me to afford, so I'll
> probably have to get a used Wrangler.
>
> I've seen them advertised on Craigslist, etc., in my price range.
> Usually these are mid- to late-nineties.
>
> Most of these seem to have about 100K miles. What is the life expectancy
> of a Wrangler?
>
> A lot of the Wranglers have been lifted. Does lifting the Wrangler
> reduce its life, or cause other problems?
>
> If anyone has any comments, I'd sure appreciate hearing them.
>
> Also, I think I'd rather get the 4 cylinder engine because I'm in no
> hurry to get anywhere, and hopefully the 4 cyl. engine gets better
> mileage. Any comments on 4 vs. 6 cylinder. (My favorite engine is a
> straight six, like in my Dodge Ram diesel.)
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> The Rocket Man

Re: Want to buy my first Jeep Wrangler.
 

Treated well, 200,000 miles plus.
Got for the 6 cylinder 4 litre; the gas mileage isn't that different and the
4 cylinder can't get out its own way. Plus the engine is remarkably durable
and torquey.
A lifted Wrangler will have more wear on the drivetrain, hubs, steering
components most likely.

For your requirements, I'd be looking at an XJ (Cherokee) to be honest - you
can't fit much in a Wrangler. Certainly not skis, and I guess you would
struggle a bit to attach them outside with a soft-top.

Dave Milne, Scotland

"Giskard Reventlov" <Tokaloo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns999DA443CE103GiskardReventlov@216.196.97.1 36...
> Hello Everybody,
>
> I'm looking to purchase my first Jeep Wrangler.
>
> Don't want to get anything too fancy, or too tricked up. My wife and I
> will use it for hiking and camping trips, and for driving on snow covered
> roads and skiiing trips.
>
> I went to my local Jeep dealer and they had a nice new model with minimal
> bells and whistles for about $20K. Too much for me to afford, so I'll
> probably have to get a used Wrangler.
>
> I've seen them advertised on Craigslist, etc., in my price range.
> Usually these are mid- to late-nineties.
>
> Most of these seem to have about 100K miles. What is the life expectancy
> of a Wrangler?
>
> A lot of the Wranglers have been lifted. Does lifting the Wrangler
> reduce its life, or cause other problems?
>
> If anyone has any comments, I'd sure appreciate hearing them.
>
> Also, I think I'd rather get the 4 cylinder engine because I'm in no
> hurry to get anywhere, and hopefully the 4 cyl. engine gets better
> mileage. Any comments on 4 vs. 6 cylinder. (My favorite engine is a
> straight six, like in my Dodge Ram diesel.)
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> The Rocket Man

Re: Want to buy my first Jeep Wrangler.
 

Treated well, 200,000 miles plus.
Got for the 6 cylinder 4 litre; the gas mileage isn't that different and the
4 cylinder can't get out its own way. Plus the engine is remarkably durable
and torquey.
A lifted Wrangler will have more wear on the drivetrain, hubs, steering
components most likely.

For your requirements, I'd be looking at an XJ (Cherokee) to be honest - you
can't fit much in a Wrangler. Certainly not skis, and I guess you would
struggle a bit to attach them outside with a soft-top.

Dave Milne, Scotland

"Giskard Reventlov" <Tokaloo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns999DA443CE103GiskardReventlov@216.196.97.1 36...
> Hello Everybody,
>
> I'm looking to purchase my first Jeep Wrangler.
>
> Don't want to get anything too fancy, or too tricked up. My wife and I
> will use it for hiking and camping trips, and for driving on snow covered
> roads and skiiing trips.
>
> I went to my local Jeep dealer and they had a nice new model with minimal
> bells and whistles for about $20K. Too much for me to afford, so I'll
> probably have to get a used Wrangler.
>
> I've seen them advertised on Craigslist, etc., in my price range.
> Usually these are mid- to late-nineties.
>
> Most of these seem to have about 100K miles. What is the life expectancy
> of a Wrangler?
>
> A lot of the Wranglers have been lifted. Does lifting the Wrangler
> reduce its life, or cause other problems?
>
> If anyone has any comments, I'd sure appreciate hearing them.
>
> Also, I think I'd rather get the 4 cylinder engine because I'm in no
> hurry to get anywhere, and hopefully the 4 cyl. engine gets better
> mileage. Any comments on 4 vs. 6 cylinder. (My favorite engine is a
> straight six, like in my Dodge Ram diesel.)
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> The Rocket Man

Re: Want to buy my first Jeep Wrangler.
 

