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Greg 01-07-2005 04:35 PM

Using clutch in water
 
Got my jeep stuck in about 2' of water, put it in reverse, backed out,
then went again and got through, but now my clutch makes a grinding
vibration at full pedal depression. After lots of reading I find out you
shouldn't use the clutch while water crossing, can get water or other stuff
between. So obviously that is what happened, so what do I do now? Is this
something like brakes that dry out with a bit of use, or something that
needs me to dissasemble 1/2 my vehicle to get clean.



L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 01-07-2005 05:12 PM

Re: Using clutch in water
 
Hi Greg,
I'd give it a little time to sling the mud out of it.
You'll need to drain the water from your axles.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Greg wrote:
>
> Got my jeep stuck in about 2' of water, put it in reverse, backed out,
> then went again and got through, but now my clutch makes a grinding
> vibration at full pedal depression. After lots of reading I find out you
> shouldn't use the clutch while water crossing, can get water or other stuff
> between. So obviously that is what happened, so what do I do now? Is this
> something like brakes that dry out with a bit of use, or something that
> needs me to dissasemble 1/2 my vehicle to get clean.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 01-07-2005 05:12 PM

Re: Using clutch in water
 
Hi Greg,
I'd give it a little time to sling the mud out of it.
You'll need to drain the water from your axles.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Greg wrote:
>
> Got my jeep stuck in about 2' of water, put it in reverse, backed out,
> then went again and got through, but now my clutch makes a grinding
> vibration at full pedal depression. After lots of reading I find out you
> shouldn't use the clutch while water crossing, can get water or other stuff
> between. So obviously that is what happened, so what do I do now? Is this
> something like brakes that dry out with a bit of use, or something that
> needs me to dissasemble 1/2 my vehicle to get clean.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 01-07-2005 05:12 PM

Re: Using clutch in water
 
Hi Greg,
I'd give it a little time to sling the mud out of it.
You'll need to drain the water from your axles.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Greg wrote:
>
> Got my jeep stuck in about 2' of water, put it in reverse, backed out,
> then went again and got through, but now my clutch makes a grinding
> vibration at full pedal depression. After lots of reading I find out you
> shouldn't use the clutch while water crossing, can get water or other stuff
> between. So obviously that is what happened, so what do I do now? Is this
> something like brakes that dry out with a bit of use, or something that
> needs me to dissasemble 1/2 my vehicle to get clean.


Mike Romain 01-07-2005 05:58 PM

Re: Using clutch in water
 
That sounds like you got a bit more than just water in there....

Was it clean water?

Mine has a plate on the bottom front of the bell housing that can be
removed for access. Enough I could get a hose in and wash the crud out.

I was riding shotgun with the first gent from here I went wheeling with
one trip in his TJ and he got stuck in a big puddle. I have photos of
that. We were the only ones on the trail so it wasn't mixed mud too
bad, but non the less it toasted his clutch. It had zip at first, then
after repeated slamming the pedal up from the floor it grabbed enough to
limp out. It then held to get home, but would slip under load.

Then comes the next gotcha, did you ever put a high water vent on your
tranny? If not, you should check the fluid ASAP for water. Stock they
only have a button vent.....

Water raises the fluid level and in the cold things can spin up in
neutral that aren't supposed to. Like when at -40 and dropping the
clutch down in neutral on a cold tranny will start the vehicle going
forward if you don't hold the brakes down.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Greg wrote:
>
> Got my jeep stuck in about 2' of water, put it in reverse, backed out,
> then went again and got through, but now my clutch makes a grinding
> vibration at full pedal depression. After lots of reading I find out you
> shouldn't use the clutch while water crossing, can get water or other stuff
> between. So obviously that is what happened, so what do I do now? Is this
> something like brakes that dry out with a bit of use, or something that
> needs me to dissasemble 1/2 my vehicle to get clean.


Mike Romain 01-07-2005 05:58 PM

Re: Using clutch in water
 
That sounds like you got a bit more than just water in there....

Was it clean water?

Mine has a plate on the bottom front of the bell housing that can be
removed for access. Enough I could get a hose in and wash the crud out.

I was riding shotgun with the first gent from here I went wheeling with
one trip in his TJ and he got stuck in a big puddle. I have photos of
that. We were the only ones on the trail so it wasn't mixed mud too
bad, but non the less it toasted his clutch. It had zip at first, then
after repeated slamming the pedal up from the floor it grabbed enough to
limp out. It then held to get home, but would slip under load.

