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fraserwag 12-01-2007 01:53 PM

valve cover gasket replacement 94 cherokee
 
Hi All,

Picked up a cork gasket for this before looking at the service
manual. Per the manual:

The original grey gasket material should NOT be
removed. If sections of the gasket material are missing
or are compressed, replace the engine cylinder
head cover.

I'd rather not buy an entire head cover, when the gasket cost only 10
bucks. Has anyone done this repair, using a cork gasket,
successfully? Or am I just asking for trouble? I'm reluctant to just
use RTV.

Thx.

S.

L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 12-01-2007 02:08 PM

Re: valve cover gasket replacement 94 cherokee
 
Many here are not going to like this, saying the silicone will get loose
and clog your oil passages, but, I've found the only thing that works on
these valve covers is clean the suffices with a solvent that will not leave
a residue. I use alcohol,
gasoline is a no-no. Then I lay a bead of that blue silicone about the size
of a 1/4" rope in the middle of the gasket area and smear just enough around
each of the bolt holes. Then ease it down exactly on to the right position,
first time, no sliding, or you've wasted your time.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:----------@----------.com


"fraserwag" <fraserwag@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:5e68c7b8-44dd-4570-915c-e2c6cdfba6a2@e67g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
> Hi All,
>
> Picked up a cork gasket for this before looking at the service
> manual. Per the manual:
>
> The original grey gasket material should NOT be
> removed. If sections of the gasket material are missing
> or are compressed, replace the engine cylinder
> head cover.
>
> I'd rather not buy an entire head cover, when the gasket cost only 10
> bucks. Has anyone done this repair, using a cork gasket,
> successfully? Or am I just asking for trouble? I'm reluctant to just
> use RTV.
>
> Thx.
>
> S.




--
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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 12-01-2007 02:08 PM

Re: valve cover gasket replacement 94 cherokee
 
Many here are not going to like this, saying the silicone will get loose
and clog your oil passages, but, I've found the only thing that works on
these valve covers is clean the suffices with a solvent that will not leave
a residue. I use alcohol,
gasoline is a no-no. Then I lay a bead of that blue silicone about the size
of a 1/4" rope in the middle of the gasket area and smear just enough around
each of the bolt holes. Then ease it down exactly on to the right position,
first time, no sliding, or you've wasted your time.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:----------@----------.com


"fraserwag" <fraserwag@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:5e68c7b8-44dd-4570-915c-e2c6cdfba6a2@e67g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
> Hi All,
>
> Picked up a cork gasket for this before looking at the service
> manual. Per the manual:
>
> The original grey gasket material should NOT be
> removed. If sections of the gasket material are missing
> or are compressed, replace the engine cylinder
> head cover.
>
> I'd rather not buy an entire head cover, when the gasket cost only 10
> bucks. Has anyone done this repair, using a cork gasket,
> successfully? Or am I just asking for trouble? I'm reluctant to just
> use RTV.
>
> Thx.
>
> S.




--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com


=?iso-8859-1?q?Pink_Freud=A9=AE?= 12-01-2007 02:19 PM

Re: valve cover gasket replacement 94 cherokee
 
On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 10:53:54 -0800, fraserwag wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> Picked up a cork gasket for this before looking at the service
> manual. Per the manual:
>
> The original grey gasket material should NOT be
> removed. If sections of the gasket material are missing
> or are compressed, replace the engine cylinder
> head cover.
>
> I'd rather not buy an entire head cover, when the gasket cost only 10
> bucks. Has anyone done this repair, using a cork gasket,
> successfully? Or am I just asking for trouble? I'm reluctant to just
> use RTV.
>
> Thx.
>
> S.


Wait until someone other than Billie answers.

His information is not always accurate, occasionally quite dangerous,or is
as outdated as he is.

When Billie says

> Many here are not going to like this, saying the silicone will get loose
> and clog your oil passages


there's go reason to be wary. It appears that his 'hands-on' real-life
experience has been provided by Google and Fidonet for the last 20 years
or so.

There are experts here; listen to /them/ ans save yourself potential grief.



