Re: UK dealers aren't all bad all the time
 

Dave Milne wrote:
> Well, as long as you are happy ...
> That's still around £90/hr inc VAT at least assuming they have enough gall
> to charge you more than £30 for the antifreeze....

You're missing the point. I don't know how long it took to do the
job, since it was a fixed price job, but it had to be done. When I
phoned, the person said it was at least a 1 1/2 hour job, when I
dropped the car off they said at least two hours, and they actually
finished and phoned me in 4 hours. I can't compute the hourly rate
myself, but was told it was £70 someing per hour. This is a bit
irrelevent since I only wanted to know if they were quicker/cheaper
than the local independent, for the whole job, which they were. If
the Independent puts 50% markup on parts, charges less per hour labour
but takes longer to do the job it is more expensive. 3 hours labour @
£50 is worse than 2 hours @ £70 and £95 for a pump is worse than £68.
The main agents price for the pump was the same as any online source
that I could check at the time, including Ebay.

I've no doubt that I could have secured a water pump from somewhere
and found a mechanic to fit it, but this would take time, which I
don't have when it's Christmas and the vehicle is my dailer tow car.


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Danny

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Re: UK dealers aren't all bad all the time
 

Dave Milne wrote:
> Well, as long as you are happy ...
> That's still around £90/hr inc VAT at least assuming they have enough gall
> to charge you more than £30 for the antifreeze....

You're missing the point. I don't know how long it took to do the
job, since it was a fixed price job, but it had to be done. When I
phoned, the person said it was at least a 1 1/2 hour job, when I
dropped the car off they said at least two hours, and they actually
finished and phoned me in 4 hours. I can't compute the hourly rate
myself, but was told it was £70 someing per hour. This is a bit
irrelevent since I only wanted to know if they were quicker/cheaper
than the local independent, for the whole job, which they were. If
the Independent puts 50% markup on parts, charges less per hour labour
but takes longer to do the job it is more expensive. 3 hours labour @
£50 is worse than 2 hours @ £70 and £95 for a pump is worse than £68.
The main agents price for the pump was the same as any online source
that I could check at the time, including Ebay.

I've no doubt that I could have secured a water pump from somewhere
and found a mechanic to fit it, but this would take time, which I
don't have when it's Christmas and the vehicle is my dailer tow car.


--
Regards,
Danny

http://www.gaggia-espresso.com (a purely hobby site)
http://www.dannyscoffee.com (UK advert for my mobile espresso service)
http://www.malabargold.co.uk (UK/European online ordering for Malabar
Gold blend)
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Re: UK dealers aren't all bad all the time
 

Dave Milne wrote:
> Well, as long as you are happy ...
> That's still around £90/hr inc VAT at least assuming they have enough gall
> to charge you more than £30 for the antifreeze....

You're missing the point. I don't know how long it took to do the
job, since it was a fixed price job, but it had to be done. When I
phoned, the person said it was at least a 1 1/2 hour job, when I
dropped the car off they said at least two hours, and they actually
finished and phoned me in 4 hours. I can't compute the hourly rate
myself, but was told it was £70 someing per hour. This is a bit
irrelevent since I only wanted to know if they were quicker/cheaper
than the local independent, for the whole job, which they were. If
the Independent puts 50% markup on parts, charges less per hour labour
but takes longer to do the job it is more expensive. 3 hours labour @
£50 is worse than 2 hours @ £70 and £95 for a pump is worse than £68.
The main agents price for the pump was the same as any online source
that I could check at the time, including Ebay.

I've no doubt that I could have secured a water pump from somewhere
and found a mechanic to fit it, but this would take time, which I
don't have when it's Christmas and the vehicle is my dailer tow car.


