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reynir 08-14-2003 04:08 PM

Violent shaking
 
Hi,
I've recently started driving a 97' make of a Wrangler TJ on a 33"
tires and a lift (rough country), and if I'm driving at around 55mph
and hit a bump sometimes get shaking that starts small and then get's
larger, and doesn't stop untill I've slowed down to 20mph or so.

I've been doing some research on the internet about this problem, and
from what I've read in this newsgroup it sounds like it could be Death
Wobble.. This shaking can get very violent, especially if you cannot
stop right away. But... It feels like it's comming from the back of
the car, but not the front. and the car is definatly not bouncing
around, and I dont feel alot of the shaking in the steering wheel.

Does this sound like a DW description to you or something totally
different ?

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 08-14-2003 05:35 PM

Re: Violent shaking
 
You are describing the shimmy common to live axles tied together
with a tie rod. You probably have alignment problems along with loose
parts, but a new steering stabilizer shock absorber will solve your
shake: http://www.jcwhitney.com/product.jht...166895&BQ=jcw2
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

reynir wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I've recently started driving a 97' make of a Wrangler TJ on a 33"
> tires and a lift (rough country), and if I'm driving at around 55mph
> and hit a bump sometimes get shaking that starts small and then get's
> larger, and doesn't stop untill I've slowed down to 20mph or so.
>
> I've been doing some research on the internet about this problem, and
> from what I've read in this newsgroup it sounds like it could be Death
> Wobble.. This shaking can get very violent, especially if you cannot
> stop right away. But... It feels like it's comming from the back of
> the car, but not the front. and the car is definatly not bouncing
> around, and I dont feel alot of the shaking in the steering wheel.
>
> Does this sound like a DW description to you or something totally
> different ?


Roy Jenson 08-14-2003 08:37 PM

Re: Violent shaking
 
Bill is correct in the underlying problem but don't just mask it with a
quick fix, it will come back to haunt you later.

Typical is big tires, slightly out of balance, loose ball joints, tie rod
ends or tracj bar fittings, and a bad alginment. Hit a bump, the tires start
to precess (wobble) around a different point than the axle bearings. The
loose parts don't let you get control back. Ugly at 60mph.

Bring it to an alingment place that knows what to do with solid axle 4x4
trucks, have them check for loose parts, check the alignment, and balance
the tires.

"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:

> You are describing the shimmy common to live axles tied together
> with a tie rod. You probably have alignment problems along with loose
> parts, but a new steering stabilizer shock absorber will solve your
> shake: http://www.jcwhitney.com/product.jht...166895&BQ=jcw2
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> reynir wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> > I've recently started driving a 97' make of a Wrangler TJ on a 33"
> > tires and a lift (rough country), and if I'm driving at around 55mph
> > and hit a bump sometimes get shaking that starts small and then get's
> > larger, and doesn't stop untill I've slowed down to 20mph or so.
> >
> > I've been doing some research on the internet about this problem, and
> > from what I've read in this newsgroup it sounds like it could be Death
> > Wobble.. This shaking can get very violent, especially if you cannot
> > stop right away. But... It feels like it's comming from the back of
> > the car, but not the front. and the car is definatly not bouncing
> > around, and I dont feel alot of the shaking in the steering wheel.
> >
> > Does this sound like a DW description to you or something totally
> > different ?



Kevin in San Diego 08-15-2003 03:06 AM

Re: Violent shaking
 
Bump Steer.

"Roy Jenson" <rkjenson@qwest.net> wrote in message
news:3F3C2B62.5F85C20F@qwest.net...
Bill is correct in the underlying problem but don't just mask it with a
quick fix, it will come back to haunt you later.
Typical is big tires, slightly out of balance, loose ball joints, tie rod
ends or tracj bar fittings, and a bad alginment. Hit a bump, the tires start
to precess (wobble) around a different point than the axle bearings. The
loose parts don't let you get control back. Ugly at 60mph.
Bring it to an alingment place that knows what to do with solid axle 4x4
trucks, have them check for loose parts, check the alignment, and balance
the tires.
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
You are describing the shimmy common to live axles tied together
with a tie rod. You probably have alignment problems along with loose
parts, but a new steering stabilizer shock absorber will solve your
shake: http://www.jcwhitney.com/product.jht...166895&BQ=jcw2
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
reynir wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I've recently started driving a 97' make of a Wrangler TJ on a 33"
> tires and a lift (rough country), and if I'm driving at around 55mph
> and hit a bump sometimes get shaking that starts small and then get's
> larger, and doesn't stop untill I've slowed down to 20mph or so.
>
> I've been doing some research on the internet about this problem, and
> from what I've read in this newsgroup it sounds like it could be Death
> Wobble.. This shaking can get very violent, especially if you cannot
> stop right away. But... It feels like it's comming from the back of
> the car, but not the front. and the car is definatly not bouncing
> around, and I dont feel alot of the shaking in the steering wheel.
>
> Does this sound like a DW description to you or something totally
> different ?




reynir 08-15-2003 05:40 AM

Re: Violent shaking
 
Thanx guys, for your answers, I was guessing loose parts was the
problem, I also talked with the previous owner of the car, and he told
me that this was something he had experienced and was fixed by
fastening some bolts in the suspension in the back, he did not go into
specific details on it though...


-reynir


Roy Jenson <rkjenson@qwest.net> wrote in message news:<3F3C2B62.5F85C20F@qwest.net>...
> Bill is correct in the underlying problem but don't just mask it with a
> quick fix, it will come back to haunt you later.
>
> Typical is big tires, slightly out of balance, loose ball joints, tie rod=
>
> ends or tracj bar fittings, and a bad alginment. Hit a bump, the tires st=
> art
> to precess (wobble) around a different point than the axle bearings. The
> loose parts don't let you get control back. Ugly at 60mph.
>
> Bring it to an alingment place that knows what to do with solid axle 4x4
> trucks, have them check for loose parts, check the alignment, and balanc=
> e
> the tires.
>
> "L.W.(=DFill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> > You are describing the shimmy common to live axles tied together
> > with a tie rod. You probably have alignment problems along with loose
> > parts, but a new steering stabilizer shock absorber will solve your
> > shake: http://www.jcwhitney.com/product.jht...6895&BQ=3Djcw2
> > God Bless America, =DFill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > reynir wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > > I've recently started driving a 97' make of a Wrangler TJ on a 33"
> > > tires and a lift (rough country), and if I'm driving at around 55mph
> > > and hit a bump sometimes get shaking that starts small and then get's=

>
> > > larger, and doesn't stop untill I've slowed down to 20mph or so.
> > >
> > > I've been doing some research on the internet about this problem, and=

>
> > > from what I've read in this newsgroup it sounds like it could be Deat=

> h
> > > Wobble.. This shaking can get very violent, especially if you cannot
> > > stop right away. But... It feels like it's comming from the back of
> > > the car, but not the front. and the car is definatly not bouncing
> > > around, and I dont feel alot of the shaking in the steering wheel.
> > >
> > > Does this sound like a DW description to you or something totally
> > > different ?

>
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