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=?iso-8859-1?q?Pink_Freud=A9=AE?= 12-01-2007 02:19 PM

Re: valve cover gasket replacement 94 cherokee
 
On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 10:53:54 -0800, fraserwag wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> Picked up a cork gasket for this before looking at the service
> manual. Per the manual:
>
> The original grey gasket material should NOT be
> removed. If sections of the gasket material are missing
> or are compressed, replace the engine cylinder
> head cover.
>
> I'd rather not buy an entire head cover, when the gasket cost only 10
> bucks. Has anyone done this repair, using a cork gasket,
> successfully? Or am I just asking for trouble? I'm reluctant to just
> use RTV.
>
> Thx.
>
> S.


Wait until someone other than Billie answers.

His information is not always accurate, occasionally quite dangerous,or is
as outdated as he is.

When Billie says

> Many here are not going to like this, saying the silicone will get loose
> and clog your oil passages


there's go reason to be wary. It appears that his 'hands-on' real-life
experience has been provided by Google and Fidonet for the last 20 years
or so.

There are experts here; listen to /them/ ans save yourself potential grief.



--
The preceding message was brought to you by ------ Brand® Yellow Chicken
Jerky, naturally agèd chicken strips, dehydrated over a burn-barrel and
lightly seasoned with our secret unknown spices. Yummy!

Available at your grocer's in the odd-snacks section, at your favourite
bait shop, and select armaments dealers.

And also try our new 'Hershey Highway' Fecal Jerky -- it'll turn your
tastes around, fer shure!

(Caution: may contain actual bits of food.)


Lon Stowell 12-01-2007 02:22 PM

Re: valve cover gasket replacement 94 cherokee
 
fraserwag wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Picked up a cork gasket for this before looking at the service
> manual. Per the manual:
>
> The original grey gasket material should NOT be
> removed. If sections of the gasket material are missing
> or are compressed, replace the engine cylinder
> head cover.


Is this that cheap plastic cover? They get old and cannot seal
properly. Plus it is warning you against getting loose pieces of the
old gasket left around where they can get into oil passages.
>
> I'd rather not buy an entire head cover, when the gasket cost only 10
> bucks. Has anyone done this repair, using a cork gasket,
> successfully? Or am I just asking for trouble? I'm reluctant to just
> use RTV.


Take the old cover, clean the heck out of it, dont scratch it in the
process. Then some folks cheat and rtv the new gasket to the
cover...and when installing the result, add more rtv to the top of the
engine where it mates. Some use formagasket. Be sure to clean the top
of the engine carefully so you dont dislodge particles that can get into
your oil passages, then wipe it as dry as you can, then clean it with a
lint free [love those microfiber] rag to get all the oil off and dry
it carefully.


Lon Stowell 12-01-2007 02:22 PM

Re: valve cover gasket replacement 94 cherokee
 
fraserwag wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Picked up a cork gasket for this before looking at the service
> manual. Per the manual:
>
> The original grey gasket material should NOT be
> removed. If sections of the gasket material are missing
> or are compressed, replace the engine cylinder
> head cover.


Is this that cheap plastic cover? They get old and cannot seal
properly. Plus it is warning you against getting loose pieces of the
old gasket left around where they can get into oil passages.
>
> I'd rather not buy an entire head cover, when the gasket cost only 10
> bucks. Has anyone done this repair, using a cork gasket,
> successfully? Or am I just asking for trouble? I'm reluctant to just
> use RTV.


Take the old cover, clean the heck out of it, dont scratch it in the
process. Then some folks cheat and rtv the new gasket to the
cover...and when installing the result, add more rtv to the top of the
engine where it mates. Some use formagasket. Be sure to clean the top
of the engine carefully so you dont dislodge particles that can get into
your oil passages, then wipe it as dry as you can, then clean it with a
lint free [love those microfiber] rag to get all the oil off and dry
it carefully.