Then comes the next gotcha, did you ever put a high water vent on your
tranny? If not, you should check the fluid ASAP for water. Stock they
only have a button vent.....

Water raises the fluid level and in the cold things can spin up in
neutral that aren't supposed to. Like when at -40 and dropping the
clutch down in neutral on a cold tranny will start the vehicle going
forward if you don't hold the brakes down.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Greg wrote:
>
> Got my jeep stuck in about 2' of water, put it in reverse, backed out,
> then went again and got through, but now my clutch makes a grinding
> vibration at full pedal depression. After lots of reading I find out you
> shouldn't use the clutch while water crossing, can get water or other stuff
> between. So obviously that is what happened, so what do I do now? Is this
> something like brakes that dry out with a bit of use, or something that
> needs me to dissasemble 1/2 my vehicle to get clean.


Mike Romain 01-07-2005 05:58 PM

Re: Using clutch in water
 
That sounds like you got a bit more than just water in there....

Was it clean water?

Mine has a plate on the bottom front of the bell housing that can be
removed for access. Enough I could get a hose in and wash the crud out.

I was riding shotgun with the first gent from here I went wheeling with
one trip in his TJ and he got stuck in a big puddle. I have photos of
that. We were the only ones on the trail so it wasn't mixed mud too
bad, but non the less it toasted his clutch. It had zip at first, then
after repeated slamming the pedal up from the floor it grabbed enough to
limp out. It then held to get home, but would slip under load.

Then comes the next gotcha, did you ever put a high water vent on your
tranny? If not, you should check the fluid ASAP for water. Stock they
only have a button vent.....

Water raises the fluid level and in the cold things can spin up in
neutral that aren't supposed to. Like when at -40 and dropping the
clutch down in neutral on a cold tranny will start the vehicle going
forward if you don't hold the brakes down.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Greg wrote:
>
> Got my jeep stuck in about 2' of water, put it in reverse, backed out,
> then went again and got through, but now my clutch makes a grinding
> vibration at full pedal depression. After lots of reading I find out you
> shouldn't use the clutch while water crossing, can get water or other stuff
> between. So obviously that is what happened, so what do I do now? Is this
> something like brakes that dry out with a bit of use, or something that
> needs me to dissasemble 1/2 my vehicle to get clean.


Greg 01-07-2005 08:47 PM

Re: Using clutch in water
 
No I never put a vent on tranny, saw that little button, tried to pull it
off to put on a vent but couldn't get it off, but besides a little splashing
I don't think water was that high, I figure if it's not coming in my floor
drains it's not over the little button vent. Clutch didn't slip at all, and
I only drove it about 1/2 mile home, will pull it out of garage tommorrow
and take off plate and give a rinse, puddle I went through was not exactly
clean, only saw one set of tracks going into it though so couldn't of been
stirred up too much, but I did stir it up a far bit trying to get out,
there's mud on my roof :)

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:41DF13FD.8991CF61@sympatico.ca...
> That sounds like you got a bit more than just water in there....
>
> Was it clean water?
>
> Mine has a plate on the bottom front of the bell housing that can be
> removed for access. Enough I could get a hose in and wash the crud out.
>
> I was riding shotgun with the first gent from here I went wheeling with
> one trip in his TJ and he got stuck in a big puddle. I have photos of
> that. We were the only ones on the trail so it wasn't mixed mud too
> bad, but non the less it toasted his clutch. It had zip at first, then
> after repeated slamming the pedal up from the floor it grabbed enough to
> limp out. It then held to get home, but would slip under load.
>
> Then comes the next gotcha, did you ever put a high water vent on your
> tranny? If not, you should check the fluid ASAP for water. Stock they
> only have a button vent.....
>
> Water raises the fluid level and in the cold things can spin up in
> neutral that aren't supposed to. Like when at -40 and dropping the
> clutch down in neutral on a cold tranny will start the vehicle going
> forward if you don't hold the brakes down.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Greg wrote:
>>
>> Got my jeep stuck in about 2' of water, put it in reverse, backed out,
>> then went again and got through, but now my clutch makes a grinding
>> vibration at full pedal depression. After lots of reading I find out you
>> shouldn't use the clutch while water crossing, can get water or other
>> stuff
>> between. So obviously that is what happened, so what do I do now? Is this
>> something like brakes that dry out with a bit of use, or something that
>> needs me to dissasemble 1/2 my vehicle to get clean.