Treated well, 200,000 miles plus.
Got for the 6 cylinder 4 litre; the gas mileage isn't that different and the
4 cylinder can't get out its own way. Plus the engine is remarkably durable
and torquey.
A lifted Wrangler will have more wear on the drivetrain, hubs, steering
components most likely.

For your requirements, I'd be looking at an XJ (Cherokee) to be honest - you
can't fit much in a Wrangler. Certainly not skis, and I guess you would
struggle a bit to attach them outside with a soft-top.

Dave Milne, Scotland

"Giskard Reventlov" <Tokaloo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns999DA443CE103GiskardReventlov@216.196.97.1 36...
> Hello Everybody,
>
> I'm looking to purchase my first Jeep Wrangler.
>
> Don't want to get anything too fancy, or too tricked up. My wife and I
> will use it for hiking and camping trips, and for driving on snow covered
> roads and skiiing trips.
>
> I went to my local Jeep dealer and they had a nice new model with minimal
> bells and whistles for about $20K. Too much for me to afford, so I'll
> probably have to get a used Wrangler.
>
> I've seen them advertised on Craigslist, etc., in my price range.
> Usually these are mid- to late-nineties.
>
> Most of these seem to have about 100K miles. What is the life expectancy
> of a Wrangler?
>
> A lot of the Wranglers have been lifted. Does lifting the Wrangler
> reduce its life, or cause other problems?
>
> If anyone has any comments, I'd sure appreciate hearing them.
>
> Also, I think I'd rather get the 4 cylinder engine because I'm in no
> hurry to get anywhere, and hopefully the 4 cyl. engine gets better
> mileage. Any comments on 4 vs. 6 cylinder. (My favorite engine is a
> straight six, like in my Dodge Ram diesel.)
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> The Rocket Man

Re: Want to buy my first Jeep Wrangler.
 

On Aug 31, 7:20 pm, "Dave Milne" <jeep@_removethisbit_milne.info>
wrote:
> Treated well, 200,000 miles plus.
> Got for the 6 cylinder 4 litre; the gas mileage isn't that different and the
> 4 cylinder can't get out its own way. Plus the engine is remarkably durable
> and torquey.
> A lifted Wrangler will have more wear on the drivetrain, hubs, steering
> components most likely.
>
> For your requirements, I'd be looking at an XJ (Cherokee) to be honest - you
> can't fit much in a Wrangler. Certainly not skis, and I guess you would
> struggle a bit to attach them outside with a soft-top.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
>
> "Giskard Reventlov" <Toka...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:Xns999DA443CE103GiskardReventlov@216.196.97.1 36...
>
> > Hello Everybody,
>
> > I'm looking to purchase my first Jeep Wrangler.
>
> > Don't want to get anything too fancy, or too tricked up. My wife and I
> > will use it for hiking and camping trips, and for driving on snow covered
> > roads and skiiing trips.
>
> > I went to my local Jeep dealer and they had a nice new model with minimal
> > bells and whistles for about $20K. Too much for me to afford, so I'll
> > probably have to get a used Wrangler.
>
> > I've seen them advertised on Craigslist, etc., in my price range.
> > Usually these are mid- to late-nineties.
>
> > Most of these seem to have about 100K miles. What is the life expectancy
> > of a Wrangler?
>
> > A lot of the Wranglers have been lifted. Does lifting the Wrangler
> > reduce its life, or cause other problems?
>
> > If anyone has any comments, I'd sure appreciate hearing them.
>
> > Also, I think I'd rather get the 4 cylinder engine because I'm in no
> > hurry to get anywhere, and hopefully the 4 cyl. engine gets better
> > mileage. Any comments on 4 vs. 6 cylinder. (My favorite engine is a
> > straight six, like in my Dodge Ram diesel.)
>
> > Thanks in advance.
>
> > The Rocket Man
Like Dave said go for a 6 cyl.
You could remove the rear seat to fit more stuff, but Wranglers don't
hold a lot.

I would look for a stock rig not a lifted one as you don't know if the
prior owner did the lift the right way.
Lifts mean bigger tires, depending on the lift size and tire size a
SYE could be needed as well as new axles/gearing.
For what you describe a stock rig would do fine. As Dave said a
Cherokee may be better suited to you needs.

Re: Want to buy my first Jeep Wrangler.
 