L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 12-01-2007 02:51 PM

Re: valve cover gasket replacement 94 cherokee
 
This from the biggest spammer of them all! The jealous, really weak
jealous, I can't believe how jealous this little draft dodging coward
schizophrenic psychopath liar was hiding in Vancouver via
S0106000ea6ba70e7.vn.shawcable.net 24.86.24.251 intrepidator@shaw.ca until I
killed it. Now he's using another IP of 24.80.200.127
s0106000ea6ba70e7.vc.shawcable.net who's only way to get attention is to
make a fool of its self using foul language, like it did back in elementary
school yard. But, too afraid to use it's name and address, and take on
responsibility like a grown up. With an obsession with perverts and goats,
where it writes via remailers, @news.alt.net, and cross posts to other
perverts to no one's surprise. With extreme jealous ranting over my
documents, possessions, successes, manliness and fine, Southern California
surfing body, beard, and loving Christian family. Committing forgery over
many of my posts, proving I'm a responsible American man. You remind me of a
little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its senseless barking, me too,
me too. You're even more senile than I first thought. And the poor thing,
you're too girlie to take responsibility for yourself again, by signing your
statement like a man.
That really thinks the group's members are so stupid not to know it's
the same coward, posting over and over again using a schizophrenic
psychopath forged up names?
You're not worth any more time when a cut and paste this same
paragraphs it fits so well!
But, now worth a forwarding to: internet.help@shaw.ca,
security@shaw.ca, abuse@shaw.ca, internet.abuse@sjrb.ca, abuse@aioe.org,
admin@cox.net for forgery.
Who said it also likes baby monkeys sucking their -----, like his buddy
posted on an auto picture group at:
news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com
I thought this traitor's attacks were just over personal disagreements,
but in reality these attacks stemming from my love of God and America on
Independents Week, I realized you are actually attacking my country, and
that's what you've been doing all along is declaring your hatred for the
United States of America, with each declaration of my signature, but just
too cowardly and stupid to be a ---------. It's America, love it, or leave
it, so keep the f*ck out!
Or let me know when you cross my American border, so I may arrest you!
YOU ARE A TRAITOR and lost all rights to my American border, and
someday I'll have you in jail where you belong! Any time, I'll fly and meant
with other patriots guarding our borders against vermin like you.
Why don't you call the San Diego Sheriffs Department at 858-974-2020
YOU NEED HELP!
The moral majority say you are not only faggots, but cowards
You wouldn't know about business as you have never succeeded and
anything.
Tell me when you are about to cross my American border and I'll fly up
and arrange at meeting with the U.S. Border patrol and Minutemen for your
arrest, after you give me your name, address, date, and meeting place.
I would appreciate the name and address of these trolls, Square Wheel:
shaw.ca 24.80.200.127 s0106000ea6ba70e7.vc.shawcable.net
intrepidator@shaw.ca and 24bit: 12.205.158.32 AT&T WorldNet Services ATT
Mediacom Communications Corp. I will keep your name in confidence, kindly
email -------------------- or LW------@------.net
Sincerely,
Llewellyn W. (Bill) ------ III
Fortunately it is against the law for you to own a firearm.
You are the one that ran to Canada from your obligation to the U.S.
Military! YOU ARE A TRAITOR and a COWARD!!!!!!
Totally lacking in common sense. You pathetic little schizophrenic
psychopath, you make me laugh the way a girlie, ------ writes, it gives me a
feeling of extreme superiority! <ROTFLMAO>
And you think the news members won't catch on and be able to see your
pursuing fag names, as fake as you.
Just making sure the faggots at: alt.binaries.pictures.autos,
alt.binaries.automobile.pictures groups know what an a**hole you, aka SW
really are!!!!!
God, where do they find these REALLY STUPID queer traitors keep
following me around? With even more jealous girlie maricón acosador
gibberish/babbling
You pathetic little schizophrenic psychopath, you make me laugh the way a
girlie, ------ writes, it gives me a feeling of extreme superiority!
<ROTFLMAO>
Shaw promised me YOU would never do it again, of course that was you old
24.86.24.251 IP, wanta try for 24.80.200.127? <ROTFLMAO>
http://network-tools.com/default.asp...=24.80.200.127
"The IP address from which you have visited register.com has been
temporarily blocked due to its association with excessive queries on our
system. Register.com has blocked this IP address in order to prevent any
adverse impact to our systems which could prevent other WHOIS requests from
being properly processed."
Hehehe, keep'em coming. :-) Maybe, a little more language, and
pornography in an original post, coward.
Here this traitor is jealous of my twenty years of being a class "A"
SMOG installer and station: http://----------.com/chevron.htm But that's
expected by someone that can only drive a intrepid a Japanese designed front
wheel drive POS.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:----------@----------.com