Greg 01-07-2005 08:47 PM

Re: Using clutch in water
 
No I never put a vent on tranny, saw that little button, tried to pull it
off to put on a vent but couldn't get it off, but besides a little splashing
I don't think water was that high, I figure if it's not coming in my floor
drains it's not over the little button vent. Clutch didn't slip at all, and
I only drove it about 1/2 mile home, will pull it out of garage tommorrow
and take off plate and give a rinse, puddle I went through was not exactly
clean, only saw one set of tracks going into it though so couldn't of been
stirred up too much, but I did stir it up a far bit trying to get out,
there's mud on my roof :)

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:41DF13FD.8991CF61@sympatico.ca...
> That sounds like you got a bit more than just water in there....
>
> Was it clean water?
>
> Mine has a plate on the bottom front of the bell housing that can be
> removed for access. Enough I could get a hose in and wash the crud out.
>
> I was riding shotgun with the first gent from here I went wheeling with
> one trip in his TJ and he got stuck in a big puddle. I have photos of
> that. We were the only ones on the trail so it wasn't mixed mud too
> bad, but non the less it toasted his clutch. It had zip at first, then
> after repeated slamming the pedal up from the floor it grabbed enough to
> limp out. It then held to get home, but would slip under load.
>
> Then comes the next gotcha, did you ever put a high water vent on your
> tranny? If not, you should check the fluid ASAP for water. Stock they
> only have a button vent.....
>
> Water raises the fluid level and in the cold things can spin up in
> neutral that aren't supposed to. Like when at -40 and dropping the
> clutch down in neutral on a cold tranny will start the vehicle going
> forward if you don't hold the brakes down.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Greg wrote:
>>
>> Got my jeep stuck in about 2' of water, put it in reverse, backed out,
>> then went again and got through, but now my clutch makes a grinding
>> vibration at full pedal depression. After lots of reading I find out you
>> shouldn't use the clutch while water crossing, can get water or other
>> stuff
>> between. So obviously that is what happened, so what do I do now? Is this
>> something like brakes that dry out with a bit of use, or something that
>> needs me to dissasemble 1/2 my vehicle to get clean.




Greg 01-07-2005 08:47 PM

Re: Using clutch in water
 
No I never put a vent on tranny, saw that little button, tried to pull it
off to put on a vent but couldn't get it off, but besides a little splashing
I don't think water was that high, I figure if it's not coming in my floor
drains it's not over the little button vent. Clutch didn't slip at all, and
I only drove it about 1/2 mile home, will pull it out of garage tommorrow
and take off plate and give a rinse, puddle I went through was not exactly
clean, only saw one set of tracks going into it though so couldn't of been
stirred up too much, but I did stir it up a far bit trying to get out,
there's mud on my roof :)

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:41DF13FD.8991CF61@sympatico.ca...
> That sounds like you got a bit more than just water in there....
>
> Was it clean water?
>
> Mine has a plate on the bottom front of the bell housing that can be
> removed for access. Enough I could get a hose in and wash the crud out.
>
> I was riding shotgun with the first gent from here I went wheeling with
> one trip in his TJ and he got stuck in a big puddle. I have photos of
> that. We were the only ones on the trail so it wasn't mixed mud too
> bad, but non the less it toasted his clutch. It had zip at first, then
> after repeated slamming the pedal up from the floor it grabbed enough to
> limp out. It then held to get home, but would slip under load.
>
> Then comes the next gotcha, did you ever put a high water vent on your
> tranny? If not, you should check the fluid ASAP for water. Stock they
> only have a button vent.....
>
> Water raises the fluid level and in the cold things can spin up in
> neutral that aren't supposed to. Like when at -40 and dropping the
> clutch down in neutral on a cold tranny will start the vehicle going
> forward if you don't hold the brakes down.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Greg wrote:
>>
>> Got my jeep stuck in about 2' of water, put it in reverse, backed out,
>> then went again and got through, but now my clutch makes a grinding
>> vibration at full pedal depression. After lots of reading I find out you
>> shouldn't use the clutch while water crossing, can get water or other
>> stuff
>> between. So obviously that is what happened, so what do I do now? Is this
>> something like brakes that dry out with a bit of use, or something that
>> needs me to dissasemble 1/2 my vehicle to get clean.





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