On Aug 31, 7:20 pm, "Dave Milne" <jeep@_removethisbit_milne.info>
wrote:
> Treated well, 200,000 miles plus.
> Got for the 6 cylinder 4 litre; the gas mileage isn't that different and the
> 4 cylinder can't get out its own way. Plus the engine is remarkably durable
> and torquey.
> A lifted Wrangler will have more wear on the drivetrain, hubs, steering
> components most likely.
>
> For your requirements, I'd be looking at an XJ (Cherokee) to be honest - you
> can't fit much in a Wrangler. Certainly not skis, and I guess you would
> struggle a bit to attach them outside with a soft-top.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
>
> "Giskard Reventlov" <Toka...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:Xns999DA443CE103GiskardReventlov@216.196.97.1 36...
>
> > Hello Everybody,
>
> > I'm looking to purchase my first Jeep Wrangler.
>
> > Don't want to get anything too fancy, or too tricked up. My wife and I
> > will use it for hiking and camping trips, and for driving on snow covered
> > roads and skiiing trips.
>
> > I went to my local Jeep dealer and they had a nice new model with minimal
> > bells and whistles for about $20K. Too much for me to afford, so I'll
> > probably have to get a used Wrangler.
>
> > I've seen them advertised on Craigslist, etc., in my price range.
> > Usually these are mid- to late-nineties.
>
> > Most of these seem to have about 100K miles. What is the life expectancy
> > of a Wrangler?
>
> > A lot of the Wranglers have been lifted. Does lifting the Wrangler
> > reduce its life, or cause other problems?
>
> > If anyone has any comments, I'd sure appreciate hearing them.
>
> > Also, I think I'd rather get the 4 cylinder engine because I'm in no
> > hurry to get anywhere, and hopefully the 4 cyl. engine gets better
> > mileage. Any comments on 4 vs. 6 cylinder. (My favorite engine is a
> > straight six, like in my Dodge Ram diesel.)
>
> > Thanks in advance.
>
> > The Rocket Man
Like Dave said go for a 6 cyl.
You could remove the rear seat to fit more stuff, but Wranglers don't
hold a lot.

I would look for a stock rig not a lifted one as you don't know if the
prior owner did the lift the right way.
Lifts mean bigger tires, depending on the lift size and tire size a
SYE could be needed as well as new axles/gearing.
For what you describe a stock rig would do fine. As Dave said a
Cherokee may be better suited to you needs.

Re: Want to buy my first Jeep Wrangler.
 

On Aug 31, 7:20 pm, "Dave Milne" <jeep@_removethisbit_milne.info>
wrote:
> Treated well, 200,000 miles plus.
> Got for the 6 cylinder 4 litre; the gas mileage isn't that different and the
> 4 cylinder can't get out its own way. Plus the engine is remarkably durable
> and torquey.
> A lifted Wrangler will have more wear on the drivetrain, hubs, steering
> components most likely.
>
> For your requirements, I'd be looking at an XJ (Cherokee) to be honest - you
> can't fit much in a Wrangler. Certainly not skis, and I guess you would
> struggle a bit to attach them outside with a soft-top.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
>
> "Giskard Reventlov" <Toka...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:Xns999DA443CE103GiskardReventlov@216.196.97.1 36...
>
> > Hello Everybody,
>
> > I'm looking to purchase my first Jeep Wrangler.
>
> > Don't want to get anything too fancy, or too tricked up. My wife and I
> > will use it for hiking and camping trips, and for driving on snow covered
> > roads and skiiing trips.
>
> > I went to my local Jeep dealer and they had a nice new model with minimal
> > bells and whistles for about $20K. Too much for me to afford, so I'll
> > probably have to get a used Wrangler.
>
> > I've seen them advertised on Craigslist, etc., in my price range.
> > Usually these are mid- to late-nineties.
>
> > Most of these seem to have about 100K miles. What is the life expectancy
> > of a Wrangler?
>
> > A lot of the Wranglers have been lifted. Does lifting the Wrangler
> > reduce its life, or cause other problems?
>
> > If anyone has any comments, I'd sure appreciate hearing them.
>
> > Also, I think I'd rather get the 4 cylinder engine because I'm in no
> > hurry to get anywhere, and hopefully the 4 cyl. engine gets better
> > mileage. Any comments on 4 vs. 6 cylinder. (My favorite engine is a
> > straight six, like in my Dodge Ram diesel.)
>
> > Thanks in advance.
>
> > The Rocket Man
Like Dave said go for a 6 cyl.
You could remove the rear seat to fit more stuff, but Wranglers don't
hold a lot.