"Pink Freud©®" <drive-in-lobotomies@trepanation.calm> wrote in message
news:pan.2007.12.01.16.20.31.854307@trepanation.ca lm...
>
> there's go reason to be wary. It appears that his 'hands-on' real-life
> experience has been provided by Google and Fidonet for the last 20 years
> or so.
>
> There are experts here; listen to /them/ ans save yourself potential

grief.
>
>
>
> --






L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 12-01-2007 02:51 PM

Re: valve cover gasket replacement 94 cherokee
 
This from the biggest spammer of them all! The jealous, really weak
jealous, I can't believe how jealous this little draft dodging coward
schizophrenic psychopath liar was hiding in Vancouver via
S0106000ea6ba70e7.vn.shawcable.net 24.86.24.251 intrepidator@shaw.ca until I
killed it. Now he's using another IP of 24.80.200.127
s0106000ea6ba70e7.vc.shawcable.net who's only way to get attention is to
make a fool of its self using foul language, like it did back in elementary
school yard. But, too afraid to use it's name and address, and take on
responsibility like a grown up. With an obsession with perverts and goats,
where it writes via remailers, @news.alt.net, and cross posts to other
perverts to no one's surprise. With extreme jealous ranting over my
documents, possessions, successes, manliness and fine, Southern California
surfing body, beard, and loving Christian family. Committing forgery over
many of my posts, proving I'm a responsible American man. You remind me of a
little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its senseless barking, me too,
me too. You're even more senile than I first thought. And the poor thing,
you're too girlie to take responsibility for yourself again, by signing your
statement like a man.
That really thinks the group's members are so stupid not to know it's
the same coward, posting over and over again using a schizophrenic
psychopath forged up names?
You're not worth any more time when a cut and paste this same
paragraphs it fits so well!
But, now worth a forwarding to: internet.help@shaw.ca,
security@shaw.ca, abuse@shaw.ca, internet.abuse@sjrb.ca, abuse@aioe.org,
admin@cox.net for forgery.
Who said it also likes baby monkeys sucking their -----, like his buddy
posted on an auto picture group at:
news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com
I thought this traitor's attacks were just over personal disagreements,
but in reality these attacks stemming from my love of God and America on
Independents Week, I realized you are actually attacking my country, and
that's what you've been doing all along is declaring your hatred for the
United States of America, with each declaration of my signature, but just
too cowardly and stupid to be a ---------. It's America, love it, or leave
it, so keep the f*ck out!
Or let me know when you cross my American border, so I may arrest you!
YOU ARE A TRAITOR and lost all rights to my American border, and
someday I'll have you in jail where you belong! Any time, I'll fly and meant
with other patriots guarding our borders against vermin like you.
Why don't you call the San Diego Sheriffs Department at 858-974-2020
YOU NEED HELP!
The moral majority say you are not only faggots, but cowards
You wouldn't know about business as you have never succeeded and
anything.
Tell me when you are about to cross my American border and I'll fly up
and arrange at meeting with the U.S. Border patrol and Minutemen for your
arrest, after you give me your name, address, date, and meeting place.
I would appreciate the name and address of these trolls, Square Wheel:
shaw.ca 24.80.200.127 s0106000ea6ba70e7.vc.shawcable.net
intrepidator@shaw.ca and 24bit: 12.205.158.32 AT&T WorldNet Services ATT
Mediacom Communications Corp. I will keep your name in confidence, kindly
email -------------------- or LW------@------.net
Sincerely,
Llewellyn W. (Bill) ------ III
Fortunately it is against the law for you to own a firearm.
You are the one that ran to Canada from your obligation to the U.S.
Military! YOU ARE A TRAITOR and a COWARD!!!!!!
Totally lacking in common sense. You pathetic little schizophrenic
psychopath, you make me laugh the way a girlie, ------ writes, it gives me a
feeling of extreme superiority! <ROTFLMAO>
And you think the news members won't catch on and be able to see your
pursuing fag names, as fake as you.
Just making sure the faggots at: alt.binaries.pictures.autos,
alt.binaries.automobile.pictures groups know what an a**hole you, aka SW
really are!!!!!
God, where do they find these REALLY STUPID queer traitors keep
following me around? With even more jealous girlie maricón acosador
gibberish/babbling
You pathetic little schizophrenic psychopath, you make me laugh the way a
girlie, ------ writes, it gives me a feeling of extreme superiority!
<ROTFLMAO>
Shaw promised me YOU would never do it again, of course that was you old
24.86.24.251 IP, wanta try for 24.80.200.127? <ROTFLMAO>
http://network-tools.com/default.asp...=24.80.200.127
"The IP address from which you have visited register.com has been
temporarily blocked due to its association with excessive queries on our
system. Register.com has blocked this IP address in order to prevent any
adverse impact to our systems which could prevent other WHOIS requests from
being properly processed."
Hehehe, keep'em coming. :-) Maybe, a little more language, and
pornography in an original post, coward.
Here this traitor is jealous of my twenty years of being a class "A"
SMOG installer and station: http://----------.com/chevron.htm But that's
expected by someone that can only drive a intrepid a Japanese designed front
wheel drive POS.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:----------@----------.com