--
Regards,
Danny

http://www.gaggia-espresso.com (a purely hobby site)
http://www.dannyscoffee.com (UK advert for my mobile espresso service)
http://www.malabargold.co.uk (UK/European online ordering for Malabar
Gold blend)
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Re: UK dealers aren't all bad all the time
 

You are missing my point. Both your dealer and your independent are
expensive.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"Danny" <danny@nospam.gaggia-espresso.com> wrote in message
news:45gbthF6cmtvU1@individual.net...
> Dave Milne wrote:
> > Well, as long as you are happy ...
> > That's still around £90/hr inc VAT at least assuming they have enough
gall
> > to charge you more than £30 for the antifreeze....
>
> You're missing the point. I don't know how long it took to do the
> job, since it was a fixed price job, but it had to be done. When I
> phoned, the person said it was at least a 1 1/2 hour job, when I
> dropped the car off they said at least two hours, and they actually
> finished and phoned me in 4 hours. I can't compute the hourly rate
> myself, but was told it was £70 someing per hour. This is a bit
> irrelevent since I only wanted to know if they were quicker/cheaper
> than the local independent, for the whole job, which they were. If
> the Independent puts 50% markup on parts, charges less per hour labour
> but takes longer to do the job it is more expensive. 3 hours labour @
> £50 is worse than 2 hours @ £70 and £95 for a pump is worse than £68.
> The main agents price for the pump was the same as any online source
> that I could check at the time, including Ebay.
>
> I've no doubt that I could have secured a water pump from somewhere
> and found a mechanic to fit it, but this would take time, which I
> don't have when it's Christmas and the vehicle is my dailer tow car.
>
>
> --
> Regards,
> Danny
>
> http://www.gaggia-espresso.com (a purely hobby site)
> http://www.dannyscoffee.com (UK advert for my mobile espresso service)
> http://www.malabargold.co.uk (UK/European online ordering for Malabar
> Gold blend)
> swap Z for above characters in email address to reply
>

Re: UK dealers aren't all bad all the time
 

You are missing my point. Both your dealer and your independent are
expensive.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"Danny" <danny@nospam.gaggia-espresso.com> wrote in message
news:45gbthF6cmtvU1@individual.net...
> Dave Milne wrote:
> > Well, as long as you are happy ...
> > That's still around £90/hr inc VAT at least assuming they have enough
gall
> > to charge you more than £30 for the antifreeze....
>
> You're missing the point. I don't know how long it took to do the
> job, since it was a fixed price job, but it had to be done. When I
> phoned, the person said it was at least a 1 1/2 hour job, when I
> dropped the car off they said at least two hours, and they actually
> finished and phoned me in 4 hours. I can't compute the hourly rate
> myself, but was told it was £70 someing per hour. This is a bit
> irrelevent since I only wanted to know if they were quicker/cheaper
> than the local independent, for the whole job, which they were. If
> the Independent puts 50% markup on parts, charges less per hour labour
> but takes longer to do the job it is more expensive. 3 hours labour @
> £50 is worse than 2 hours @ £70 and £95 for a pump is worse than £68.
> The main agents price for the pump was the same as any online source
> that I could check at the time, including Ebay.
>
> I've no doubt that I could have secured a water pump from somewhere
> and found a mechanic to fit it, but this would take time, which I
> don't have when it's Christmas and the vehicle is my dailer tow car.
>
>
> --
> Regards,
> Danny
>
> http://www.gaggia-espresso.com (a purely hobby site)
> http://www.dannyscoffee.com (UK advert for my mobile espresso service)
> http://www.malabargold.co.uk (UK/European online ordering for Malabar
> Gold blend)
> swap Z for above characters in email address to reply
>

Re: UK dealers aren't all bad all the time
 

You are missing my point. Both your dealer and your independent are
expensive.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"Danny" <danny@nospam.gaggia-espresso.com> wrote in message
news:45gbthF6cmtvU1@individual.net...
> Dave Milne wrote:
> > Well, as long as you are happy ...
> > That's still around £90/hr inc VAT at least assuming they have enough
gall
> > to charge you more than £30 for the antifreeze....
>
> You're missing the point. I don't know how long it took to do the
> job, since it was a fixed price job, but it had to be done. When I
> phoned, the person said it was at least a 1 1/2 hour job, when I
> dropped the car off they said at least two hours, and they actually
> finished and phoned me in 4 hours. I can't compute the hourly rate
> myself, but was told it was £70 someing per hour. This is a bit
> irrelevent since I only wanted to know if they were quicker/cheaper
> than the local independent, for the whole job, which they were. If
> the Independent puts 50% markup on parts, charges less per hour labour
> but takes longer to do the job it is more expensive. 3 hours labour @
> £50 is worse than 2 hours @ £70 and £95 for a pump is worse than £68.
> The main agents price for the pump was the same as any online source
> that I could check at the time, including Ebay.
>
> I've no doubt that I could have secured a water pump from somewhere
> and found a mechanic to fit it, but this would take time, which I
> don't have when it's Christmas and the vehicle is my dailer tow car.
>
>
> --
> Regards,
> Danny
>
> http://www.gaggia-espresso.com (a purely hobby site)
> http://www.dannyscoffee.com (UK advert for my mobile espresso service)
> http://www.malabargold.co.uk (UK/European online ordering for Malabar
> Gold blend)
> swap Z for above characters in email address to reply
>