I would look for a stock rig not a lifted one as you don't know if the
prior owner did the lift the right way.
Lifts mean bigger tires, depending on the lift size and tire size a
SYE could be needed as well as new axles/gearing.
For what you describe a stock rig would do fine. As Dave said a
Cherokee may be better suited to you needs.

Re: Want to buy my first Jeep Wrangler.
 

On Aug 31, 7:20 pm, "Dave Milne" <jeep@_removethisbit_milne.info>
wrote:
> Treated well, 200,000 miles plus.
> Got for the 6 cylinder 4 litre; the gas mileage isn't that different and the
> 4 cylinder can't get out its own way. Plus the engine is remarkably durable
> and torquey.
> A lifted Wrangler will have more wear on the drivetrain, hubs, steering
> components most likely.
>
> For your requirements, I'd be looking at an XJ (Cherokee) to be honest - you
> can't fit much in a Wrangler. Certainly not skis, and I guess you would
> struggle a bit to attach them outside with a soft-top.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
>
> "Giskard Reventlov" <Toka...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:Xns999DA443CE103GiskardReventlov@216.196.97.1 36...
>
> > Hello Everybody,
>
> > I'm looking to purchase my first Jeep Wrangler.
>
> > Don't want to get anything too fancy, or too tricked up. My wife and I
> > will use it for hiking and camping trips, and for driving on snow covered
> > roads and skiiing trips.
>
> > I went to my local Jeep dealer and they had a nice new model with minimal
> > bells and whistles for about $20K. Too much for me to afford, so I'll
> > probably have to get a used Wrangler.
>
> > I've seen them advertised on Craigslist, etc., in my price range.
> > Usually these are mid- to late-nineties.
>
> > Most of these seem to have about 100K miles. What is the life expectancy
> > of a Wrangler?
>
> > A lot of the Wranglers have been lifted. Does lifting the Wrangler
> > reduce its life, or cause other problems?
>
> > If anyone has any comments, I'd sure appreciate hearing them.
>
> > Also, I think I'd rather get the 4 cylinder engine because I'm in no
> > hurry to get anywhere, and hopefully the 4 cyl. engine gets better
> > mileage. Any comments on 4 vs. 6 cylinder. (My favorite engine is a
> > straight six, like in my Dodge Ram diesel.)
>
> > Thanks in advance.
>
> > The Rocket Man
Like Dave said go for a 6 cyl.
You could remove the rear seat to fit more stuff, but Wranglers don't
hold a lot.

I would look for a stock rig not a lifted one as you don't know if the
prior owner did the lift the right way.
Lifts mean bigger tires, depending on the lift size and tire size a
SYE could be needed as well as new axles/gearing.
For what you describe a stock rig would do fine. As Dave said a
Cherokee may be better suited to you needs.

Re: Want to buy my first Jeep Wrangler.
 

If you can afford it, get the six. The 4cyl is ok, but the six is always
better. I'll third the Cherokee XJ reccomendation. Cheap, relaible, and a
ton of fun. Wranglers are all of the above except not cheap.

Carl


"Giskard Reventlov" <Tokaloo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns999DA443CE103GiskardReventlov@216.196.97.1 36...
> Hello Everybody,
>
> I'm looking to purchase my first Jeep Wrangler.
>
> Don't want to get anything too fancy, or too tricked up. My wife and I
> will use it for hiking and camping trips, and for driving on snow covered
> roads and skiiing trips.
>
> I went to my local Jeep dealer and they had a nice new model with minimal
> bells and whistles for about $20K. Too much for me to afford, so I'll
> probably have to get a used Wrangler.
>
> I've seen them advertised on Craigslist, etc., in my price range.
> Usually these are mid- to late-nineties.
>
> Most of these seem to have about 100K miles. What is the life expectancy
> of a Wrangler?
>
> A lot of the Wranglers have been lifted. Does lifting the Wrangler
> reduce its life, or cause other problems?
>
> If anyone has any comments, I'd sure appreciate hearing them.
>
> Also, I think I'd rather get the 4 cylinder engine because I'm in no
> hurry to get anywhere, and hopefully the 4 cyl. engine gets better
> mileage. Any comments on 4 vs. 6 cylinder. (My favorite engine is a
> straight six, like in my Dodge Ram diesel.)
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> The Rocket Man