"Pink Freud©®" <drive-in-lobotomies@trepanation.calm> wrote in message
news:pan.2007.12.01.16.20.31.854307@trepanation.ca lm...
>
> there's go reason to be wary. It appears that his 'hands-on' real-life
> experience has been provided by Google and Fidonet for the last 20 years
> or so.
>
> There are experts here; listen to /them/ ans save yourself potential

grief.
>
>
>
> --






=?iso-8859-1?q?Pink_Freud=A9=AE?= 12-01-2007 03:37 PM

Re: valve cover gasket replacement 94 cherokee
 
On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 11:51:17 -0800, L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:

> This from the biggest spammer of them all! The jealous, really weak
> jealous, I can't believe how jealous this little draft dodging coward
> schizophrenic psychopath liar was hiding in Vancouver via
> S0106000ea6ba70e7.vn.shawcable.net 24.86.24.251 intrepidator@shaw.ca until I
> killed it. Now he's using another IP of 24.80.200.127
> s0106000ea6ba70e7.vc.shawcable.net who's only way to get attention is to
> make a fool of its self using foul language, like it did back in elementary
> school yard. But, too afraid to use it's name and address, and take on
> responsibility like a grown up. With an obsession with perverts and goats,
> where it writes via remailers, @news.alt.net, and cross posts to other
> perverts to no one's surprise. With extreme jealous ranting over my
> documents, possessions, successes, manliness and fine, Southern California
> surfing body, beard, and loving Christian family. Committing forgery over
> many of my posts, proving I'm a responsible American man. You remind me of a
> little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its senseless barking, me too,
> me too. You're even more senile than I first thought. And the poor thing,
> you're too girlie to take responsibility for yourself again, by signing your
> statement like a man.
> That really thinks the group's members are so stupid not to know it's
> the same coward, posting over and over again using a schizophrenic
> psychopath forged up names?
> You're not worth any more time when a cut and paste this same
> paragraphs it fits so well!
> But, now worth a forwarding to: internet.help@shaw.ca,
> security@shaw.ca, abuse@shaw.ca, internet.abuse@sjrb.ca, abuse@aioe.org,
> admin@cox.net for forgery.
> Who said it also likes baby monkeys sucking their -----, like his buddy
> posted on an auto picture group at:
> news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com
> I thought this traitor's attacks were just over personal disagreements,
> but in reality these attacks stemming from my love of God and America on
> Independents Week, I realized you are actually attacking my country, and
> that's what you've been doing all along is declaring your hatred for the
> United States of America, with each declaration of my signature, but just
> too cowardly and stupid to be a ---------. It's America, love it, or leave
> it, so keep the f*ck out!
> Or let me know when you cross my American border, so I may arrest you!
> YOU ARE A TRAITOR and lost all rights to my American border, and
> someday I'll have you in jail where you belong! Any time, I'll fly and meant
> with other patriots guarding our borders against vermin like you.
> Why don't you call the San Diego Sheriffs Department at 858-974-2020
> YOU NEED HELP!
> The moral majority say you are not only faggots, but cowards
> You wouldn't know about business as you have never succeeded and
> anything.
> Tell me when you are about to cross my American border and I'll fly up
