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DougW 03-20-2005 06:03 PM

Re: Valve Spring Replacment - 97 Wrangler
 
L.W. ("ßill") ------ III did pass the time by typing:
> Hi Mick,
> You could be describing a crack in the header pipe, leaking
> exhaust. The height of procrastination:
> http://www.----------.com/brokenheader.jpg


That defines what was bugging me for a long time till the
weld at the lower union gave me a big smily on day.

> Mick Miller wrote:
>>
>> i am no getting a missfire.
>>
>> no smoke no loss of power...other than a bit of throttle crispness
>>
>> ........just this tappet like noise when reved ......





DougW 03-20-2005 06:03 PM

Re: Valve Spring Replacment - 97 Wrangler
 
L.W. ("ßill") ------ III did pass the time by typing:
> Hi Mick,
> You could be describing a crack in the header pipe, leaking
> exhaust. The height of procrastination:
> http://www.----------.com/brokenheader.jpg


That defines what was bugging me for a long time till the
weld at the lower union gave me a big smily on day.

> Mick Miller wrote:
>>
>> i am no getting a missfire.
>>
>> no smoke no loss of power...other than a bit of throttle crispness
>>
>> ........just this tappet like noise when reved ......





Mick Miller 03-21-2005 01:26 AM

Re: Valve Spring Replacment - 97 Wrangler
 


I do think i do have a small crack pn the header pipe aswell, but the
tappet noise i am hearing is from the head.

nice pic

>Hi Mick,
> You could be describing a crack in the header pipe, leaking
>exhaust. The height of procrastination:
>http://www.----------.com/brokenheader.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:--------------------
>
>Mick Miller wrote:
>>
>> i am no getting a missfire.
>>
>> no smoke no loss of power...other than a bit of throttle crispness
>>
>> ........just this tappet like noise when reved ......



Mick Miller 03-21-2005 01:26 AM

Re: Valve Spring Replacment - 97 Wrangler
 


I do think i do have a small crack pn the header pipe aswell, but the
tappet noise i am hearing is from the head.

nice pic

>Hi Mick,
> You could be describing a crack in the header pipe, leaking
>exhaust. The height of procrastination:
>http://www.----------.com/brokenheader.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:--------------------
>
>Mick Miller wrote:
>>
>> i am no getting a missfire.
>>
>> no smoke no loss of power...other than a bit of throttle crispness
>>
>> ........just this tappet like noise when reved ......



Mick Miller 03-21-2005 01:26 AM

Re: Valve Spring Replacment - 97 Wrangler
 


I do think i do have a small crack pn the header pipe aswell, but the
tappet noise i am hearing is from the head.

nice pic

>Hi Mick,
> You could be describing a crack in the header pipe, leaking
>exhaust. The height of procrastination:
>http://www.----------.com/brokenheader.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:--------------------
>
>Mick Miller wrote:
>>
>> i am no getting a missfire.
>>
>> no smoke no loss of power...other than a bit of throttle crispness
>>
>> ........just this tappet like noise when reved ......



L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 03-21-2005 01:42 AM

Re: Valve Spring Replacment - 97 Wrangler
 
Maybe a bent push rod. Take the cover off and twist them with your
fingers as it is running.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Mica Miller wrote:
>
> I do think i do have a small crack pn the header pipe aswell, but the
> tappet noise i am hearing is from the head.
>
> nice pic


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 03-21-2005 01:42 AM

Re: Valve Spring Replacment - 97 Wrangler
 
Maybe a bent push rod. Take the cover off and twist them with your
fingers as it is running.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Mica Miller wrote:
>
> I do think i do have a small crack pn the header pipe aswell, but the
> tappet noise i am hearing is from the head.
>
> nice pic


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 03-21-2005 01:42 AM

Re: Valve Spring Replacment - 97 Wrangler
 
Maybe a bent push rod. Take the cover off and twist them with your
fingers as it is running.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Mica Miller wrote:
>
> I do think i do have a small crack pn the header pipe aswell, but the
> tappet noise i am hearing is from the head.
>
> nice pic


Mike Romain 03-22-2005 10:02 AM

Re: Valve Spring Replacment - 97 Wrangler
 
I would be looking very closely at the exhaust header for a crack. They
do crack and make a lifter ticking noise at first.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Mick Miller wrote:
>
> i am no getting a missfire.
>
> no smoke no loss of power...other than a bit of throttle crispness
>
> ........just this tappet like noise when reved ......
>
> >The only way valve springs can make noise is if they're broken. If that's the
> >case, noise will be the least of your worries.
> >
> >More likely lifters are the cause. I think I'd try an additive like "Lifter
> >Free" before replacing them. Might save a few bucks if it works.
> >
> >The valve spring replacement that others have referenced here was only a part of
> >the fix for misfire problems. The actual problem was carbon buildup on the
> >exhaust valves causing them to be "slow to close", thus causing a misfire.
> >Stronger valve springs were to help overcome this problem.
> >
> >
> >
> >In message <1hjm311gbbkbn8fc6c5obge4fna42m4bfu@4ax.com>, "Mick Miller" wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>I have a wrangler 4ltr with very noise valve springs (think this was a
> >>known problem)
> >>
> >>how easy are they to replace and does the head need to come off?
> >>


Mike Romain 03-22-2005 10:02 AM

Re: Valve Spring Replacment - 97 Wrangler
 
I would be looking very closely at the exhaust header for a crack. They
do crack and make a lifter ticking noise at first.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Mick Miller wrote:
>
> i am no getting a missfire.
>
> no smoke no loss of power...other than a bit of throttle crispness
>
> ........just this tappet like noise when reved ......
>
> >The only way valve springs can make noise is if they're broken. If that's the
> >case, noise will be the least of your worries.
> >
> >More likely lifters are the cause. I think I'd try an additive like "Lifter
> >Free" before replacing them. Might save a few bucks if it works.
> >
> >The valve spring replacement that others have referenced here was only a part of
> >the fix for misfire problems. The actual problem was carbon buildup on the
> >exhaust valves causing them to be "slow to close", thus causing a misfire.
> >Stronger valve springs were to help overcome this problem.
> >
> >
> >
> >In message <1hjm311gbbkbn8fc6c5obge4fna42m4bfu@4ax.com>, "Mick Miller" wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>I have a wrangler 4ltr with very noise valve springs (think this was a
> >>known problem)
> >>
> >>how easy are they to replace and does the head need to come off?
> >>



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