Re: UK dealers aren't all bad all the time
 

You are missing my point. Both your dealer and your independent are
expensive.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"Danny" <danny@nospam.gaggia-espresso.com> wrote in message
news:45gbthF6cmtvU1@individual.net...
> Dave Milne wrote:
> > Well, as long as you are happy ...
> > That's still around £90/hr inc VAT at least assuming they have enough
gall
> > to charge you more than £30 for the antifreeze....
>
> You're missing the point. I don't know how long it took to do the
> job, since it was a fixed price job, but it had to be done. When I
> phoned, the person said it was at least a 1 1/2 hour job, when I
> dropped the car off they said at least two hours, and they actually
> finished and phoned me in 4 hours. I can't compute the hourly rate
> myself, but was told it was £70 someing per hour. This is a bit
> irrelevent since I only wanted to know if they were quicker/cheaper
> than the local independent, for the whole job, which they were. If
> the Independent puts 50% markup on parts, charges less per hour labour
> but takes longer to do the job it is more expensive. 3 hours labour @
> £50 is worse than 2 hours @ £70 and £95 for a pump is worse than £68.
> The main agents price for the pump was the same as any online source
> that I could check at the time, including Ebay.
>
> I've no doubt that I could have secured a water pump from somewhere
> and found a mechanic to fit it, but this would take time, which I
> don't have when it's Christmas and the vehicle is my dailer tow car.
>
>
> --
> Regards,
> Danny
>
> http://www.gaggia-espresso.com (a purely hobby site)
> http://www.dannyscoffee.com (UK advert for my mobile espresso service)
> http://www.malabargold.co.uk (UK/European online ordering for Malabar
> Gold blend)
> swap Z for above characters in email address to reply
>

Re: UK dealers aren't all bad all the time
 

The U. S. Airways flight I was on over the holidays was selling the same
drinks for five dollars, five Euros, or three British pounds. You can do
the math yourself. What are you calling Real Money these days?

Earle

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:43F25C23.DD4E9A16@cox.net...
> Cool, that's like twenty five cents in Real money.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Danny wrote:
> >
> > No, the Labour rate was £70-odd per hour, with extras included in the
> > price of coolant/flushing and VAT. They also fitted a serpentine
> > belt, but the cost of the part isn't in the original quote, just free
> > fitting since they had to remove the old one anyway.
> >
> > --
> > Regards,
> > Danny


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Re: UK dealers aren't all bad all the time
 

The U. S. Airways flight I was on over the holidays was selling the same
drinks for five dollars, five Euros, or three British pounds. You can do
the math yourself. What are you calling Real Money these days?

Earle

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:43F25C23.DD4E9A16@cox.net...
> Cool, that's like twenty five cents in Real money.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Danny wrote:
> >
> > No, the Labour rate was £70-odd per hour, with extras included in the
> > price of coolant/flushing and VAT. They also fitted a serpentine
> > belt, but the cost of the part isn't in the original quote, just free
> > fitting since they had to remove the old one anyway.
> >
> > --
> > Regards,
> > Danny


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Re: UK dealers aren't all bad all the time
 

The U. S. Airways flight I was on over the holidays was selling the same
drinks for five dollars, five Euros, or three British pounds. You can do
the math yourself. What are you calling Real Money these days?

Earle

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:43F25C23.DD4E9A16@cox.net...
> Cool, that's like twenty five cents in Real money.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Danny wrote:
> >
> > No, the Labour rate was £70-odd per hour, with extras included in the
> > price of coolant/flushing and VAT. They also fitted a serpentine
> > belt, but the cost of the part isn't in the original quote, just free
> > fitting since they had to remove the old one anyway.
> >
> > --
> > Regards,
> > Danny


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