> and arrange at meeting with the U.S. Border patrol and Minutemen for your
> arrest, after you give me your name, address, date, and meeting place.
> I would appreciate the name and address of these trolls, Square Wheel:
> shaw.ca 24.80.200.127 s0106000ea6ba70e7.vc.shawcable.net
> intrepidator@shaw.ca and 24bit: 12.205.158.32 AT&T WorldNet Services ATT
> Mediacom Communications Corp. I will keep your name in confidence, kindly
> email -------------------- or LW------@------.net
> Sincerely,
> Llewellyn W. (Bill) ------ III
> Fortunately it is against the law for you to own a firearm.
> You are the one that ran to Canada from your obligation to the U.S.
> Military! YOU ARE A TRAITOR and a COWARD!!!!!!
> Totally lacking in common sense. You pathetic little schizophrenic
> psychopath, you make me laugh the way a girlie, ------ writes, it gives me a
> feeling of extreme superiority! <ROTFLMAO>
> And you think the news members won't catch on and be able to see your
> pursuing fag names, as fake as you.
> Just making sure the faggots at: alt.binaries.pictures.autos,
> alt.binaries.automobile.pictures groups know what an a**hole you, aka SW
> really are!!!!!
> God, where do they find these REALLY STUPID queer traitors keep
> following me around? With even more jealous girlie maricón acosador
> gibberish/babbling
> You pathetic little schizophrenic psychopath, you make me laugh the way a
> girlie, ------ writes, it gives me a feeling of extreme superiority!
> <ROTFLMAO>
> Shaw promised me YOU would never do it again, of course that was you old
> 24.86.24.251 IP, wanta try for 24.80.200.127? <ROTFLMAO>
> http://network-tools.com/default.asp...=24.80.200.127
> "The IP address from which you have visited register.com has been
> temporarily blocked due to its association with excessive queries on our
> system. Register.com has blocked this IP address in order to prevent any
> adverse impact to our systems which could prevent other WHOIS requests from
> being properly processed."
> Hehehe, keep'em coming. :-) Maybe, a little more language, and
> pornography in an original post, coward.
> Here this traitor is jealous of my twenty years of being a class "A"
> SMOG installer and station: http://----------.com/chevron.htm But that's
> expected by someone that can only drive a intrepid a Japanese designed front
> wheel drive POS.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:----------@----------.com



Poor delusional useless old 'man'.

Billie, I've owned and driven things you couldn't keep on the road for
one city block even if you had 3 people helping you.

AFAIK, the only things with wheels that I can't drive are a unicycle
(never tried), a Monster Truck (no opportunity -- yet) and a locomotive.

As for my POS (Piece of Speed) 'Trep, your jealousy is showing more every
time you mention it. And you have every right and reason to be jealous.

And all this blather from you just because I gave someone some very sound
advice.

If you really knew your jeepery-stuff, you wouldn't be nearly so
defensive.

Face it, little boi, you've fallen and can't get up.

>
>
> "Pink Freud©®" <drive-in-lobotomies@trepanation.calm> wrote in message
> news:pan.2007.12.01.16.20.31.854307@trepanation.ca lm...
>>
>> there's go reason to be wary. It appears that his 'hands-on' real-life
>> experience has been provided by Google and Fidonet for the last 20
>> years or so.
>>
>> There are experts here; listen to /them/ ans save yourself potential

> grief.
>>
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